when did boycotting cardio become the cool thing to do?
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Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Lol......Who do you think could rescue a large person from a burning building better? The weight lifter or the surfer dude or dudette? But I do suppose a good runner could get away from a poisonous snake better. Guess it depends on what challenges you are talking about as to which is better. They both have their strengths, no need to trash either IMO.
Exactly!
At least you get it, I get joked about it daily, yet people are scared to come surfing with me complaining they might get killed... So really? We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and why people have to put others down constantly I got no idea! I'm just sick of it... Hence why I'd rather be honest now than oh so nice and kind and look for MFP "likes" or whatever... I'm me, people either like me or hate me, I don't care.
I show respect to those who show they deserve it, not hard concept
You lift weights and perform well? I'll applaud and show you respect!
You act like you lift a lot, you talk s***, and want me to respect you? Nope, never going to happen in a million years.
This whole cardio vs weights? I don't know if anyone met Usain Bolt... cause he is a sprinter, not a weight lifter... Yet look at him.. And yet people still want to say cardio is rubbish and will never get you ripped at all? I'm willing to bet loads of people wish they had his body here, and yet they bash the very thing he does...
I loved arnolds body when he was younger, the proportions on his frame was magnificent!
Everyone should respect each other yet they don't and on this site, everyone tries to go against cardio. Yet I only see people doing what? MAX of rough 25m 5km? Seriously? You run slow and then bash cardio... I'm sick of it, that is all...
LOL
You say that like Usain Bolt doesn't lift weights.
*facepalm*
*headdesk*
It's a well known fact sprinters lift weights... Like what the hell... Seriously...
I believe what you and I have here is what is commonly known as a "failure to communicate"...
...because that was my point.
Regardless of where the fault for this lies, I will lose no sleep over it.
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I need cardio fitness to effectively do my job, not bulk.
Plus no matter how many times I hear, "you won't look like that" from lifting, I then see photos on MFP from women who have been putting effort into lifting, and while they're liking how they look, it's not the look I'm going for.
I want lean as much as possible; both for my job and how I want ME to look.
I lift fairly light weights 2, maybe 3 times a week, and that's good for me.
Lift away those who want that, and runners run the miles you want. Both can coexist.
Me? I do a bit of both, neither to the extreme or exclusion of the other. My ultimate goal being that I can keep up this routine for the next decade or two of my life.0 -
I love my speed rope. That is all.0
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I honestly don't care what anybody else thinks about what I'm doing with my time or my body. Post whatever article you like, put up whatever poster you want, say whatever comment you wish. Don't bother me none.
^this
Who gives a rats *kitten* what some article says? I cared so much that I didn't even read it.0 -
Everyone should lift or otherwise do some sort of resistance training as well as cardio...most people I know who are at all into fitness do both because they understand that having an all around good level of fitness requires both.
^ This.
The cardio bashing on this site has gotten a bit ridiculous, IMO.
I also don't judge others by what exercises they choose to do. Unless it's washing the dishes, cooking, or vacuuming. Sorry, but that ain't exercise.
Do you judge them if they log the sexy time?0 -
All I got to say is MOVE IT, LIFT IT and ENJOY it...0
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Everyone should lift or otherwise do some sort of resistance training as well as cardio...most people I know who are at all into fitness do both because they understand that having an all around good level of fitness requires both.
^ This.
The cardio bashing on this site has gotten a bit ridiculous, IMO.
I also don't judge others by what exercises they choose to do. Unless it's washing the dishes, cooking, or vacuuming. Sorry, but that ain't exercise.
Do you judge them if they log the sexy time?
Depends on the details. We'll most likely just offer tips or hi5s probably 0 -
I do both. I hear soooo many people who are trying to lose weight and get fit say that they just do cardio, and they think that's all there is to it. I think it's important to incorporate both, and not a lot of people seem to know that.
In for the six pack abs, though.0 -
Everyone should lift or otherwise do some sort of resistance training as well as cardio...most people I know who are at all into fitness do both because they understand that having an all around good level of fitness requires both.
^ This.
The cardio bashing on this site has gotten a bit ridiculous, IMO.
I also don't judge others by what exercises they choose to do. Unless it's washing the dishes, cooking, or vacuuming. Sorry, but that ain't exercise.
Do you judge them if they log the sexy time?
Depends on the details. We'll most likely just offer tips or hi5s probably
Well, on page 53 of the revised and modernized Kama Sutra, there's this... oh wait, maybe this isn't the best place for this.0 -
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Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Lol......Who do you think could rescue a large person from a burning building better? The weight lifter or the surfer dude or dudette? But I do suppose a good runner could get away from a poisonous snake better. Guess it depends on what challenges you are talking about as to which is better. They both have their strengths, no need to trash either IMO.
Exactly!
At least you get it, I get joked about it daily, yet people are scared to come surfing with me complaining they might get killed... So really? We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and why people have to put others down constantly I got no idea! I'm just sick of it... Hence why I'd rather be honest now than oh so nice and kind and look for MFP "likes" or whatever... I'm me, people either like me or hate me, I don't care.
I show respect to those who show they deserve it, not hard concept
You lift weights and perform well? I'll applaud and show you respect!
You act like you lift a lot, you talk s***, and want me to respect you? Nope, never going to happen in a million years.
This whole cardio vs weights? I don't know if anyone met Usain Bolt... cause he is a sprinter, not a weight lifter... Yet look at him.. And yet people still want to say cardio is rubbish and will never get you ripped at all? I'm willing to bet loads of people wish they had his body here, and yet they bash the very thing he does...
I loved arnolds body when he was younger, the proportions on his frame was magnificent!
Everyone should respect each other yet they don't and on this site, everyone tries to go against cardio. Yet I only see people doing what? MAX of rough 25m 5km? Seriously? You run slow and then bash cardio... I'm sick of it, that is all...
LOL
You say that like Usain Bolt doesn't lift weights.
*facepalm*
*headdesk*
It's a well known fact sprinters lift weights... Like what the hell... Seriously...
Did your username used to be Pu-something?0 -
It honestly all comes down to what works for you. If cardio gets you up and moving, hurray. If it's weights, hurray. An hour of anything is better than 15 minutes. 15 minutes of anything is better than nothing.
Do what works for you.0 -
Having recently started doing crossfit. . My lack of cardio is what's really slowing me down the most. I get winded and hit the wall before my muscles give out... . so yeah. Maybe you don't need as much cardiovascular health to lift heavy weights all day. .but I don't think being huge is necessarily the same as being fit.0
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You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and why people have to put others down constantly I got no idea! I'm just sick of it...
I show respect to those who show they deserve it, not hard concept
Yep, not really assuming much considering the general population of this site.... I see daily posts about people struggling or extremely proud of 5km runs... And I'm like sure.. Be proud when thats basically a warm up for god sakes
Everyone should respect each other yet they don't and on this site, everyone tries to go against cardio. Yet I only see people doing what? MAX of rough 25m 5km? Seriously? You run slow and then bash cardio... I'm sick of it, that is all...
I'm just going to leave these excerpts here.
You are a huge hypocrite.
You preach respect and not putting others down, but bash people who are trying to make a difference in their lives because they are struggling, "slow," or proud of their 5km "warm ups." I doubt you were a "top runner" overnight and you had to start somewhere.
You, sir, are not respecting anyone. You, in fact, are a judgmental jerk.0 -
But, frankly we all don't give a damn? :laugh:At the risk of being obnoxiously pedantic, it was the "frankly" that was later added. Rhett says "My dear, I don't give a damn" in the book and "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" in the movie.
Also being pedantic (because it makes it more funny when it's totally hypocritical) but if poisonous snakes existed you wouldn't need to run away from any of them, just don't eat them and you're ok. :laugh:But I do suppose a good runner could get away from a poisonous snake better.0 -
I don't pay attention. I have only done strength training/no cardio for the last year or so but I know I need to do cardio, too. I'm thinking of trying a spin class. I'm kinda bummed my gym doesn't have a pool0
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I don't get the cardio-bashing. Both strength training and cardio are important. I'm a runner and recently completely my first half marathon and the thrill and sense of accomplishment when I crossed that finish line was like nothing I've experienced before.0
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id really like serious discussion about this because literally everyday i see these anti cardio messages on instagram, twitter, facebook from men and women alike.
You would like to have a serious discussion? I haven't read through the responses, but your history shows it is not going to happen in these forums. If i am not mistaken, you are the one that posts about it being wrong to shop in workout clothes and are pissed that your roommate ate your cookies because that was going to be your replacement for sex.0 -
I think people are more rejecting the hamsterwheels that are ellipticals and treadmills.
They are only "hamsterwheels" if you don't know how to train properly.0 -
When I realized I freakin' hated it. I still do cardio, but it's very brief, or very relaxed. No more jogging. Unless it's specifically being done to hang out with hot chicks. I am weak. I always make an exception for hot chicks.0
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Everything in moderation...and that includes cardio. People are not bashing cardio per se, but they do bash the notion that one needs 1.5 - 2 hrs a day of cardio to achieve a certain "look" or level of physical fitness. The point many are trying to make is that resistance training is also important and just as important as cardio. Neither should be done in excess, nor should one exist without the other, IMO.
Every athlete thinks they play the greatest sport. Marathoners think running is the best sport, quarterbacks think football is the greatest sport, and power lifters think weightlifting is the greatest sport. Don't let a few skewed opinions get you down. If you ENJOY doing what you do and you know it works for your body, then DO IT and don't change a thing.
Then "they" should actually find someone who is advocating "1.5 - 2 hrs a day" of cardio and address that directly with them.
The whole "weights vs cardio" argument has more strawmen than a Wizard of Oz costume party.0 -
If you'd like to have a serious discussion, don't hang out on instagram, twitter, or facebook.id really like serious discussion about this because literally everyday i see these anti cardio messages on instagram, twitter, facebook from men and women alike.0 -
When I realized I freakin' hated it. I still do cardio, but it's very brief, or very relaxed. No more jogging. Unless it's specifically being done to hang out with hot chicks. I am weak. I always make an exception for hot chicks.
Lol, atta boy! :laugh:0 -
I lost LOTS of muscle doing cardio - I stick to 20 mins HIITS now0
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Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Wow. Assuming much are we? Who knew we had some sort of athletic legend in our midst.
Considering that I use this site to maintain between two weights between on and off season mostly...
Yep, not really assuming much considering the general population of this site.... I see daily posts about people struggling or extremely proud of 5km runs... And I'm like sure.. Be proud when thats basically a warm up for god sakes
I'm not assuming much, not at all! I'm just being honest from what I see posted daily... Why the hell must I lie? To make you feel better? Why? What benefit does that have for me?
I come top usually in my age groups, must I not be proud? I win races also depending distance, can I not be proud about that? Just because some people can't does that mean I can't be happy of what I can do?
It's the same as fat people and fit/skinny people. It is perfectly acceptable for the fat people to say bad things about the one group, but DARE they say anything back and all horror breaks loose usually! Seems the same reaction here.
I'm good, and to be honest, why must I hide it? Because you do not like it? Sorry... I'm not playing this stupid game anymore, I'm sick of watching what I say but others can insult me constantly and what I do and I apparently have to accept it.
You must be a very unhappy person to feel the need to be so cocky and believe you are superior to others.0 -
The reason is because cardio is an extremely ineffective means of exercise. Also, it has no benefit that resistance training cannot offer.
Most people don't exercise because they love to exercise, they do it because they want to look/feel good. Why spend an hour lifting weights with 3 minute rest periods, then spend another hour on the treadmill in your "fat burning zone", when you can combine them and be out of the gym in 30 minutes?
If you love to run, continue running, but the the truth is many people spend hours a week doing cardio in hopes of getting that "tone" or "lean" look when it will never happen without adding in resistance training.
Wait so cardio is now a bad form of exercise? Ok tell my body that, I lost 80lbs in 7 months doing nothing but cardio.... every day. I still do it every day. I went from walking 3km to running 10km a day in a month. Yep hardly fit..... forget it...it's like trying to explain why egg yolks wont kill you to someone who is scared to death of chickens.
Cardio ineffective hahaha...yep my ELITE fitness state right now at the age of 38 despite being unfit for 36 of those years is no reason to LOVE cardio right?
Yeah I LOVE exercise...I do. It's why I get up in the morning & do it ALL day.0 -
Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha0 -
People who think Cardio doesn't do anything are idiots, you need your cardiovascular system to live.
Cardio increases the ability to get everything flowing around the body.
My weight loss has been primarily Cardio and diet. Sure i probably lost muscle but so what, you don't need big arms and legs to live
i do more intense cardio including jogging, cross training, rowing and cycling so not just walking on a treadmill for days on end.
and add in
Weights and more importantly for me, Core resistance.
It's a total workout, Cardio alone is probably not a good thing unless you are purely after endurance and being a marathon runner.
but Cardio should certainly be atleast 50% of your workout.0 -
ive noticed in social media outlets more and more people are bragging about not doing cardio
example: http://statigr.am/p/426009128144813040_144762381
what kind of message does this send?
where is the humble explanation for this? its always some guy or girl posing with a "cardio is for wussies" message attached
you couldnt pay me to look like that guy and that is no offense to him. im sure he works hard and i could be inspired by that.
i dont understand the narrow minded view that we should all lift and get big muscles and skip cardio because weak people do it and you dont want to look weak do you? if youre a girl, you should be ripped and have a six pack. if youre a guy, you should look like an NFL linebacker. when did this become the standard? so i am wasting my time doing cardio even though i really enjoy it and ive experienced benefits from it? i am a hamster in a wheel now? im not a spartan of the gym? personally i would get more satisfaction completing the tour de france than deadlifting 1,001 lbs. but why is social media holding that against me now? im not athletic? im not alpha male?
id really like serious discussion about this because literally everyday i see these anti cardio messages on instagram, twitter, facebook from men and women alike.
just bothers me :frown: that really amazing looking, hard working people (because thats how i see them) would want the general public to fall into THEIR mold
When the OP posts pictures of himself rather than:
a) criticising powerlifters for being too fat in comparison to bodybuilders
b) criticising girls who are not flat-footed when they take pics (seriously)
c) whining about what other people want to do (or don't want to do) when they work out
then I'll play the game.
At the end of the day, people should do what they want and look however they want to. And the OP should probably stop posting these ridiculous threads........0
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