Aspartame "sensitives" study published

TR0berts

Acg67 wrote: »

beemerphile1 wrote: »

glevinso wrote: »

Burden of proof is on you, since you make the claim.

(Hint, those studies either don't exist or they have been debunked)

What exactly do you think I have to prove, maybe you should reread my post?

I said, "My personal experience from about five years ago"
Do you think I need to prove my personal experience?

I said, "I am certainly not qualified to comment on the study linked above"
I am not so I didn't.

I said, "have seen many studies that document the hazards of aspartame"
In fact the study first linked qualifies although results were that the hazards are unsubstantiated.

Some reading for your enjoyment;

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v227/n5258/pdf/227609b0.pdf

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/aspartamebrain.pdf

http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/fetchArticle.action?articleURI=info:doi/10.1289/ehp.10271

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6204522

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6152304

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8939194

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TCR-408BJC1-4&_user=10&_coverDate=05/19/2000&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view
=c&_searchStrId=1456058577&
_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=395a2fc9d4ef0ffceeea475146341607
&searchtype=a

http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v7/n4/full/4000976a.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16129618

http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v62/n4/abs/1602866a.html

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/43/3/464 and http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/43/3/464

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2667892

http://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/0006-3223(93)90251-8/abstract

http://psy.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/pdf_extract/27/3/218

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/122214234/abstract

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199402033300501#articleResults

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/75/2/226

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/45/4/799.pdf

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/116/3/356

http://www.neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/42/5/1000

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8246307

http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.3109/00207459408985992

http://journals.lww.com/neuroreport/Abstract1995/01000Effects_of_aspartame_on_45Ca_influx_and_LDH.23.aspx

http://journals.lww.com/jneuropath/Abstract1996/11000Increasing_Brain_Tumor_Rates__Is_There_a_Link_to.2.aspx

http://www.wnho.net/formaldehyde_from_aspartame.pdf

http://md1.csa.com/partners/viewrecord.php?requester=gs&collection=ENV&recid=1354938&q=Aspartame:+Possible+Effects+on+Seizure+Suspectibility&
uid=789675711&setcookie=yes

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119449495/abstract

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119429393/abstract

http://cep.sagepub.com/content/11/4/197.abstract

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119166706/abstract

http://www.drcordas.com/education/Headaches/1doc.pdf

http://www.neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/44/10/1787?ijkey=4b59bcfcba6c01af70844762469ca00f7f358c5f&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1979655

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/120697481/abstract

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119429393/abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2040783

http://www.uthscsa.edu/hscnews/singleformat2.asp?newID=1539

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=933[page]+AND+2004/07[pdat]+AND+Davidson[author]&cmd=detailssearch

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3200909

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2359769

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/?tool=pubmed

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2986632

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3957170

http://jdr.sagepub.com/content/56/11/1427.full.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20592133

http://www.springerlink.com/content/l148w94568vt33hw/

http://www.springerlink.com/content/p33231m752721l5x/?p=41116b2cb5284004987aaa24f8a945c9&pi=37

http://www.annals.org/content/104/2/207.extract

http://pluto.huji.ac.il/~msrazy/PDF/HolderPBB89.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2796897

http://www.rense.com/general70/duut.htm

http://wurtmanlab.mit.edu/static/pdf/673.pdf

http://www.annals.org/content/102/2/206.short

http://www.dorway.com/wmonte.txt

http://archopht.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/summary/107/3/339

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3574137

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/43/3/464

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1474447/pdf/envhper00434-0053.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2010138

http://basichealthinfo.weebly.com/uploads/4/2/5/9/425984/article-on-aspartame.pdf

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleid=162185

http://smfi.is/media/misc/article-on-aspartame.pdf

http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/summary/156/9/1027-a

http://answers.hhs.gov/questions/3011

http://thetruthaboutstuff.com/pdf/(47) Scientific Abuse in Methanol.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20886530

No doubt I butchered some of the addresses while copying and I am not going to the bother with testing each, but whether one agrees with the findings or not there is substantial evidence that aspartame is harmful.

Now that I have wasted my lunch break.

Lol

http://aspartame.mercola.com/sites/aspartame/studies.aspx

My first thought: Why is acg linking to Mercola?

....Then I clicked the link....

My second thought:

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HardcoreP0rk

beemerphile1 wrote: »

Some talk about childishness, what does my forum ID have to do with anything? Critiquing one's forum ID is the pinnacle of immaturity.

Pretty sure there are more immature things.

Hornsby

HardcoreP0rk wrote: »

beemerphile1 wrote: »

Some talk about childishness, what does my forum ID have to do with anything? Critiquing one's forum ID is the pinnacle of immaturity.

Pretty sure there are more immature things.

Do you have a study to prove that?

kampshoff

Hornsby wrote: »

HardcoreP0rk wrote: »

beemerphile1 wrote: »

Some talk about childishness, what does my forum ID have to do with anything? Critiquing one's forum ID is the pinnacle of immaturity.

Pretty sure there are more immature things.

Do you have a study to prove that?

I do: linky

HardcoreP0rk

Hornsby wrote: »

HardcoreP0rk wrote: »

beemerphile1 wrote: »

Some talk about childishness, what does my forum ID have to do with anything? Critiquing one's forum ID is the pinnacle of immaturity.

Pretty sure there are more immature things.

Do you have a study to prove that?

But I only said I was "pretty" sure and CLEARLY it's just my opinion and I DONT HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING TO YOU




ok...really, im done now

HardcoreP0rk

beemerphile1 wrote: »

Some talk about childishness, what does my forum ID have to do with anything? Critiquing one's forum ID is the pinnacle of immaturity.

I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. If anything, I'm one of the few people in the whole thread who took the time to look for evidence on both sides of the argument and read it critically, without providing any emotional outpouring of support for either side of the issue.

Maybe it's the bikes you're into after all. Or maybe I just saved you from embarrassing yourself in front of Bimmer owners for your remaining years. Or maybe it doesn't really matter to you, me or anyone else. *shrugs*

chivalryder

kampshoff wrote: »

Hornsby wrote: »

HardcoreP0rk wrote: »

beemerphile1 wrote: »

Some talk about childishness, what does my forum ID have to do with anything? Critiquing one's forum ID is the pinnacle of immaturity.

Pretty sure there are more immature things.

Do you have a study to prove that?

I do: linky

This made my day.

glevinso

Acg67 wrote: »

beemerphile1 wrote: »

glevinso wrote: »

Burden of proof is on you, since you make the claim.

(Hint, those studies either don't exist or they have been debunked)

What exactly do you think I have to prove, maybe you should reread my post?

I said, "My personal experience from about five years ago"
Do you think I need to prove my personal experience?

I said, "I am certainly not qualified to comment on the study linked above"
I am not so I didn't.

I said, "have seen many studies that document the hazards of aspartame"
In fact the study first linked qualifies although results were that the hazards are unsubstantiated.

Some reading for your enjoyment;

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v227/n5258/pdf/227609b0.pdf

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/aspartamebrain.pdf

http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/fetchArticle.action?articleURI=info:doi/10.1289/ehp.10271

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6204522

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6152304

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8939194

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TCR-408BJC1-4&_user=10&_coverDate=05/19/2000&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view
=c&_searchStrId=1456058577&
_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=395a2fc9d4ef0ffceeea475146341607
&searchtype=a

http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v7/n4/full/4000976a.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16129618

http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v62/n4/abs/1602866a.html

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/43/3/464 and http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/43/3/464

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2667892

http://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/0006-3223(93)90251-8/abstract

http://psy.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/pdf_extract/27/3/218

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/122214234/abstract

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199402033300501#articleResults

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/75/2/226

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/45/4/799.pdf

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/116/3/356

http://www.neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/42/5/1000

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8246307

http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.3109/00207459408985992

http://journals.lww.com/neuroreport/Abstract1995/01000Effects_of_aspartame_on_45Ca_influx_and_LDH.23.aspx

http://journals.lww.com/jneuropath/Abstract1996/11000Increasing_Brain_Tumor_Rates__Is_There_a_Link_to.2.aspx

http://www.wnho.net/formaldehyde_from_aspartame.pdf

http://md1.csa.com/partners/viewrecord.php?requester=gs&collection=ENV&recid=1354938&q=Aspartame:+Possible+Effects+on+Seizure+Suspectibility&
uid=789675711&setcookie=yes

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119449495/abstract

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119429393/abstract

http://cep.sagepub.com/content/11/4/197.abstract

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119166706/abstract

http://www.drcordas.com/education/Headaches/1doc.pdf

http://www.neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/44/10/1787?ijkey=4b59bcfcba6c01af70844762469ca00f7f358c5f&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1979655

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/120697481/abstract

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119429393/abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2040783

http://www.uthscsa.edu/hscnews/singleformat2.asp?newID=1539

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=933[page]+AND+2004/07[pdat]+AND+Davidson[author]&cmd=detailssearch

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3200909

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2359769

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/?tool=pubmed

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2986632

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3957170

http://jdr.sagepub.com/content/56/11/1427.full.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20592133

http://www.springerlink.com/content/l148w94568vt33hw/

http://www.springerlink.com/content/p33231m752721l5x/?p=41116b2cb5284004987aaa24f8a945c9&pi=37

http://www.annals.org/content/104/2/207.extract

http://pluto.huji.ac.il/~msrazy/PDF/HolderPBB89.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2796897

http://www.rense.com/general70/duut.htm

http://wurtmanlab.mit.edu/static/pdf/673.pdf

http://www.annals.org/content/102/2/206.short

http://www.dorway.com/wmonte.txt

http://archopht.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/summary/107/3/339

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3574137

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/43/3/464

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1474447/pdf/envhper00434-0053.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2010138

http://basichealthinfo.weebly.com/uploads/4/2/5/9/425984/article-on-aspartame.pdf

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleid=162185

http://smfi.is/media/misc/article-on-aspartame.pdf

http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/summary/156/9/1027-a

http://answers.hhs.gov/questions/3011

http://thetruthaboutstuff.com/pdf/(47) Scientific Abuse in Methanol.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20886530

No doubt I butchered some of the addresses while copying and I am not going to the bother with testing each, but whether one agrees with the findings or not there is substantial evidence that aspartame is harmful.

Now that I have wasted my lunch break.

Lol

http://aspartame.mercola.com/sites/aspartame/studies.aspx

Wow... well done... quoting mercola... and removing all the quotes... hilarious

Edit: I mean "well done" for finding that the google-bomb was from Mercola

Aaron_K123

Hey everyone. Thought I'd swing by and check out the forum after having been gone for over a year. I sure am glad that way back then we managed to get over those silly arguments about sugar and artificial sweeteners. I am sure that the community has long sense moved on and that there will be brand new topics being discussed so lets jump right in. Lets see what is going on in here hmmm....wait....oh son of a *kitten*. <walks back out>

Cortelli

Aaron_K123 wrote: »

Hey everyone. Thought I'd swing by and check out the forum after having been gone for over a year. I sure am glad that way back then we managed to get over those silly arguments about sugar and artificial sweeteners. I am sure that the community has long sense moved on and that there will be brand new topics being discussed so lets jump right in. Lets see what is going on in here hmmm....wait....oh son of a *kitten*. <walks back out>