Kit Kat or pear??
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You would think fruit would be good for you but it's not, here's why:
- glycogen reserves for fructose are tiny (liver) compared to other sugars (muscle glycogen).
- because of this post exercise you have a greater chance of spillover to fat
- Fruit often contains the enzymes to break itself down so it's faster digesting than many simple sugars
- fruit often has very little fiber and is far more acidic than vegetables.
- in human development fruit was very rare,truly a treat. Remember til a few hundred years ago when sugar because accessible to the masses fruit and honey were the junk food of the times. In fact it's only since the 1920s grains entered our diet and only since 1950s sugar was wide spread.
really so the ancient romans and greeks did not eat grains?????
Maybe you forgot to read? I said "our diet". Yes they had grains but in minor amounts compare to today. In fact if you look at this chart:
Notice countries that moved away from a largely meat/dairy/egg diet went up in disease....
Does those countries with less eat grains. To some degree but not like the those with high carbs as percentage. The studies are clear, fat in the absence of insulin burns well as fuel and therefore does not contribute to weight gain, heart disease, and diabetes as a high carb diet does.
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Have a serving size of knowledge yo
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Can you explain further how high blood sugar is toxic? I mean is that like arsnic is toxic after a point?
And so are you also saying carbs = toxic? because that's kind of what my take away on that is.
And one final thing- you must not be a fan of building muscle- because- well insulin spikes are part of how you build muscles- and things. So I mean- sure find if you're okay being soft and squishy for forever- go right ahead- but I'll take my toxic blood and rippling muscles.
Oh here comes the trolls..
1.) More people die from heart disease, followed by cancer (thanks GMO crops and HFCS!), (followed not far behind diabetes) which doesnt even factor in diabetes related obesity more than anything else in the US... so.. yeah: toxic http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm
2.) Ok riddle me this, can you OD on too much fat or protien in one sitting? No. Can you on sugar or alcohol. You bet, particularly if your insulin resistant like 99.9% of the population. Are I guess ben pakulski "squishy"? Labraka's clients? Why do you think people carb deplete towards end of show prep. But I guess you know better than the experts.
3.) http://authoritynutrition.com/23-studies-on-low-carb-and-low-fat-diets/ nuff said.
4.) Next you can get insulin spikes without carbs. Familar with whey? its 90%+ protien, no carbs hun. You eat enough eggs, dairy, meat, etc you will spike insulin which is not always a good thing. You can no burn fat in the presence of insulin. So congrats your insulin made you soft and squishy.
5.) Fat is preverses muscle loss as once you get fat adapted the body is less likely to use muscle breakdown as fuel when in a deficit. But hey what do I know, I only leg press 5.5 times my body weight for reps of 12.
So.. feel free to apologize... ya know... whenever..
Can you please provide a source that states that 99.9% of the population is insulin resistant? Also that GMOs and HFCS cause cancer.
Thx.
*Edit: Can't fix quotes that this guy messed up.0 -
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You would think fruit would be good for you but it's not, here's why:
- glycogen reserves for fructose are tiny (liver) compared to other sugars (muscle glycogen).
- because of this post exercise you have a greater chance of spillover to fat
- Fruit often contains the enzymes to break itself down so it's faster digesting than many simple sugars
- fruit often has very little fiber and is far more acidic than vegetables.
- in human development fruit was very rare,truly a treat. Remember til a few hundred years ago when sugar because accessible to the masses fruit and honey were the junk food of the times. In fact it's only since the 1920s grains entered our diet and only since 1950s sugar was wide spread.
really so the ancient romans and greeks did not eat grains?????
Maybe you forgot to read? I said "our diet". Yes they had grains but in minor amounts compare to today. In fact if you look at this chart:
Notice countries that moved away from a largely meat/dairy/egg diet went up in disease....
Does those countries with less eat grains. To some degree but not like the those with high carbs as percentage. The studies are clear, fat in the absence of insulin burns well as fuel and therefore does not contribute to weight gain, heart disease, and diabetes as a high carb diet does.
what does that chart have to do with the ancient romans and greeks..?
So are you telling me that in Roman society - say around the time of Caesar - that grains were not widely distributed?
I can show you a chart showing a relation between increase in temperatures and piracy too ...does that mean that increasing temperature leads to more piracy???0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
OMG I am tearing up.
This might be one of the funniest things I have ever seen.
Also kit kat. Pears have a gross texture. Unless it's canned, then maybe it'd be ok. Not sure. Still kit kat though.
Now pineapple vs kitkat? that's a totally different story. MMMMMMMMmmm pineapple.
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2.) Ok riddle me this, can you OD on too much fat or protien in one sitting? No. Can you on sugar or alcohol. You bet, particularly if your insulin resistant like 99.9% of the population. Are I guess ben pakulski "squishy"? Labraka's clients? Why do you think people carb deplete towards end of show prep. But I guess you know better than the experts.
4.) Next you can get insulin spikes without carbs. Familar with whey? its 90%+ protien, no carbs hun. You eat enough eggs, dairy, meat, etc you will spike insulin which is not always a good thing. You can no burn fat in the presence of insulin. So congrats your insulin made you soft and squishy.
5.) Fat is preverses muscle loss as once you get fat adapted the body is less likely to use muscle breakdown as fuel when in a deficit. But hey what do I know, I only leg press 5.5 times my body weight for reps of 12.
So.. feel free to apologize... ya know... whenever..
Did you seriously just call JoRocka "squishy" and "hun"?
I would like to hear more about how I am probably insulin resistant because my panel suggests otherwise.
Congrats on your leg presses with your fat-preserved muscle. Do you have video?
Please link to a case in which a non-diabetic person OD'd on sugar.0 -
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obscuremusicreference wrote: »2.) Ok riddle me this, can you OD on too much fat or protien in one sitting? No. Can you on sugar or alcohol. You bet, particularly if your insulin resistant like 99.9% of the population. Are I guess ben pakulski "squishy"? Labraka's clients? Why do you think people carb deplete towards end of show prep. But I guess you know better than the experts.
4.) Next you can get insulin spikes without carbs. Familar with whey? its 90%+ protien, no carbs hun. You eat enough eggs, dairy, meat, etc you will spike insulin which is not always a good thing. You can no burn fat in the presence of insulin. So congrats your insulin made you soft and squishy.
5.) Fat is preverses muscle loss as once you get fat adapted the body is less likely to use muscle breakdown as fuel when in a deficit. But hey what do I know, I only leg press 5.5 times my body weight for reps of 12.
So.. feel free to apologize... ya know... whenever..
Did you seriously just call JoRocka "squishy" and "hun"?
I would like to hear more about how I am probably insulin resistant because my panel suggests otherwise.
Congrats on your leg presses with your fat-preserved muscle. Do you have video?
Please link to a case in which a non-diabetic person OD'd on sugar.
JoRocka can probably bench him.
I'd pay to see that.0 -
ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »obscuremusicreference wrote: »2.) Ok riddle me this, can you OD on too much fat or protien in one sitting? No. Can you on sugar or alcohol. You bet, particularly if your insulin resistant like 99.9% of the population. Are I guess ben pakulski "squishy"? Labraka's clients? Why do you think people carb deplete towards end of show prep. But I guess you know better than the experts.
4.) Next you can get insulin spikes without carbs. Familar with whey? its 90%+ protien, no carbs hun. You eat enough eggs, dairy, meat, etc you will spike insulin which is not always a good thing. You can no burn fat in the presence of insulin. So congrats your insulin made you soft and squishy.
5.) Fat is preverses muscle loss as once you get fat adapted the body is less likely to use muscle breakdown as fuel when in a deficit. But hey what do I know, I only leg press 5.5 times my body weight for reps of 12.
So.. feel free to apologize... ya know... whenever..
Did you seriously just call JoRocka "squishy" and "hun"?
I would like to hear more about how I am probably insulin resistant because my panel suggests otherwise.
Congrats on your leg presses with your fat-preserved muscle. Do you have video?
Please link to a case in which a non-diabetic person OD'd on sugar.
JoRocka can probably bench him.
I'd pay to see that.
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Kit Kat Kit Kat= Bought some more to celebrate.0
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obscuremusicreference wrote: »2.) Ok riddle me this, can you OD on too much fat or protien in one sitting? No. Can you on sugar or alcohol. You bet, particularly if your insulin resistant like 99.9% of the population. Are I guess ben pakulski "squishy"? Labraka's clients? Why do you think people carb deplete towards end of show prep. But I guess you know better than the experts.
4.) Next you can get insulin spikes without carbs. Familar with whey? its 90%+ protien, no carbs hun. You eat enough eggs, dairy, meat, etc you will spike insulin which is not always a good thing. You can no burn fat in the presence of insulin. So congrats your insulin made you soft and squishy.
5.) Fat is preverses muscle loss as once you get fat adapted the body is less likely to use muscle breakdown as fuel when in a deficit. But hey what do I know, I only leg press 5.5 times my body weight for reps of 12.
So.. feel free to apologize... ya know... whenever..
Did you seriously just call JoRocka "squishy" and "hun"?
I would like to hear more about how I am probably insulin resistant because my panel suggests otherwise.
Congrats on your leg presses with your fat-preserved muscle. Do you have video?
Please link to a case in which a non-diabetic person OD'd on sugar.
I just noticed that she had not responded to him yet, and then I realized that she *may* be on her way to his house right now. I'd be pretty scared if I were that guy.
He gon' get benched.0 -
Can you explain further how high blood sugar is toxic? I mean is that like arsnic is toxic after a point?
And so are you also saying carbs = toxic? because that's kind of what my take away on that is.
And one final thing- you must not be a fan of building muscle- because- well insulin spikes are part of how you build muscles- and things. So I mean- sure find if you're okay being soft and squishy for forever- go right ahead- but I'll take my toxic blood and rippling muscles.
Oh here comes the trolls..
1.) More people die from heart disease, followed by cancer (thanks GMO crops and HFCS!), (followed not far behind diabetes) which doesnt even factor in diabetes related obesity more than anything else in the US... so.. yeah: toxic http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm
2.) Ok riddle me this, can you OD on too much fat or protien in one sitting? No. Can you on sugar or alcohol. You bet, particularly if your insulin resistant like 99.9% of the population. Are I guess ben pakulski "squishy"? Labraka's clients? Why do you think people carb deplete towards end of show prep. But I guess you know better than the experts.
3.) http://authoritynutrition.com/23-studies-on-low-carb-and-low-fat-diets/ nuff said.
4.) Next you can get insulin spikes without carbs. Familar with whey? its 90%+ protien, no carbs hun. You eat enough eggs, dairy, meat, etc you will spike insulin which is not always a good thing. You can no burn fat in the presence of insulin. So congrats your insulin made you soft and squishy.
5.) Fat is preverses muscle loss as once you get fat adapted the body is less likely to use muscle breakdown as fuel when in a deficit. But hey what do I know, I only leg press 5.5 times my body weight for reps of 12.
So.. feel free to apologize... ya know... whenever..
So you make assertions not supported by science (the entire "thanks GMO crops and HFCS!" drivel) ... claim that 99.9% of the population is insulin resistant .... then continue further off the rails with non sequiturs ... there is no reason for anyone to apologize to you based on your inane posts.
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I only have this to add since this thread is in the can.
I can't stand all you perfect people who can eat crap all day and still stay fit.
Genetics, luck, and steroids.0 -
smittybuilt19 wrote: »I only have this to add since this thread is in the can.
I can't stand all you perfect people who can eat crap all day and still stay fit.
Genetics, luck, and steroids.
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All these mean shirtless people you see on MFP. They say, oh just fit your macros bro, and eat crap, look at me I'm fit, what's your problem.
I just don't think our bodies are made to consume crap.
Judging strictly by your avi, you must not be one of those people, obviously.0 -
smittybuilt19 wrote: »All these mean shirtless people you see on MFP. They say, oh just fit your macros bro, and eat crap, look at me I'm fit, what's your problem.
I just don't think our bodies are made to consume crap.
Judging strictly by your avi, you must not be one of those people, obviously.
Hehe I'm a manatee.
But my point was, they don't eat that stuff all day. They fit a moderate amount of it into a diet that's nutrient rich and meets macronutrient requirements. The idea that people promote eating "crap" all day is a misconception.0 -
Hmm, I concede. Excellent point manatee.0
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You would think fruit would be good for you but it's not, here's why:
- glycogen reserves for fructose are tiny (liver) compared to other sugars (muscle glycogen).
- because of this post exercise you have a greater chance of spillover to fat
- Fruit often contains the enzymes to break itself down so it's faster digesting than many simple sugars
- fruit often has very little fiber and is far more acidic than vegetables.
- in human development fruit was very rare,truly a treat. Remember til a few hundred years ago when sugar because accessible to the masses fruit and honey were the junk food of the times. In fact it's only since the 1920s grains entered our diet and only since 1950s sugar was wide spread.
really so the ancient romans and greeks did not eat grains?????
Maybe you forgot to read? I said "our diet". Yes they had grains but in minor amounts compare to today. In fact if you look at this chart:
Notice countries that moved away from a largely meat/dairy/egg diet went up in disease....
Does those countries with less eat grains. To some degree but not like the those with high carbs as percentage. The studies are clear, fat in the absence of insulin burns well as fuel and therefore does not contribute to weight gain, heart disease, and diabetes as a high carb diet does.
The longest living populations in the world eat high carb/low fat. And using Mercola as a source basically destroys your credibility and shows a true zealot
Also, in comparing diets:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2763382/
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smittybuilt19 wrote: »I only have this to add since this thread is in the can.
I can't stand all you perfect people who can eat crap all day and still stay fit.
Genetics, luck, and steroids.
Please leave with your wild accusations.
That's it, this is my last comment on this thread and I will not return.
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smittybuilt19 wrote: »smittybuilt19 wrote: »I only have this to add since this thread is in the can.
I can't stand all you perfect people who can eat crap all day and still stay fit.
Genetics, luck, and steroids.
Please leave with your wild accusations.
That's it, this is my last comment on this thread and I will not return.
Jealousy gets you nowhere.
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smittybuilt19 wrote: »I only have this to add since this thread is in the can.
I can't stand all you perfect people who can eat crap all day and still stay fit.
Genetics, luck, and steroids.
Please leave with your wild accusations.
He isn't talking to you; you're a chihuahua.
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jennifershoo wrote: »You would think fruit would be good for you but it's not, here's why:
- glycogen reserves for fructose are tiny (liver) compared to other sugars (muscle glycogen).
- because of this post exercise you have a greater chance of spillover to fat
- Fruit often contains the enzymes to break itself down so it's faster digesting than many simple sugars
- fruit often has very little fiber and is far more acidic than vegetables.
- in human development fruit was very rare,truly a treat. Remember til a few hundred years ago when sugar because accessible to the masses fruit and honey were the junk food of the times. In fact it's only since the 1920s grains entered our diet and only since 1950s sugar was wide spread.
Cripes. Is nothing good for us anymore?
Apparently not. All food is poison!
These facts.
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