Steak or Salmon?
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never2bstopped wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »So-called "prime rib", to me, always feels like banquet food. You know the type - kinda bland, mass produced for 100+ people, but not egregiously bad.
The trick to a good rib roast steak is to sear and cook to rare. Let rest 30min at least. Cut thick and sear on high with butter 2min each side max to crust.
Best standing rib roast cooking formula is in the Barbara Kafka "Roasting" cookbook. It seems odd, with lots of dramatic changes in oven temps, but, I swear....PERFECT every time.
I need a good meats cookbook! Does this book cover all types of animals?
YES. TONS of critters, plus veg, too. All high temperature roasted and YUMMY. Plus it's a good read with tons of narrative and chatter about each type of food.
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I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.0
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anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
You haven't clarified why it isn't . "Healthier" is such a loaded term. There are a bazillion variables in nutrition, some foods are "better" by some metrics and "worse" in others.
It's all in how you prioritize your metrics. Need iron? The steak is healthier. Want more Omega 3s? The salmon is healthier. Your priorities may not be the same as someone else's.0 -
anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
And I can't believe you posted the link as solid proof. You based your opinion on others based on assumptions. That's sad.
Scientific studies are invalid as sources to back up stated opinions? Scientific studies are literally the opposite of assumptions. I don't know what to say to that but "wow".
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anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
You haven't clarified why it isn't . "Healthier" is such a loaded term. There are a bazillion variables in nutrition, some foods are "better" by some metrics and "worse" in others.
It's all in how you prioritize your metrics. Need iron? The steak is healthier. Want more Omega 3s? The salmon is healthier. Your priorities may not be the same as someone else's.
I clarified upthread. Red meat causes cancer.
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anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
And I can't believe you posted the link as solid proof. You based your opinion on others based on assumptions. That's sad.
Scientific studies are invalid as sources to back up stated opinions? Scientific studies are literally the opposite of assumptions. I don't know what to say to that but "wow".
You're study didn't actually prove anything. It was making assumptions and you made an assumption based on their assumption. I know you're new so it's okay.
So a completely unfounded opinion (because you don't like controlled experiments) is somehow not an assumption? Right.
Way to be completely condescending, too.0 -
Anybody else ever have a Saratoga Ribeye? The marbling and flavor of a ribeye, but cut more like a filet so it is a little smaller, doesn't have the fat cap on the edge but still very flavorful. My butcher here sells them rolled in peppercorns. Seriously my favorite cut of meat.0
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anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
You haven't clarified why it isn't . "Healthier" is such a loaded term. There are a bazillion variables in nutrition, some foods are "better" by some metrics and "worse" in others.
It's all in how you prioritize your metrics. Need iron? The steak is healthier. Want more Omega 3s? The salmon is healthier. Your priorities may not be the same as someone else's.
I clarified upthread. Red meat causes cancer.
Everything causes cancer.0 -
anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
You haven't clarified why it isn't . "Healthier" is such a loaded term. There are a bazillion variables in nutrition, some foods are "better" by some metrics and "worse" in others.
It's all in how you prioritize your metrics. Need iron? The steak is healthier. Want more Omega 3s? The salmon is healthier. Your priorities may not be the same as someone else's.
I clarified upthread. Red meat causes cancer.
Everything causes cancer.
Super argument. Clearly you're right.0 -
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anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
You haven't clarified why it isn't . "Healthier" is such a loaded term. There are a bazillion variables in nutrition, some foods are "better" by some metrics and "worse" in others.
It's all in how you prioritize your metrics. Need iron? The steak is healthier. Want more Omega 3s? The salmon is healthier. Your priorities may not be the same as someone else's.
I clarified upthread. Red meat causes cancer.
Everything causes cancer.
Super argument. Clearly you're right.
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never2bstopped wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »So-called "prime rib", to me, always feels like banquet food. You know the type - kinda bland, mass produced for 100+ people, but not egregiously bad.
The trick to a good rib roast steak is to sear and cook to rare. Let rest 30min at least. Cut thick and sear on high with butter 2min each side max to crust.
Best standing rib roast cooking formula is in the Barbara Kafka "Roasting" cookbook. It seems odd, with lots of dramatic changes in oven temps, but, I swear....PERFECT every time.
I need a good meats cookbook! Does this book cover all types of animals?
YES. TONS of critters, plus veg, too. All high temperature roasted and YUMMY. Plus it's a good read with tons of narrative and chatter about each type of food.
Love this cookbook.
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Doesn't salmon contain mercury?????
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anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
And I can't believe you posted the link as solid proof. You based your opinion on others based on assumptions. That's sad.
Scientific studies are invalid as sources to back up stated opinions? Scientific studies are literally the opposite of assumptions. I don't know what to say to that but "wow".
You're study didn't actually prove anything. It was making assumptions and you made an assumption based on their assumption. I know you're new so it's okay.
So a completely unfounded opinion (because you don't like controlled experiments) is somehow not an assumption? Right.
Way to be completely condescending, too.
There's all the "may" and "could" in the paragraphs. I saw nothing conclusive.
Have you ever read a scientific study? That's the sort of language they use. They're not positing a scientific theory; that's a lot harder to do and that's why there are so few of them.
But my bad; I shouldn't have posted in a forum called "Food and Nutrition" when it appears to be a forum about taste preferences, humor, and not actually addressing the questions asked.0 -
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anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
You haven't clarified why it isn't . "Healthier" is such a loaded term. There are a bazillion variables in nutrition, some foods are "better" by some metrics and "worse" in others.
It's all in how you prioritize your metrics. Need iron? The steak is healthier. Want more Omega 3s? The salmon is healthier. Your priorities may not be the same as someone else's.
I clarified upthread. Red meat causes cancer.
Everything causes cancer.
Super argument. Clearly you're right.
Well what else has been said to cause cancer? The sun, cell phones, talcum powder, oral sex, alcohol. So everyone needs to give up all that stuff as well right?
Cool straw man argument, bro.0 -
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anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
You haven't clarified why it isn't . "Healthier" is such a loaded term. There are a bazillion variables in nutrition, some foods are "better" by some metrics and "worse" in others.
It's all in how you prioritize your metrics. Need iron? The steak is healthier. Want more Omega 3s? The salmon is healthier. Your priorities may not be the same as someone else's.
I clarified upthread. Red meat causes cancer.
No, honey. I expect you to clarify with some degree of scientific credibility, not just the BS "cawzez cansur!!!!!!11!" bulshite.
Actual scientific metrics on good beef vs. wild caught fish are pretty much even.0 -
anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
You haven't clarified why it isn't . "Healthier" is such a loaded term. There are a bazillion variables in nutrition, some foods are "better" by some metrics and "worse" in others.
It's all in how you prioritize your metrics. Need iron? The steak is healthier. Want more Omega 3s? The salmon is healthier. Your priorities may not be the same as someone else's.
I clarified upthread. Red meat causes cancer.
Everything causes cancer.
Super argument. Clearly you're right.
Well what else has been said to cause cancer? The sun, cell phones, talcum powder, oral sex, alcohol. So everyone needs to give up all that stuff as well right?
Ok you have my attention now MrM.
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anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
You haven't clarified why it isn't . "Healthier" is such a loaded term. There are a bazillion variables in nutrition, some foods are "better" by some metrics and "worse" in others.
It's all in how you prioritize your metrics. Need iron? The steak is healthier. Want more Omega 3s? The salmon is healthier. Your priorities may not be the same as someone else's.
I clarified upthread. Red meat causes cancer.
Everything causes cancer.
Super argument. Clearly you're right.
Well what else has been said to cause cancer? The sun, cell phones, talcum powder, oral sex, alcohol. So everyone needs to give up all that stuff as well right?
Ok you have my attention now MrM.
Really. Sign me up for cancer.
Did I just say that out loud?
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mamapeach910 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
You haven't clarified why it isn't . "Healthier" is such a loaded term. There are a bazillion variables in nutrition, some foods are "better" by some metrics and "worse" in others.
It's all in how you prioritize your metrics. Need iron? The steak is healthier. Want more Omega 3s? The salmon is healthier. Your priorities may not be the same as someone else's.
I clarified upthread. Red meat causes cancer.
Everything causes cancer.
Super argument. Clearly you're right.
Well what else has been said to cause cancer? The sun, cell phones, talcum powder, oral sex, alcohol. So everyone needs to give up all that stuff as well right?
Ok you have my attention now MrM.
Really. Sign me up for cancer.
Did I just say that out loud?
Let's see, a steak, a nice bottle of wine, pretty sure there's only one way to finish off that night. I'm doomed.
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anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »anuhealani1 wrote: »I get it: People like beef. (I do, too.) I would probably get the steak in this scenario, because I like tasty food that's cooked correctly. But that wasn't the question asked, and it's sort of shocking to me that anyone could still be of the opinion that beef is as healthy as fish.
You haven't clarified why it isn't . "Healthier" is such a loaded term. There are a bazillion variables in nutrition, some foods are "better" by some metrics and "worse" in others.
It's all in how you prioritize your metrics. Need iron? The steak is healthier. Want more Omega 3s? The salmon is healthier. Your priorities may not be the same as someone else's.
I clarified upthread. Red meat causes cancer.
Everything causes cancer.
Super argument. Clearly you're right.
Well what else has been said to cause cancer? The sun, cell phones, talcum powder, oral sex, alcohol. So everyone needs to give up all that stuff as well right?
Ok you have my attention now MrM.
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never2bstopped wrote: »So-called "prime rib", to me, always feels like banquet food. You know the type - kinda bland, mass produced for 100+ people, but not egregiously bad.
The trick to a good rib roast steak is to sear and cook to rare. Let rest 30min at least. Cut thick and sear on high with butter 2min each side max to crust.
Best standing rib roast cooking formula is in the Barbara Kafka "Roasting" cookbook. It seems odd, with lots of dramatic changes in oven temps, but, I swear....PERFECT every time.
I love this book. It changed my default way of cooking a good many meat options. And I've done the rib roast for Christmas dinner--delicious!0
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