when did boycotting cardio become the cool thing to do?
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OP will not respond at all.Everyone should lift or otherwise do some sort of resistance training as well as cardio...most people I know who are at all into fitness do both because they understand that having an all around good level of fitness requires both.
Also, I highly doubt you'd look like that in a million years...so I wouldn't worry about lifting heavy things and putting them down. Even with decent genetics and being a dude, that would take you a loooonnnnnggggg time and some serious dedication to the weight room.
Just go get your fitness on...lift heavy things and put them down and do some cardio for your heart.
This.
But to clarify, OP probably isn't going to pick things up and put them down because weightlifters are bulky.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1009044-why-are-there-so-many-bulky-weightlifters
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I suspect it's an inevitable reaction to the "the secret to effective weight loss is cardio and lots of it" mantra.
But yeah, as was pointed out previously, http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1009044-why-are-there-so-many-bulky-weightlifters provides plenty of insight into OP's views on the topic.0 -
bumping to read for later0
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At the risk of being obnoxiously pedantic, it was the "frankly" that was later added. Rhett says "My dear, I don't give a damn" in the book and "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" in the movie.
As a die-hard Gone With The Wind fan, I must point out that Rhett Butler actually said, "Frankly, i don't give a damn". People have added in the "my dear" over time for dramatic effect.0 -
Cardio is good for your heart and weight lifting is great as well i like a combo of both0
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Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Lol......Who do you think could rescue a large person from a burning building better? The weight lifter or the surfer dude or dudette? But I do suppose a good runner could get away from a poisonous snake better. Guess it depends on what challenges you are talking about as to which is better. They both have their strengths, no need to trash either IMO.0 -
I think that some people have taken the no cardio thing a little too far. In terms of fitness a balanced approach between resistance and cardio is always going to be best. Assessing your goals will help determine which end of the spectrum you fall. Stop training purely for aesthetics and make your training fitness and goal oriented and you'll get much better results.0
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I do not think cardio is for wusses at all. I truly admire the people who are able to mentally punish themselves like that, and I am completely jealous of the people who actually enjoy it. It's just not my thing, and I realized, after a year of nothing but cardio, that there was a more efficient (and, for me, far more enjoyable) way to lose fat. I chose that way.
I'm not going to hate on anyone who has a goal and is trying hard to achieve it or who pursues what makes them feel good. Being a great runner is just not my goal. And being really freaking strong is what makes me feel good.0 -
Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Wow. Assuming much are we? Who knew we had some sort of athletic legend in our midst.
Considering that I use this site to maintain between two weights between on and off season mostly...
Yep, not really assuming much considering the general population of this site.... I see daily posts about people struggling or extremely proud of 5km runs... And I'm like sure.. Be proud when thats basically a warm up for god sakes
I'm not assuming much, not at all! I'm just being honest from what I see posted daily... Why the hell must I lie? To make you feel better? Why? What benefit does that have for me?
I come top usually in my age groups, must I not be proud? I win races also depending distance, can I not be proud about that? Just because some people can't does that mean I can't be happy of what I can do?
It's the same as fat people and fit/skinny people. It is perfectly acceptable for the fat people to say bad things about the one group, but DARE they say anything back and all horror breaks loose usually! Seems the same reaction here.
I'm good, and to be honest, why must I hide it? Because you do not like it? Sorry... I'm not playing this stupid game anymore, I'm sick of watching what I say but others can insult me constantly and what I do and I apparently have to accept it.0 -
Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Wow. Assuming much are we? Who knew we had some sort of athletic legend in our midst.
Considering that I use this site to maintain between two weights between on and off season mostly...
Yep, not really assuming much considering the general population of this site.... I see daily posts about people struggling or extremely proud of 5km runs... And I'm like sure.. Be proud when thats basically a warm up for god sakes
I'm not assuming much, not at all! I'm just being honest from what I see posted daily... Why the hell must I lie? To make you feel better? Why? What benefit does that have for me?
I come top usually in my age groups, must I not be proud? I win races also depending distance, can I not be proud about that? Just because some people can't does that mean I can't be happy of what I can do?
It's the same as fat people and fit/skinny people. It is perfectly acceptable for the fat people to say bad things about the one group, but DARE they say anything back and all horror breaks loose usually! Seems the same reaction here.
I'm good, and to be honest, why must I hide it? Because you do not like it? Sorry... I'm not playing this stupid game anymore, I'm sick of watching what I say but others can insult me constantly and what I do and I apparently have to accept it.
What a piece of work :laugh:0 -
I dunno. I lift, do some cardio, and throw in a bit of yoga for good measure. I've pretty much tailored my routine to suit my goals and interests, and don't pay much attention to what's cool at the moment (except maybe Prancercise. That's some happenin' *kitten*.).
Who could resist Prancercise?! I mean, some cardio is really about looking awesome and feeling lively.0 -
Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Wow. Assuming much are we? Who knew we had some sort of athletic legend in our midst.
Considering that I use this site to maintain between two weights between on and off season mostly...
Yep, not really assuming much considering the general population of this site.... I see daily posts about people struggling or extremely proud of 5km runs... And I'm like sure.. Be proud when thats basically a warm up for god sakes
I'm not assuming much, not at all! I'm just being honest from what I see posted daily... Why the hell must I lie? To make you feel better? Why? What benefit does that have for me?
I come top usually in my age groups, must I not be proud? I win races also depending distance, can I not be proud about that? Just because some people can't does that mean I can't be happy of what I can do?
It's the same as fat people and fit/skinny people. It is perfectly acceptable for the fat people to say bad things about the one group, but DARE they say anything back and all horror breaks loose usually! Seems the same reaction here.
I'm good, and to be honest, why must I hide it? Because you do not like it? Sorry... I'm not playing this stupid game anymore, I'm sick of watching what I say but others can insult me constantly and what I do and I apparently have to accept it.
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Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Wow. Assuming much are we? Who knew we had some sort of athletic legend in our midst.
Considering that I use this site to maintain between two weights between on and off season mostly...
Yep, not really assuming much considering the general population of this site.... I see daily posts about people struggling or extremely proud of 5km runs... And I'm like sure.. Be proud when thats basically a warm up for god sakes
I'm not assuming much, not at all! I'm just being honest from what I see posted daily... Why the hell must I lie? To make you feel better? Why? What benefit does that have for me?
I come top usually in my age groups, must I not be proud? I win races also depending distance, can I not be proud about that? Just because some people can't does that mean I can't be happy of what I can do?
It's the same as fat people and fit/skinny people. It is perfectly acceptable for the fat people to say bad things about the one group, but DARE they say anything back and all horror breaks loose usually! Seems the same reaction here.
I'm good, and to be honest, why must I hide it? Because you do not like it? Sorry... I'm not playing this stupid game anymore, I'm sick of watching what I say but others can insult me constantly and what I do and I apparently have to accept it.
What a piece of work :laugh:
I edited too late but I did add that there are pro surfers that lift/weight train. So I think trying to put all surfers in your category doesn't work.0 -
The reason is because cardio is an extremely ineffective means of exercise. Also, it has no benefit that resistance training cannot offer.
Most people don't exercise because they love to exercise, they do it because they want to look/feel good. Why spend an hour lifting weights with 3 minute rest periods, then spend another hour on the treadmill in your "fat burning zone", when you can combine them and be out of the gym in 30 minutes?
If you love to run, continue running, but the the truth is many people spend hours a week doing cardio in hopes of getting that "tone" or "lean" look when it will never happen without adding in resistance training.0 -
It's only anecdotal, but the numbers from my annual check up got WAY better once I started incorporating cardio into my workouts. Cholesterol, blood sugar, pulse rate, all got better.0
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Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Wow. Assuming much are we? Who knew we had some sort of athletic legend in our midst.
Considering that I use this site to maintain between two weights between on and off season mostly...
Yep, not really assuming much considering the general population of this site.... I see daily posts about people struggling or extremely proud of 5km runs... And I'm like sure.. Be proud when thats basically a warm up for god sakes
I'm not assuming much, not at all! I'm just being honest from what I see posted daily... Why the hell must I lie? To make you feel better? Why? What benefit does that have for me?
I come top usually in my age groups, must I not be proud? I win races also depending distance, can I not be proud about that? Just because some people can't does that mean I can't be happy of what I can do?
It's the same as fat people and fit/skinny people. It is perfectly acceptable for the fat people to say bad things about the one group, but DARE they say anything back and all horror breaks loose usually! Seems the same reaction here.
I'm good, and to be honest, why must I hide it? Because you do not like it? Sorry... I'm not playing this stupid game anymore, I'm sick of watching what I say but others can insult me constantly and what I do and I apparently have to accept it.
Wait, what? You came to all of those conclusions based only on what you read in the forums?
I honestly don't know how you stack up against all of the other members here, but from what I've seen of your posts in this thread, you're definitely my favorite...
...if the contest is jumping to conclusions.
ETA:
You may want to update your inspirations in your profile given the information in your post:Maybe I can run and actually win a race!I win races also depending distance...0 -
Find something you enjoy and do it what ever happened to that statement. I very much enjoy my runs so that is what I do and it has served me well. If someone hates to run I wont tell them to run nor if someone hates weight lifting I would not tell them to do it . But tell them to find something you enjoy and your more apt to stick with it. I will admit recently I have been incorporating some resistance training but I still enjoy my runs way more and if I had to choose id be out running.0
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Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Lol......Who do you think could rescue a large person from a burning building better? The weight lifter or the surfer dude or dudette? But I do suppose a good runner could get away from a poisonous snake better. Guess it depends on what challenges you are talking about as to which is better. They both have their strengths, no need to trash either IMO.
Exactly!
At least you get it, I get joked about it daily, yet people are scared to come surfing with me complaining they might get killed... So really? We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and why people have to put others down constantly I got no idea! I'm just sick of it... Hence why I'd rather be honest now than oh so nice and kind and look for MFP "likes" or whatever... I'm me, people either like me or hate me, I don't care.
I show respect to those who show they deserve it, not hard concept
You lift weights and perform well? I'll applaud and show you respect!
You act like you lift a lot, you talk s***, and want me to respect you? Nope, never going to happen in a million years.
This whole cardio vs weights? I don't know if anyone met Usain Bolt... cause he is a sprinter, not a weight lifter... Yet look at him.. And yet people still want to say cardio is rubbish and will never get you ripped at all? I'm willing to bet loads of people wish they had his body here, and yet they bash the very thing he does...
I loved arnolds body when he was younger, the proportions on his frame was magnificent!
Everyone should respect each other yet they don't and on this site, everyone tries to go against cardio. Yet I only see people doing what? MAX of rough 25m 5km? Seriously? You run slow and then bash cardio... I'm sick of it, that is all...0 -
At the risk of being obnoxiously pedantic, it was the "frankly" that was later added. Rhett says "My dear, I don't give a damn" in the book and "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" in the movie.
As a die-hard Gone With The Wind fan, I must point out that Rhett Butler actually said, "Frankly, i don't give a damn". People have added in the "my dear" over time for dramatic effect.
*kitten* you are totally right!!! I have shamed myself. Seriously. I have a massive GWTW poster signed by Clark Gable in my living. How could I have forgotten?? Can i please hide now? lol, i may need to, the MFP forum stalkers are going to eat me alive. Oh no!0 -
A person will sometimes devote all his life to the development of one part of his body - the wishbone.
Robert Frost0 -
Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Lol......Who do you think could rescue a large person from a burning building better? The weight lifter or the surfer dude or dudette? But I do suppose a good runner could get away from a poisonous snake better. Guess it depends on what challenges you are talking about as to which is better. They both have their strengths, no need to trash either IMO.
Exactly!
At least you get it, I get joked about it daily, yet people are scared to come surfing with me complaining they might get killed... So really? We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and why people have to put others down constantly I got no idea! I'm just sick of it... Hence why I'd rather be honest now than oh so nice and kind and look for MFP "likes" or whatever... I'm me, people either like me or hate me, I don't care.
I show respect to those who show they deserve it, not hard concept
You lift weights and perform well? I'll applaud and show you respect!
You act like you lift a lot, you talk s***, and want me to respect you? Nope, never going to happen in a million years.
This whole cardio vs weights? I don't know if anyone met Usain Bolt... cause he is a sprinter, not a weight lifter... Yet look at him.. And yet people still want to say cardio is rubbish and will never get you ripped at all? I'm willing to bet loads of people wish they had his body here, and yet they bash the very thing he does...
I loved arnolds body when he was younger, the proportions on his frame was magnificent!
Everyone should respect each other yet they don't and on this site, everyone tries to go against cardio. Yet I only see people doing what? MAX of rough 25m 5km? Seriously? You run slow and then bash cardio... I'm sick of it, that is all...
LOL
You say that like Usain Bolt doesn't lift weights.
*facepalm*
*headdesk*
ETA: And much...(likely more accurately most)...of the running that he does is not "cardio" either.0 -
For the same effort lifting weights/resistance training does WAY more positives for your physique than anything but a good diet. Also lifting shares some of the same overall health benefits of cardio.
From a physique standpoint cardio is equal to or sometimes worse than just not eating those calories you burned.
But is " physique " all it is about with all persons ?
How about those who enjoy running and possible long distance running ?
Wouldn't it be more important for them to develop endurance through cardio instead of big muscles through resistance training ?
Not all people who want to be fit want to get a " physique ", some just want to feel good/healthy.
I for example can't wait for the day I can lift again, but also realize that not all people are like me. When I still lifted seriously, I also did cardio....not very much, but enough to not only have strength, but also some endurance.0 -
Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Wow. Assuming much are we? Who knew we had some sort of athletic legend in our midst.
Considering that I use this site to maintain between two weights between on and off season mostly...
Yep, not really assuming much considering the general population of this site.... I see daily posts about people struggling or extremely proud of 5km runs... And I'm like sure.. Be proud when thats basically a warm up for god sakes
I'm not assuming much, not at all! I'm just being honest from what I see posted daily... Why the hell must I lie? To make you feel better? Why? What benefit does that have for me?
I come top usually in my age groups, must I not be proud? I win races also depending distance, can I not be proud about that? Just because some people can't does that mean I can't be happy of what I can do?
It's the same as fat people and fit/skinny people. It is perfectly acceptable for the fat people to say bad things about the one group, but DARE they say anything back and all horror breaks loose usually! Seems the same reaction here.
I'm good, and to be honest, why must I hide it? Because you do not like it? Sorry... I'm not playing this stupid game anymore, I'm sick of watching what I say but others can insult me constantly and what I do and I apparently have to accept it.
What a piece of work :laugh:
I edited too late but I did add that there are pro surfers that lift/weight train. So I think trying to put all surfers in your category doesn't work.
I do lift weights, and train 4 times a week with weights 5 with cardio and surf as much as possible... What is your point? That I said I never do weights? Cause that is a lie, even when I am training for 90km+ races I still do weights...
On this site the general attitude is less cardio more weights, yet no one pushes hard with cardio... As an example, when last do people train 10-20m at 170-190BPM for their heart rate for thresholds...0 -
Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Lol......Who do you think could rescue a large person from a burning building better? The weight lifter or the surfer dude or dudette? But I do suppose a good runner could get away from a poisonous snake better. Guess it depends on what challenges you are talking about as to which is better. They both have their strengths, no need to trash either IMO.
Exactly!
At least you get it, I get joked about it daily, yet people are scared to come surfing with me complaining they might get killed... So really? We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and why people have to put others down constantly I got no idea! I'm just sick of it... Hence why I'd rather be honest now than oh so nice and kind and look for MFP "likes" or whatever... I'm me, people either like me or hate me, I don't care.
I show respect to those who show they deserve it, not hard concept
You lift weights and perform well? I'll applaud and show you respect!
You act like you lift a lot, you talk s***, and want me to respect you? Nope, never going to happen in a million years.
This whole cardio vs weights? I don't know if anyone met Usain Bolt... cause he is a sprinter, not a weight lifter... Yet look at him.. And yet people still want to say cardio is rubbish and will never get you ripped at all? I'm willing to bet loads of people wish they had his body here, and yet they bash the very thing he does...
I loved arnolds body when he was younger, the proportions on his frame was magnificent!
Everyone should respect each other yet they don't and on this site, everyone tries to go against cardio. Yet I only see people doing what? MAX of rough 25m 5km? Seriously? You run slow and then bash cardio... I'm sick of it, that is all...
LOL
You say that like Usain Bolt doesn't lift weights.
*facepalm*
*headdesk*
It's a well known fact sprinters lift weights... Like what the hell... Seriously...0 -
Man, I just want to loose weight and running works for me and I actually enjoy it!! I do a few arm curls and squats from time to time but I'd much rather be running.0
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I don't think people are bashing cardio itself. It's the lack of weight training that's an issue. If you just run marathons all the time without any sort of weight/resistance training, then you slowly lose your lean mass. Muscles are important.
I agree with this. Surely it's about variety? And being sensible?
To be frank, OP, I'm not sure that the tone of your opening post is really going to help a sensible/serious conversation about this. You sound awfully cranky about it.0 -
Who knows. Cardio is important for the heart. And the legs do build muscle from running.
In gym we learned that all three aspects of working out are important - so cardio, strength, and flexibility. I'm going to stick with that when I start working out again.0 -
Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Lol......Who do you think could rescue a large person from a burning building better? The weight lifter or the surfer dude or dudette? But I do suppose a good runner could get away from a poisonous snake better. Guess it depends on what challenges you are talking about as to which is better. They both have their strengths, no need to trash either IMO.
Exactly!
At least you get it, I get joked about it daily, yet people are scared to come surfing with me complaining they might get killed... So really? We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and why people have to put others down constantly I got no idea! I'm just sick of it... Hence why I'd rather be honest now than oh so nice and kind and look for MFP "likes" or whatever... I'm me, people either like me or hate me, I don't care.
I show respect to those who show they deserve it, not hard concept
You lift weights and perform well? I'll applaud and show you respect!
You act like you lift a lot, you talk s***, and want me to respect you? Nope, never going to happen in a million years.
This whole cardio vs weights? I don't know if anyone met Usain Bolt... cause he is a sprinter, not a weight lifter... Yet look at him.. And yet people still want to say cardio is rubbish and will never get you ripped at all? I'm willing to bet loads of people wish they had his body here, and yet they bash the very thing he does...
I loved arnolds body when he was younger, the proportions on his frame was magnificent!
Everyone should respect each other yet they don't and on this site, everyone tries to go against cardio. Yet I only see people doing what? MAX of rough 25m 5km? Seriously? You run slow and then bash cardio... I'm sick of it, that is all...
LOL
You say that like Usain Bolt doesn't lift weights.
*facepalm*
*headdesk*
It's a well known fact sprinters lift weights... Like what the hell... Seriously...
I believe what you and I have here is what is commonly known as a "failure to communicate"...
...because that was my point.
Regardless of where the fault for this lies, I will lose no sleep over it.
I wish you nothing but success in all your fitness and health goals. You got this! :flowerforyou: - ©20130 -
Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Wow. Assuming much are we? Who knew we had some sort of athletic legend in our midst.
Considering that I use this site to maintain between two weights between on and off season mostly...
Yep, not really assuming much considering the general population of this site.... I see daily posts about people struggling or extremely proud of 5km runs... And I'm like sure.. Be proud when thats basically a warm up for god sakes
I'm not assuming much, not at all! I'm just being honest from what I see posted daily... Why the hell must I lie? To make you feel better? Why? What benefit does that have for me?
I come top usually in my age groups, must I not be proud? I win races also depending distance, can I not be proud about that? Just because some people can't does that mean I can't be happy of what I can do?
It's the same as fat people and fit/skinny people. It is perfectly acceptable for the fat people to say bad things about the one group, but DARE they say anything back and all horror breaks loose usually! Seems the same reaction here.
I'm good, and to be honest, why must I hide it? Because you do not like it? Sorry... I'm not playing this stupid game anymore, I'm sick of watching what I say but others can insult me constantly and what I do and I apparently have to accept it.
Wait, what? You came to all of those conclusions based only on what you read in the forums?
I honestly don't know how you stack up against all of the other members here, but from what I've seen of your posts in this thread, you're definitely my favorite...
...if the contest is jumping to conclusions.
ETA:
You may want to update your inspirations in your profile given the information in your post:Maybe I can run and actually win a race!I win races also depending distance...
Yep, 2/3 years on this site, haven't changed and likely will never.. no point... Only thing I edited out was that frikking lance armstrong, everything else? i dont give two thoughts about. Who I need to impress anyway now? You? Nope, Sponsors? Yep...
So, why care? Also coming in top of category and top age is not the same as 1st place... I still haven't got 1st. I will but I haven't yet.
So at any rate, until I come 1st, those are still relevant. 2nd place is the first loser after all!0 -
So....getting back on topic....0
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