OHP in squat rack?
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You all pay the same dues. Gym "etiquette" can blow a goat. It's not a dining establishment.
Anyone that disrespects anyone for exercising how they do what they do needs to check themselves. Hell, this morning a very heavy gal took my spot every time she moved. I couldn't win. So I adapted, did a few different exercises and found new moves. Ended up winning in the end. It happens.
She was exercising. I respected the guts she had to do her thing.
Btw, I do curl drops in the rack all the time. All the hate makes me want to initiate calf raises and some ab work. People that actually complain about "get out of my squat rack" are new. Those that care enough about it find locations or build it at home. Smack talkers.
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I don't consider it inappropriate to do OHP in the squat rack, even if there is only one. I would ask how many sets they have left and let them know you need it to squat.
^^this.
When I lifted in a gym, I even used to offer to move from the power cage after squats to the squat rack as the squat rack had fixed (high) and most people under 6' could not even hit depth in it properly anyway. I usually run through my OHP sets pretty quickly anyway.
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LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »sgthaggard wrote: »
Agreed but it really isn't necessary esp if there is only one squat rack because let's be honest...if you fail at an ohp chances are it's not gonna go anywhere but just stay on your chest area...yes being in the Squat rack makes it easier to get it off your chest but not that nice if there is only one squat rack....
but that's why I have my own personal squat rack and work out at home as I prefer not to have to deal with this sort of thing...funny thing is I ohp in my own squat rack.
And to all those who say they do it and don't see an issue...the question is about etiquette when there is only one rack in the whole gym....and no it's not proper etiquette to take up the one and only squat rack for non squat lifts.
They pay for the gym as well, no?
yes they do..but just cause you pay for a gym membership doesn't mean you own it and can do what you want whenever you want...it would be different if there are multiple racks but in this case there is only one and everyone has to admit if you knew that someone wanted to do squats for you to stand in the one place for them to safely do them for OHP it is rude esp when there are other options for OHP but not so much for squats.
So, would it be any better if I decided to do a high volume squat workout with say Squats, and Front Squats back to back?
I'd rather wait 10 minutes for someone doing OHP, as opposed to 30 mins for a high volume squat session.
I totally disagree that its rude.
My squats can take over an hour. My OHP, if someone is waiting, can be done in 10 minutes.
Apparently, with this spare bar that appears to always be available in the scenarios given, I do not see why I cannot squat outside the squat rack for warm ups and not need a rack for about that 10 minutes. Heck, I can probably work in on my warm ups. No biggie.0 -
It's not rude. Strongman competitors train their OHP in squat racks when they prepare for a competition that doesnt require them to clean the axle or log. Its a raw lift, just like squatting, how else will you do it unless in a rack?0
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If someone does OHP (or curls for that matter) and nobody is in the gym to see them, did it make a sound?0
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I'm gonna OHP in the squat rack next time I go and there's nothing you can do to stop me.0
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LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »sgthaggard wrote: »
Agreed but it really isn't necessary esp if there is only one squat rack because let's be honest...if you fail at an ohp chances are it's not gonna go anywhere but just stay on your chest area...yes being in the Squat rack makes it easier to get it off your chest but not that nice if there is only one squat rack....
but that's why I have my own personal squat rack and work out at home as I prefer not to have to deal with this sort of thing...funny thing is I ohp in my own squat rack.
And to all those who say they do it and don't see an issue...the question is about etiquette when there is only one rack in the whole gym....and no it's not proper etiquette to take up the one and only squat rack for non squat lifts.
They pay for the gym as well, no?
yes they do..but just cause you pay for a gym membership doesn't mean you own it and can do what you want whenever you want...it would be different if there are multiple racks but in this case there is only one and everyone has to admit if you knew that someone wanted to do squats for you to stand in the one place for them to safely do them for OHP it is rude esp when there are other options for OHP but not so much for squats.
So, would it be any better if I decided to do a high volume squat workout with say Squats, and Front Squats back to back?
I'd rather wait 10 minutes for someone doing OHP, as opposed to 30 mins for a high volume squat session.
I totally disagree that its rude.
My squats can take over an hour. My OHP, if someone is waiting, can be done in 10 minutes.
Apparently, with this spare bar that appears to always be available in the scenarios given, I do not see why I cannot squat outside the squat rack for warm ups and not need a rack for about that 10 minutes. Heck, I can probably work in on my warm ups. No biggie.
Not sure if aimed at me or Stef.0 -
OHP in squat rack is normal.
Thinking otherwise shows a lack of knowledge0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »sgthaggard wrote: »
Agreed but it really isn't necessary esp if there is only one squat rack because let's be honest...if you fail at an ohp chances are it's not gonna go anywhere but just stay on your chest area...yes being in the Squat rack makes it easier to get it off your chest but not that nice if there is only one squat rack....
but that's why I have my own personal squat rack and work out at home as I prefer not to have to deal with this sort of thing...funny thing is I ohp in my own squat rack.
And to all those who say they do it and don't see an issue...the question is about etiquette when there is only one rack in the whole gym....and no it's not proper etiquette to take up the one and only squat rack for non squat lifts.
They pay for the gym as well, no?
yes they do..but just cause you pay for a gym membership doesn't mean you own it and can do what you want whenever you want...it would be different if there are multiple racks but in this case there is only one and everyone has to admit if you knew that someone wanted to do squats for you to stand in the one place for them to safely do them for OHP it is rude esp when there are other options for OHP but not so much for squats.
So, would it be any better if I decided to do a high volume squat workout with say Squats, and Front Squats back to back?
I'd rather wait 10 minutes for someone doing OHP, as opposed to 30 mins for a high volume squat session.
I totally disagree that its rude.
My squats can take over an hour. My OHP, if someone is waiting, can be done in 10 minutes.
Apparently, with this spare bar that appears to always be available in the scenarios given, I do not see why I cannot squat outside the squat rack for warm ups and not need a rack for about that 10 minutes. Heck, I can probably work in on my warm ups. No biggie.
Not sure if aimed at me or Stef.
Talking to you...you got a problem with that
Actually, I was agreeing with you (disagreeing with the poster you quoted) and then adding some chit chat ramble.0 -
chubby_checkers wrote: »
I would second this as well ..
and I do OHP in the squat rack
besides, you get pretty damn tired if you had to clean and press 135# and then OHP it...
You sure about the bold?0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »chubby_checkers wrote: »
I would second this as well ..
and I do OHP in the squat rack
besides, you get pretty damn tired if you had to clean and press 135# and then OHP it...
You sure about the bold?
my rephrase would be it is not optimal to do it that way ...but I could be wrong..0 -
my opinion is that if the gym is more or less empty and your not going to make anyone wait then there's no reason not to use the squat rack for any lift you'd like, especially if there is no alternative equipment. I can only imagine that the reason people would assume its a bad etiquette to do this is because they see people shamed for it.
using the squat rack for another lift isn't inherently wrong, its just a pain in the *kitten* to those waiting use it for squats, so when no one is waiting, enjoy.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »chubby_checkers wrote: »
I would second this as well ..
and I do OHP in the squat rack
besides, you get pretty damn tired if you had to clean and press 135# and then OHP it...
You sure about the bold?
my rephrase would be it is not optimal to do it that way ...but I could be wrong..
try it. You might find that there isn't so much energy used deadlifting and cleaning 135 lb first before OHP.
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And to all those who say they do it and don't see an issue...the question is about etiquette when there is only one rack in the whole gym....and no it's not proper etiquette to take up the one and only squat rack for non squat lifts.[/quote]
idk, if there's no one waiting how exactly is it bad etiquette, is it bad etiquette to fart in an empty bathroom?0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »chubby_checkers wrote: »
I would second this as well ..
and I do OHP in the squat rack
besides, you get pretty damn tired if you had to clean and press 135# and then OHP it...
You sure about the bold?
my rephrase would be it is not optimal to do it that way ...but I could be wrong..
try it. You might find that there isn't so much energy used deadlifting and cleaning 135 lb first before OHP.
Probably depends upon what % of your 1RM it is.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »chubby_checkers wrote: »
I would second this as well ..
and I do OHP in the squat rack
besides, you get pretty damn tired if you had to clean and press 135# and then OHP it...
You sure about the bold?
my rephrase would be it is not optimal to do it that way ...but I could be wrong..
try it. You might find that there isn't so much energy used deadlifting and cleaning 135 lb first before OHP.
Probably depends upon what % of your 1RM it is.
I guess I did assume that he could do 135 OHP for reps.
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I have done it both ways but I prefer to just press from a rack. Even though I have not gotten to a point in my overhead pressing that I couldn't clean the weight, I like to do the exercise as it is defined/described. If I wanted to do clean and press, I would call it that.
Oddly enough, sometimes I prefer to do my heavier reps with a clean though. Even though I still perform the rep as a strict press, I feel like it gives me some momentum going into the attempt. Even though I have this preference, my vote still goes for using the rack if available because a press is a press, not a clean and press from reps (a strongman event).
Bottom line is, who really cares how you do it as long as you are doing? Just be respectful of others. You are still improving something no matter how you go about doing the exercise.0 -
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What about 160?GuitarJerry wrote: »When I'm pressing 155 lbs, damn straight I'm in the squat rack. Deal with it.
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To all the people that say it's wrong, where are you supposed to OHP? You can't do an OHP from a bench.0
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would it also be poor etiquette to sit down on a bench that wasn't being used during a set brake in a more or less empty gym?0
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I see more people using them for other exercises at my gym than I see them being used for squats (so disappointing). I say if no one is waiting for the rack then use it, if it's busy and people are waiting then do any exercise that doesn't require the rack elsewhere.
But you don't necessarily know who's waiting for the squat rack because they are probably off doing something else while waiting. You might think that guy doing lunges on the other end of the weight room just wanted to do some lunges but actually he's just keeping himself busy while you are improperly using the equipment he needs.
In my gym you know if you pay any attention. It's not a very busy gym and it's smaller.
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everyone on mfp is an olympic lifter.The big problem with doing presses out of any sort of rack is that, eventually, you will be able to press more than you can clean which is obviously weak sauce. Just clean the bar and press it over your head. You're in the gym to do work anyway so just do the work!
lulno.
I hope you're just kidding, because ya know... technique and shizz.
If you aren't kidding... lulz.
I know, it's impossible to have good technique when pressing from a clean. Those oly lifters don't know what they're doing....
olympic lifters are made in a cookie press.
it's so easy to oly lift, that's why everyone does it.
hmm, what other comments could I create that are akin to yours?
lulz. Again, technique. Also, let's not forget, jerk not press. Jerk not press. Jerk not press. Jerk not press. Arms used for control, not to press up the bar.
The clean and press was an Olympic evwntmy gym has a "squat rack" Is it a squat rack? Not a cage but has a level to put the bar on to be safely picked up for OHP. I could not imagine someone OHP ing 300+ pounds from the ground. I have a hard enough time OHPing 100 pounds from the ground.
I use the squat rack at my gym for ALL stronglift 5x5 programs. This is why I go in the morning. my gym also only has one squat rack and people are constantly using the squat rack for sit ups after work.
Anyways I'm off topic. It is completely fine to use the squat rack for OHP (assuming its the one that you can position the bar to be level with your chest).
Anyone that's pressing 300+ pounds over his/her head? I want to be there when some fool tries telling him/her that (s)he shouldn't be doing it in the squat rack.
Hahaha, good point. Apparently people don't have an issue giving that guy a hard time over the internet though.0 -
Question. Has anyone ever notice if you do both ways to OHP that having the bar start at rack position helping putting up anymore weigh?
for example if I knew that I could do 10 more pounds with an extra rep or two from rack position than from ground then why not start from rack position.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »Actually seated OHP is a exercise that can be done from a bench.
There's a significant difference between standing & seated.
The correct answer isn't fewer people doing exercises that require adjustable height racked equipment, but the gym recognizing the need for more adjustable height racked free weight equipment in the first place.
How many isolation machines sit idle while people are waiting for the 1 or 2 power racks/squat racks? Gyms shouldn't throw money at stuff people don't use and put money where the membership that shows up is going to actually going to use.
The gym needs more racks.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »Actually seated OHP is a exercise that can be done from a bench.
There's a significant difference between standing & seated.
The correct answer isn't fewer people doing exercises that require adjustable height racked equipment, but the gym recognizing the need for more adjustable height racked free weight equipment in the first place.
How many isolation machines sit idle while people are waiting for the 1 or 2 power racks/squat racks? Gyms shouldn't throw money at stuff people don't use and put money where the membership that shows up is going to actually going to use.
The gym needs more racks.
My gym needs more free weights in general. Not enough 45 plates for me and someone else on the strong side to do two of the three big lifts. Last year it was worst though so my gym has improved a little.0 -
AllanMisner wrote: »
What about 160?GuitarJerry wrote: »When I'm pressing 155 lbs, damn straight I'm in the squat rack. Deal with it.
negative. Only 155.
160- you have to back to cleaning.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »Actually seated OHP is a exercise that can be done from a bench.
There's a significant difference between standing & seated.
The correct answer isn't fewer people doing exercises that require adjustable height racked equipment, but the gym recognizing the need for more adjustable height racked free weight equipment in the first place.
How many isolation machines sit idle while people are waiting for the 1 or 2 power racks/squat racks? Gyms shouldn't throw money at stuff people don't use and put money where the membership that shows up is going to actually going to use.
The gym needs more racks.
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