What nobody tells you about losing weight
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@MargaretYakoda I don't know which expression @springlering62 was referring to, but the "paninis" bit is what gave me a chuckle. Too funny!MargaretYakoda wrote: »I love leggings that are high waisted and hold in the paninis (which is slowly decreasing- I suspect in part because of the near constant light compression)3 -
MargaretYakoda wrote: »springlering62 wrote: »@MargaretYakoda i don’t know whether that was an accidental spellchecker delight or a Margaret-ism, but either way you made my day!
“Bingo wings”?
Not my phrase. It’s what I’ve heard those flappy hanging upper arm flaps called for decades.
I do love it, though. It’s so expressive.
@MargaretYakoda I think she meant the paninis? At least that's what struck me when reading 🙂
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No one wants to hear this, but don't get rid of your fat clothes. Only 5% of those who lose weight are going to maintain the loss long term. Nothing is worse than having to go shopping and have to spend $$$ for larger sizes after you start to regain. Its easier to go shopping in the back of your closet or in the box in the cellar. It does not mean you don't have faith that you will maintain. It means you are being realistic. Wait about 5 years, then you can donate any that don't fit.5
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MargaretYakoda wrote: »springlering62 wrote: »@MargaretYakoda i don’t know whether that was an accidental spellchecker delight or a Margaret-ism, but either way you made my day!
“Bingo wings”?
Not my phrase. It’s what I’ve heard those flappy hanging upper arm flaps called for decades.
I do love it, though. It’s so expressive.
@MargaretYakoda I think she meant the paninis? At least that's what struck me when reading 🙂
Its actually called a pannus, hanging belly fat from weight loss.4 -
No one wants to hear this, but don't get rid of your fat clothes. Only 5% of those who lose weight are going to maintain the loss long term. Nothing is worse than having to go shopping and have to spend $$$ for larger sizes after you start to regain. Its easier to go shopping in the back of your closet or in the box in the cellar. It does not mean you don't have faith that you will maintain. It means you are being realistic. Wait about 5 years, then you can donate any that don't fit.
Well THAT'S a sobering statistic !!2 -
No one wants to hear this, but don't get rid of your fat clothes. Only 5% of those who lose weight are going to maintain the loss long term. Nothing is worse than having to go shopping and have to spend $$$ for larger sizes after you start to regain. Its easier to go shopping in the back of your closet or in the box in the cellar. It does not mean you don't have faith that you will maintain. It means you are being realistic. Wait about 5 years, then you can donate any that don't fit.No one wants to hear this, but don't get rid of your fat clothes. Only 5% of those who lose weight are going to maintain the loss long term. Nothing is worse than having to go shopping and have to spend $$$ for larger sizes after you start to regain. Its easier to go shopping in the back of your closet or in the box in the cellar. It does not mean you don't have faith that you will maintain. It means you are being realistic. Wait about 5 years, then you can donate any that don't fit.
Well THAT'S a sobering statistic !!
Following up on @carolpa1's post, here is some data to take comfort in:
JANUARY 13, 2020
8 MIN READ
Unexpected Clues Emerge About Why Diets Fail
The physiology of weight regain still baffles scientists, but surprising insights have emerged
BY DANIEL ENGBER & NATURE MEDICINE
... Just last year, a team of researchers at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, led by David Allison, put out a rodent study of a provocative idea: what if there were lasting benefits to losing weight—even when that weight is almost certain to be regained? The researchers randomized 552 obese, Black-6 mice into four groups: one set of animals ate a high-fat diet at will and remained obese; another two sets received either moderate or more extreme caloric restriction, and stabilized at a ‘normal’ or intermediate weight; and a fourth was put through several yo-yo cycles of restricted and ad libitum feed, losing weight and then gaining it right back.
At the end of the study, the mice that remained obese throughout the experiment had markedly increased mortality: they lived, on average, for just 21 months, as compared to the 26-month average lifespan of the mice that had been put on the most extreme diets and kept at a normal weight. More surprising was the fact that the yo-yo mice also gained longevity, by virtue of their weight cycling: they lived an average of 23 months, about the same as the mice that were kept under chronic, moderate calorie restriction.
In other words—at least for mice—it may be that weight regain doesn’t cancel out all the benefits of dieting. Those who feel they’re going around in circles may take some solace in this notion: even if your fat cells tug and twist your weight loss back to zero, that doesn’t mean that you’ve been pulled back to where you started.
link - https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unexpected-clues-emerge-about-why-diets-fail/4 -
No one wants to hear this, but don't get rid of your fat clothes. Only 5% of those who lose weight are going to maintain the loss long term. Nothing is worse than having to go shopping and have to spend $$$ for larger sizes after you start to regain. Its easier to go shopping in the back of your closet or in the box in the cellar. It does not mean you don't have faith that you will maintain. It means you are being realistic. Wait about 5 years, then you can donate any that don't fit.
For me, it was the other way around. Having fat clothes in the closet was implicit permission that it was OK to go back. They had to go.
I’m cheap, too, which is another reason not to balloon up again.
I need some reason nipping at my butt to keep me in line during maintenance. The thought of having to suck it up, put away my new clothes, admit defeat, and slink into TJ Maxx is a very good reason. I never want to forget the humiliation of the young skinny LuLu clerk looking me up and down and sniffing,”Ma’am, there’s nothing in this store that would fit you.”12 -
You will sink in the swimming pool instead of floating automatically. It is fun to be able to sit on the bottom of the pool.6
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@carolpa1 I learned from Marie Kondo not to use my home for storage of stuff that doesn’t represent who I am, and who I aim to be. My closet is for clothes that fit me well, and make me feel & look great. It is not a dumping ground for things I may someday need if things go poorly.
As for the fact that most people regain the weight they lost — for me this was motivation to figure out how people lose and then maintain successfully, so that I can join them. The key, as far as I can tell, is to have a plan for maintenance, and follow through (rather than thinking that once I’m done losing weight, I can „go back to normal.“ There is no going back: I’m permanently changing my lifestyle, so that I never have to do this again.11 -
@mkksemail Thanks for the link. It's an interesting article for sure. The Yo-Yo mice outcome surprised me! Kind of reinforces the idea of keep on keepin' on, even if you should backslide. And while this may seem disheartening, it really isn't if you remember about the Yo-Yo'ers and puts forth the idea that weight loss is very individual--what works for one may not work for another:
The one point on which nearly all researchers agree is that the physiology of weight regain, like the physiology of obesity itself, is almost certain to reflect a very complicated mix of factors ranging from genetics to behavior and the environment. That means we’re unlikely to find any magic-bullet method for keeping pounds from coming back.5 -
Neon_hippie wrote: »@mkksemail Thanks for the link. It's an interesting article for sure. The Yo-Yo mice outcome surprised me! Kind of reinforces the idea of keep on keepin' on, even if you should backslide. And while this may seem disheartening, it really isn't if you remember about the Yo-Yo'ers and puts forth the idea that weight loss is very individual--what works for one may not work for another:
The one point on which nearly all researchers agree is that the physiology of weight regain, like the physiology of obesity itself, is almost certain to reflect a very complicated mix of factors ranging from genetics to behavior and the environment. That means we’re unlikely to find any magic-bullet method for keeping pounds from coming back.
Thanks, @Neon_hippie
. Yea, that absolutely surprised me too! And then I was ..... hmmmm 🤔💭 ..... and remembered that Dr. Valter Longo, the author of "The Longevity Diet", has pretty much said the same thing - periodic autophagic fasting (5 days of his "Fast Mimicking Diet"/FMD) leads to lengthened healthspan and lengthened lifespan in mice, and also in limited human trials. (I'm 3 Rounds in to a 4-monthly monthly Rounds protocol of his Prolon FMDs). And plus - I'm a YOYO! 😜, I lost 30 pds over 18 mos, starting 3 yrs ago, and gained it all back over about 15 mos 
. I'm just over 3-mos in to 'beginning again' (~ 18 lbs down, currently). So you know, it resonated with me ;-).
Cheers!
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No one wants to hear this, but don't get rid of your fat clothes. Only 5% of those who lose weight are going to maintain the loss long term. Nothing is worse than having to go shopping and have to spend $$$ for larger sizes after you start to regain. Its easier to go shopping in the back of your closet or in the box in the cellar. It does not mean you don't have faith that you will maintain. It means you are being realistic. Wait about 5 years, then you can donate any that don't fit.
I figure that the easier and more convenient I make it to regain, the more likely it is that I'll do so. That may not be playing the odds, but perhaps a little nudge in the direction of changing the odds.
I was overweight to obese for around 30 years. I've been at a healthy weight for 8 so far since loss.
It's not the only tool in my maintenance toolkit, but a thing I know about myself is that I utterly hate to clothes shop. (New wardrobe from underwear on out was the worst thing about losing 50ish pounds.) Other than a few baggy things I wear around the house, I got rid of the larger sized clothes. Doing that is part of the push toward staying thin.
YMMV. Does, evidently.11 -
47Jacqueline wrote: »- Having the saleswoman look at you and say, Ok, you wear a "small" right?
that'll never happen to me, because i'm tall 😔5 -
No one wants to hear this, but don't get rid of your fat clothes. Only 5% of those who lose weight are going to maintain the loss long term. Nothing is worse than having to go shopping and have to spend $$$ for larger sizes after you start to regain. Its easier to go shopping in the back of your closet or in the box in the cellar. It does not mean you don't have faith that you will maintain. It means you are being realistic. Wait about 5 years, then you can donate any that don't fit.
I'd disagree and say getting rid of my 'fat clothes' gave me even more incentive to maintain my weight loss. To me, keeping them meant not having faith in myself that I could be successful.
If I'd assume I'd fail, I would fail.
I lost 110lbs 2016-2017 and continue to maintain today.
I donated all my 'fat' clothes in 2017.
To me, it meant I was realistic in my desire to succeed in 2017.
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Way to go @John772016 I'm working to follow in your footsteps! (And yes my bigger clothes are have been leaving the house in periodic installments.)5
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I'm actually actively trying to lose weight this time around not the meh I'm gaining weight I should do something, log for a couple of weeksand maybe increase activity for a bit, but no real effort. I'm the heaviest I've ever been. Now I'm being extremely self-critical of my body. While my clothes size and fit, and my weight and my measurements tell me I need to lose weight, I'm criticizing the way i look -squishy, lumpy, cellulitey, every stretch mark, etc, etc.8
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My goal is survival. At age 68, a fifty-year smoker with COPD, weighing in at two hundred and eighty pounds on my six foot-half inch frame, generally idling at the computer daily, I did not feel so good. Lugging the lard had become troublesome. I would get out of breath quickly. I was depressed. Then...
The clouds parted, and I got busy. In around 2017, I was down to two hundred pounds. With the aid of a nutritionist and myfitnesspal, I had lost eighty pounds. I knew that I could do this again and learn how to maintain once my goal was reached.
Getting busy means doing strenuous physical activities designed to improve the quality of life for me and my wife. It's my form of gym. Since I started two months ago, I've lost twenty-five pounds, rebuilt and filled an eighteen-foot by thirty-three-foot above-ground pool, landscaped the back yard, Got the patio clean and shiny again, Hauled off a lot of junk, and reclaimed my garage and driveway. Initially, I swore off snacks and sugar, then jumped back on My Fitness Pal about six weeks ago. I am already feeling the difference in getting some of my wind back. Today's exercise was a bonus on that score. The Jacking my wife's car up to rebuild the brakes exercise. There is a lot of squatting when doing this job, and some weight lifting. Lifting a five thousand pound car with a scissors jack added some strength effort. While in a squat position operating the jack, I noticed that I hadn't passed out and was breathing sufficiently. It was an encouraging moment. Next up is building new kitchen cabinets and better nutrition.21 -
The knee bone quote is right on. I can’t find a comfortable way to stack em now, guess I will try a pillow between them as I am a side sleeper all the way!4
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I’m really grumpy that as my weight goes down a 40min run burns fewer calories!7
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