Thighs Hips and Butt...LADIES lifting heavy
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so youre saying to accomplish my goal...just start. start where i am..eating how i am while logging to see what i can add or take away...dont focus on gaining or losing just lift and see how my body reacts...for about 6 months? then start do the excessive stuff (counting, surplus in calories, etc)...?thanks guys. VERY true and very helpful. Since we are on the nutrition...my aim is not to lose weight, its to gain muscle. My original post talks about me wanting to lift heavy so that i can firm, lift, and get cut. I know naturally I will lose more wight but thats not the point anymore. I want to the above plus preserve my curves. This is my focus now. So with that being said...this is where my concern for eating enough comes from. I know i have to eat more now but Not sure how to tell if im eating enough for heavy lifting. Im starting next week. From what you all are saying though, Im thinking i would have to start counting...
You're going to have a difficult timing fufiflling these two bolded goals.
Honestly if you aren't lifting now- and you are a reasonable height and weight currently.
1.) start logging/weighing/tracking your foods.
2.) Figure out what maintenance is- and do that.
3.) start lifting (starting strength/strong lifts/new rules of lifting/strong curves)
4.) stick with it for at least 6 months.
5.) determine if you need to lose more- or you need gain.
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and why do you say it will be difficult?
what do you mean.... 0 -
so youre saying to accomplish my goal...just start. start where i am..eating how i am while logging to see what i can add or take away...dont focus on gaining or losing just lift and see how my body reacts...for about 6 months? then start do the excessive stuff (counting, surplus in calories, etc)...?thanks guys. VERY true and very helpful. Since we are on the nutrition...my aim is not to lose weight, its to gain muscle. My original post talks about me wanting to lift heavy so that i can firm, lift, and get cut. I know naturally I will lose more wight but thats not the point anymore. I want to the above plus preserve my curves. This is my focus now. So with that being said...this is where my concern for eating enough comes from. I know i have to eat more now but Not sure how to tell if im eating enough for heavy lifting. Im starting next week. From what you all are saying though, Im thinking i would have to start counting...
You're going to have a difficult timing fufiflling these two bolded goals.
Honestly if you aren't lifting now- and you are a reasonable height and weight currently.
1.) start logging/weighing/tracking your foods.
2.) Figure out what maintenance is- and do that.
3.) start lifting (starting strength/strong lifts/new rules of lifting/strong curves)
4.) stick with it for at least 6 months.
5.) determine if you need to lose more- or you need gain.
No. Do the steps in order. #1 start logging/weighing/tracking your food. #2 figure out how many calories you need to maintain your weight and eat that much...#5 after 6 months determine if you should eat more to gain more or eat less to lose (or eat the same to maintain.)0 -
and why do you say it will be difficult? what do you mean....
You get "cut" by losing the fat over the muscles you have (eating less than maintenance). You gain muscle by building muscle mass (eating more than maintenance). You can also work on recomposition which is a slow process but essentially does both at the same time (eat at maintenance). This is why Jo suggested eating at maintenance and lifting, this would allow you to recomp for a little bit. Then when you have a little more experience of how your body is reacting you can decide how you want to proceed from there.0 -
so youre saying to accomplish my goal...just start. start where i am..eating how i am while logging to see what i can add or take away...dont focus on gaining or losing just lift and see how my body reacts...for about 6 months? then start do the excessive stuff (counting, surplus in calories, etc)...?thanks guys. VERY true and very helpful. Since we are on the nutrition...my aim is not to lose weight, its to gain muscle. My original post talks about me wanting to lift heavy so that i can firm, lift, and get cut. I know naturally I will lose more wight but thats not the point anymore. I want to the above plus preserve my curves. This is my focus now. So with that being said...this is where my concern for eating enough comes from. I know i have to eat more now but Not sure how to tell if im eating enough for heavy lifting. Im starting next week. From what you all are saying though, Im thinking i would have to start counting...
You're going to have a difficult timing fufiflling these two bolded goals.
Honestly if you aren't lifting now- and you are a reasonable height and weight currently.
1.) start logging/weighing/tracking your foods.
2.) Figure out what maintenance is- and do that.
3.) start lifting (starting strength/strong lifts/new rules of lifting/strong curves)
4.) stick with it for at least 6 months.
5.) determine if you need to lose more- or you need gain.
No. Do the steps in order. #1 start logging/weighing/tracking your food. #2 figure out how many calories you need to maintain your weight and eat that much...#5 after 6 months determine if you should eat more to gain more or eat less to lose (or eat the same to maintain.)
She was correct in her assessment.
Start now- start where she is. no reason she cannot be lifting now while she figures out what maintenance is.
And yes- I think she should hit a solid progressive lifting program for at least 5 months before comitting to either trying to lose or gain- she's not significantly underweight enough for me to say <EAT ALL THE THINGS> <LIFT ALL THE THINGS>
if she was 18 and underweight and a guy- I'd tell her to bulk immediately. But she's not.
She'll see a lot of growth if she just eats at maintenance now and adds in lifting.0 -
so youre saying to accomplish my goal...just start. start where i am..eating how i am while logging to see what i can add or take away...dont focus on gaining or losing just lift and see how my body reacts...for about 6 months? then start do the excessive stuff (counting, surplus in calories, etc)...?thanks guys. VERY true and very helpful. Since we are on the nutrition...my aim is not to lose weight, its to gain muscle. My original post talks about me wanting to lift heavy so that i can firm, lift, and get cut. I know naturally I will lose more wight but thats not the point anymore. I want to the above plus preserve my curves. This is my focus now. So with that being said...this is where my concern for eating enough comes from. I know i have to eat more now but Not sure how to tell if im eating enough for heavy lifting. Im starting next week. From what you all are saying though, Im thinking i would have to start counting...
You're going to have a difficult timing fufiflling these two bolded goals.
Honestly if you aren't lifting now- and you are a reasonable height and weight currently.
1.) start logging/weighing/tracking your foods.
2.) Figure out what maintenance is- and do that.
3.) start lifting (starting strength/strong lifts/new rules of lifting/strong curves)
4.) stick with it for at least 6 months.
5.) determine if you need to lose more- or you need gain.
No. Do the steps in order. #1 start logging/weighing/tracking your food. #2 figure out how many calories you need to maintain your weight and eat that much...#5 after 6 months determine if you should eat more to gain more or eat less to lose (or eat the same to maintain.)
She was correct in her assessment.
Start now- start where she is. no reason she cannot be lifting now while she figures out what maintenance is.
And yes- I think she should hit a solid progressive lifting program for at least 5 months before comitting to either trying to lose or gain- she's not significantly underweight enough for me to say <EAT ALL THE THINGS> <LIFT ALL THE THINGS>
if she was 18 and underweight and a guy- I'd tell her to bulk immediately. But she's not.
She'll see a lot of growth if she just eats at maintenance now and adds in lifting.
Ack. I skipped over your #3. I was assuming the lifting was happening pre-#1.0 -
so youre saying to accomplish my goal...just start. start where i am..eating how i am while logging to see what i can add or take away...dont focus on gaining or losing just lift and see how my body reacts...for about 6 months? then start do the excessive stuff (counting, surplus in calories, etc)...?thanks guys. VERY true and very helpful. Since we are on the nutrition...my aim is not to lose weight, its to gain muscle. My original post talks about me wanting to lift heavy so that i can firm, lift, and get cut. I know naturally I will lose more wight but thats not the point anymore. I want to the above plus preserve my curves. This is my focus now. So with that being said...this is where my concern for eating enough comes from. I know i have to eat more now but Not sure how to tell if im eating enough for heavy lifting. Im starting next week. From what you all are saying though, Im thinking i would have to start counting...
You're going to have a difficult timing fufiflling these two bolded goals.
Honestly if you aren't lifting now- and you are a reasonable height and weight currently.
1.) start logging/weighing/tracking your foods.
2.) Figure out what maintenance is- and do that.
3.) start lifting (starting strength/strong lifts/new rules of lifting/strong curves)
4.) stick with it for at least 6 months.
5.) determine if you need to lose more- or you need gain.
No. Do the steps in order. #1 start logging/weighing/tracking your food. #2 figure out how many calories you need to maintain your weight and eat that much...#5 after 6 months determine if you should eat more to gain more or eat less to lose (or eat the same to maintain.)
She was correct in her assessment.
Start now- start where she is. no reason she cannot be lifting now while she figures out what maintenance is.
And yes- I think she should hit a solid progressive lifting program for at least 5 months before comitting to either trying to lose or gain- she's not significantly underweight enough for me to say <EAT ALL THE THINGS> <LIFT ALL THE THINGS>
if she was 18 and underweight and a guy- I'd tell her to bulk immediately. But she's not.
She'll see a lot of growth if she just eats at maintenance now and adds in lifting.
Ack. I skipped over your #3. I was assuming the lifting was happening pre-#1.
I, based on conversations/context clues here, have assumed no progressive lifting was happening- but ultimately- the goal will be essentially dual tracking food/lifting.
But both things should be done. One can start the tracking literally this second- and the weights tonight/tomorrow- so I tend to list that one first but yeah- dual track is probably a better expression.0 -
you guys are really breaking this down to where I can understand. Im excited ...and you are correct@jo. I havent started yet. Ive just been practicing eating enough to maintain and support my workouts (which isnt heavy lifting....just the basic beach body programs) It makes a lot of sense. Track my food and lift and see what my body does. PS could you explain re composition a little. Thats when your body looks different even though you may not have lost a pound. Your body starts to kind of fix itself in proper proportions?0
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Hi, I'm also a curvy women and much older (52) and if I had a chance to go back in time and give advice to my 29 year old self I would have started to lift heavy in my 20s. If it is your natural body type to be an hourglass than lifting will not take that a way unless your body fat percentage gets really low (not something that happens by accident!). If you aren't curvy you can create some major curves via squatting, glute thrust etc. I used to think my body type meant that I was just not meant to be strong and athletic. However, you don't need to be "squishy" - keeping those curves "high and proud" is important (think, lots of push-ups, bench pressing, squats, deadlifts etc.). I agree with your avatar "Curvy is Beautiful" however, curvy, strong and able to kickass is the bomb! You are about my height and at 150 I find that is the perfect weight for a balance of curves, having muscle definition and keeping the waist slim (need to loss 20 myself). I would concentrate on lifting heavy and after a few months you may like the results or decide to loss about 10-15 lbs for a leaner look. Many people don't realize how much better 150 looks after lifting for awhile vs. 150 of squishiness.0
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you guys are really breaking this down to where I can understand. Im excited ...and you are correct@jo. I havent started yet. Ive just been practicing eating enough to maintain and support my workouts (which isnt heavy lifting....just the basic beach body programs) It makes a lot of sense. Track my food and lift and see what my body does. PS could you explain re composition a little. Thats when your body looks different even though you may not have lost a pound. Your body starts to kind of fix itself in proper proportions?
A body recomp is slow process of when your body composition changes and yes you say the same weight.
Basically this process is accomplish by eating at maintenance calories+ progressive strength training.
This change is a so body fat% drop with max maintain of muscle.0 -
wooohooo!!!Lookingformyself wrote: »Lifting and still way curvy. It can be done. Go without fear!
:):) Im so glad you showed me that!! you're right. it can be done! I thank you. And keep up the excellent work
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Hi, I'm also a curvy women and much older (52) and if I had a chance to go back in time and give advice to my 29 year old self I would have started to lift heavy in my 20s. If it is your natural body type to be an hourglass than lifting will not take that a way unless your body fat percentage gets really low (not something that happens by accident!). If you aren't curvy you can create some major curves via squatting, glute thrust etc. I used to think my body type meant that I was just not meant to be strong and athletic. However, you don't need to be "squishy" - keeping those curves "high and proud" is important (think, lots of push-ups, bench pressing, squats, deadlifts etc.). I agree with your avatar "Curvy is Beautiful" however, curvy, strong and able to kickass is the bomb! You are about my height and at 150 I find that is the perfect weight for a balance of curves, having muscle definition and keeping the waist slim (need to loss 20 myself). I would concentrate on lifting heavy and after a few months you may like the results or decide to loss about 10-15 lbs for a leaner look. Many people don't realize how much better 150 looks after lifting for awhile vs. 150 of squishiness.
oh!! that post is pure yumminess!! its giving me life!! I am so encouraged. Thank you. It was so simply put and I am not as fearful of losing my POW WOW0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »you guys are really breaking this down to where I can understand. Im excited ...and you are correct@jo. I havent started yet. Ive just been practicing eating enough to maintain and support my workouts (which isnt heavy lifting....just the basic beach body programs) It makes a lot of sense. Track my food and lift and see what my body does. PS could you explain re composition a little. Thats when your body looks different even though you may not have lost a pound. Your body starts to kind of fix itself in proper proportions?
A body recomp is slow process of when your body composition changes and yes you say the same weight.
Basically this process is accomplish by eating at maintenance calories+ progressive strength training.
This change is a so body fat% drop with max maintain of muscle.
Sounds good for my start:):) I like the idea of that. Im realizing through all your post that most importantly I need to take it one day at a time. Can body recomposition happen while heavy lifting or would i have to lift less to accomplish this?
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I have 41" hips and a 28" thighs.
I've been slacking on lifting lately but this is from last summer:
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The way you are shaped has more to do with your genetics than any sort of diet or type of exercize. You can't get booties like those women in the pictures unless you are born that way or you had plastic surgery butt implants.0
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yopeeps025 wrote: »you guys are really breaking this down to where I can understand. Im excited ...and you are correct@jo. I havent started yet. Ive just been practicing eating enough to maintain and support my workouts (which isnt heavy lifting....just the basic beach body programs) It makes a lot of sense. Track my food and lift and see what my body does. PS could you explain re composition a little. Thats when your body looks different even though you may not have lost a pound. Your body starts to kind of fix itself in proper proportions?
A body recomp is slow process of when your body composition changes and yes you say the same weight.
Basically this process is accomplish by eating at maintenance calories+ progressive strength training.
This change is a so body fat% drop with max maintain of muscle.
Sounds good for my start:):) I like the idea of that. Im realizing through all your post that most importantly I need to take it one day at a time. Can body recomposition happen while heavy lifting or would i have to lift less to accomplish this?
never lift less.
unless your injured.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »you guys are really breaking this down to where I can understand. Im excited ...and you are correct@jo. I havent started yet. Ive just been practicing eating enough to maintain and support my workouts (which isnt heavy lifting....just the basic beach body programs) It makes a lot of sense. Track my food and lift and see what my body does. PS could you explain re composition a little. Thats when your body looks different even though you may not have lost a pound. Your body starts to kind of fix itself in proper proportions?
A body recomp is slow process of when your body composition changes and yes you say the same weight.
Basically this process is accomplish by eating at maintenance calories+ progressive strength training.
This change is a so body fat% drop with max maintain of muscle.
Sounds good for my start:):) I like the idea of that. Im realizing through all your post that most importantly I need to take it one day at a time. Can body recomposition happen while heavy lifting or would i have to lift less to accomplish this?
never lift less.
unless your injured.
yes sir:)! I thank you so much
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KombuchaCat wrote: »The way you are shaped has more to do with your genetics than any sort of diet or type of exercize. You can't get booties like those women in the pictures unless you are born that way or you had plastic surgery butt implants. I'll keep that in mind 0
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BusyRaeNOTBusty wrote: »I have 41" hips and a 28" thighs.
I've been slacking on lifting lately but this is from last summer:
very nice! how long have you been lifting? you have any before pics?
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hey guys! Whats the expectation?...Like...how long does it take to see some change at my height and weight (5'6" 150lbs)0
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I have been following this post and this my first post..
I think I need to ask you, what is your expectation and the end goal? You need a starting point and end point (of course the journey can change how you get there along the way)..
JoRocka is right. Start lifting now. Get your diet right and you will start noticing gains really soon (within weeks)...
I was a newbie lifter and I started seeing gains right away..0 -
SQUAT! SQUAT! SQUAT! As long as you are lifting for the areas you desire you will keep your curves and they will be super nice. I dont have the pleasure of being as tall as you but I am on the thicker side of the spectrum and currently working on losing 15-20 lbs. I know you are already down to the weight you want to be but as long as you DONT SKIP LEG DAY. Your body will be banging. When you naturally have curves I think its a lot easier to get them nice and tight without losing them. As long as you dont forget about leg day ( I personally incorporate legs as much as possible) you will be fine. Also protein! make sureyou are getting all the protein you need so that you can gain that muscle0
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Just food for thought. If you lift heavy to develop your musculature, I'm not so sure you can then stop lifting heavy and maintain those muscles with body weight exercises. I'm pretty sure you have to level out by continuing to lift heavy, just with little or no progression. Otherwise you'll lose your booty.0
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BusyRaeNOTBusty wrote: »I have 41" hips and a 28" thighs.
I've been slacking on lifting lately but this is from last summer:
very nice! how long have you been lifting? you have any before pics?
Here:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/BusyRaeNOTBusty/view/new-progress-pictures-for-2015-723651
My best results came when I did a bulk for 5 months in 2011.0 -
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hey guys! Whats the expectation?...Like...how long does it take to see some change at my height and weight (5'6" 150lbs)
you'll start to feel better within the first month- like things are working- and you'll start to notice a change in the first few months- will probably take 5-8 for other people to notice.0 -
thanks guys. Im looking forward to the slow process. Im ok with me being the only one to notice as long as I notice! lol. I see myself nude and so will my future husband. Thats the part that counts to me lol.
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pascalealana wrote: »SQUAT! SQUAT! SQUAT! As long as you are lifting for the areas you desire you will keep your curves and they will be super nice. I dont have the pleasure of being as tall as you but I am on the thicker side of the spectrum and currently working on losing 15-20 lbs. I know you are already down to the weight you want to be but as long as you DONT SKIP LEG DAY. Your body will be banging. When you naturally have curves I think its a lot easier to get them nice and tight without losing them. As long as you dont forget about leg day ( I personally incorporate legs as much as possible) you will be fine. Also protein! make sureyou are getting all the protein you need so that you can gain that muscle
ok I will definitely keep that in mind. My legs are the ones that lack the most form and have the most fat so i do hope youre right. It seems impossible to tighten these things up.0
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