Addicted to 2% milk, is it bad for me?

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  • sunshyncatra
    sunshyncatra Posts: 598 Member
    I love the taste of a glass of milk but my body doesn't. If you can drink it and fit it into your goals, go for it!
  • CallMeCupcakeDammit
    CallMeCupcakeDammit Posts: 9,377 Member
    This is from an article by Alan Aragon
    If you're dieting, the lower-fat option is an easy way to save a few calories. When it comes to building muscle, though, whole milk may be your best choice: Scientists at the University of Texas medical branch in Galveston found that drinking whole milk after lifting weights boosted muscle protein synthesis—an indicator of muscle growth—2.8 times more than drinking skim did.

    Read more: http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/dairy_products/Skim_or_Whole.php#ixzz2VMVYo9JG

    I had recently read that whole milk was the best. I was trying to find where I read it (the above is not what I was looking for). I realize OP said she can't drink it, but I'm just putting that out there. I drink 2% myself. :smile:
  • EmmaKarney
    EmmaKarney Posts: 690 Member
    Pros...it's better than drinking whole,

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    What makes it "better" than whole.

    It has less fat, and therefore less calories - so you can drink more of it and still stick within your calorie goals.

    However if you are trying to make a certain fat macro target then 4% milk might be "better" for you.
  • darkguardian419
    darkguardian419 Posts: 1,302 Member
    Only 2% of it is bad, so drink 98% of the glass and dump the rest in the sink, otherwise you'll get sick and have to do a cleanse...
  • TangledUp_InBlue
    TangledUp_InBlue Posts: 397 Member
    7. Whole Milk

    Want to lighten up that coffee? Whole milk may be the way to go. Whole milk contains large amounts of vitamins A and D naturally – skim and low-fat milk are fortified with synthetic versions of these vitamins. In small amounts, a few extra calories may amount to a lot of extra vitamins. The extra fat, in moderation, may even help long-term weight loss. A Swedish study of 19,000 over 9 years found that women who had one serving of whole milk or cheese a day put on less weight than women who ate the same foods less often.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennifercohen/2012/09/11/10-foods-that-are-surprisingly-good-for-you/
  • Meg_Shirley_86
    Meg_Shirley_86 Posts: 275 Member
    I respect that everyone has been told their whole lives that it is good for your bones, and am not trying to troll or aggravate anyone. In my post I hoped to make it clear that I think you should have what you enjoy. The truth of the matter is that both high and low fat milk leech calcium from your bones. I drank milk my while life (like a beast, I loved the stuff) until I had heard this argument and looked into it. Research it yourself, and see how you feel about it. I'm not telling anyone to do what I do.

    Listen pal, I live in Kansas City, and falling cows are nothing to laugh about. It happens to me on the way into the office constantly. Why do you think I'm so concerned about bone density?

    ETA: I've had my own personal doctor tell me that I was correct in my findings, two others (as I'm seeing someone nearly every week during my pregnancy) tell me that they think there is a reason that as a country we consume so much dairy but have the highest rates of hip fractures and osteoporosis, and one gawk at me as if I were growing antlers.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/raw_milk_health_benefits.html
  • escloflowneCHANGED
    escloflowneCHANGED Posts: 3,038 Member
    Milk is only marginally better then smoking crack as far as addictions go IMO
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    Milk is only marginally better then smoking crack as far as addictions go IMO

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  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    I respect that everyone has been told their whole lives that it is good for your bones, and am not trying to troll or aggravate anyone. In my post I hoped to make it clear that I think you should have what you enjoy. The truth of the matter is that both high and low fat milk leech calcium from your bones. I drank milk my while life (like a beast, I loved the stuff) until I had heard this argument and looked into it. Research it yourself, and see how you feel about it. I'm not telling anyone to do what I do.

    Listen pal, I live in Kansas City, and falling cows are nothing to laugh about. It happens to me on the way into the office constantly. Why do you think I'm so concerned about bone density?

    ETA: I've had my own personal doctor tell me that I was correct in my findings, two others (as I'm seeing someone nearly every week during my pregnancy) tell me that they think there is a reason that as a country we consume so much dairy but have the highest rates of hip fractures and osteoporosis, and one gawk at me as if I were growing antlers.

    I'm tired of hearing this new wives tale. It's patently untrue and the reasoning behind this myth is even more redonculous than the myth itself.

    In the end, if your body still produces lactase as an adult and you don't have any other medical issues, milk is a great source of many nutrients.

    Stop the milk hate. It's udderly despicable.
  • Meg_Shirley_86
    Meg_Shirley_86 Posts: 275 Member
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-full-story/

    http://www.who.int/nutrition/publications/public_health_nut8.pdf

    The studies are still disputed, and results vary for different age groups, but I feel safer getting my calcium from other foods, and full disclosure, am now of the belief that we don't need milk once we are weaned as infants, and definitely don't need it from another species. I'm not telling anyone else what to do, just saying it doesn't hurt to be open-minded or skeptical about studies that are done within the respective industry that sells whatever the subject may be.

    ETA: I don't hate milk! I made it clear that there isn't conclusive evidence just yet. The WHO (not the band) does acknowledge the studies, and I do tend to lean more towards research without a vested interest. If I was unclear in that, then well, there is my stance.
  • NikoM5
    NikoM5 Posts: 488 Member
    I drink 3% for the extra calories and benefits of fat. Yes, you read that correctly.
  • richardheath
    richardheath Posts: 1,276 Member
    I respect that everyone has been told their whole lives that it is good for your bones, and am not trying to troll or aggravate anyone. In my post I hoped to make it clear that I think you should have what you enjoy. The truth of the matter is that both high and low fat milk leech calcium from your bones. I drank milk my while life (like a beast, I loved the stuff) until I had heard this argument and looked into it. Research it yourself, and see how you feel about it. I'm not telling anyone to do what I do.

    Listen pal, I live in Kansas City, and falling cows are nothing to laugh about. It happens to me on the way into the office constantly. Why do you think I'm so concerned about bone density?

    ETA: I've had my own personal doctor tell me that I was correct in my findings, two others (as I'm seeing someone nearly every week during my pregnancy) tell me that they think there is a reason that as a country we consume so much dairy but have the highest rates of hip fractures and osteoporosis, and one gawk at me as if I were growing antlers.

    What is the actual scientific evidence for this? The reasons I have seen online (and uncited) are that milk is an "acidifying" food, but that is clearly bunk.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22081694

    And any putative correlations between hip fracture rates and milk drinking are only that - correlations. It could also be that people who drink more milk are also less active, or have the genetic predisposition to lower bone mass... Correlation is not causation.
  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
    you'll have to pry my milk from my cold dead hands.

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  • richardheath
    richardheath Posts: 1,276 Member
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-full-story/

    http://www.who.int/nutrition/publications/public_health_nut8.pdf

    The studies are still disputed, and results vary for different age groups, but I feel safer getting my calcium from other foods, and full disclosure, am now of the belief that we don't need milk once we are weaned as infants, and definitely don't need it from another species. I'm not telling anyone else what to do, just saying it doesn't hurt to be open-minded or skeptical about studies that are done within the respective industry that sells whatever the subject may be.

    ETA: I don't hate milk! I made it clear that there isn't conclusive evidence just yet. The WHO (not the band) does acknowledge the studies, and I do tend to lean more towards research without a vested interest. If I was unclear in that, then well, there is my stance.

    The first link says that milk may not be the best source for calcium - it doesn't say to avoid milk altogether!

    The second also does not show calcium is leeched from bones by milk. In fact, it suggests that countries where milk/dairy intake is low have an increased risk of osteoporosis.

    I'm more than happy to entertain the notion that milk may not the best source of calcium (damn you milk marketing board for lying to me ;-) ), but I'm yet to be convinced that it is actually detrimental to bone health.
  • marioalberto1
    marioalberto1 Posts: 142 Member
    Dairy: 6 Reasons You Should Avoid It at all Costs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O-ehIkwGME
  • bumblebums
    bumblebums Posts: 2,181 Member
    Dairy: 6 Reasons You Should Avoid It at all Costs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O-ehIkwGME

    If I have to choose between cow's milk and bullsh*t, I'll take the former.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I respect that everyone has been told their whole lives that it is good for your bones, and am not trying to troll or aggravate anyone. In my post I hoped to make it clear that I think you should have what you enjoy. The truth of the matter is that both high and low fat milk leech calcium from your bones. I drank milk my while life (like a beast, I loved the stuff) until I had heard this argument and looked into it. Research it yourself, and see how you feel about it. I'm not telling anyone to do what I do.

    Listen pal, I live in Kansas City, and falling cows are nothing to laugh about. It happens to me on the way into the office constantly. Why do you think I'm so concerned about bone density?

    ETA: I've had my own personal doctor tell me that I was correct in my findings, two others (as I'm seeing someone nearly every week during my pregnancy) tell me that they think there is a reason that as a country we consume so much dairy but have the highest rates of hip fractures and osteoporosis, and one gawk at me as if I were growing antlers.

    Care to explain how milk leached calcium from your bones...I will wait.

    Also, heard about correlation not being causation?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-full-story/

    http://www.who.int/nutrition/publications/public_health_nut8.pdf

    The studies are still disputed, and results vary for different age groups, but I feel safer getting my calcium from other foods, and full disclosure, am now of the belief that we don't need milk once we are weaned as infants, and definitely don't need it from another species. I'm not telling anyone else what to do, just saying it doesn't hurt to be open-minded or skeptical about studies that are done within the respective industry that sells whatever the subject may be.

    ETA: I don't hate milk! I made it clear that there isn't conclusive evidence just yet. The WHO (not the band) does acknowledge the studies, and I do tend to lean more towards research without a vested interest. If I was unclear in that, then well, there is my stance.

    The first link says that milk may not be the best source for calcium - it doesn't say to avoid milk altogether!

    The second also does not show calcium is leeched from bones by milk. In fact, it suggests that countries where milk/dairy intake is low have an increased risk of osteoporosis.

    I'm more than happy to entertain the notion that milk may not the best source of calcium (damn you milk marketing board for lying to me ;-) ), but I'm yet to be convinced that it is actually detrimental to bone health.
    Yep. And the main reason why it may not be the best source is because it does not contain other nutrients necessary to absorb the calcium, whereas veggies do. However, this is generally fixed by eating foods from a variety of sources.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Dairy: 6 Reasons You Should Avoid It at all Costs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O-ehIkwGME

    If I have to choose between cow's milk and bullsh*t, I'll take the former.

    word
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    Addicted to milk? Now I have heard everything.
  • kiwanda88
    kiwanda88 Posts: 20 Member
    Over the last 25 years I drank about a gallon of skim milk a week, sometimes more. I stopped cold turkey two months ago, after realizing I was drinking 400-600 calories a day in milk, sometimes twice that as I'd have two 16 oz glasses at dinner.
  • luisalg14
    luisalg14 Posts: 202 Member
    There's occasional milk drinking going on in my household (my hubby more than myself, whenever he's having a few biscuits). We drink the lactose free variety. I usually have 2% with my cereal, but sometimes I have whole milk too (when I run out of 2%, as we buy one of each). It's nice with a bit of Nesquick for a treat too :smile:
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
    As long as it's organic, go for it.
    Non organic milk comes from cows raised on GMO grains, shot with vaccines, growth hormones and antibiotics.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,218 Member
    As long as it's organic, go for it.
    Non organic milk comes from cows raised on GMO grains, shot with vaccines, growth hormones and antibiotics.
    Not everyone lives in the USA. I do buy organic cows milk once in a while but as far as a dairy for drinking is concerned I drink organic goats milk, love it. :smile:
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    As long as it's organic, go for it.
    Non organic milk comes from cows raised on GMO grains, shot with vaccines, growth hormones and antibiotics.

    Not necessarily.
  • FP4HSharon
    FP4HSharon Posts: 664 Member
    Pros...it's better than drinking whole, if it's within your calories & your diet is balanced then not a huge deal. If you drink more milk, then usually you need to cut back on your meat/fish/chicken protein intake, as well as your carb intake, because milk has the proteins & carbs.

    Cons...you actually get more calcium the LESS fat there is in milk(14 mg less in a cup of 2% compared to skim), animals (people too) tend to store toxic stuff in their fat so when you drink/eat the fat you're taking that in, 32 more calories a cup than skim, you could be using the calories for other healthier things.

    IF you want to try to switch over to skim, I'd start mixing your 2% w/a little 1% & keep increasing the 1% until that's all it is. Then do the same w/the 1% & skim, until it's all skim. If you can get to 2%, you can usually get to skim pretty easy.

    .

    I actually have zero issues with skim and 1%. The only milk I can't drink is whole. It makes me feel so horrible and sick. However, my better half turns up his nose at anything that is "reduced fat" or 'fat free" ...buying cheese for that man is a small nightmare. haha Man, I love him though, so I think we can compromise a little with the milk. Maybe I will just mix it and not tell him? ;)

    I tried "mixing" it w/my teens...my son didn't notice the difference, but my daughter did. On the reduced fat cheese, I'd recommend the Sargento reduced fat cheddar and/or colby cheese sticks, they taste better than most out there.

    An added bit of calcium vs bones education from someone who has a sister who was diagnosed w/early onset osteoporosis in her 30's....most people think when you consume calcium, it goes to your bones. They also think that if you don't consume calcium your bones just don't get it. That's only partly true. Our body tries to maintain a certain amount of calcium in our blood. IF we consume enough to do that, then any extra also goes into our bones, especially w/some low/high impact exercise & vitamin D. BUT this is a daily constant need. So if you don't get enough calcium through diet, your body pulls the calcium from your bones to put into your bloodstream. It's a LOT easier for your body to pull it out of your bones, than for you to get it back in. That's why it's so iimportant to get enough calcium every single day, because every day you don't is a day it gets pulled from your bones. Also, food calcium is absorbed into the bloodstream & bones much more readily than supplements.
  • marioalberto1
    marioalberto1 Posts: 142 Member
    Dairy: 6 Reasons You Should Avoid It at all Costs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O-ehIkwGME

    If I have to choose between cow's milk and bullsh*t, I'll take the former.
    Why is it "Bullsh*t?
  • vedra_b
    vedra_b Posts: 136 Member
    got this from the livestrong website:

    While 2 percent milk is excessively high in saturated fat, 1 percent milk is a good source of nutrition. According to "Fitness Magazine," 1 percent milk is among the healthiest beverages. It provides all of the components of a healthy meal: carbohydrates, protein and a little bit of fat. Furthermore, of its calcium and vitamin D content, 1 percent milk is an important food for preventing the bone disease osteoporosis, particularly in women. Some research, including a study published in "Annals of Nutrition and Metabolism" in 2010, has also linked increased consumption of dietary calcium from dairy sources to weight loss in overweight women

    Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/430719-1-vs-2-milk/#ixzz2VYf9vqr8
  • april7141
    april7141 Posts: 3
    Okay dairy police here lol. Yes Milk is not good for you. It's nature's perfect food for a calf. Having said that i still do eat some dairy products that i want to eventually cut out of my diet completely. I grew up brainwashed into thinking Milk does a body good crap and that's just not true. There are plenty of other resources to get your calcium from. But if you must, It's your body. Enjoy your glass of hormones.

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