After 40...what's with the choice between face and body?!!!
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wisdomfromyou wrote: »strong_curves wrote: »I dont know how true that is... I think genetics plays a role in it also. I'll be 45 this summer (and yes thats me in my profile pic) and I think I look pretty good face-wise for a 45 year old woman.
You loom so pretty, strong_curves.
Then again, I may be wrong here ...and some may even accuse me of "racial stereotyping" but I've always thought that people with dark skin age phenomenally well, on average.
I pretty much got in the habit of adding 10 years or so when trying to guess the age of an African-American and/or Asian person.
With us whites, you get more variation.
From those who age horribly to those who age really well.
I think that people of African and Asian descent stay younger looking because they don't sunbathe, which is probably the worst possible thing that a young person can do for their future skin.0 -
Umm runnung doesn't impact your face. I am your age. And even at goal I am often told I look younger and I am a runner. Honestly, it sounds like you are struggling with being in your 40's.wisdomfromyou wrote: »Maybe you should stop hanging on to something someone said when you were 28 and go run or lift something heavy...The endorphins are awesome and makes you feel 30 years younger, despite being red faced and sweaty!
I HAVE been running and will actually stop doing it so often because it DOES affect the face in a negative way.
I AM doing weights.
Feeling young is one thing, looking it is another.
Let me know how it goes when you feel awesome and energized one day, after plenty of sleep, water and everything nutritiously religious, and then you meet someone who tells you" are you OK? you look kind of tired".
So I don't think so.
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We're all going to get old, sag, and have wrinkles. Our bodies will degrade whether we're thin or not. I plan to choose the healthy and fit body because that's what's going to carry me through the years best.
I find older women who are happy and active to be the most attractive. Yes, someone with more weight may have a plumper and more youthful looking face but they're still going to show signs of age and if they aren't fit then they will seem older in so many other ways.
As for cosmetic surgery it sounds like a losing battle against time but if you want to buy yourself a few years then go for it. That's a personal decision.0 -
Umm runnung doesn't impact your face. I am your age. And even at goal I am often told I look younger and I am a runner. Honestly, it sounds like you are struggling with being in your 40's.wisdomfromyou wrote: »
It might just be so.
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Hm. Didn't realize those bags under my eyes weren't wrinkles.0
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The main reason certain races tend to age better is that they have more melanin in the skin. The same thing that gives them a darker skin tone protects them from sun damage.wisdomfromyou wrote: »strong_curves wrote: »I dont know how true that is... I think genetics plays a role in it also. I'll be 45 this summer (and yes thats me in my profile pic) and I think I look pretty good face-wise for a 45 year old woman.
You loom so pretty, strong_curves.
Then again, I may be wrong here ...and some may even accuse me of "racial stereotyping" but I've always thought that people with dark skin age phenomenally well, on average.
I pretty much got in the habit of adding 10 years or so when trying to guess the age of an African-American and/or Asian person.
With us whites, you get more variation.
From those who age horribly to those who age really well.
I think that people of African and Asian descent stay younger looking because they don't sunbathe, which is probably the worst possible thing that a young person can do for their future skin.
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Hm. Didn't realize those bags under my eyes weren't wrinkles.
Nope.
I am talking about the puffiness that collects right above a very pronounced tear trough that will run from the corner of your eye down towards your cheek bone.
Those are NOT wrinkles. And some people don't develop them.
My husband is 50 and he's got NONE of that.
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wisdomfromyou wrote: »Well...it turns out that after 40, when you lose weight, this also shows in your face and NOT in a good way. It ages you.
This is only true for some people. I follow a woman on YouTube who has lost 100 pounds and she looks fantastic.
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wisdomfromyou wrote: »I think exercise will improve your features naturally. It did for me.
Oh, years ago I was sitting in a meeting with a long-standing colleague and she smiled. Her entire face erupted in a roadmap of wrinkles, and I was inwardly appalled. I had a good think about it. She had accelerated her ageing through lifestyle (smoking and tanning) but her road was the same one I would be travelling one day. Can I be lovely and wrinkled too? I've had a decade to get used to the idea and I'm embracing it.
The alternative is to try and turn back the hands of time, and I suspect that is a never-ending search for a perfection long gone.
I am not sure why people keep talking about wrinkles - when wrinkles are the least offender when it comes to showing age.
I have seen young people looking super youthful and who make A LOT of wrinkles on the face when they smile and even when they don't.
Some people naturally create a lot of expression lines which will bring more permanent wrinkles as they age - but that is NOT what;s going to make them look old.
The loss of volume in the face, the slightly withery appearance of the skin and under eye changes in skin texture, including bags, are the true marks of looking old.
Wrinkles? Not at all.
They have injections now for that volume loss. Go get them. My friend in Arizona got them and is thrilled with the results.
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Also the knife is often a SUPER bad choice. So many people look really bad and unnatural after work on thier face. No thanks. I know my mom who is thinnish looks great at 70. My grandma who was super thin was stunning her whole life till she passed at 88. You start messing with your face and you could end up doing some real damage. I would say stay out of the plastic surgeons office and focus on being happy with you.0
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wisdomfromyou wrote: »Well...it turns out that after 40, when you lose weight, this also shows in your face and NOT in a good way. It ages you.
This is only true for some people. I follow a woman on YouTube who has lost 100 pounds and she looks fantastic.
Are you sure she didn't also have some interventions to the face? Do you know fur sure she disclosed everything on you tube? Also, how old is she?
I know that if I did do some "discreet" interventions, I wouldn't advertise it.
"Look guys, I lost weight and my face looks phenomenal too, but don't despair, I would have looked haggard had I not run to the plastic surgeon's office to fix the effects of weight loss!!".
Also, if you lose 100 lbs in your 20's or even 30's, you won't have face problems - correct. But later - hard to believe all that weight loss will have no effects on the face.
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Also the knife is often a SUPER bad choice. So many people look really bad and unnatural after work on thier face. No thanks. I know my mom who is thinnish looks great at 70. My grandma who was super thin was stunning her whole life till she passed at 88. You start messing with your face and you could end up doing some real damage. I would say stay out of the plastic surgeons office and focus on being happy with you.
I agree. I have no intentions of going under any knife.
But I am tempted to explore the fillers/laser tightening thing.0 -
wisdomfromyou wrote: »wisdomfromyou wrote: »Well...it turns out that after 40, when you lose weight, this also shows in your face and NOT in a good way. It ages you.
This is only true for some people. I follow a woman on YouTube who has lost 100 pounds and she looks fantastic.
Are you sure she didn't also have some interventions to the face? Do you know fur sure she disclosed everything on you tube? Also, how old is she?
I know that if I did do some "discreet" interventions, I wouldn't advertise it.
"Look guys, I lost weight and my face looks phenomenal too, but don't despair, I would have looked haggard had I not run to the plastic surgeon's office to fix the effects of weight loss!!".
Also, if you lose 100 lbs in your 20's or even 30's, you won't have face problems - correct. But later - hard to believe all that weight loss will have no effects on the face.
Well, she didn't disappear from YouTube for any length of time that I noticed but no, I can't guarantee that she had nothing done. If she did, it was done really well because I can't tell anything. She looks to be in her 40's.
It sounds like you're convinced that all of us over 40 are old and ugly. Whatever.
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choose HEALTH!
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Oh...what was with the oil-cleansing method again?
I had never read about it but have considered it on my own in the past because it sounds really good to me. Have always had normal-to-dry skin and love rich creams.
Is it this?
http://www.theoilcleansingmethod.com/
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I guess I'm confused about all this.0
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Face vs Body? I pick brains every time!0
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wisdomfromyou wrote: »Oh...what was with the oil-cleansing method again?
I had never read about it but have considered it on my own in the past because it sounds really good to me. Have always had normal-to-dry skin and love rich creams.
Is it this?
http://www.theoilcleansingmethod.com/
Yup, that's it. It's great. I recommend a blend of oils, but that's probably because I like buying different ones and trying them out.
I use a different blend for different seasons. In the summer, I need a less emollient blend, in the winter, I need a richer blend.
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wisdomfromyou wrote: »wisdomfromyou wrote: »Well...it turns out that after 40, when you lose weight, this also shows in your face and NOT in a good way. It ages you.
This is only true for some people. I follow a woman on YouTube who has lost 100 pounds and she looks fantastic.
Are you sure she didn't also have some interventions to the face? Do you know fur sure she disclosed everything on you tube? Also, how old is she?
I know that if I did do some "discreet" interventions, I wouldn't advertise it.
"Look guys, I lost weight and my face looks phenomenal too, but don't despair, I would have looked haggard had I not run to the plastic surgeon's office to fix the effects of weight loss!!".
Also, if you lose 100 lbs in your 20's or even 30's, you won't have face problems - correct. But later - hard to believe all that weight loss will have no effects on the face.
Well, she didn't disappear from YouTube for any length of time that I noticed but no, I can't guarantee that she had nothing done. If she did, it was done really well because I can't tell anything. She looks to be in her 40's.
It sounds like you're convinced that all of us over 40 are old and ugly. Whatever.
Right? And those that are the "youthful and pretty" *obviously* had "work" done that they refuse to disclose. Sheesh, people all age differently. That is all.0 -
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OP, for some reason Google's not loading for me right now, otherwise I'd post links.
Google Crunchy Betty Oil Cleansing. She has more information on a wider range of oils plus a great page on trouble shooting and refining oil cleansing.
She does sell her own oil blend, so you'll see that mentioned, but her site is full of great info.0 -
It sounds like you're convinced that all of us over 40 are old and ugly. Whatever.
Why did you come up with this? You are putting words in my mouth and reading wrong into what I say. This is a "no-no". :-)
Some people are fine with a more mature, aging look and would not lose a second of sleep over looking "mature". In fact, if you go back to the recent past, the mature, take-yourself-seriously look was highly coveted. In the 1940's and 1950's women in their 20's sought to look like 40 yo women. It made them feel like "true ladies".
But some of us, less "well-adjusted" people, are not.
All of us have histories behind, including psychological histories.
As someone who has been overweight since the age of 15 (on and off) and has always felt that her only physical asset was the face ...well...I am less than happy to be moving onto the "mature" look.
Now that I finally have a nice body and enough "dressing wisdom" to know what the heck to put on me (as my mother left me supper frumpy and clueless until I figured it out on my own later in life)...I would not mind looking nice for the first time ever - head to toe.
Yet now, here's the body but the face is throwing a bit of a tantrum.
I just don't like this. And I wish I had figured out this weight thing longer time ago so I could wear nice clothes and the jazz ON a young face.
This doesn't mean I think all women after 40 are ugly. :-)
I speak for myself, in the context of my own standards.
So come on.
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I've gotten comments that I look younger as I lose weight. My skin is more clear and smoother and I'm also lucky with genetics that I have very few wrinkles and a simple cream helps hide those to a point. I'm 47.
I really worried because my mom got some big jowls happening when she lost a lot of weight....but she was also in her 60s, so maybe that was it. So far, my whole face is shrinking as I lose.0 -
1st Nov 2007 ((35yrs) approx 14 stone
2nd post workout April 2014 (42yrs) approx 11 stone
I actually posted these to show how much my face has aged but its not as bad as I thought!0 -
wisdomfromyou wrote: »Oh...what was with the oil-cleansing method again?
I had never read about it but have considered it on my own in the past because it sounds really good to me. Have always had normal-to-dry skin and love rich creams.
Is it this?
http://www.theoilcleansingmethod.com/
Yes, that is it. You don't have to use castor oil or sunflower oil though--olive works great.
I'm your age, I've lost nearly 100 pounds and my face is just fine. Yours probably is too. Stop worrying so much!
Is your issue just bags under the eyes? I can't see how that has much to do with weight--it's genetic. You can lessen the appearance quite a bit with makeup.
Maybe you should post a picture of your face so that we can see what you are talking about.0 -
Face vs Body? I pick brains every time!
Sure. This is what I've been busy with my whole life - no wonder I ended up with weight and now face issues too.
After endless years of grad school, I have learned a lesson or two about HOW MUCH brains really help women in life....and how "the more things change the more they stay the same". :-)
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mamapeach910 wrote: »OP, for some reason Google's not loading for me right now, otherwise I'd post links.
Google Crunchy Betty Oil Cleansing. She has more information on a wider range of oils plus a great page on trouble shooting and refining oil cleansing.
She does sell her own oil blend, so you'll see that mentioned, but her site is full of great info.
Thank you, mamapeach! :-)0 -
Yup, volume loss in the cheeks/under eyes sure enough happens with age. Extra fat can mask it. You can either live with it, gain weight back, or get a little filler (which is easy to do and quite common these days). Just don't overdo it.0
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Someone sent me some nice words privately and it made me realize I probably came across here a bit more worried than I actually am.
I have been asking about this issue in a light-hearted manner although it may not have appeared quite so.
In reality, I am less worried/anxious about it than I come across.
Sure, I would not mind at all to figure out a way back to the plumpy skin bursting with collagen I had only 3-4 years ago, before weight loss.
But as a hypochondriac-in-chief :-), I continue to keep in mind that the only beauty I really need is the beauty in medical tests and that as long as those come out good, I will continue to have the luxury to fuss over fun vanity stuff - which is a thing that does NOT matter, at the end of the day.
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