Forgive me, MFP for i have sinned
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »There is nothing wrong with chocolate, in moderation. What's the problem?
For some people (me included), the moderation part is the problem. For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink. I have had a problem like this since I was a child, have had therapy because of it, and it still plagues me. So for my own good, I'm not having chocolate, and to be honest, I'm not missing it one bit.
But I know if I were to get that mad craving, the kind that throws all good judgement out the window, I would binge on chocolate, but not dark. Milk chocolate, preferably in a pie. One day, I hope to develop the ability to eat sweets in moderation, but for now, no way.0 -
I recently began my weight loss endeavour. Today I walked into a grocery store to buy a head of lettuce. I picked the lettuce. Then walked to the till. That's when I saw it. The biggest, shiniest bar of chocolate you've ever seen. I must mention at this point that chocolate has always been my weakness. I looked at the lettuce in my hand, I thought of all the things it represented. I tried to reason with myself, and I failed. I didn't buy a chocolate bar. I bought TWO. 180g each. Went home and devoured as much of them as I could. And I feel absolutely sick. Not physically but emotionally. Why would I buy two? Why would I buy one? I feel like all my hardwork thus far has been for nothing. I feel like a failure. A loser who lacks self control. I'm not even going to log my food for today because it's a joke. I wouldn't even eat that much chocolate before. Why now? Please, to all you superstars who have won and are still winning the battle of the flab, where do you get the self control to just turn away from all the sweet and unhealthy goodies in life? How do you just not eat them? Sorry for the rant
Sweetie don't be mad at yourself. It's okay.
There is a solution.
The other day at work, a vendor sent me a gift package that contained a Pop Corn Pop chocolate bar. I saved it, took it home, and entered it under my foods in grams, and logged in my own designated portion that would fit in my calorie goals. That candy bar has 2 servings at 201 calories for each 40 some odd gram serving.
I broke off a bit, weighed it, logged it and ate it. About 65 calories. Put the rest away. Had a piece the next day. I'd say I have about 4 to 5 more servings in that candy bar. d
The solution is portion control. If I can do it, anybody can.
Oh, by the way, this candy bar is delicious--it has pop rock in it!
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I've struggled in the same way as you in the past. Previously when I've made that mistake I used to find it easy to justify eating what I wanted for the rest of the day because I'd already messed up. What changed for me though was logging everything. So even if I slipped up or had a bad day, logging it would keep the control in my hands rather than letting the food and temptation take over. I still get the feelings of temptation some days, but I just handle it differently now.
I'd also say to remember that even if you do make a mistake, the best thing you can do is carry on anyway. I'm over 3 stone down after a year and each time I find myself struggling I remind myself that if I hadn't put it behind me and forgiven myself and carried on, then I'd still be that weight now... and I'm sure in another year's time I will look back at 2015 and think the same. So forgive yourself, keep moving forwards, and you'll get there
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The great thing about MFP is you CAN eat whatever you want, just not ALL we want. I encourage you to log the chocolate you ate and adjust the rest of the day in order to meet your goal. If you're going over, go for a walk or get some other activity in. The issue here isn't the chocolate, it's telling yourself it is BAD. Nothing is bad in moderation. I lost 80 pounds and I had quite a few Peanut Butter cups along the way. 0
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4legsRbetterthan2 wrote: »1. Still log today so you know what the impact has been on your weekly goal.
2. Even the most successful people here have had experiences just like that, so far i have not met anyone claiming to be some perfect calorie counting robot.
3. Try to do better tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day. Old habits are hard to break and new ones are hard to form. That doesnt mean it cant be done but beating yourself up about a small setback doesnt get you there any faster. Today gave you a bit more knowledge about yourself that you can use in your battles tomorrow, never be ashamed to gain new knowledge.
excellent advice imo.
i now only buy small bars of chocolate for this exact reason.and cheese.and dried fruit.
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tinascar2015 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »There is nothing wrong with chocolate, in moderation. What's the problem?
For some people (me included), the moderation part is the problem. For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink. I have had a problem like this since I was a child, have had therapy because of it, and it still plagues me. So for my own good, I'm not having chocolate, and to be honest, I'm not missing it one bit.
But I know if I were to get that mad craving, the kind that throws all good judgement out the window, I would binge on chocolate, but not dark. Milk chocolate, preferably in a pie. One day, I hope to develop the ability to eat sweets in moderation, but for now, no way.
First of all, coming from an alcoholic (12 years sober), I highly resent the analogy. One can RESIST chocolate, where a true alcoholic has no power to RESIST alcohol. I suggest you do some research before painting with such a broad brush.
Secondly, average people have self control, therefore can fit chocolate into their allowances with no problem. Restricting, tends to make people want things more. Additionally, the OP has a poor relationship with food, perhaps yourself as well, if you are considering things bad.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »tinascar2015 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »There is nothing wrong with chocolate, in moderation. What's the problem?
For some people (me included), the moderation part is the problem. For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink. I have had a problem like this since I was a child, have had therapy because of it, and it still plagues me. So for my own good, I'm not having chocolate, and to be honest, I'm not missing it one bit.
But I know if I were to get that mad craving, the kind that throws all good judgement out the window, I would binge on chocolate, but not dark. Milk chocolate, preferably in a pie. One day, I hope to develop the ability to eat sweets in moderation, but for now, no way.
First of all, coming from an alcoholic (12 years sober), I highly resent the analogy. One can RESIST chocolate, where a true alcoholic has no power to RESIST alcohol. I suggest you do some research before painting with such a broad brush.
Secondly, average people have self control, therefore can fit chocolate into their allowances with no problem. Restricting, tends to make people want things more. Additionally, the OP has a poor relationship with food, perhaps yourself as well, if you are considering things bad.
T yup. That was me when I ate clean and had the worst relationship with food ever. Moderation didn't exist, only binging. Developing a healthy relationship with food and just seeing at all as food, now I don't binge. I sometimes have planned high calorie intake, but it's still not like it used to be and it comes from understanding how it will affect my goals. Usually it's from saving to calories so I can have larger servings while in social settings or getting take out.0 -
Dear OP I feel your pain. Yesterday i went to CVS and bought 2 packs of peeps. I love them and couldn't help myself. Yesterday i ate 4 bunnies. Today i ate the remainder 8 and went over my calories for the first time in 3 months. Don't feel bad. It happens. Log your food and keep it rollin tomorrow is a new day.0
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i fail to se the "sin" in eating a chocolate bar….
OP here is my advice..
stop viewing foods as 'good' and 'bad' ..there are no good and bad foods, food is just food. Make sure that you hit your macro/micro/calorie targets for the day and you will be fine..
so yes, yo ucan eat ice cream, a chocolate bar, etc, just make sure that your overall diet has nutrient dense foods in it like chicken, rice, vegetables, fish etc, and then fill in with treats that you like….
trust me, your new lifestyle will be a lot easier if you learn to incorporate all foods into it.0 -
Please, to all you superstars who have won and are still winning the battle of the flab, where do you get the self control to just turn away from all the sweet and unhealthy goodies in life? How do you just not eat them? Sorry for the rant
Im still working on my battle, but I don't end up over indulging on foods I cant have, because there are no foods I cant have. Just knowing I can eat something whenever I want to keeps me from going bat-s**t crazy when I finally get my hands on it lol Instead I just have a bit and work it into my day without feeling guilty about it.
Im in this to win it, Im in this as a lifestyle. Telling myself I can never eat something ever again, especially if its something I love, would be unrealistic and setting myself up for failure. I don't want to fail, so for me, self control means not allowing myself to do things that will cause me to fail...like deciding I cant have chocolate when I know full well I will want to one day.
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tinascar2015 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »There is nothing wrong with chocolate, in moderation. What's the problem?
For some people (me included), the moderation part is the problem. For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink. I have had a problem like this since I was a child, have had therapy because of it, and it still plagues me. So for my own good, I'm not having chocolate, and to be honest, I'm not missing it one bit.
But I know if I were to get that mad craving, the kind that throws all good judgement out the window, I would binge on chocolate, but not dark. Milk chocolate, preferably in a pie. One day, I hope to develop the ability to eat sweets in moderation, but for now, no way.
did you just compare a piece of chocolate to offering an alcoholic a drink?????
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Honestly... Moderation. I actually have a bit of chocolate or ice cream most days so I don't get those crazy cravings that make you eat the whole box. I haven't had a binge in 10 days since I started doing that, which is pretty amazing for me as I've been stuck in the binging/restricting cycle for months.
So, if I have calories left, you bet I'll have a piece of chocolate.0 -
I seem to be losing weight faster since I started eating chocolate frequently. I probably needed more fat in my diet.
The bars that I am eating are hazelnuts covered in dark chocolate--a fairly small portion.
Chocolate has antioxidants, phytochemicals--it's not a nutritionally empty food. If it fits your goals for the day, why not?0 -
Chocolate is my weakness too. I actually eat chocolate almost everyday - it helps me avoid chocolate cravings and binges! Don't stress out about eating it, just work towards moderation!0
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Please, do not be hard on yourself. Log it (you are in control of your logging, it is an important psychological step in my opinion) and move on.
As for the future, speaking as a fellow chocolate-lover: I -always- keep 85% cocoa chocolate in my bag and on my desk. It is a healthy addition to my diet and it is nearly impossible to eat more than two squares at a time, which adds up to about 120 calories. It takes care of the chocolate craving 90 % of the time.
Other times, I actually just want soft, sweet milk chocolate and no super-dark chocolate is going to fill that craving - and then I have some. I have learned to buy 100 grams, max, at a time. If I buy 200 gram bars, I am going to eat it all, so it is far better to do a controlled purchase.0 -
I've lost 29lbs so far since the start of this year and the main thing that has helped has been all the advice on MFP to not demonize food, and to eat what I like, just in moderation. To that end, I always make room at the end of my day for some ice cream and chocolate. I don't feel deprived, and it is much easier to say no to overeating during the day if it means I can't fit in my dessert
As for today, don't beat yourself up. Just log it, and move on. In the grand scheme of things, this wont even register as a blip.
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I eat chocolate pretty much every day. I get the GOOD stuff and enjoy a small, rich, delicious portion. Because I let myself have it every day, I never feel deprived and I am comfortable with how much I get to savor on.
The only exception is the first two days of my period. During that time, I eat a lot of chocolate and drink a lot of milk. At first, I would eat 6-8 setvings of chocolate for each of those days, but I am now comfortable with half that as an indulgence.0 -
I ate an entire family size bag of gummy life savers, some ice cream and some pizza this week. I was afraid to weigh today cause I knew it was a horrible week but I got on the scale. I was shocked to see I was down 1.5 pounds. All the good habits help so don't let one slip get you off track for the whole day or week. Instead log everything from today so you can see how a small slip isn't that big of deal and you can do that occasionally.0
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Make the next right choice.You can't change what is done so move on and don't let the bad choice define the whole day or worse cause you to quit.
You can eat whatever you want In moderation. If you are "dieting" you are likely to struggle. If you are deciding to make a change in your lifestyle, it is much easier. Attitude makes a huge difference.0 -
Just think of it as starting anew the next day. I overate and overdrank when I went away last week for my bday 4 day weekend..yeah, I gained a couple pounds BUT got back on track and yesterday the scale had me 2 pounds lighter then before my celebrations!0
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I eat chocolate nearly every day. Mmm! Chocolate! Because I can eat it (within my calorie goals), I don't end up going crazy and overeating it, bar after bar. Works out great.
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I have lost 123 pounds and been maintaining for a year. Yesterday I ate a tub and a half of Ben and Jerrys ice cream. When I was done with that deliciousness, I told myself "no guilt"
The trick is you just carry on. In the big scheme of things one day doesnt matter. What screwed me up for years, and screws up a lot of us I think, is the process that we go through. 1. We attempt to lose weight. 2. We have a meal or a snack or a day where we over eat. 3. We indulge in self loathing, shame and guilt. 4. We give up because we tell ourselves we just can do this. This thought process is what caused me to fail for years. It's perfectly ok to mess up sometimes, were only human, the trick is to just keep going and forgive yourself. I still struggle with this sometimes, but I think it's important to not let our food govern how we define the kind of person we are.0 -
tinascar2015 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »There is nothing wrong with chocolate, in moderation. What's the problem?
For some people (me included), the moderation part is the problem. For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink. I have had a problem like this since I was a child, have had therapy because of it, and it still plagues me. So for my own good, I'm not having chocolate, and to be honest, I'm not missing it one bit.
But I know if I were to get that mad craving, the kind that throws all good judgement out the window, I would binge on chocolate, but not dark. Milk chocolate, preferably in a pie. One day, I hope to develop the ability to eat sweets in moderation, but for now, no way.
Oh man, I can't believe you said that (bold part). Many a recovering alcoholic would vehemently disagree with you. Even someone me, who is not an alcoholic but has been dealing with practicing and recovering alcoholics her entire life, is put off with that statement.
If you eat too much, you can always moderate food. Overeating means you are not practicing willpower.
If you're an alcoholic, you cannot moderate, you must eliminate booze. While the first step is to stop drinking, alcoholism is a disease and requires abstinence.0 -
"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.0 -
laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
No it's not, you can't do it because you haven't learned how to. Moderation takes learning. Are you snorting sugar to fill your addiction?0 -
I eat chocolate almost every day. I get individually wrapped ones, and only eat one or two. Sometimes I want more, but I just remind myself that I can have another one tomorrow. They fit into my day pretty easily. I'm a fan of Dove, myself.0
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addiction is addiction. yeah it is!0
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Rome wasn't build in a day girl ! cut urself some slack!
my mothers birthday was yesterday and we had a delicious chocolate cake, I had 3 slices during the day and needless to say I loved every bite but the feeling at the end of the day.I had gained a pound and a half so what?! It'll take me a week more to lose it and that's what I'm up for , but at least I enjoyed yesterday to the max 0
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