"Cheese is not meant for human consumption"

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  • miriamtob
    miriamtob Posts: 436 Member
    Cheese is hands down the best snack for dental health. That is what my dentist told me. It doesn't lower the ph of your mouth, leading to an acidic environment that causes tooth decay. It's actually good for your teeth. Cheese for the win!
  • katarina005
    katarina005 Posts: 259 Member
    I can only imagine that your friend is against dairy because of the whole "humans are the only mammals who continue to consume milk after they are they weaned" philosophy. that we don't need it, which is probably true..milk is bad for your bones and all that mumbo jumbo. cheese is good. personally I wouldn't read too much into what your friend says, except to say that dairy when enjoyed too much can be really fattening. I try not to hardly eat any cheese now, but I drink skim milk.
  • KnM0107
    KnM0107 Posts: 355 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    the only cheese not meant for human consumption is Kraft singles.


    Does that really count as cheese?

    No
  • kristydi
    kristydi Posts: 781 Member
    The only reason cheese exists is to be eaten by humans. Literally the whole purpose of cheese is human consumption. And thank God for it because cheese is awesome.

    Whether humans should eat dairy is a whole other argument. For me, you can pry the cheese and ice cream out of my cold dead hands.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    Someone just said this to me. I love hard cheese. But I also love a lot of things this person doesn't, as they avoid entire food groups including dairy. I also love research/studies. So... discuss.

    Why is cheese meant or not meant for human consumption?
    What studies are available that I can review on this topic?

    Thanks. :)
    Physiologically, we don't need to consume dairy. Calcium and other nutrients from dairy can easily be attained from other sources of food and drink.

    That said, I'll be damned if I give up ice cream, yogurt and cheese.

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  • Dairy isn't necessarily meant for human consumption, however, cheese is made for that exact reason. Dairy milk, is made to nurse calf (any milk, that is). It is the same thing with human breast milk-it's made for babies. Cheese is taking that milk and combining it with an acid or enzyme. It is the casein that combines with the acid or enzyme leaving whey as a byproduct. So, it is a man-made process, and that means that is is made for man.
    I think I know what s/he means though. There have been studies that show that dairy products could increase the chances of one's developing prostate and ovarian cancers. Also, it is said that is could prevent absorption of Iron, and isn't really aiding calcium absorption, quite the opposite. However, these studies haven't been validated (I think). Anyway, most dietitians recommended consuming low-fat or no-fat dairy products.
  • nicsflyingcircus
    nicsflyingcircus Posts: 2,858 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Someone just said this to me. I love hard cheese. But I also love a lot of things this person doesn't, as they avoid entire food groups including dairy. I also love research/studies. So... discuss.

    Why is cheese meant or not meant for human consumption?
    What studies are available that I can review on this topic?

    Thanks. :)
    Physiologically, we don't need to consume dairy. Calcium and other nutrients from dairy can easily be attained from other sources of food and drink.

    That said, I'll be damned if I give up ice cream, yogurt and cheese.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    This.

    I love dairy. Today I have had butter, sour cream, cheese (twice), heavy whipping cream and half-n-half.

    Cows, I love their flesh and the products of their udders.
  • jddnw
    jddnw Posts: 319 Member
    Seems like a lot hinges on the meaning and context of the word "meant." Meant by who or what? Mother nature? Mr. Diety? Farmer John? Is an apple "meant" for human consumption, or is it just an apple trees way of spreading it's seed?
  • Derpes
    Derpes Posts: 2,033 Member
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  • Someone just said this to me. I love hard cheese. But I also love a lot of things this person doesn't, as they avoid entire food groups including dairy. I also love research/studies. So... discuss.

    Why is cheese meant or not meant for human consumption?
    What studies are available that I can review on this topic?

    Thanks. :)

    Cheese is life blood, it is akin to all that is good in the world. Whoever said that must be trying to get you not to eat cheese so he can save it all for himself. It's the only logical explanation.
  • JiveDoc
    JiveDoc Posts: 284 Member
    herrspoons wrote: »
    Cheese is cheese. It's just a way of using and storing milk, so if you're lactose tolerant it's fine.
    Actually, cheese only contains very trace amounts of lactose. Most people with lactose intolerance can eat cheese without any problems.

  • ldhudsonjr
    ldhudsonjr Posts: 31 Member
    Forks over Knives is basically propaganda and The China Study has been widely discredited.

    https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-china-study-revisited/
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Forks_Over_Knives

    Good reads
  • paradi3s
    paradi3s Posts: 343 Member
    If that's the case, I am not human! The eggplant wraps U had last night was ridden with the delicious stuff. I loooooove cheese. I guess that "someone" has had bad experiences with it haha
  • levitateme
    levitateme Posts: 999 Member
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  • Marianne802
    Marianne802 Posts: 91 Member
    I suppose if you look at it this way - We are the only species on earth that continue to have milk/dairy after we are weened.

    Do we need it? Probably not.
    Do we want it? Hell yeh!!
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,222 Member
    Never seen cows eat cheese, but I'm sure there's a gif.
  • Well, maybe certain people. I'm nursing and had to stop eating dairy because my colic baby was sensitive to dairy. I have had hormonal cystic acne for almost 20 years but since I haven't had any dairy it's completely gone. My guess is because I'm not taking in the extra hormones that's milk (I drank a lot of it). So maybe people with hormonal issues should try avoiding dairy.
    But if you're willing to eat the cow I don't see what the big protest is with its milk.
    I still crave cheese. Every. Single. Day. Everything that's good about American food has cheese in it. It's the first thing I'm going to eat once the colic goes away. But I'll probably continue to not drink milk and only eat dairy very occasionally because I like my clear skin better than dairy
  • evileen99
    evileen99 Posts: 1,564 Member
    I suppose if you look at it this way - We are the only species on earth that continue to have milk/dairy after we are weened.

    Do we need it? Probably not.
    Do we want it? Hell yeh!!

    Only because we are the only species that has a way to reliably procure it.

    Anecdote alert: Several years ago in Britain, customers were complaining to the dairy that the milk bottles that were delivered to them had the tops popped and the cream siphoned off. After a lengthy investigation, the dairy learned that CROWS were removing the bottle tops and drinking the cream. So even animals that were raised on dairy will consume it if the opportunity arises.

  • sgthaggard
    sgthaggard Posts: 581 Member
    Cheese: the only reason I exercise.
  • JMC3Terp
    JMC3Terp Posts: 2,803 Member
    Cheese is one of the reasons I need to lose weight. I'm not sure if its meant for human consumption as too much of it is definitely evil. But its delicious!
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    You won't find any studies on whether cheese is meant for human consumption. Humans make cheese specifically so they can consume it.
  • clipartghost
    clipartghost Posts: 32 Member
    Nothing is "meant" for human consumption or not unless you want to get into theological arguments.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    herrspoons wrote: »
    She is probably referring to the fact that cows produce milk to feed their babies, like all mammals. Not so adult humans can make the baby into veal and then suck at mama cow's teats....

    What?

    Not sure if you are being sarcastic or actually confused. Assuming the latter, let me spell it out: Cheese is made from the milk of a cow (or goat). Cows don't make milk for humans, not willingly anyway. They produce it for their babies. The dairy industry operates by taking away the baby to slaughter or other uses and taking the milk for us humans.

    Milk (and yogurt, cheese, other things we make from milk) is meant for baby cows. Not adult humans.

    Except that the vast majority of baby cows are fed by humans after a short time on the teat and are allowed to grow up to provide meat or more baby cows.

    Human babies stop eating milk from their own species in childhood, just like all mammals. Humans also have the brains to figure out how to harvest and store food in a way that feeds themselves, and also does not harm the source of the food. Cheese is nothing more than a product of this harvesting and preparing it for longer term storage. Does not harm the cow.

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  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    How can anyone not eat cheese? Ridiculous! Ludicrous! I am from Wisconsin though.

    Go Badgers!!!!

    (also a 'Sconnie and granddaughter of a diary farmer)

  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    turbosad wrote: »
    Cheese is meant to go with wine. :)

    Except Limberger and brick. Those are meant to go with a nice nutty ale.

  • MommysLittleMeatball
    MommysLittleMeatball Posts: 2,064 Member
    newmeadow wrote: »
    Aside from a very occasional slice of pizza where the smell and taste of the cheese is disguised by the pork toppings and the tomato sauce.

    MMmmm pork! However, pork needs to stay off my pizza because it's grease overpowers the lovely flavor of cheeeeeeeeeese (and makes the thin bottom soggy)! The only time pork is welcome on my pizza is when it's a nice homemade slice of fresh mozzarella pizza topped with prosciutto, arugula, drizzle of EVOO and aged balsamic.

    Cheese. Give me all of the cheese!
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    My dad has developed an allergy to dairy. :( He thinks his life is over because he can't eat cheese. He was seriously upset when the doctor told him no more cheese. Poor pops. Some families have tables topped with salt and pepper - we have parmesan.

    Kraft singles are terrifying and totally "plastic cheese", but they are the perfect grilled cheese drunken late night snack.
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  • Josalinn
    Josalinn Posts: 1,066 Member
    JPW1990 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    What else would it be meant for? Home décor?

    You could stack the wheels to make a coffee table, like in Skyrim.

    You are clearly a geek. I like you=D

    also cheese is awesome, although this statement does not help OP.
  • SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage
    SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage Posts: 2,668 Member
    OP, the person who said that to you needs a punch in the throat.
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