Ever eat an enormous number of cals at a restaurant without realizing? (aka the 1000 cal dessert)
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tincanonastring wrote: »the mistake is in assuming that a hot fudge brownie Sunday would be UNDER 1000 calories...
Well, brownie + 1 scoop vanilla ice cream + whipped cream doesn’t *have* to equal 1000+ cals. The issue was serving size, I think. I should have eaten half of half. The brownie part was bigger than a deck of cards, which I think is too big.
We live and learn I guess.
Also, cheesecake sounds yum.
so you thought it was too big, but then under assumed the calories?
Don't be a dick, man. She tried to compensate for not knowing the calories by eating half. She's admitting she made the mistake of underestimating the calories. Why badger her about it? What are you hoping to get out of your line of questioning?
I'm all for slamming people who blame their lack of goal achievement on everything but their own inaccurate logging, but that's not what's going on here.
Ditto. It's never that serious neither is it the end of the world. You don't need to be such a sour sport0 -
Another reason I'm glad that at least chain restaurants (for now) will soon be required to post nutritional information such as calorie counts.
Yes, there will be a margin of error, but it will help.0 -
All the time almost every chain restaurant.
I was shocked beyond for
Red Robbin and Cheesecake Factory menu.0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »the mistake is in assuming that a hot fudge brownie Sunday would be UNDER 1000 calories...
Well, brownie + 1 scoop vanilla ice cream + whipped cream doesn’t *have* to equal 1000+ cals. The issue was serving size, I think. I should have eaten half of half. The brownie part was bigger than a deck of cards, which I think is too big.
We live and learn I guess.
Also, cheesecake sounds yum.
so you thought it was too big, but then under assumed the calories?
Don't be a dick, man. She tried to compensate for not knowing the calories by eating half. She's admitting she made the mistake of underestimating the calories. Why badger her about it? What are you hoping to get out of your line of questioning?
I'm all for slamming people who blame their lack of goal achievement on everything but their own inaccurate logging, but that's not what's going on here.
I agree with you. No need to bash.0 -
aquamarina_182 wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »the mistake is in assuming that a hot fudge brownie Sunday would be UNDER 1000 calories...
Well, brownie + 1 scoop vanilla ice cream + whipped cream doesn’t *have* to equal 1000+ cals. The issue was serving size, I think. I should have eaten half of half. The brownie part was bigger than a deck of cards, which I think is too big.
We live and learn I guess.
Also, cheesecake sounds yum.
so you thought it was too big, but then under assumed the calories?
Don't be a dick, man. She tried to compensate for not knowing the calories by eating half. She's admitting she made the mistake of underestimating the calories. Why badger her about it? What are you hoping to get out of your line of questioning?
I'm all for slamming people who blame their lack of goal achievement on everything but their own inaccurate logging, but that's not what's going on here.
I agree with you. No need to bash.
+1
This is a learning process, and not everyone is at the same point in the process.
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1000 for a dessert is crazy, but if you have it a couple of times a year, it doesn't really matter. But it is shocking, and it's also why restaurant should list all nutritional information on their menu. But unfortunately I never see it in Canada (except at Subway maybe). I would definitely not order something that has 800-1000 calories.
I was surprised when I started counting calories to see some meals being 1000+ calories. And most of them aren't even 'worth it'
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Nope, I'm usually fully aware that I'm eating a ridiculous number of calories when I eat out. Just nature of the beast. If you fail to plan, you plan to fail. Many restaurants have menus with caloric values that you can research before going out. If you wait until you are done, plan to be amazed at the caloric value of what you ate.0
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Unless you are ordering off of a low calorie menu, most anything you get at a restaurant is going to be around 1,000 calories plus. Servings sizes of pretty much anything and pretty much any restaurant are huge...generally speaking a restaurant portion is anywhere from 2 - 3x what a "normal", recommended portion would be. People want "value" for their $$...so portions are huge. Add to that, the amount of oil restaurants use to cook with...pretty much calorie bomb.
I truly believe that one of the reasons for the significant rise in obesity rates is due to a significant shift in dining out trends. Maybe it's just me...but when I was younger, going out to eat was basically an event...it was special. I don't think there was much need to worry about the calories and whatnot because it was a special occasion...most cooking and eating was done at home. Now, I know people who eat out pretty much all of the time...I have one friend who eats out pretty much 2x per day every day and he isn't paying attention to calories for sure...and he looks the part.
My first go around with losing weight, I pretty much determined that eating out needed to be relegated to occasions. We didn't eat out as much as many people we know, but we did eat out 2-3 times per week...it was something we included in our food budget. Now we eat out maybe 1-3 times per month and we have those funds budgeted in the entertainment budget. For me, it made weight loss and then weight maintenance much easier...given that is a relatively rare event, I don't worry about it too much when I go out...but when we're on vacation and whatnot I really have to practice portion control and make efforts to make better decisions given how much we would dine out on vacation.0 -
You guys are pals. It’s no big deal, but I appreciate it a lot.
Anyway, I’m completely fine with making mistakes, and I posted this because I figured it’s worth discussing and recalling that it’s always a good idea to be careful with eating out. It can be done, but prior research really helps.0 -
Some restaurant meals can be planned out to be perfectly fine. The white meat quarter chicken at Swiss Chalet, for instance, is 240 cals and 44g protein. It’s the trimmings that get you.
Very true!! I ordered it in for delivery the other day as I didn't feel like cooking. Yeah. Needles to say I went over my calorie goal, but their fries are so good!!!
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »aquamarina_182 wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »the mistake is in assuming that a hot fudge brownie Sunday would be UNDER 1000 calories...
Well, brownie + 1 scoop vanilla ice cream + whipped cream doesn’t *have* to equal 1000+ cals. The issue was serving size, I think. I should have eaten half of half. The brownie part was bigger than a deck of cards, which I think is too big.
We live and learn I guess.
Also, cheesecake sounds yum.
so you thought it was too big, but then under assumed the calories?
Don't be a dick, man. She tried to compensate for not knowing the calories by eating half. She's admitting she made the mistake of underestimating the calories. Why badger her about it? What are you hoping to get out of your line of questioning?
I'm all for slamming people who blame their lack of goal achievement on everything but their own inaccurate logging, but that's not what's going on here.
I agree with you. No need to bash.
+1
This is a learning process, and not everyone is at the same point in the process.
+ 1
Heck. I'm at it since 2012 and I'm still learning. I think as out goals change so do our process.
There is always something new to learn.
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I actually usually pre-log if I can find their nutirtional information online. Otherwise I just order what looks good and usually over estimate!
And now I want a brownie covered in cheesecake bits!0 -
When I first started logging it hit me in the face how many calories I was consuming. Both at home and at restaurants. I made the conscious decision that when eating out, I would only eat half of what I order, and take the other half home. Always sub veggies for fries, ask for salad dressings on the side and don't order dessert. Of course everyone one has special occasions, and I don't limit myself if I am craving something, I just make it work.
You live, you learn. Chalk it up for experience and use it towards next time.
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I know Cheesecake Factory is infamous for portion sizes and calorie counts, but I ordered the Teriyaki chicken one time, thinking it would be fairly safe. It wasn't huge. It was a piece of chicken and some rice.
1400 calories.
Agreed.
I ate there for the first time in several years last weekend. Ordered a steak thinking, steak is steak, and I know my steak cals. Nope. 1000 calories later...0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Anything you eat all of at P.F. Changs.
Full order of dumplings and spring rolls comes in around 500 cal ....0 -
It was SUCH an event in my house growing up! We'd talk about it all week and still talk about it after haha!cwolfman13 wrote: »Maybe it's just me...but when I was younger, going out to eat was basically an event...it was special.
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tincanonastring wrote: »the mistake is in assuming that a hot fudge brownie Sunday would be UNDER 1000 calories...
Well, brownie + 1 scoop vanilla ice cream + whipped cream doesn’t *have* to equal 1000+ cals. The issue was serving size, I think. I should have eaten half of half. The brownie part was bigger than a deck of cards, which I think is too big.
We live and learn I guess.
Also, cheesecake sounds yum.
so you thought it was too big, but then under assumed the calories?
Don't be a dick, man. She tried to compensate for not knowing the calories by eating half. She's admitting she made the mistake of underestimating the calories. Why badger her about it? What are you hoping to get out of your line of questioning?
I'm all for slamming people who blame their lack of goal achievement on everything but their own inaccurate logging, but that's not what's going on here.
Hear, hear, well said!
Obviously if we were all so perfect and knowledgable we wouldn't be here right?
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You guys are pals. It’s no big deal, but I appreciate it a lot.
Anyway, I’m completely fine with making mistakes, and I posted this because I figured it’s worth discussing and recalling that it’s always a good idea to be careful with eating out. It can be done, but prior research really helps.
Worthwhile point is worthwhile. I"ve been logging for almost 3 years now and I still blew through my calories last weekend when I went to Applebees because I didn't check the calories before I ordered. I should have known better, but I had a huge calore allowance and didn't think I had a prayer of hitting it...0 -
I learned my lesson with salads. Once at Longhorn and the other at O'Charleys. I have discovered that most restaurant salads are deceptive and aren't anywhere near as healthy as you think. Even for the half portion it was almost 1000 calories. A freakin salad.
Combined with the rolls it was no wonder I wasn't losing any weight.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Maybe it's just me...but when I was younger, going out to eat was basically an event...it was special.
5 times in a year
1) Parent's anniversary
2) Dad's birthday
3) Mom's birthday
4) My birthday
5) Sister's birthday
That's about it. 5 times in a year.
Same went about for buying new clothes. Birthday, summertime, beginning of school year and during festival.
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