Not so healthy foods
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Oh, I was still under goal with my calories after the donut.0
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I, for instance, stopped eating dessert foods 10 years ago. My husband loves dessert food and brings it home all the time. For the most part, I don't think twice about it -- it's not my food, it's not my business. It might as well be brussel sprouts.DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »Lasmartchika wrote: »
Did you notice you proved my point?DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »Lasmartchika wrote: »
That's why it's best not to avoid completely what you love so you don't have those binge feelings once you're in the presence of those foods. But you know what? Good for you for not having any dessert food for so long. Why? Cuz you let your brain win and not the lifeless food. You chose, you didn't let the food choose for you. Point proven.
Did you even read my post?
Your point appears to be that people should both eat their binge foods and avoid their binge foods.
That makes no sense at all
If you ate those cookies a little bit more often, I assure you that you wouldn't binge on them every single time they were brought home. You know what self control is. You said yourself you've been doing that for the past TEN YEARS. Just because it's in the house doesn't mean YOU have to eat it. That's my point, you decide. You don't let food decide. AGAIN, POINT PROVEN. Thank you for that. :drinker:0 -
just caught up on the thread. should have realized it would turn into an argument.
you shouldn't worry about food getting thrown out. if your husband can't finish it himself, then too bad. let him throw it out. you don't have to eat it if you don't want to.0 -
Wasting food makes me sad, seriously. I don't care what you do with it, eat it, freeze it, share it, give to a friend, neighbor, a struggling single parent. Just don't throw it away.0
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just caught up on the thread. should have realized it would turn into an argument.
you shouldn't worry about food getting thrown out. if your husband can't finish it himself, then too bad. let him throw it out. you don't have to eat it if you don't want to.
Why does he have to throw it out?
If he doesn't finish it today, he can't finish it tomorrow?
my point is, she isn't required to eat it. he can do with it what he wants. of course that's exactly what i said, but you read something else in my post.0 -
stephanieluvspb wrote: »Wasting food makes me sad, seriously. I don't care what you do with it, eat it, freeze it, share it, give to a friend, neighbor, a struggling single parent. Just don't throw it away.
i throw away food i can't finish all the time, usually because it eventually goes bad. that's how life is in a first world country.0 -
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Tell that to the thousands of starving children of hard working parents in this first world country0
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just caught up on the thread. should have realized it would turn into an argument.
you shouldn't worry about food getting thrown out. if your husband can't finish it himself, then too bad. let him throw it out. you don't have to eat it if you don't want to.
Why does he have to throw it out?
If he doesn't finish it today, he can't finish it tomorrow?
my point is, she isn't required to eat it. he can do with it what he wants. of course that's exactly what i said, but you read something else in my post.
if your husband can't finish it himself, then too bad. let him throw it out.
Who said he wanted to throw them out?
Who said he can't finish them?
i said "if"
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stephanieluvspb wrote: »Tell that to the thousands of starving children of hard working parents in this first world country
i can't be bothered to make sure that every bit of food i buy gets eaten. i'm not going to personally tell them this, but you can if you want.0 -
stephanieluvspb wrote: »Tell that to the thousands of starving children of hard working parents in this first world country
What should we tell them?
Ummm i dunno whatever you want to tell them I guess
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stephanieluvspb wrote: »Tell that to the thousands of starving children of hard working parents in this first world country
i can't be bothered to make sure that every bit of food i buy gets eaten. i'm not going to personally tell them this, but you can if you want.
That's a little much but whatever. I really don't care what you do with your food, shove it in your pie hole or throw it away, i worked for a low income clinic in a really low income neighborhood and its just something that bothers me.0 -
Lasmartchika wrote: »I, for instance, stopped eating dessert foods 10 years ago. My husband loves dessert food and brings it home all the time. For the most part, I don't think twice about it -- it's not my food, it's not my business. It might as well be brussel sprouts.DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »Lasmartchika wrote: »
Did you notice you proved my point?DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »Lasmartchika wrote: »
That's why it's best not to avoid completely what you love so you don't have those binge feelings once you're in the presence of those foods. But you know what? Good for you for not having any dessert food for so long. Why? Cuz you let your brain win and not the lifeless food. You chose, you didn't let the food choose for you. Point proven.
Did you even read my post?
Your point appears to be that people should both eat their binge foods and avoid their binge foods.
That makes no sense at all
If you ate those cookies a little bit more often, I assure you that you wouldn't binge on them every single time they were brought home. You know what self control is. You said yourself you've been doing that for the past TEN YEARS. Just because it's in the house doesn't mean YOU have to eat it. That's my point, you decide. You don't let food decide. AGAIN, POINT PROVEN. Thank you for that. :drinker:
Yes, you are absolutely right.
I get to decide what to eat and what not to eat.
However, you are skipping a step -- the URGE to binge. I don't get to decide when the urge pops up.
My way: I don't eat my binge foods; I don't have to exercise self-control because there's nothing to control; I experience the urge to binge a handful of times over 10 years and because my self-control isn't exhausted, I'm successful in overcoming the urge.
Your way: eat a little bit of your binge food; exercise self-control over the desire to eat more; when self-control breaks, battle the urge to binge; when you lose the battle, binge. Repeat over and over until your self-control gets stronger or until you give up, whichever comes first.0 -
hmcbride68 wrote: »If the dieter can't stop at half, the doughnuts have to go
If the dieter can't stop, it's not the doughnuts that need to go, it's whatever reason he/she can't stop themselves that needs to go. Eating healthy is a behavior. If bad eating habits are present, that behavior needs to be re-trained. Adopting a healthy attitude toward food and confidence in one's self is how that is done. Developing strange phobias toward certain food types, placing said food on some weird plane of total power, then submitting to it, is silly and going in the opposite direction of learning to eat properly
Ok sure, but it's not always as easy as telling yourself 'I'll stop at one' unfortunately. Or we wouldn't have been fat in the first place! But if you have a magic solution to re-train yourself, by all means, share.
Who ever said it was easy? Getting fit, especially after years of bad habits, is hard as hell. It takes a tremendous amount of patience and determination over a long period of time. It takes discipline. You're making several decisions regarding your health on a daily basis. To espouse that there is no need for self-control is preposterous. This isn't something you can go to the drug store and get a pill for. There's no drive-thru window. You're not playing some game where you win, get a trophy, feel good about it for a while, then move on. You're changing the way you live your life up to the day you die. This is serious stuff. If I had some "magic solution" to changing people's behavior, I would be the wealthiest person alive. No one has one singular answer as to how someone looking to change should go about it. Only the person wanting to change knows that. It's their life. They are the only one that lives it. I do know that it requires to first be honest with one's self. There are lots of people here with good experience and knowledge that can help a person like the OP figure things out. But, leading them down a path of blaming objects and holding other people responsible for not not even just getting into the predicament they're in, but their decisions and behavior going forward, is highly irresponsible and not the wisdom of a mature person with sound judgement. A person such as the OP is likely vulnerable and is asking for help. To lead them down the wrong path is irresponsible and not helpful at all. In fact, it can add to their confusion, making it harder for them to make the adjustments necessary for their success0 -
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just caught up on the thread. should have realized it would turn into an argument.
you shouldn't worry about food getting thrown out. if your husband can't finish it himself, then too bad. let him throw it out. you don't have to eat it if you don't want to.
Why does he have to throw it out?
If he doesn't finish it today, he can't finish it tomorrow?
my point is, she isn't required to eat it. he can do with it what he wants. of course that's exactly what i said, but you read something else in my post.
if your husband can't finish it himself, then too bad. let him throw it out.
Who said he wanted to throw them out?
Who said he can't finish them?
i said "if"
quit trolling
Well no one said that, you're just getting a little aggressive there. If he can't finish it TOO BAD!!! Yikes
are you trying to troll me into saying something you can report or something? move on.0 -
prattiger65 wrote: »PerkisPower wrote: »
Sadly, there are people here who demonize foods and make it that much harder on people to succeed. Oh, there is no such thing as unhealthy food. There is no food you can name that I cant give you an example of it contributing to a healthy diet.
It's not black and white.0 -
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just caught up on the thread. should have realized it would turn into an argument.
you shouldn't worry about food getting thrown out. if your husband can't finish it himself, then too bad. let him throw it out. you don't have to eat it if you don't want to.
Why does he have to throw it out?
If he doesn't finish it today, he can't finish it tomorrow?
my point is, she isn't required to eat it. he can do with it what he wants. of course that's exactly what i said, but you read something else in my post.
if your husband can't finish it himself, then too bad. let him throw it out.
Who said he wanted to throw them out?
Who said he can't finish them?
i said "if"
quit trolling
Well no one said that, you're just getting a little aggressive there. If he can't finish it TOO BAD!!! Yikes
are you trying to troll me into saying something you can report or something? move on.
I can't control what you say, only you can. You think I concern myself with reporting you? Lol
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Actually, if it's that hard you're setting yourself up for failure. Do you know what's easy? Resisting temptation when you're not tempted. But you go ahead and keep beating your head against the wall and fighting the good fight and all of that...hmcbride68 wrote: »
Who ever said it was easy? Getting fit, especially after years of bad habits, is hard as hell. It takes a tremendous amount of patience and determination over a long period of time. It takes discipline.
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That's true and at least you don't have to worry about stopping and digging extra money out of your pocket for the bell ringers with the red buckets at christmas time you might be on to somethingstephanieluvspb wrote: »stephanieluvspb wrote: »Tell that to the thousands of starving children of hard working parents in this first world country
What should we tell them?
Ummm i dunno whatever you want to tell them I guess
I actually don't need to tell them anything. I'm not responsible for feeding them. I'm responsible for feeding myself and my own family. You're the one that gets bothered if others throw away food not me.
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stephanieluvspb wrote: »stephanieluvspb wrote: »Tell that to the thousands of starving children of hard working parents in this first world country
i can't be bothered to make sure that every bit of food i buy gets eaten. i'm not going to personally tell them this, but you can if you want.
That's a little much but whatever. I really don't care what you do with your food, shove it in your pie hole or throw it away, i worked for a low income clinic in a really low income neighborhood and its just something that bothers me.
would my buying exactly what i eat and no more and never wasting food actually help to fix hunger for poor people in this country? i don't think there is an actual shortage of food here.0 -
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