the military diet
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Military diet is just the popular name for it right now, it's also been called the three day diet. It has nothing to do with wanting to be in the military! ! ! =P0
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gypsychic33 wrote: »Actually they have substitutes for foods if you don't like them/can't eat them or what not. I will be substituting for cottage cheese, because I absolutely can't stand the taste or texture,I just simply cannot eat it.
I've decided to try it! I'm going to do it M,T,W and then eat healthy the rest of the week. I'm going to do it for 3 weeks and see where I'm at.
My overall plan it to eat healthier, so I'm not freaking out over losing with this and then gaining it back from eating the way I have been. Thanks for all the help so far!
I shoulda kept my big mouth shut...
Just remember, CICO. It's proven (not a fad, it's what far smarter people than me with fancy degrees have researched and proven true) so even on your three cheat days make sure you average under for the week. How you eat and what you eat matters farrrrrrrrr less than how much you eat and if this isn't a permanent lifestyle change to a lower calorie system you will gain it back (and likely more). I've done fad diets, hell I bet most of us looking to lose weight have and it always comes back to CICO.
But sometimes we have to learn the hard way so I wish you best of luck.
Then again, what this sounds like is nothing terribly different than what I do. M-F I eat ~1500 calories, Saturday (because I'm on the road and fast food is an option or because I hit the bar) ~2800 calories, Sunday ~2100 calories. After exercise I usually end up about 1000cal under my goal or so (which is a daily -1000calories). This is how I plan to eat for basically ever so I will level out and hit a maintenance level when I hit around 170lbs (on this diet).
Good luck, keep on truckin' and log. Once it becomes routine it's easy to watch your weekly avg intake so that you know how much cheat you can have on your "cheat days".0 -
I honestly believe that someone a couple decades ago decided to make up the stupidest diet they could and see how many people they could sucker with it, and even THEY open their Pintrest page today and can't believe this idiotic "diet" is still getting cred.0
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I don't really consider the other four days cheat days,I don't think that way of thinking would be successful at all.0
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You're determined to do this fad diet, and that's what it is. It's just a means of restricting calories for a few days.
You're missing the larger point... what happens to you once the weight is off?
What has eating this way taught you to KEEP the weight off?
Not a whole lot, that's what.0 -
I just don't understand the point of stuff like this. But other than the veggies and the cottage cheese (and a couple other things) I dislike most of the food options, so it would be a super depressing 3 days, even if I didn't already object to the whole concept of being told what to eat, as if there were some special magic to the combination of saltines and whatever. It doesn't seem as bad as some things, like that idiotic GM diet that was all over here a few weeks ago.
I am always intrigued when some fad diet starts appearing all over the forums like this, though. It must have been on some show or blogged about somewhere.0 -
"Military Diet" -- what a joke.0
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mrsmiley32 wrote: »gypsychic33 wrote: »
I don't think it's rude, I think it's truthfully blunt.
People who go on unsustainable generally gain weight back. That's what makes them unsustainable.
It was rude, for structure I'd say "watch your MFP and don't go beyond the limit, a lot of people here can give you a list of healthy tasty foods". But if you want to do the military diet all the more power to you something is always better than nothing (sometimes you have to fail to succeed and who knows you may just succeed!). Looking at those calorie measurements this still seems like CICO but with a structured set of food around it so it uses the same underlying premise. But you have to stick with it, for life or as was pointed out, you will gain it back.
So in your opinion, being honest is being rude. Again, we see it over and over that people lose, yes, but gain it back, thus the "every time I do it, I lose".
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Im pretty sure OP had already decided to do this diet before anyone even responded seeing as NO ONE was supportive. Guess everyone must walk theyre own path. Many of us here have been there done that and honestly u know whats worse than being overweight? To lose it then gain it right back. Now thats disheartening0
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You can substitute foods if you don't like something......
Sorry guys, but where did I say I was going to do this and go back to unhealthy eating? I don't even eat that bad,I was just injured and couldn't exercise how I normally do for a couple months, which led to some lethargy on my part. I don't mean to sound like a crab....
I Think this plan helps with portion size and good combos of food to put together.0 -
Gypsychic, I say you should give the military diet a whirl and see how it goes for you. There is certainly nothing wrong with eliminating sugar and toxic chemical sweetners. The diet is pretty low cal, but it's only 3 days a week. I would just say you need to be careful not to go overboard on your eating the other 4 days of the week or you will negate the 3 restrictive days. And, if you exercise during those 3 restrictive days then you might need to eat a little more.
Different things work for different people. We are not all the same. Just because some others think you are doomed to failure does not make it so. I have a friend who has always maintained her weight very well by being somewhat restrictive during the week and then eating whatever she wants on the weekends. Different strokes for different folks. I wish you all the best.0 -
I've gotten good feedback on it from another site btw.0
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Gypsychic, I say you should give the military diet a whirl and see how it goes for you. There is certainly nothing wrong with eliminating sugar and toxic chemical sweetners. The diet is pretty low cal, but it's only 3 days a week. I would just say you need to be careful not to go overboard on your eating the other 4 days of the week or you will negate the 3 restrictive days. And, if you exercise during those 3 restrictive days then you might need to eat a little more.
Different things work for different people. We are not all the same. Just because some others think you are doomed to failure does not make it so. I have a friend who has always maintained her weight very well by being somewhat restrictive during the week and then eating whatever she wants on the weekends. Different strokes for different folks. I wish you all the best.
She'll be eating ice cream and hot dogs.
Eliminating sugar and toxic chemikillz. RIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »Gypsychic, I say you should give the military diet a whirl and see how it goes for you. There is certainly nothing wrong with eliminating sugar and toxic chemical sweetners. The diet is pretty low cal, but it's only 3 days a week. I would just say you need to be careful not to go overboard on your eating the other 4 days of the week or you will negate the 3 restrictive days. And, if you exercise during those 3 restrictive days then you might need to eat a little more.
Different things work for different people. We are not all the same. Just because some others think you are doomed to failure does not make it so. I have a friend who has always maintained her weight very well by being somewhat restrictive during the week and then eating whatever she wants on the weekends. Different strokes for different folks. I wish you all the best.
She'll be eating ice cream and hot dogs.
Eliminating sugar and toxic chemikillz. RIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
I know, right?? It's not like this is some clean eating miracle, it recommends fricken hot dogs and ice cream. I stand by my assessment of this diet as a prank gone wrong.0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »Gypsychic, I say you should give the military diet a whirl and see how it goes for you. There is certainly nothing wrong with eliminating sugar and toxic chemical sweetners. The diet is pretty low cal, but it's only 3 days a week. I would just say you need to be careful not to go overboard on your eating the other 4 days of the week or you will negate the 3 restrictive days. And, if you exercise during those 3 restrictive days then you might need to eat a little more.
Different things work for different people. We are not all the same. Just because some others think you are doomed to failure does not make it so. I have a friend who has always maintained her weight very well by being somewhat restrictive during the week and then eating whatever she wants on the weekends. Different strokes for different folks. I wish you all the best.
She'll be eating ice cream and hot dogs.
Eliminating sugar and toxic chemikillz. RIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
She will also be eating tuna, steak, green beans, apples, grapefruit, carrots, and whole grain bread. No one's dietary habits are perfect all the time. This might just be a beginning place for her. She can move into something different if she wants to. Or, it might just work fine for her. She doesn't have much weight to lose, then she can work on finding a way to maintain. Honestly, I don't understand why some people want to be so negative and rude just because someone asked a question. And, I was only replying to the OP, yet you want to be rude to me as well. Wow! Just wow! Hope your day gets better.0 -
I would like to know more about these toxic chemicals0
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Any diet that lies about an association with a group in its name is probably not worth doing. The "military" diet has nothing to do with the military ... the GM, Mayo Clinic, Cleveland Clinic diets all had/have nothing to do with those organizations.
If diet actually produced sustainable results in all the years this diet has gone around via the internet, faxes, etc then nobody on the planet would be overweight because the magic solution would have been found. It simply does not work. Lose some water weight, congratulate yourself, gain it all back and more ... repeat ... and insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting different results.gypsychic33 wrote: »Military diet is just the popular name for it right now, it's also been called the three day diet. It has nothing to do with wanting to be in the military! ! ! =P
Things that work don't have to keep rebranding themselves to continuously fool a new group of people.Gypsychic, I say you should give the military diet a whirl and see how it goes for you. There is certainly nothing wrong with eliminating sugar and toxic chemical sweetners. The diet is pretty low cal, but it's only 3 days a week. I would just say you need to be careful not to go overboard on your eating the other 4 days of the week or you will negate the 3 restrictive days. And, if you exercise during those 3 restrictive days then you might need to eat a little more.
Different things work for different people. We are not all the same. Just because some others think you are doomed to failure does not make it so. I have a friend who has always maintained her weight very well by being somewhat restrictive during the week and then eating whatever she wants on the weekends. Different strokes for different folks. I wish you all the best.
Are the sweeteners as toxic as your lies about food in this post?0 -
Ah, I love the smell of White Knights in the morning.0
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The specifics of the diet are silly and the whole idea of a 3 day diet is almost an oxymoron (or some other species of moron). However, the notion of many on here that a structured diet is somehow morally inferior and less effective than an IIFYM diet is unfounded. Different people are wired differently and have different preferences for structure vs freedom. Sometimes those preferences change depending on circumstances. I started out on a structured diet, switched to unstructured, and am happy with both decisions. And empirically there is good evidence that on average, structured diets are more effective.0
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sheldonklein wrote: »The specifics of the diet are silly and the whole idea of a 3 day diet is almost an oxymoron (or some other species of moron). However, the notion of many on here that a structured diet is somehow morally inferior and less effective than an IIFYM diet is unfounded. Different people are wired differently and have different preferences for structure vs freedom. Sometimes those preferences change depending on circumstances. I started out on a structured diet, switched to unstructured, and am happy with both decisions. And empirically there is good evidence that on average, structured diets are more effective.
What does "effective" mean, though? For weight loss?
I'd be curious to find out how many people in the sadly small group of successful long-term weight loss maintainers used structured diets.
My experience with a structured diet was that while it worked great for weight loss, it taught me nothing to sustain that loss.
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Three days does not a structured diet make. Unsustainable fad diets like to claim structure, just like they like to claim association with organizations, in order to remain alive once the first group fails to keep weight off it.
Military dining facilities have structured diets on their main lines ... foods selected to provide a specific caloric and macro goal day in, day out, for eternity.0 -
TheVirgoddess wrote: »Honestly I don't see anything outrageous about it? Day 1 is 1400 calories, day 2, 1300, day 3 1200, then 1500 for four days, repeat.
I mean, the menu is really boring, and super restrictive for those three days, but it's not really a starvation or juicing diet. They do make outrageous claims and seem to be anti-sugar, but eh.
I'd rather eat food I enjoy, within my goals and continue to lose weight - but hey, whatever works for you.
There have been other members that have added up the calorie intake on these three days and it usually comes in under 1000 calories.0 -
I'm thinking it's possible there are a number of plans out there carrying the same name.
The one I am most familiar with is a very restrictive diet with a daily intake of under 1,000. It's possible the OP (or others) have found another plan that is more reasonable, calorically speaking.
But it still won't teach anyone how to make good long term food choices.0 -
Except for the ice cream. Ice cream is always a good food choice.0
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TheVirgoddess wrote: »Honestly I don't see anything outrageous about it? Day 1 is 1400 calories, day 2, 1300, day 3 1200, then 1500 for four days, repeat.
I mean, the menu is really boring, and super restrictive for those three days, but it's not really a starvation or juicing diet. They do make outrageous claims and seem to be anti-sugar, but eh.
I'd rather eat food I enjoy, within my goals and continue to lose weight - but hey, whatever works for you.
Given that the average soldier needs in the region of 3000 - 5000 kcal per day and the challenge is getting enough calories not getting too many I would say this is about as far away from an actual military diet as you could get. Thus, I suspect it's all marketing hype.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »Gypsychic, I say you should give the military diet a whirl and see how it goes for you. There is certainly nothing wrong with eliminating sugar and toxic chemical sweetners. The diet is pretty low cal, but it's only 3 days a week. I would just say you need to be careful not to go overboard on your eating the other 4 days of the week or you will negate the 3 restrictive days. And, if you exercise during those 3 restrictive days then you might need to eat a little more.
Different things work for different people. We are not all the same. Just because some others think you are doomed to failure does not make it so. I have a friend who has always maintained her weight very well by being somewhat restrictive during the week and then eating whatever she wants on the weekends. Different strokes for different folks. I wish you all the best.
She'll be eating ice cream and hot dogs.
Eliminating sugar and toxic chemikillz. RIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
Heh, so true.0 -
mumblemagic wrote: »TheVirgoddess wrote: »Honestly I don't see anything outrageous about it? Day 1 is 1400 calories, day 2, 1300, day 3 1200, then 1500 for four days, repeat.
I mean, the menu is really boring, and super restrictive for those three days, but it's not really a starvation or juicing diet. They do make outrageous claims and seem to be anti-sugar, but eh.
I'd rather eat food I enjoy, within my goals and continue to lose weight - but hey, whatever works for you.
Given that the average soldier needs in the region of 3000 - 5000 kcal per day and the challenge is getting enough calories not getting too many I would say this is about as far away from an actual military diet as you could get. Thus, I suspect it's all marketing hype.
It's totally a military diet. We called it the "iron ration", back towards the end of WW1 when supplies couldn't properly be brought to the front lines, soldiers had a small ration pack of the following: 300 g crackers, rusk or crispbread, 200g of canned meat, 150 g canned soup and 20g of coffee powder, to be used only if ordered to by your superior.0 -
Not sure why it's called "The Military Diet", I'm under the impression that people in the military, eat foods with high caloric content.
OP, this 'diet' sucks.
CICO or fad diet which won't last long, your call.0 -
I have a friend that is currently doing this. He bugs me so bad because he ALWAYS does these quick weight loss diets, and makes a huge deal about how I don't/barely lose weight. He's super cocky about his weight loss.. But he always gains it back. I'm confident that once I start getting to where my fitness is visible from others point of view, it will stay that way, versus him constantly fluctuating majorly.0
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mamapeach910 wrote: »Gypsychic, I say you should give the military diet a whirl and see how it goes for you. There is certainly nothing wrong with eliminating sugar and toxic chemical sweetners. The diet is pretty low cal, but it's only 3 days a week. I would just say you need to be careful not to go overboard on your eating the other 4 days of the week or you will negate the 3 restrictive days. And, if you exercise during those 3 restrictive days then you might need to eat a little more.
Different things work for different people. We are not all the same. Just because some others think you are doomed to failure does not make it so. I have a friend who has always maintained her weight very well by being somewhat restrictive during the week and then eating whatever she wants on the weekends. Different strokes for different folks. I wish you all the best.
She'll be eating ice cream and hot dogs.
Eliminating sugar and toxic chemikillz. RIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
Yep.
Karen, you're advising someone to do an unsustainable fad diet.0
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