WHAT, NESTLE, HOW COULD YOU?!?!
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They do this so they do not need to raise prices when food prices change. Unfortunately if you love chocolate or coffee you will see prices going up on coffee and smaller bars soon. The price of both commodities has doubled in the last 3 yrs.
I'm angry now - they keep telling us sweeties are not getting smaller but that's 62g, my snicker is only 48g - basterds!
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TrickyDisco wrote: »I no longer buy Nestle products since reading this:
http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestlefree#overview
It's off topic to the issue of artificial colouring - but, yes, it concerns me too.
A few years ago there were widespread boycotts of Nestles in response to their unethical marketing of formula in 3rd world countries. Nestles did respond to pressure and improve - but, as feared, once the issue fades from the public eye they gradually creep back to their old practices.
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paperpudding wrote: »TrickyDisco wrote: »I no longer buy Nestle products since reading this:
http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestlefree#overview
It's off topic to the issue of artificial colouring - but, yes, it concerns me too.
A few years ago there were widespread boycotts of Nestles in response to their unethical marketing of formula in 3rd world countries. Nestles did respond to pressure and improve - but, as feared, once the issue fades from the public eye they gradually creep back to their old practices.
The scandal was kind of just the tip of the iceberg with Nestle. Really not a nice company at all... None of my previous schools or my current university even sell the stuff on campus. The issues may have faded from the public eye but it's nice to see boycotts for such things still sticking around - maybe fixing the public opinion with them as a company is part of the incentive to start the whole 'natural' product thing?0 -
You know what was also originally called marathon too?
Halo.0 -
Yes, I don't know what they were called over there. They were Marathon here and Snickers in Europe and they changed loads of stuff so it was the same name in the EU.
Changing Jif to Cif annoyed me too (bathroom cleaner not peanut butter) I don't like change
There is talk of them trying to mess with our Irn Bru too - they can't sell it in the US because the colouring is illegal over there XD
No One messes with Irn Bru! I know what you mean about the recipe for it, the only way I can get the real deal here in Canada is from this small import shop that sort of smuggles it in haha.
That’s my favourite bathroom cleaner, incidentally. Who knew how many changes are made… I hear you, I get attached to brands / names, mostly because they remind me of my childhood or whatnot.0 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Swiss chocolate, in general, I find to be overrated.
Big fan of the Belgian stuff, though.
You know..friends of mine went to Belgium and brought back chocolates...verrry good, they were Cailler...and saying how that rivals my Swiss chocolate. Except, when I looked on the package, it had a Swiss flag on it. LoL So I still have yet to try any Belgian chocolate.
I know people talk about Swiss chocolates a lot, (including myself!!) but its all Ive ever had besides American chocolate or chocolates made for sale in America (because indeed...the same product overseas can be so different than what they ship here because of the gvt regulations here).
Swiss chocolate went down in quality about ten years when ingredients were relaxed - Belgian and French chocolates are much better now. Trust me on this - I've been a chocolate mule across Europe for 20+ years.
This is very interesting. Last I’ve had chocolate over there, about a year ago now, I bought some from chocolatiers, not supermarkets. It’s different when you buy stuff off the shelves. Pity, that. Alas, at least there will always be chocolate (I hope…).0 -
I will definately support Nestle!0
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Did anyone here about the salmonella scare in Cadburys a few yrs ago? It was obviously in the UK. Just wondered how far it spread. Free 500 calories for anyone knows how that happened. If you think additives are bad lol0
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Right on, do it and report back with detailed findings!
I think that’s a keen observation about Swiss chocolate, if memory serves they invented a process for making chocolate that results in a much smoother end product. [remembers there is a thing called the Internet] Ah yes, it’s called a conche and was invented by Lindt in 1879, and it’s a special mixer typa thing.
I confess that though I want to like dark chocolate, I still really love the milk stuff best.
You know, I never considered myself as having a "refined palate" lol so its actually really cool to find out its not in my head and I am picking up on these nuances and actually enjoying what I like because of them!Swiss chocolate went down in quality about ten years when ingredients were relaxed - Belgian and French chocolates are much better now. Trust me on this - I've been a chocolate mule across Europe for 20+ years.
I don't trust you!!! Only because I want to try for myself hehe!! You are only giving me more reasons to get myself to Europe...
I do have a man of interest who lives in Switzerland, we will be seeing each other in a couple months. Maybe, just maybe I can convince him to do a little shopping for me. *hrmmm!!!!!*
Tell him to buy Neuhaus. Use that as you yardstick.0 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Swiss chocolate, in general, I find to be overrated.
Big fan of the Belgian stuff, though.
You know..friends of mine went to Belgium and brought back chocolates...verrry good, they were Cailler...and saying how that rivals my Swiss chocolate. Except, when I looked on the package, it had a Swiss flag on it. LoL So I still have yet to try any Belgian chocolate.
I know people talk about Swiss chocolates a lot, (including myself!!) but its all Ive ever had besides American chocolate or chocolates made for sale in America (because indeed...the same product overseas can be so different than what they ship here because of the gvt regulations here).
Swiss chocolate went down in quality about ten years when ingredients were relaxed - Belgian and French chocolates are much better now. Trust me on this - I've been a chocolate mule across Europe for 20+ years.
This is very interesting. Last I’ve had chocolate over there, about a year ago now, I bought some from chocolatiers, not supermarkets. It’s different when you buy stuff off the shelves. Pity, that. Alas, at least there will always be chocolate (I hope…).
I buy Lindt from the supermarket because that's just my base stock - pepper/salt and caramel/wasabi. But since I go to Lille France every week and drive through Belgium, I also do chocolate runs there.
Probably the best I've ever tasted : http://www.benoitchocolats.com/en/our-history/
Met him last week at his store. Just impressive taste.
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squirrelzzrule22 wrote: »was anyone saying that the purpose of this change was to help people lose weight (genuine question)?
I prefer to eat natural when possible. I don't harbor any delusions that it makes a kitkat healthy. But I'd rather eat a kitkat with all natural ingredients than one pumped with chemicals and preservatives. If you haven't had all natural chocolate before, I can assure you it does not taste like butt. In my experience it is completely delicious and way tastier than the chocolate in your average candy bar and a THOUSAND times tastier than that really fake tasting chocolate in cheap easter treats, etc. A real chunk of all natural dark milk chocolate is my number one indulgent treat...you can get bricks of it at whole foods. It is exactly the level of sweetness that I like. Not to mention cadbury whilst actually in the UK...*kitten* is incredible.
+1. Give me the real stuff anytime.0 -
paperpudding wrote: »TrickyDisco wrote: »I no longer buy Nestle products since reading this:
http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestlefree#overview
It's off topic to the issue of artificial colouring - but, yes, it concerns me too.
A few years ago there were widespread boycotts of Nestles in response to their unethical marketing of formula in 3rd world countries. Nestles did respond to pressure and improve - but, as feared, once the issue fades from the public eye they gradually creep back to their old practices.
- the same reason why I boycott Nestle
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Nestle has a lot of brands, for those who boycott-
http://www.nestle.com/aboutus/ourbrands
I didn't know about the formula issue. I don't fault them for the candy changes. People want to feel like they're eating better food, even if it's chocolate. It's marketing. If you prefer more cheaply made candy, it's on the shelf.0 -
Did anyone here about the salmonella scare in Cadburys a few yrs ago? It was obviously in the UK. Just wondered how far it spread. Free 500 calories for anyone knows how that happened. If you think additives are bad lol
I'd like to reiterate this point. I'm am always wary of preservative free foods because it means bacteria growth will occur far more quickly, especially if the food has not been prepared or stored in ideal conditions. Unless you made it yourself or watched it being made, you really don't know how safe that "all natural" food really is. Preservatives act as a 2nd line of defense against mistakes in preparation, handling and storage. Yes, there are down sides but it's quite telling that we now see so little food poisoning in the modern world that when it does occur, it makes the news.0 -
WalkingAlong wrote: »Nestle has a lot of brands, for those who boycott-
http://www.nestle.com/aboutus/ourbrands
I didn't know about the formula issue. I don't fault them for the candy changes. People want to feel like they're eating better food, even if it's chocolate. It's marketing. If you prefer more cheaply made candy, it's on the shelf.
Hm, I'm not giving up haagen dazs... And interesting to note that the same company makes lean cuisine, hot pockets, and stouffers.0 -
It might be the same amount of calories but at least you won't be at a higher risk for cancer for eating all that crap.
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
I buy Lindt from the supermarket because that's just my base stock - pepper/salt and caramel/wasabi. But since I go to Lille France every week and drive through Belgium, I also do chocolate runs there.
Probably the best I've ever tasted : http://www.benoitchocolats.com/en/our-history/
Met him last week at his store. Just impressive taste.
I am saving this information in the hopes that I’ll get to try it! In the meantime, supermarket it is. And salt & caramel has got to be one of my favourites. As are all things spicy.
I don't trust you!!! Only because I want to try for myself hehe!! You are only giving me more reasons to get myself to Europe... I do have a man of interest who lives in Switzerland, we will be seeing each other in a couple months. Maybe, just maybe I can convince him to do a little shopping for me. *hrmmm!!!!!*
I just really like that you used the expression “man of interest”. I suddenly feel like I’m in an episode of White Collar, chocolate edition.
Also, sorry all for going rather off topic the artificial colours/flavourings discussion. I have tried to avoid such things in the past, but after seeing a perfectly healthy person get sick I sort of stopped caring. Not exactly statistically relevant, but what can you do.0 -
spacequiztime wrote: »
I can't stand those eggs. I'm weird I guess. I didn't know that hershey made Reese's cups.
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They do this so they do not need to raise prices when food prices change. Unfortunately if you love chocolate or coffee you will see prices going up on coffee and smaller bars soon. The price of both commodities has doubled in the last 3 yrs.
I'm angry now - they keep telling us sweeties are not getting smaller but that's 62g, my snicker is only 48g - basterds!
Free economics lesson
Shame it's wrong, the prices have rises 'coz inflation. Believe me, I'd be delighted to still be paying 20p for a smaller bar (and 50p for petrol and £10 a week for my gas, for that matter). I'd also like a baby Jigglypuff but life sucks
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Swiftlet66 wrote: »It might be the same amount of calories but at least you won't be at a higher risk for cancer for eating all that crap.
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Man, I friggin' LOVE chemicals.
Tocopherol, unghhh.. more please.. wanna rub it on mah faaace..0 -
Yes, I don't know what they were called over there. They were Marathon here and Snickers in Europe and they changed loads of stuff so it was the same name in the EU.
Changing Jif to Cif annoyed me too (bathroom cleaner not peanut butter) I don't like change
There is talk of them trying to mess with our Irn Bru too - they can't sell it in the US because the colouring is illegal over there XD
ahhh i still remember marathon, jif, oil of ulay and opal fruits
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
Right on, do it and report back with detailed findings! I think that’s a keen observation about Swiss chocolate, if memory serves they invented a process for making chocolate that results in a much smoother end product. [remembers there is a thing called the Internet] Ah yes, it’s called a conche and was invented by Lindt in 1879, and it’s a special mixer typa thing.
I confess that though I want to like dark chocolate, I still really love the milk stuff best.
You know, I never considered myself as having a "refined palate" lol so its actually really cool to find out its not in my head and I am picking up on these nuances and actually enjoying what I like because of them!Swiss chocolate went down in quality about ten years when ingredients were relaxed - Belgian and French chocolates are much better now. Trust me on this - I've been a chocolate mule across Europe for 20+ years.
I don't trust you!!! Only because I want to try for myself hehe!! You are only giving me more reasons to get myself to Europe... I do have a man of interest who lives in Switzerland, we will be seeing each other in a couple months. Maybe, just maybe I can convince him to do a little shopping for me. *hrmmm!!!!!*
Tell him to buy Neuhaus. Use that as you yardstick.
Might not need to - we have Neuhaus boutiques in the US, and they ship.
But, although I know the chocolate is made in Belgium and shipped here for sale, I don't know if there are changes made for the US market.
Man, it's been probably 20+ years since I had Neuhaus - used to love them. I remember getting a chocolate soldier and a huge slice of chocolate cake from one of their boutiques (that has since closed) when I was about 6 or 7 yrs. old. First and only time I ended up with hives from over-consumption of chocolate. Lesson learned. Do not have a massive chocolate drink and a massive slice of chocolate cake with chocolate ganache plus a couple of complimentary chocolates in one sitting.0 -
ruqayyahsmum wrote: »
Yes, I don't know what they were called over there. They were Marathon here and Snickers in Europe and they changed loads of stuff so it was the same name in the EU.
Changing Jif to Cif annoyed me too (bathroom cleaner not peanut butter) I don't like change
There is talk of them trying to mess with our Irn Bru too - they can't sell it in the US because the colouring is illegal over there XD
ahhh i still remember marathon, jif, oil of ulay and opal fruits
Haha but Choco Krispies was a step too far!! We are showing our age
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Haha. Pretty sure the giant 'sharing size' *snicker* snickers would require running a marathon to burn off.0 -
I have the privilege of living near Hershey Park. Chocolate world's logo includes the Reese's cup.
Let us remember, some of the people picking the cocoa beans have never even tasted chocolate candy. Some have no clue why people even buy the beans after they handle them. There are bigger issues in life than Nestle changing their ingredients. Get over it; be happy you can even afford to buy it.0 -
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Lindy Salted Carmel bar. They are only $1 at Target and are the best chocolatey goodness ever. They make other flavors, but the salted caramel does it for me.0
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