Forgive me, MFP for i have sinned
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Life's not worth living without chocolate. Let yourself love the things you love. Just don't love them too much. It's ok to indulge the bulge every now and then, just don't make it a habit. Restricting yourself from having the foods you really want will kick in your fight or flight instinct regarding your diet, and if you are rebel like me, you will want to run away and eat a whole case of chocolate instead of avoiding it. SO let yourself have a few bites of a chocolate bar every now and then, just don't overindulge. Keep working on things and you will do great!0
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We don't turn away the chocolate. We eat it. Just not in mass quantity. Instead of 2 bars, we only have 1. Except on... you know... Halloween, Easter, etc. Then it's gloves off.0
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »There is nothing wrong with chocolate, in moderation. What's the problem?
The problem is she ate 360 grams of the stuff, about 2000 calories.0 -
laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.0 -
laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
Keep what in whose pants?
No need to shout.
If one were really addicted to sugar and chocolate, that would mean total abstinence or it could cause healthy problems, possibly even death. That would mean absolutely no sugar of any kind, which is impossible, and no chocolate of any kind, ever again because then it would be a relapse.
Not being able to control oneself around sugar and chocolate is not a mark of addiction, it's a lack of self-control. I know because I used to buy into that whole sugar addiction (thought chocolate was okay if it was sugar free. Ick!), until I figured out my body does not really know the difference between a sugar in fruit or chocolate or cookies
Everything in moderation.
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laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.
But, it's not an actual addiction to the food itself. Maybe it's the need for a certain feeling certain food provides, or the fulfillment of some emotional need, but it's not a true blue addiction.0 -
laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.
But, it's not an actual addiction to the food itself. Maybe it's the need for a certain feeling certain food provides, or the fulfillment of some emotional need, but it's not a true blue addiction.
maybe not, but i think the word is used because they don't have a better one. not a reason for people to get offended. it's not as though it's a competition for who has it harder, a person with food issues vs an alcoholic.0 -
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Amen to all the good advice! By all means, be honest with yourself. Nobody is calling you on the mat and punching you; it's between you and MFP. ---
---"I'm not even going to log my food for today because it's a joke. I wouldn't even eat that much chocolate before. Why now?
Seems to me, your body is telling you that you deprived yourself a little too much. You were probably very hungry... forgive yourself, allow yourself a little more food in the future, and by all means, move on! If we could swing all that weight loss easily and without setbacks, hey, we wouldn't even be here and read your entry...0 -
laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.
But, it's not an actual addiction to the food itself. Maybe it's the need for a certain feeling certain food provides, or the fulfillment of some emotional need, but it's not a true blue addiction.
maybe not, but i think the word is used because they don't have a better one. not a reason for people to get offended. it's not as though it's a competition for who has it harder, a person with food issues vs an alcoholic.
Uh, oh, you're throwing in a sweeping generalization that makes no sense (see bold part). That statement is odd.
Alcoholism is a true addiction and disease, I've had family and friend die from it. Never saw anyone diet from a sugar and/or chocolate addiction, or go through withdrawals and have to go into a treatment center.
In communication, we must use the correct words for the affliction we are talking about. Addiction is not the correct one here.0 -
laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.
But, it's not an actual addiction to the food itself. Maybe it's the need for a certain feeling certain food provides, or the fulfillment of some emotional need, but it's not a true blue addiction.
maybe not, but i think the word is used because they don't have a better one. not a reason for people to get offended. it's not as though it's a competition for who has it harder, a person with food issues vs an alcoholic.
Uh, oh, you're throwing in a sweeping generalization that makes no sense (see bold part). That statement is odd.
Alcoholism is a true addiction and disease, I've had family and friend die from it. Never saw anyone diet from a sugar and/or chocolate addiction, or go through withdrawals and have to go into a treatment center.
In communication, we must use the correct words for the affliction we are talking about. Addiction is not the correct one here.
what word would you suggest replace it?0 -
laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.
But, it's not an actual addiction to the food itself. Maybe it's the need for a certain feeling certain food provides, or the fulfillment of some emotional need, but it's not a true blue addiction.
maybe not, but i think the word is used because they don't have a better one. not a reason for people to get offended. it's not as though it's a competition for who has it harder, a person with food issues vs an alcoholic.
Uh, oh, you're throwing in a sweeping generalization that makes no sense (see bold part). That statement is odd.
Alcoholism is a true addiction and disease, I've had family and friend die from it. Never saw anyone diet from a sugar and/or chocolate addiction, or go through withdrawals and have to go into a treatment center.
In communication, we must use the correct words for the affliction we are talking about. Addiction is not the correct one here.
what word would you suggest replace it?
Off the top of my head, I would say, "I have challenges in moderating XYZ foods", not "I am addicted to XYZ food or the components of said XYZ food". I agree that using the word addiction is not physiologically correct or psychologically appropriate.
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I recently began my weight loss endeavour. Today I walked into a grocery store to buy a head of lettuce. I picked the lettuce. Then walked to the till. That's when I saw it. The biggest, shiniest bar of chocolate you've ever seen. I must mention at this point that chocolate has always been my weakness. I looked at the lettuce in my hand, I thought of all the things it represented. I tried to reason with myself, and I failed. I didn't buy a chocolate bar. I bought TWO. 180g each. Went home and devoured as much of them as I could. And I feel absolutely sick. Not physically but emotionally. Why would I buy two? Why would I buy one? I feel like all my hardwork thus far has been for nothing. I feel like a failure. A loser who lacks self control. I'm not even going to log my food for today because it's a joke. I wouldn't even eat that much chocolate before. Why now? Please, to all you superstars who have won and are still winning the battle of the flab, where do you get the self control to just turn away from all the sweet and unhealthy goodies in life? How do you just not eat them? Sorry for the rant
I have desert pretty much every night...usually dark chocolate. There's nothing inherently wrong with that...I usually eat a serving and call it a day.0 -
laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.
But, it's not an actual addiction to the food itself. Maybe it's the need for a certain feeling certain food provides, or the fulfillment of some emotional need, but it's not a true blue addiction.
maybe not, but i think the word is used because they don't have a better one. not a reason for people to get offended. it's not as though it's a competition for who has it harder, a person with food issues vs an alcoholic.
Uh, oh, you're throwing in a sweeping generalization that makes no sense (see bold part). That statement is odd.
Alcoholism is a true addiction and disease, I've had family and friend die from it. Never saw anyone diet from a sugar and/or chocolate addiction, or go through withdrawals and have to go into a treatment center.
In communication, we must use the correct words for the affliction we are talking about. Addiction is not the correct one here.
what word would you suggest replace it?
A bad habit coupled with poor willpower.
I know and love people who have had legit addictions...I also know and love people who have legit binge eating disorders.
"I can't contain myself to just one cookie" is a lack of willpower. Nothing more. It's a JERK maneuver to claim 'addiction" just because you can't contain your portion control.
Talk to me when you wake up from a blackout binge covered in vomit with wrappers stuffed in your own orifices and we can talk addiction. Until then, it's just a bad habit.
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laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.
But, it's not an actual addiction to the food itself. Maybe it's the need for a certain feeling certain food provides, or the fulfillment of some emotional need, but it's not a true blue addiction.
maybe not, but i think the word is used because they don't have a better one. not a reason for people to get offended. it's not as though it's a competition for who has it harder, a person with food issues vs an alcoholic.laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.
But, it's not an actual addiction to the food itself. Maybe it's the need for a certain feeling certain food provides, or the fulfillment of some emotional need, but it's not a true blue addiction.
maybe not, but i think the word is used because they don't have a better one. not a reason for people to get offended. it's not as though it's a competition for who has it harder, a person with food issues vs an alcoholic.
Uh, oh, you're throwing in a sweeping generalization that makes no sense (see bold part). That statement is odd.
Alcoholism is a true addiction and disease, I've had family and friend die from it. Never saw anyone diet from a sugar and/or chocolate addiction, or go through withdrawals and have to go into a treatment center.
In communication, we must use the correct words for the affliction we are talking about. Addiction is not the correct one here.
what word would you suggest replace it?
Lack of self control0 -
using the word "addiction" in regards to food is just another way of putting the "blame" off onto someone or something else instead of evaluating yourself and your habits. It allows people to feel like their lack of control is not their fault, it is their "addiction" and cannot possibly be controlled by simply making different choices.0
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laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.
so equating chocolate with alcoholism is a legit comparison in your world?0 -
laurielima wrote: »Addiction is addiction.
Sure. Because, just like with heroin and alcohol, chocolate addicts resort to property crime to fuel their addictions, and disappear for days or weeks at a time due to their binges.
Get serious...
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laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.
so equating chocolate with alcoholism is a legit comparison in your world?
I don't have anything close to an addiction to either, so no idea. It doesn't bother me though when people say it.0 -
laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.
so equating chocolate with alcoholism is a legit comparison in your world?
I don't have anything close to an addiction to either, so no idea. It doesn't bother me though when people say it.
well since there is no such thing as a chocolate addiction that would be why you don't "have it"…
when someone ruins their life over chocolate then maybe we can talk ..
for now I suggest staying off the forums with the nonsensical claims you continuously make...0 -
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laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.
But, it's not an actual addiction to the food itself. Maybe it's the need for a certain feeling certain food provides, or the fulfillment of some emotional need, but it's not a true blue addiction.
maybe not, but i think the word is used because they don't have a better one. not a reason for people to get offended. it's not as though it's a competition for who has it harder, a person with food issues vs an alcoholic.
Uh, oh, you're throwing in a sweeping generalization that makes no sense (see bold part). That statement is odd.
Alcoholism is a true addiction and disease, I've had family and friend die from it. Never saw anyone diet from a sugar and/or chocolate addiction, or go through withdrawals and have to go into a treatment center.
In communication, we must use the correct words for the affliction we are talking about. Addiction is not the correct one here.
what word would you suggest replace it?
Off the top of my head, I would say, "I have challenges in moderating XYZ foods", not "I am addicted to XYZ food or the components of said XYZ food". I agree that using the word addiction is not physiologically correct or psychologically appropriate.
Yes.0 -
But, it seems to bother you when people say sugar/chocolate addiction does not exist and is in no way comparable to alcohol addiction. With all due respect, it's almost like you are arguing for the sake of arguing.laurielima wrote: »"For some people, it would almost be comparable to telling an alcoholic it's all right to have one drink"
My gosh keep it in your pants its an analogy that makes sense to people WHO CANNOT EAT ANY CHOCOLATE...BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR ADDICTION.
Addiction is addiction.
yep, not sure why people have such a problem with this analogy. seems fine to me.
i don't have a food addiction and can easily moderate, but i feel for people who struggle with it.
so equating chocolate with alcoholism is a legit comparison in your world?
I don't have anything close to an addiction to either, so no idea. It doesn't bother me though when people say it.
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If you take a peek into my food log, you'll note a crazy spike in mid February, close to when I started logging on MFP. That was the day my willpower took a hike, and I ate an entire bag of cheese flavored popcorn. Worse yet, it wasn't even for supper, it was AFTER supper, so it was on top of all the healthy foods.
Did I mean to eat an entire bag? At the time, certainly. I didn't feel guilty for it when I was done either. Sick to my stomach yes, but not guilty. I logged it, bemoaned poor choices while not sleeping due to a belly ache, and moved on. I continue to lose weight, and have had cheese flavored popcorn since then as well, I'm just a bit more careful on portion control now.
Call the chocolate a lesson in planning, make room for small indulgences in your food schedule, and move on. 0 -
I think the most important thing to realize is that food (for almost everyone) is not just a source of fuel. It's a source of celebration, enjoyment, and love as well, so enjoy your chocolate in moderation. Sure you might have overdone it this time by eating two bars, but you can't take that back so there's no reason to feel guilty about it. You can easily make it up and reach your goals by cutting down on calories over the next several days.
I often feel like so many people have a sense of good and evil, good and bad, and right and wrong when it comes to food, when food isn't inherently a moral issue. Nobody is ever one bite away from death. Enjoy your food and love your food!0 -
next time buy the chocolate bar, plan it into your daily calories budget, log and eat in moderation.0
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