OHP in squat rack?
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
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So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.0 -
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
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So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
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So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
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So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
who uses a timer on 1 rep maxes?
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LolBroScience wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
[/b]
So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
wutLolBroScience wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
[/b]
So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
wut
strength days= set weight then timer 60 seconds.
max days= follow strength rest schedule until 95% of max then timer increases to 120 seconds.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
[/b]
So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
who uses a timer on 1 rep maxes?
This.... and why so short?0 -
970Mikaela1 wrote: »I'm going to deadlift in front of power rack then squat my volume day in said rack tonight. I will tie it up for an hour. Is that ok? My credit card was charged today so I believe it'll be fine.
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LolBroScience wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
[/b]
So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
who uses a timer on 1 rep maxes?
This.... and why so short?
seriously- Monday I tested all my 1 rep maxes- legit- a warm up and then 3 attempts going upwards (my own mini meet)
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LolBroScience wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
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So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
who uses a timer on 1 rep maxes?
This.... and why so short?
I wanted to condition myself to be able to lift heavy in a short amount of time. As much as I love going to the gym I do not want to be there for long. I also read that lifting for more than a hour drops testosterone levels. This might be outdated info though.
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There is no hope for this thread. Nothing here has anything to do with leaving a squat rack open anymore.0
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
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So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
No way can I do 60 second rests even on hyper days on working sets and definitely not on strength days - not even 2 minutes. I rest up to 10 minutes between some sets for strength days.
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IsaackGMOON wrote: »My gym only has 1 squat rack. There isn't a power rack, there's a smith machine but I haven't heard good things about them.
Is it considered bad gym etiquette to do OHP in the squat rack? Cleaning the bar is getting quite tiresome and I'm just dreading the day something goes wrong when I can't get a rep out or something.
The squat rack I use is too short to OHP in, so I just set the pins on the outside ("front") of the rack and do it out there. I mean if you miss a rep you're just going to lower it back to your shoulders anyway, right? And if someone doesn't mind you being behind them then you could even OHP in front of the rack while they squat inside it.
I mean is everyone expected to power clean every OHP set? lulz
edit: was thinking power rack. for just a squat rack, idk, just hope no one asks you to leave, I guess.
nope they can use the bench if it is setup properly (similar to pic below)
...that's what I did until I got my squat rack at home.
I don't have issues with OHP'ing in the rack...even if there is just one rack...but if someone is waiting to do squats I would let them in and do what I mentioned above...because no I don't want to clean 90-100lbs (my OHP) for more than a couple reps...
If I wanted to do squats...I would ask them to either work me in or leave it for me as I needed it more than them...but that's only if there was one rack...
I have tried to unrack from benches before - unfortunately, the bench is too far back and I cannot get a good position - I end up having to lean over which is not ideal at all. If it is set up so you can, then I would try - but then again, you are now using a bench and the benchers will start complaining!!
Yah it's not ideal but worked for a while..wouldn't want to try it now that i have my own personal squat rack...
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IsaackGMOON wrote: »My gym only has 1 squat rack. There isn't a power rack, there's a smith machine but I haven't heard good things about them.
Is it considered bad gym etiquette to do OHP in the squat rack? Cleaning the bar is getting quite tiresome and I'm just dreading the day something goes wrong when I can't get a rep out or something.
The squat rack I use is too short to OHP in, so I just set the pins on the outside ("front") of the rack and do it out there. I mean if you miss a rep you're just going to lower it back to your shoulders anyway, right? And if someone doesn't mind you being behind them then you could even OHP in front of the rack while they squat inside it.
I mean is everyone expected to power clean every OHP set? lulz
edit: was thinking power rack. for just a squat rack, idk, just hope no one asks you to leave, I guess.
nope they can use the bench if it is setup properly (similar to pic below)
...that's what I did until I got my squat rack at home.
I don't have issues with OHP'ing in the rack...even if there is just one rack...but if someone is waiting to do squats I would let them in and do what I mentioned above...because no I don't want to clean 90-100lbs (my OHP) for more than a couple reps...
If I wanted to do squats...I would ask them to either work me in or leave it for me as I needed it more than them...but that's only if there was one rack...
I have tried to unrack from benches before - unfortunately, the bench is too far back and I cannot get a good position - I end up having to lean over which is not ideal at all. If it is set up so you can, then I would try - but then again, you are now using a bench and the benchers will start complaining!!
Luckily, we have an upright military bench/rack/thing in my gym. The front supports (for bailing out of the seated press) are out in front of the bench and so it's pretty easy to get under the bar, and I only have to bend my knees a little to get into position. It's a good alternative for me when the squat racks are busy.
Kind of looks like this although the front supports are a little different:
My biggest problem with our squat racks is that the supports are way too high, and I can't hit parallel in them (and I'm not particularly short at 5'8"). Most girls who hit parallel squat behind the racks, which isn't the safest. I try to squat in the power cage if I can, but we only have one. And it's way more convenient now that I've switched to 5/3/1. Doing 5x5, I had to squat in the cage, and then move elsewhere to OHP (power cage is too short to OHP in) and DL (or just deal with moving the pins and supports out). And of course, it never occurred to me to put the pins in the front of the cage until I saw it a few weeks ago. Sigh. Apparently my brain does not function as well as I thought it did at 5am...
Also, my gym is the land of misfit equipment, I swear...0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
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So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
No way can I do 60 second rests even on hyper days on working sets and definitely not on strength days - not even 2 minutes. I rest up to 10 minutes between some sets for strength days.
Yeah max days are interesting when I decide if I am ready to re attempt a failed lift with such low amount of rest.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
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So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
No way can I do 60 second rests even on hyper days on working sets and definitely not on strength days - not even 2 minutes. I rest up to 10 minutes between some sets for strength days.
Yeah max days are interesting when I decide if I am ready to re attempt a failed lift with such low amount of rest.
perhaps rest longer and you won't be as apt to fail a lift0 -
Too late. My gym has a rack pretty much identical to that one, except it has additional fixed pins at my upper-thigh height. It's almost useless, except it's so much nicer to put the weights on the bar when the bar is off of the ground.
I use it to set up for bent over rows and deadlifts if the deadlift area is busy.
Or as a warmup area if the other squat racks and the power cage are busy.
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LolBroScience wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
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So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
No way can I do 60 second rests even on hyper days on working sets and definitely not on strength days - not even 2 minutes. I rest up to 10 minutes between some sets for strength days.
Yeah max days are interesting when I decide if I am ready to re attempt a failed lift with such low amount of rest.
perhaps rest longer and you won't be as apt to fail a lift
logic is not allowed on MFP.
so GTFO.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
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So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
No way can I do 60 second rests even on hyper days on working sets and definitely not on strength days - not even 2 minutes. I rest up to 10 minutes between some sets for strength days.
Yeah max days are interesting when I decide if I am ready to re attempt a failed lift with such low amount of rest.
perhaps rest longer and you won't be as apt to fail a lift
Max days are always till a fail lift.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
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So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
No way can I do 60 second rests even on hyper days on working sets and definitely not on strength days - not even 2 minutes. I rest up to 10 minutes between some sets for strength days.
Yeah max days are interesting when I decide if I am ready to re attempt a failed lift with such low amount of rest.
I don't plan to use short rest intervals but I do sometimes out of necessity. I have a lot of other things going on so I don't always have the time to train that I'd like. On those days I rest long enough to add some more weight to the bar and that's it.
I'm not sure why everyone's tripping on it so bad though. It's not like you're telling them that they have to take short rest periods.0 -
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I too, use a timer, as we have no clock in the heavy area of my gym.
That's just because I want some level of consistency - I have a minimum rest period (depending on lift, %RM, reps) - but still go with feel. If I'm not feeling it after whatever rest period, I wait a little longer.
And yeah - for anything resembling a max lift? It's at least 5 minutes - often a bit longer.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
[/b]
So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
No way can I do 60 second rests even on hyper days on working sets and definitely not on strength days - not even 2 minutes. I rest up to 10 minutes between some sets for strength days.
Yeah max days are interesting when I decide if I am ready to re attempt a failed lift with such low amount of rest.
perhaps rest longer and you won't be as apt to fail a lift
Max days are always till a fail lift.
Obviously.... but resting longer in between the attempts instead of 2 minutes can potentially yield a higher 1RM.0 -
Because the OHP is the bane of my existence and because I sometimes struggle just to increase my lift by a measly 5 lbs, hell yes I use the squat rack. I am actually using the pegs and it is assisting me in the lift as opposed to curls. I am not about to clean and jerk it up and expell that energy that I could use to increase my lift. Unracking from a bench or jerking isn't ideal for me at this point. Luckily for me, there is rarely anyone using the rack at my gym anyway.0
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1.25lb weights were the best investment I ever made when I started lifting (well, besides the gym membership).jenluvsushi wrote: »Because the OHP is the bane of my existence and because I sometimes struggle just to increase my lift by a measly 5 lbs, hell yes I use the squat rack. I am actually using the pegs and it is assisting me in the lift as opposed to curls. I am not about to clean and jerk it up and expell that energy that I could use to increase my lift. Unracking from a bench or jerking isn't ideal for me at this point. Luckily for me, there is rarely anyone using the rack at my gym anyway.
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IsaackGMOON wrote: »My gym only has 1 squat rack. There isn't a power rack, there's a smith machine but I haven't heard good things about them.
Is it considered bad gym etiquette to do OHP in the squat rack? Cleaning the bar is getting quite tiresome and I'm just dreading the day something goes wrong when I can't get a rep out or something.
The squat rack I use is too short to OHP in, so I just set the pins on the outside ("front") of the rack and do it out there. I mean if you miss a rep you're just going to lower it back to your shoulders anyway, right? And if someone doesn't mind you being behind them then you could even OHP in front of the rack while they squat inside it.
I mean is everyone expected to power clean every OHP set? lulz
edit: was thinking power rack. for just a squat rack, idk, just hope no one asks you to leave, I guess.
nope they can use the bench if it is setup properly (similar to pic below)
...that's what I did until I got my squat rack at home.
I don't have issues with OHP'ing in the rack...even if there is just one rack...but if someone is waiting to do squats I would let them in and do what I mentioned above...because no I don't want to clean 90-100lbs (my OHP) for more than a couple reps...
If I wanted to do squats...I would ask them to either work me in or leave it for me as I needed it more than them...but that's only if there was one rack...
I have tried to unrack from benches before - unfortunately, the bench is too far back and I cannot get a good position - I end up having to lean over which is not ideal at all. If it is set up so you can, then I would try - but then again, you are now using a bench and the benchers will start complaining!!
Yah it's not ideal but worked for a while..wouldn't want to try it now that i have my own personal squat rack...
Me too - I have a power cage in my dining room (along with a commercial lat pull down/seated cable row, calf raise machine and deadlift platform lol).
I still occasionally lift in gyms - but only when working out with others and luckily have never had issues with people waiting to use squat racks or power cages in them (either because they were PL'ing gyms and had a bunch or because most people did not squat).0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
I never said you did. I didn't imply anything. I asked a question.yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So then no one should complaining when someone is using the squat rack to do any exercise?
Strawman.
Where did I say/imply that?
What you did imply was that OHP and squats go hand in hand in the squat rack which I totally disagree with.
No I did not and yes you did.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Where should someone squat when someone squatting is in the squat rack?
So what was this question? A joke? Sarcasm? Did I interpet this wrong?
Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
It's probably easier to work in with someone OHP'ing.
For example, my OHP can be as quick as 10 minutes if someone is waiting. The person wanting to squat can do their warm ups during this time - either using the weight I have on the bar, or adding more. It is no real difference than working in with someone squatting - but much quicker - so timing is probably such that it is less of a disruption to their routine.
Also, I have no idea where you went from OHP/Squats to any lift/squats. I never said or implied that.
You asked a question earlier we how much you can lift from pins v cleaning the bar. I can lift more from pins and have less chance of injury. If I am doing OHP, I am training OHP. I am not training cleans. I need pins to get a decent OHP session in. I do not care where the pins are - but usually they are on the squat rack/power cage, so that is where I will press. However, as with any lift you are doing, you need to be respectful to other lifters and allow them to work in where possible. I also think that you should try to adapt your routine as much as you can to allow for squatters to use the power cage/squat rack - but within reason.
Your first sentence.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
[/b]
So if we are waiting or working in then we cannot complain when people use the rack to do any exercise.
interesting with your pins vs cleans.
Also I know your not using me per say but I only squat in the racks.
What is it with the strawmen?
Again...where did I say/imply that? If you read my response, it should be pretty clear that I did not.
You may only squat in the racks. I also do OHPs, for reasons already noted.
While yes you are only talking about OHP and Squats I was not. I was talking about any exercise in the rack.Neither. I was making a point that people have to wait if a power cage/squat rack is being used, or just work in.
For example. today is squat day for me on 5/3/1 program. I know 100% that when I go to the gym today that the rack will be in use. My gym only has one because we love to be a weak community college. 90% of the time it not squats or rack pulls. I'm going to ask how many sets person has doing whatever exercise it is. If another bar is available I will do my warm up sets with dl,clean,OHP to back squat. It gets to a certain point where I need to pins. People do notice that in the past and have given up doing something other then squats in the rack so I could continue to increase weight in the rack. It usually the person either curling or doing shoulder shrugs in the rack. Thinking about gym goers at my gym, people are not OHP in the squat rack.
As much as I like to work in with someone it would almost take more time to lift than I lift, change weight, then set timer to 60 seconds.
And my post responded.
If you want me to lay it out for you.....no, not any exercise but I am not even sure why you are asking me as its a silly question imo.
Not sure why you are setting a timer for 60 seconds either tbh.
It is the way I use rest periods. I like to keep them very short on strength days. I even keep them short on a max day until like 95% of max then I bump timer up to 2 minutes for max lifts.
No way can I do 60 second rests even on hyper days on working sets and definitely not on strength days - not even 2 minutes. I rest up to 10 minutes between some sets for strength days.
Yeah max days are interesting when I decide if I am ready to re attempt a failed lift with such low amount of rest.
I don't plan to use short rest intervals but I do sometimes out of necessity. I have a lot of other things going on so I don't always have the time to train that I'd like. On those days I rest long enough to add some more weight to the bar and that's it.
I'm not sure why everyone's tripping on it so bad though. It's not like you're telling them that they have to take short rest periods.
above 95%- is obviously pushing the 1RPM
not sure who goes in and lifts at 95% or higher with the intent of making it a short lift. That seems mighty counter productive. If you don't have much time- go do an effective lift.... lifting that high on strong days with a truncated time line is asking for injury.
And training to failure regularly is NOT productive either- that's a proven fact for someone trying to get stronger.0
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