it is probably not "muscle"
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Going to lay this one out there, because lately it seems like I am seeing this one a lot and it makes my head hurt.
It usually goes a little something like this…
OP comes into thread and says they are not losing and are on a 1200 calorie diet and are doing 30 minutes a day of "exercise", which does not involve a lifting program where one progressively lifts heavier weights.
Posters come into the thread and say "oh, you are just gaining muscle"
Sigh, I am sorry but a 1200 calories diet and doing a 30 minute a day cardio based program that MAY have some resistance training built into it, you are not gaining muscle.
Can you build muscle in a calorie deficit? Yes, you can but it is usually limited to two populations…
1. The obese beginner that starts out and is doing weight training where they lift progressively heavier things.
2. High performance athletes.
For the 90% of the rest of us we are not going to build muscle in a deficit.
Building muscle is hard work, and the fact that some think that it will just magically appear on a 1200 to 1400 calorie diet drives me crazy.
It's likely water gain for a new workout regime.
Also, if I may...I love your hair. Is that your natural color?0 -
Going to lay this one out there, because lately it seems like I am seeing this one a lot and it makes my head hurt.
It usually goes a little something like this…
OP comes into thread and says they are not losing and are on a 1200 calorie diet and are doing 30 minutes a day of "exercise", which does not involve a lifting program where one progressively lifts heavier weights.
Posters come into the thread and say "oh, you are just gaining muscle"
Sigh, I am sorry but a 1200 calories diet and doing a 30 minute a day cardio based program that MAY have some resistance training built into it, you are not gaining muscle.
Can you build muscle in a calorie deficit? Yes, you can but it is usually limited to two populations…
1. The obese beginner that starts out and is doing weight training where they lift progressively heavier things.
2. High performance athletes.
For the 90% of the rest of us we are not going to build muscle in a deficit.
Building muscle is hard work, and the fact that some think that it will just magically appear on a 1200 to 1400 calorie diet drives me crazy.
It's likely water gain for a new workout regime.
Also, if I may...I love your hair. Is that your natural color?
Lol
Yes,but it only comes out once a year for st pattys day run...weird, I know, my dr can't figure it out0 -
I didnt know this person personally and she doesnt live anywhere near me, but being female myself i dont want to see or inspect any other womans glutes lolCharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »some woman argued with me one day when she said she was doing the brazilian buttlift and was gaining new muscles in her glutes that werent there before(eating at a deficit) and she knows it was new muscle because she could tell by how it felt. oy vey
That is when you request in person inspection
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I'm sure it doesn't help that this is on the check-in page where you enter your weight and measurements:Taking your measurements can be an even better gauge of your progress because when you burn fat and build heavier muscle, your weight may not change or even increase even though your body is tighter and smaller.0
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I also love the muscle weighs more than fat so you must be putting on a decent amount of muscle if you are gaining weight spiel(all the while the person has been in a deficit for awhile)
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »some woman argued with me one day when she said she was doing the brazilian buttlift and was gaining new muscles in her glutes that werent there before(eating at a deficit) and she knows it was new muscle because she could tell by how it felt. oy vey
Lol. The pump comes on strong when you start targeting glutes. I started Strong Curves in a cut and noticed it. Plus it tends to stick around between workouts because you mindlessly start flexing your glutes more.
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LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »I'm sure it doesn't help that this is on the check-in page where you enter your weight and measurements:Taking your measurements can be an even better gauge of your progress because when you burn fat and build heavier muscle, your weight may not change or even increase even though your body is tighter and smaller.
Really mfp???? Wow!0 -
This common sense thread is getting saved to my bookmarks so I can retreat to it when I'm overwhelmed by all the bro-science and BS (same thing I guess) on here.0
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »some woman argued with me one day when she said she was doing the brazilian buttlift and was gaining new muscles in her glutes that werent there before(eating at a deficit) and she knows it was new muscle because she could tell by how it felt. oy vey
Lol. The pump comes on strong when you start targeting glutes. I started Strong Curves in a cut and noticed it. Plus it tends to stick around between workouts because you mindlessly start flexing your glutes more.
In...for glute flexing0 -
Actually, if you want to play the probability game, they probably are in your category #1 and sedentary and obese, and probably are building a little bit of muscle, because even 30 mins of exercise is significant for a previously sedentary obese person. They are also probably not weighing their food and are probably not really on 1200 calories, but more like 1600-2200 calories. But, all in all, they are actually in a good space, a sedentary new exerciser building a small amount of muscle and not gaining weight, maybe just encourage them to start lifting and weigh their food?0
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scottacular wrote: »This common sense thread is getting saved to my bookmarks so I can retreat to it when I'm overwhelmed by all the bro-science and BS (same thing I guess) on here.
Lol Cosigned0 -
SoLongAndThanksForAllTheFish wrote: »Actually, if you want to play the probability game, they probably are in your category #1 and sedentary and obese, and probably are building a little bit of muscle, because even 30 mins of exercise is significant for a previously sedentary obese person. They are also probably not weighing their food and are probably not really on 1200 calories, but more like 1600-2200 calories. But, all in all, they are actually in a good space, a sedentary new exerciser building a small amount of muscle and not gaining weight, maybe just encourage them to start lifting and weigh their food?
Yes, standard response is to get a food scale, log everything , and get on structured lifting program...
I just don't see anyone adding any muscle on cardio only program, as some seem be on...0 -
Going to lay this one out there, because lately it seems like I am seeing this one a lot and it makes my head hurt.
It usually goes a little something like this…
OP comes into thread and says they are not losing and are on a 1200 calorie diet and are doing 30 minutes a day of "exercise", which does not involve a lifting program where one progressively lifts heavier weights.
Posters come into the thread and say "oh, you are just gaining muscle"
Sigh, I am sorry but a 1200 calories diet and doing a 30 minute a day cardio based program that MAY have some resistance training built into it, you are not gaining muscle.
Can you build muscle in a calorie deficit? Yes, you can but it is usually limited to two populations…
1. The obese beginner that starts out and is doing weight training where they lift progressively heavier things.
2. High performance athletes.
For the 90% of the rest of us we are not going to build muscle in a deficit.
Building muscle is hard work, and the fact that some think that it will just magically appear on a 1200 to 1400 calorie diet drives me crazy.
Oh you and your pesky science
But what about this? I bought some bread yesterday that is called 'fitness bread'*. Eating that is going to instantly make me buff, right???*
(*ingredients sounded yum)0 -
please now address the concept of "toning" as in I only want to "tone"0
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I get what you are saying but she was trying to say she was growing new muscle that was not there before .not building them up or burning fat but growing brand new muscle she didnt have before.she was like I know what muscle I had there before and this is new it wasnt there before.CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »some woman argued with me one day when she said she was doing the brazilian buttlift and was gaining new muscles in her glutes that werent there before(eating at a deficit) and she knows it was new muscle because she could tell by how it felt. oy vey
Lol. The pump comes on strong when you start targeting glutes. I started Strong Curves in a cut and noticed it. Plus it tends to stick around between workouts because you mindlessly start flexing your glutes more.0 -
I love this. I get upset when I see so many posters respond this way, especially if someone with experience doesn't catch it and chime in. I just don't want people who are trying to lose weight to assume "it's muscle", because you SHOULD see the scale move-even if you've added exercise and are retaining water, it should be moving down. And if it's not, then something in your diet needs to be fixed.0
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
I get what you are saying but she was trying to say she was growing new muscle that was not there before .not building them up or burning fat but growing brand new muscle she didnt have before.she was like I know what muscle I had there before and this is new it wasnt there before.CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »some woman argued with me one day when she said she was doing the brazilian buttlift and was gaining new muscles in her glutes that werent there before(eating at a deficit) and she knows it was new muscle because she could tell by how it felt. oy vey
Lol. The pump comes on strong when you start targeting glutes. I started Strong Curves in a cut and noticed it. Plus it tends to stick around between workouts because you mindlessly start flexing your glutes more.
I understood what you were saying just fine. Muscle pump = increased bloodflow to muscles, not increased muscle tissue. A lot of people (esp. newbs) confuse the two.
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why would the scale go down if retaining water? it will go up. water retention and weight going up on the scale does not always mean something in your diet needs fixed. your weight can fluctuate(that time of the month,aggressive exercise,weight training,etc) and you retain up to 10lbs of water so its going to reflect on the scale.just because you gain weight doesnt mean its fat.my weight fluctuates day to day sometimes up to 5lbs difference I know its just a fluctuation/water weight or due to inflammation having RA.also for beginners it may take a month or more just to lose weight(or see it on the scale) I lost the inches before I saw a difference on the scale.0
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You're a damn bully.
You're cramming your beliefs down peoples throats!!!
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