reboot with Juicing fast
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redheaddee wrote: »So anybody actually has experience with juicing? I see a lot of opinions, but not 1 with experience. So if somebody has a question please feel free to contact me, I am more than happy to share my experience. For everybody else, good luck with your own battle.
Oh wait...read back...I do believe I stated that I have done this before. It doesn't work. Once a day for breakfast: just fine. All day, everyday: not fine. As it seems you only want to hear from those who will tell you how wonderful this is and pat you on the head and tell you you're pretty, might I suggest searching the groups. Because the general public here thinks this is not healthy and is not going to as for your "experience".
Eat less, move more. It's not rocket science.
Juicing didn't work for me either. It actually increased my hunger and set off my migraines. I'm also reactive hypoglycemic and it played havoc on my system as well.0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »contingencyplan wrote: »Wghat do you think how many nutrition you'll take with a hot dog? You just don't know what you don't know.
Actually, I eat Applegate Farms hotdogs. They are very nutritious. I wonder where you get your protein and healthy fats while juicing?
Avocados, Nuts, seeds and protein based plants
If you're juicing nuts, seeds, and "protein based plants", then aren't you removing the proteins along with the fiber?0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »contingencyplan wrote: »Wghat do you think how many nutrition you'll take with a hot dog? You just don't know what you don't know.
Actually, I eat Applegate Farms hotdogs. They are very nutritious. I wonder where you get your protein and healthy fats while juicing?
Avocados, Nuts, seeds and protein based plants
Protein based plants???
yepp, google it
http://www.womenshealthmag.com/nutrition/high-protein-vegetables0 -
redheaddee wrote: »You have livers and kidneys that detox your body. If you need a detox, you need an MD, not a juice fast.
As has already been covered, that documentary is a propaganda piece meant to scare the people that won't actually research anything. Nothing more.
too...funny. Do you think that if you constantly drink alcohol and eat processed food and shovel mcdonalds and taco bell in your belly, your liver and kidneys will be able to detox all the toxics & chemicals in your body? Absolutely not. You getting sick, take medication for the liver which has an effect on other organs and you need another pill. Great- now you are in the medical mouse wheel- the doctor has you for live and you are his money pig. Do you think that all the side effects of medication are healthy and will extend your life? What exactly let you think that? Why do you think that people who are eating mostly raw food have proof records of a long healthy live? Juicing/Detoxing/rebooting is not a new trend, It has been around for a very long time. My grandma used to do that. So far I just see nobody here who have experience with juicing to share. But everybody seems to have an opinion..lol
Grandma and her generation also smoked cigarettes and drank whiskey during pregnancy. Is that still OK too?
Your argument is not valid.
I...I...I can't even. You stated juicing was OK because Grandma did it. My argument was that Grandma and her generation also smoked cigarettes and drank whiskey during pregnancy. How is this off topic to you?
Still waiting on your other references...0 -
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@scubamaja As an adult, you are free to take as foolish of a path with your life as you wish. Believing that movie and basing your intake on its concepts is a foolish path. I'll stick with science and leave wild diet plans that fail any scrutiny to you.0
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redheaddee wrote: »You have livers and kidneys that detox your body. If you need a detox, you need an MD, not a juice fast.
As has already been covered, that documentary is a propaganda piece meant to scare the people that won't actually research anything. Nothing more.
too...funny. Do you think that if you constantly drink alcohol and eat processed food and shovel mcdonalds and taco bell in your belly, your liver and kidneys will be able to detox all the toxics & chemicals in your body? Absolutely not. You getting sick, take medication for the liver which has an effect on other organs and you need another pill. Great- now you are in the medical mouse wheel- the doctor has you for live and you are his money pig. Do you think that all the side effects of medication are healthy and will extend your life? What exactly let you think that? Why do you think that people who are eating mostly raw food have proof records of a long healthy live? Juicing/Detoxing/rebooting is not a new trend, It has been around for a very long time. My grandma used to do that. So far I just see nobody here who have experience with juicing to share. But everybody seems to have an opinion..lol
Grandma and her generation also smoked cigarettes and drank whiskey during pregnancy. Is that still OK too?
Your argument is not valid.
You're the one that brought up grandmothers and what people did 100 and 1000 years ago.
(To note: 100 years ago was World War I so I don't think trying to use that as part of your argument is a good idea.)0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »redheaddee wrote: »So anybody actually has experience with juicing? I see a lot of opinions, but not 1 with experience. So if somebody has a question please feel free to contact me, I am more than happy to share my experience. For everybody else, good luck with your own battle.
Oh wait...read back...I do believe I stated that I have done this before. It doesn't work. Once a day for breakfast: just fine. All day, everyday: not fine. As it seems you only want to hear from those who will tell you how wonderful this is and pat you on the head and tell you you're pretty, might I suggest searching the groups. Because the general public here thinks this is not healthy and is not going to as for your "experience".
Eat less, move more. It's not rocket science.
Juicing didn't work for me either. It actually increased my hunger and set off my migraines. I'm also reactive hypoglycemic and it played havoc on my system as well.
No, You assuming wrong. I ask for other people experience in juicing, thats all. Im sorry that juicing did not worked for you. Unfortunately" Eat less, move more" doesn't work so simple, not for me.0 -
Escloflowne wrote: »
What gave it away? Was it the references to a debunked movie or the concept of a "reboot"?0 -
At 2-3 grams of protein per serving, how many servings of these veggies are you eating per day to maintain even the minimum recommended protein per day? And if you are juicing these veggies, then how much of that protein do you think is retained?0
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PikaKnight wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »contingencyplan wrote: »Wghat do you think how many nutrition you'll take with a hot dog? You just don't know what you don't know.
Actually, I eat Applegate Farms hotdogs. They are very nutritious. I wonder where you get your protein and healthy fats while juicing?
Avocados, Nuts, seeds and protein based plants
Protein based plants???
yepp, google it
http://www.womenshealthmag.com/nutrition/high-protein-vegetables
From women's health magazine. Okay then. :laugh: I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Anyways, I looked and you'd be hard pressed to get in more than minimum (absolute minimum) with just those listed. Unless you are eating really really large amounts.0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »redheaddee wrote: »You have livers and kidneys that detox your body. If you need a detox, you need an MD, not a juice fast.
As has already been covered, that documentary is a propaganda piece meant to scare the people that won't actually research anything. Nothing more.
too...funny. Do you think that if you constantly drink alcohol and eat processed food and shovel mcdonalds and taco bell in your belly, your liver and kidneys will be able to detox all the toxics & chemicals in your body? Absolutely not. You getting sick, take medication for the liver which has an effect on other organs and you need another pill. Great- now you are in the medical mouse wheel- the doctor has you for live and you are his money pig. Do you think that all the side effects of medication are healthy and will extend your life? What exactly let you think that? Why do you think that people who are eating mostly raw food have proof records of a long healthy live? Juicing/Detoxing/rebooting is not a new trend, It has been around for a very long time. My grandma used to do that. So far I just see nobody here who have experience with juicing to share. But everybody seems to have an opinion..lol
Grandma and her generation also smoked cigarettes and drank whiskey during pregnancy. Is that still OK too?
Your argument is not valid.
You're the one that brought up grandmothers and what people did 100 and 1000 years ago.
(To note: 100 years ago was World War I so I don't think trying to use that as part of your argument is a good idea.)
you need to read the messages right, you are mistaking. BTW-I am way older...lol0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »redheaddee wrote: »So anybody actually has experience with juicing? I see a lot of opinions, but not 1 with experience. So if somebody has a question please feel free to contact me, I am more than happy to share my experience. For everybody else, good luck with your own battle.
Oh wait...read back...I do believe I stated that I have done this before. It doesn't work. Once a day for breakfast: just fine. All day, everyday: not fine. As it seems you only want to hear from those who will tell you how wonderful this is and pat you on the head and tell you you're pretty, might I suggest searching the groups. Because the general public here thinks this is not healthy and is not going to as for your "experience".
Eat less, move more. It's not rocket science.
Juicing didn't work for me either. It actually increased my hunger and set off my migraines. I'm also reactive hypoglycemic and it played havoc on my system as well.
No, You assuming wrong. I ask for other people experience in juicing, thats all. Im sorry that juicing did not worked for you. Unfortunately" Eat less, move more" doesn't work so simple, not for me.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have in our presence, a rare, shiny unicorn!
Unless you have a medical condition you are not sharing, eat less move more works for EVERYONE.
I'm out. The level of ignorance is well past my fill for the day.
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Thank you all for you opinions, I appreciate all. Good luck, whatever journey you'll take. You are in charge! You are in control!0
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PikaKnight wrote: »redheaddee wrote: »So anybody actually has experience with juicing? I see a lot of opinions, but not 1 with experience. So if somebody has a question please feel free to contact me, I am more than happy to share my experience. For everybody else, good luck with your own battle.
Oh wait...read back...I do believe I stated that I have done this before. It doesn't work. Once a day for breakfast: just fine. All day, everyday: not fine. As it seems you only want to hear from those who will tell you how wonderful this is and pat you on the head and tell you you're pretty, might I suggest searching the groups. Because the general public here thinks this is not healthy and is not going to as for your "experience".
Eat less, move more. It's not rocket science.
Juicing didn't work for me either. It actually increased my hunger and set off my migraines. I'm also reactive hypoglycemic and it played havoc on my system as well.
No, You assuming wrong. I ask for other people experience in juicing, thats all. Im sorry that juicing did not worked for you. Unfortunately" Eat less, move more" doesn't work so simple, not for me.
Except you are eating less. It doesn't matter if you juice, cut carbs, etc. You have to eat less than your maintenance tdee. That's science.
ETA: And that was my experience. Because it wasn't a good one it's not relevant? Seriously?0 -
If you think that people had Juicemaster 1000000s 1000 years ago, you're mistaken. If you'd like to go that route, people ate fruits, veg, nuts, seeds, and meat 1000 years ago. Complete with fiber and protein.
If you want to do this because Joe Cross said so, that's your prerogative. But don't spread misinformation to justify your decision.0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »redheaddee wrote: »You have livers and kidneys that detox your body. If you need a detox, you need an MD, not a juice fast.
As has already been covered, that documentary is a propaganda piece meant to scare the people that won't actually research anything. Nothing more.
too...funny. Do you think that if you constantly drink alcohol and eat processed food and shovel mcdonalds and taco bell in your belly, your liver and kidneys will be able to detox all the toxics & chemicals in your body? Absolutely not. You getting sick, take medication for the liver which has an effect on other organs and you need another pill. Great- now you are in the medical mouse wheel- the doctor has you for live and you are his money pig. Do you think that all the side effects of medication are healthy and will extend your life? What exactly let you think that? Why do you think that people who are eating mostly raw food have proof records of a long healthy live? Juicing/Detoxing/rebooting is not a new trend, It has been around for a very long time. My grandma used to do that. So far I just see nobody here who have experience with juicing to share. But everybody seems to have an opinion..lol
Grandma and her generation also smoked cigarettes and drank whiskey during pregnancy. Is that still OK too?
Your argument is not valid.
You're the one that brought up grandmothers and what people did 100 and 1000 years ago.
(To note: 100 years ago was World War I so I don't think trying to use that as part of your argument is a good idea.)
you need to read the messages right, you are mistaking. BTW-I am way older...lol
Pretty sure a 100 years ago still means 100 years ago regardless how old you are. Time doesn't change because you are older than me. It doesn't make 100 years from now any more or less than yours because I'm younger.0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »contingencyplan wrote: »Wghat do you think how many nutrition you'll take with a hot dog? You just don't know what you don't know.
Actually, I eat Applegate Farms hotdogs. They are very nutritious. I wonder where you get your protein and healthy fats while juicing?
Avocados, Nuts, seeds and protein based plants
Protein based plants???
yepp, google it
http://www.womenshealthmag.com/nutrition/high-protein-vegetables
A cup of peas has 21 grams of carbs to 8 grams of protein so it's carb based.
Spinach has 1.1 grams of carbs to .9 grams of protein so it's carb based.
Potato (barely a vegetable but i'll play) 37 grams of carbs to 4 grams of protein so carb based.
Do I need to go farther?
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PikaKnight wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »contingencyplan wrote: »Wghat do you think how many nutrition you'll take with a hot dog? You just don't know what you don't know.
Actually, I eat Applegate Farms hotdogs. They are very nutritious. I wonder where you get your protein and healthy fats while juicing?
Avocados, Nuts, seeds and protein based plants
Protein based plants???
yepp, google it
http://www.womenshealthmag.com/nutrition/high-protein-vegetables
From women's health magazine. Okay then. :laugh: I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Anyways, I looked and you'd be hard pressed to get in more than minimum (absolute minimum) with just those listed. Unless you are eating really really large amounts.
She may have googled it but didn't bother to read the "Something important to keep in mind: "Plant proteins are 'incomplete'"
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thecraftinista wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »contingencyplan wrote: »Wghat do you think how many nutrition you'll take with a hot dog? You just don't know what you don't know.
Actually, I eat Applegate Farms hotdogs. They are very nutritious. I wonder where you get your protein and healthy fats while juicing?
Avocados, Nuts, seeds and protein based plants
Protein based plants???
yepp, google it
http://www.womenshealthmag.com/nutrition/high-protein-vegetables
From women's health magazine. Okay then. :laugh: I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Anyways, I looked and you'd be hard pressed to get in more than minimum (absolute minimum) with just those listed. Unless you are eating really really large amounts.
She may have googled it but didn't bother to read the "Something important to keep in mind: "Plant proteins are 'incomplete'"
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You have livers and kidneys that detox your body. If you need a detox, you need an MD, not a juice fast.
As has already been covered, that documentary is a propaganda piece meant to scare the people that won't actually research anything. Nothing more.
too...funny. Do you think that if you constantly drink alcohol and eat processed food and shovel mcdonalds and taco bell in your belly, your liver and kidneys will be able to detox all the toxics & chemicals in your body? Absolutely not. You getting sick, take medication for the liver which has an effect on other organs and you need another pill. Great- now you are in the medical mouse wheel- the doctor has you for live and you are his money pig. Do you think that all the side effects of medication are healthy and will extend your life? What exactly let you think that? Why do you think that people who are eating mostly raw food have proof records of a long healthy live? Juicing/Detoxing/rebooting is not a new trend, It has been around for a very long time. My grandma used to do that. So far I just see nobody here who have experience with juicing to share. But everybody seems to have an opinion..lol
Cite your sources. Btw, your grandmother isn't a source.
Oh, and they put arsenic and lead in food when your grandmother was young. You really think that all the other things they did back then is what you should do now?0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »contingencyplan wrote: »Wghat do you think how many nutrition you'll take with a hot dog? You just don't know what you don't know.
Actually, I eat Applegate Farms hotdogs. They are very nutritious. I wonder where you get your protein and healthy fats while juicing?
Avocados, Nuts, seeds and protein based plants
Protein based plants???
The Venus Fly Trap IS a carnivore, you know!0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »redheaddee wrote: »You have livers and kidneys that detox your body. If you need a detox, you need an MD, not a juice fast.
As has already been covered, that documentary is a propaganda piece meant to scare the people that won't actually research anything. Nothing more.
too...funny. Do you think that if you constantly drink alcohol and eat processed food and shovel mcdonalds and taco bell in your belly, your liver and kidneys will be able to detox all the toxics & chemicals in your body? Absolutely not. You getting sick, take medication for the liver which has an effect on other organs and you need another pill. Great- now you are in the medical mouse wheel- the doctor has you for live and you are his money pig. Do you think that all the side effects of medication are healthy and will extend your life? What exactly let you think that? Why do you think that people who are eating mostly raw food have proof records of a long healthy live? Juicing/Detoxing/rebooting is not a new trend, It has been around for a very long time. My grandma used to do that. So far I just see nobody here who have experience with juicing to share. But everybody seems to have an opinion..lol
Grandma and her generation also smoked cigarettes and drank whiskey during pregnancy. Is that still OK too?
Your argument is not valid.
You're the one that brought up grandmothers and what people did 100 and 1000 years ago.
(To note: 100 years ago was World War I so I don't think trying to use that as part of your argument is a good idea.)
I'd also like to add that, 1000 years ago, they didn't have juicers.0 -
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Escloflowne wrote: »You have livers and kidneys that detox your body. If you need a detox, you need an MD, not a juice fast.
As has already been covered, that documentary is a propaganda piece meant to scare the people that won't actually research anything. Nothing more.
too...funny. Do you think that if you constantly drink alcohol and eat processed food and shovel mcdonalds and taco bell in your belly, your liver and kidneys will be able to detox all the toxics & chemicals in your body? Absolutely not. You getting sick, take medication for the liver which has an effect on other organs and you need another pill. Great- now you are in the medical mouse wheel- the doctor has you for live and you are his money pig. Do you think that all the side effects of medication are healthy and will extend your life? What exactly let you think that? Why do you think that people who are eating mostly raw food have proof records of a long healthy live? Juicing/Detoxing/rebooting is not a new trend, It has been around for a very long time. My grandma used to do that. So far I just see nobody here who have experience with juicing to share. But everybody seems to have an opinion..lol
So many lol's were had at this0 -
Escloflowne wrote: »contingencyplan wrote: »No offense but that documentary has been shot down so many times it's not even funny. These juice fasts are a quick trip to high blood sugar and insufficient nutrition.
Do yourself a favor and stop watching heavily biased documentaries. Do what works and has worked for hundreds of years. Exercise and moderate calorie deficit.
Thank you for your concern, however I am doing exactly what works for 100, even 1000 years, fruit, veggies and do excercise. The movies actually explain that very well. Loosing weight through reboot/detox your body is just a great side effect, more importantly it is the health benefits. You don't have to agree, and I can assume you did not watched the movies at all reading your comment. The movies let you think about processed food and marketing, medication and so much more. My blood sugar is fine and juicing gives you all nutritions your body is craving for to the first time. Wghat do you think how many nutrition you'll take with a hot dog? You just don't know what you don't know.
WHERE IS THE LIKE BUTTON?!
Also, juicing. I also bought a juicer, but I did it to try and raise my intake of vegetables and fruits during the day, I still eat regular food, but I definitely drink a lot more veggies now then I did when I had to chew 'em.
I've not read much on the juicing fast, but the little I've read suggests it is not as healthy as it may seem, or something along those lines. It seemed to have work for a lot of folks though, and in the movie the doctor 'allows' Joe to continue his fast (diet?), remember his physicist kept an eye on him during all of the fast.
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PikaKnight wrote: »redheaddee wrote: »So anybody actually has experience with juicing? I see a lot of opinions, but not 1 with experience. So if somebody has a question please feel free to contact me, I am more than happy to share my experience. For everybody else, good luck with your own battle.
Oh wait...read back...I do believe I stated that I have done this before. It doesn't work. Once a day for breakfast: just fine. All day, everyday: not fine. As it seems you only want to hear from those who will tell you how wonderful this is and pat you on the head and tell you you're pretty, might I suggest searching the groups. Because the general public here thinks this is not healthy and is not going to as for your "experience".
Eat less, move more. It's not rocket science.
Juicing didn't work for me either. It actually increased my hunger and set off my migraines. I'm also reactive hypoglycemic and it played havoc on my system as well.
No, You assuming wrong. I ask for other people experience in juicing, thats all. Im sorry that juicing did not worked for you. Unfortunately" Eat less, move more" doesn't work so simple, not for me.
But I believe you said it was working for you. You mentioned you lost weight without juicing. It sounds like it just wasn't fast enough for you.
Our body naturally detoxs. Starving your body for calories is not going to do anything but inhibit you metabolism. It might seem faster because you'll lose a bunch of weight at first, but once your body realizes it's not getting what it needs to function it will slow down your metabolism to opperate on what it's getting. That's why even people who lose weight steadily hit a plateau. The problem is since yours will have slowed down so much from an extreme calorie defect, it will take longer to speed back up or "reset" when you eat at a health calorie intake again and you run the risk of gaining back even more weight.
Losing weight so fast also increases the chances of saggy skin and the lost of lean muscle mass, so in the long run you could be weaker and more squishy looking.0 -
Cavemen totally juiced. You know it and I know it.
Seriously, just all the nopes.0 -
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