The joys of office broscience - misguided food/nutrition advice
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Morning coffee tends to bring out the WTFs in our office.
We have three contenders from today:-
1. The group of three young women currently doing a "cleanse". No caffeine, no added sugar. Nothing but water until lunchtime, when they have a protein shake, then nothing but water until dinner which is veggies. Apparently they do it for nine days every few months.
2. One of the older women in the office came to me and said "I was making food for a shout this morning, and I remembered you like pate, so I made some". I responded with "that's lovely, thank you very much" and went back to my protein cookie. A few minutes later she had actually spread pate on a cracker and was trying to feed it to me...
3. The stick-thin 20 year old guy saying "I never got the whole diet thing". Then when he got jumped on by most of the women, tried to get our resident ironman to support him. Response:- "I'm always on a *bleep* diet". OK - that was more amusing than WTF
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Morning coffee tends to bring out the WTFs in our office.
We have three contenders from today:-
1. The group of three young women currently doing a "cleanse". No caffeine, no added sugar. Nothing but water until lunchtime, when they have a protein shake, then nothing but water until dinner which is veggies. Apparently they do it for nine days every few months.
2. One of the older women in the office came to me and said "I was making food for a shout this morning, and I remembered you like pate, so I made some". I responded with "that's lovely, thank you very much" and went back to my protein cookie. A few minutes later she had actually spread pate on a cracker and was trying to feed it to me...
3. The stick-thin 20 year old guy saying "I never got the whole diet thing". Then when he got jumped on by most of the women, tried to get our resident ironman to support him. Response:- "I'm always on a *bleep* diet". OK - that was more amusing than WTF
Ooops - just mentioned the cleanse that the young'uns are doing to an older, fitness fanatic, colleague. She rolled her eyes and said that they're young and don't understand nutrition etc... so I made a comment about wondering whether I should point out to them that their liver and kidneys do a fantastic job at detoxing, so they don't need to help them along.... fitness fanatic got all in my face because she has a detox shake every morning.
Head... meet desk.0 -
Has anyone else been told that smelling food will take away the craving for it? If so and it worked for you how long did you smell the food before your craving was satisfied?
I don't know about this, but I have found that I can derive a certain amount of satisfaction from watching other people eat foods I'm choosing not to.
Fair warning: people find this creepy.
Lol I'm a waitress and. ..yeah. I creepily enjoy my customers enjoying their meals. Yeah. ....0 -
I got a Twizzler from the break room and got the old, "Are you ALLOWED to eat that?"0
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(alternatively, adjust a tin foil hat and whisper, "what THEY don't know, won't hurt them!" and scamper off mysteriously....)0
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Wellllll.... they are.yogi323 wrote:he tries to tell me that ... sugar from fruit and sugar from table sugar is different.
Table sugar is fruit sugar (fructose) + blood sugar (glucose).
Wikipedia at least links to decent sources.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar
"The table or granulated sugar most customarily used as food is sucrose, a disaccharide.
(In the body, sucrose hydrolyses into fructose and glucose.)"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucrose
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose
"Sucrose is a compound with one molecule of glucose covalently linked to one molecule of fructose."
"Fructose ... is a simple ... monosaccharide ... It is one of the three dietary monosaccharides, along
with glucose and galactose, that are absorbed directly into the bloodstream during digestion."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucose0 -
A few weeks ago two women in my dance class told me they had heard that you shouldn't drink any water while exercising or immediately afterward, because it was dangerous--as in it could kill you. I didn't argue, just tried to let my doubt show on my face and in my voice when I asked why, but they didn't have an answer. I mean, if they had said don't drink a lot of water, that would have been one thing, but no water....?0
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »A few weeks ago two women in my dance class told me they had heard that you shouldn't drink any water while exercising or immediately afterward, because it was dangerous--as in it could kill you. I didn't argue, just tried to let my doubt show on my face and in my voice when I asked why, but they didn't have an answer. I mean, if they had said don't drink a lot of water, that would have been one thing, but no water....?
Print this and give it to them next time:
http://www.mlive.com/health/index.ssf/2012/08/football_players_urged_to_be_c.html0 -
I was given a detox-diet pamphlet and it says that the macro-nutrients are carbohydrates, sugar, and fat.
Apparently, sugar isn't a carbohydrate and protein is a micro-nutrient.0 -
Wellllll.... they are.yogi323 wrote:he tries to tell me that ... sugar from fruit and sugar from table sugar is different.
Table sugar is fruit sugar (fructose) + blood sugar (glucose).
Wikipedia at least links to decent sources.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar
"The table or granulated sugar most customarily used as food is sucrose, a disaccharide.
(In the body, sucrose hydrolyses into fructose and glucose.)"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucrose
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose
"Sucrose is a compound with one molecule of glucose covalently linked to one molecule of fructose."
"Fructose ... is a simple ... monosaccharide ... It is one of the three dietary monosaccharides, along
with glucose and galactose, that are absorbed directly into the bloodstream during digestion."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucose
And fruits often come with a mix of all of the above.0 -
A person in my life is of firm core belief that NO woman despite height age activity level etc should eat over 1200 calories. Somewhere along the line they got that number as the absolute for all.
Sigh
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HappyCampr1 wrote: »Today, a co-worker comes into the break room and asks me why peanut butter is considered junk food. I said it's not. Then she tells me that she and her daughter are going to be doing this 21-day no junk food challenge and that the list of prohibited foods includes peanut butter, Nutella, and other spreads like that. I told her I could understand maybe the Nutella because there's a lot of sugar in it. She asked what was in peanut butter. I said fat. Then she said that must be it and walked out. All I can do is shake my head.
Most supermarket peanut butter has a lot of added sugar. It's nothing like the 'real' stuff. That's probably what they were referring to but it's easier just to ban peanut butter altogether.0 -
HappyCampr1 wrote: »
This goes right along with the older guy at the gym who has taken an interest in my weight loss journey and progress. I've told him I'm in maintenance. He says I must weigh 120lbs. I tell him no, I weigh 153. He's shocked any woman could weigh that much and be so small. Three months pass. I've lost a size while maintaining my weight. He tells me how wonderful I look, teases that I must be getting ready for a show, and then asks how much I weigh. I tell him 153. He's shocked! I really think he thinks all women weigh 120.[/quote]
I'd disappear at side view at 120, hey maybe we on to something; )0 -
I really struggle to know what I should believe when it comes to nutrition. Broscience does seem to infect most websites, even ones I'd consider informative. I've taken to hunting down actual studies done on nutrition whenever I read an article that I'm not sure about.0
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »A few weeks ago two women in my dance class told me they had heard that you shouldn't drink any water while exercising or immediately afterward, because it was dangerous--as in it could kill you. I didn't argue, just tried to let my doubt show on my face and in my voice when I asked why, but they didn't have an answer. I mean, if they had said don't drink a lot of water, that would have been one thing, but no water....?
I think that was a common belief sometime in the 1950s. My dad, who is in his 70's, has told me about having 2 a day football practices in August and not being allowed to drink water during practice because they thought it was bad for you. Apparently they took salt tablets to help retain water and hurried to the corner store after practice where they guzzled juice and Cokes.0 -
Has anyone else been told that smelling food will take away the craving for it? If so and it worked for you how long did you smell the food before your craving was satisfied?
I don't know about this, but I have found that I can derive a certain amount of satisfaction from watching other people eat foods I'm choosing not to.
Fair warning: people find this creepy.
Lol
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true very true.MonsoonStorm wrote: »spacequiztime wrote: »
I don't think I'd mind eating horse but that's illegal in the US.lemurcat12 wrote: »So not to be argumentative, but I think it's interesting that people seem to be thinking that we should EAT our sign (i.e., Pisces eats fish, Taurus eats beef). As a Sagittarius, I'm not really into this idea (although I guess it goes back to how as a Type B I should be drinking the kumis), but my initial assumption was that we would eat as our sign would eat.
Not that that helps me a lot! ;-)
How can I get a conclusive answer on this very important question?
"Pet broscience" is a whole other can of worms
It's illegal... what... why... how...
It's a damn good meat, and I say that as a horse lover. I don't see how a country can outlaw specific meats (other than human of course). As long as it is killed according to law then it really shouldn't matter.
It's not illegal to eat horse in the US. It's illegal to produce for sale, because they've defunded horse slaughter inspections, and you can't sell meat without USDA inspection. You can import it from other countries if you want it. or kill your own horse and eat it. It's not as simple as going to Aldi for ground beef and getting a bonus, though.
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »A few weeks ago two women in my dance class told me they had heard that you shouldn't drink any water while exercising or immediately afterward, because it was dangerous--as in it could kill you. I didn't argue, just tried to let my doubt show on my face and in my voice when I asked why, but they didn't have an answer. I mean, if they had said don't drink a lot of water, that would have been one thing, but no water....? 0
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Is there any truth to touching fat with your bare hands making you fat? Something about it being able to be absorbed through the press in your hands?0
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I wish I would've never announced that I'm starting the weight loss "journey" to my family/friends. They ALL have great advice for me. Don't eat carbs because they make you fat. Don't eat dessert because it makes you fat. Oh, you want to lose 100 pounds!? You will NEVER do that without doing EXTREME exercise! You will NEVER lose weight if you don't exercise. Then my best friend, who's also 100 lbs overweight, is on the "hcg diet" where she is consuming only about 500 cals per day, then is STARVING so she "cheats" on her diet every other day and isn't losing weight. I wonder why!? smh...I am not going to announce my weight loss plans to anyone ever again. Lesson learned. LOL0
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I once worked with a girl that didn't like the smell of any food because she was convinced that she would gain weight from it.
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Don't know if you joking or not....I knew someone who quit working at a chicken factory because she said touching all the chicken fat caused her to gain 30lbs.0 -
Is there any truth to touching fat with your bare hands making you fat? Something about it being able to be absorbed through the press in your hands?Then my best friend, who's also 100 lbs overweight, is on the "hcg diet" where she is consuming only about 500 cals per day, then is STARVING so she "cheats" on her diet every other day and isn't losing weight. I wonder why!?
@fr3smyl; @icanplay3; I did the HCG diet years ago. It promises 40 pounds in 40 days, and it delivered . . . I think I lost a bit MORE than a pound a day. (I stuck to it religiously, though)
When I did it, the diet was administered by a doctor, who insisted on seeing me at least once a week. In addition to eating no more (and no less!) than 500 calories, she insisted that I change all soaps, shampoos, deodorants, toothpaste, etc. to ones that have NO oils or fats. (And some of them were pretty hard to find).
I don't think I subscribe to the notion that TOUCHING fat can make you gain weight . . . at least not much. But this was at least one physician who DID subscribe to that. (Or maybe it was just a mental thing, to make sure I trimmed ALL the fat off the chicken breasts)0 -
I wish I would've never announced that I'm starting the weight loss "journey" to my family/friends. They ALL have great advice for me. Don't eat carbs because they make you fat. Don't eat dessert because it makes you fat. Oh, you want to lose 100 pounds!? You will NEVER do that without doing EXTREME exercise! You will NEVER lose weight if you don't exercise. Then my best friend, who's also 100 lbs overweight, is on the "hcg diet" where she is consuming only about 500 cals per day, then is STARVING so she "cheats" on her diet every other day and isn't losing weight. I wonder why!? smh...I am not going to announce my weight loss plans to anyone ever again. Lesson learned. LOL
Trust me, it wouldn't have mattered. I never said a thing, and when it became obvious I had lost a bunch of weight, the questions started.
What was I doing? For how long? Did I exercise? Did I know that the only way to lose weight is to avoid X food or only eat at specific times of the day? Surely I couldn't possibly be eating that piece of pie on my diet? Etc, ad nauseum.
Meanwhile, I'm wondering if they thought I had some kind of extreme lipo done since I couldn't possibly have lost weight doing the things I'd done and was still doing.
More than a year later, I still get those comments from the same people.0 -
I rub coconut oil into my skin daily and use a homemade scrub containing either olive oil or coconut oil twice a week and have managed to hit my goal weight.0
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I wish I would've never announced that I'm starting the weight loss "journey" to my family/friends. They ALL have great advice for me. Don't eat carbs because they make you fat. Don't eat dessert because it makes you fat. Oh, you want to lose 100 pounds!? You will NEVER do that without doing EXTREME exercise! You will NEVER lose weight if you don't exercise. Then my best friend, who's also 100 lbs overweight, is on the "hcg diet" where she is consuming only about 500 cals per day, then is STARVING so she "cheats" on her diet every other day and isn't losing weight. I wonder why!? smh...I am not going to announce my weight loss plans to anyone ever again. Lesson learned. LOL
Trust me, it wouldn't have mattered. I never said a thing, and when it became obvious I had lost a bunch of weight, the questions started.
What was I doing? For how long? Did I exercise? Did I know that the only way to lose weight is to avoid X food or only eat at specific times of the day? Surely I couldn't possibly be eating that piece of pie on my diet? Etc, ad nauseum.
Meanwhile, I'm wondering if they thought I had some kind of extreme lipo done since I couldn't possibly have lost weight doing the things I'd done and was still doing.
More than a year later, I still get those comments from the same people.
Trying to lose weight/get fit/get healthy is like having to live a double life or have a secret identity, I swear.
I actively avoid discussing my eating habits, my workouts, my gains/losses, because EVERYONE has some sort of opinion they want to talk at you.
Lets not even get into if you just want to lose a little excess weight if you're not extremely overweight or something. Then you have to get into the "Yes, I KNOW I'm not 'fat', I'm just trying to get in better shape NO I'm not commenting on your eating habits or calling YOU fat, oh god why are we now talking about YOUR weight I didn't even wanna talk about this in the first place NO thank you I don't really even like cupcakes honestly no SERIOUSLY it isn't because I'm trying to be 'so perfect' I just-"0 -
I was told today that I should never allow my heart rate to go above 120 while exercising. I replied that I lost most of my weight (down over 110 pounds) was with cardio and weight lifting. She told me to stop because it does not work. Mmmmm.0
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