The joys of office broscience - misguided food/nutrition advice

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  • fr3smyl
    fr3smyl Posts: 1,418 Member
    I am curious about that now. I know one guy who eats a spoon of peanut butter every night because he says the slow breakdown is better than eating a sugar laden nighttime snack.
  • Ms_LisaKay
    Ms_LisaKay Posts: 103 Member
    Bobbie63 wrote: »
    So, ok I haven't read much in the past few years, but, as long as I can remember, eating late was bad, and carbs (except slow) such as breads, potatoes and such were bad as they turned to sugar much faster than veggies or other things that had carbs in them. So, what is the easiest book to read to find out what all the dieting things I was told, are now not true.

    When you find the answer to this, let me know. There are SO many things I have absorbed over a lifetime that these days, I don't even know WHAT to believe.

  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Examine.com is a pretty good site that looks at a lot of the dieting myths and other questions and analyzes the studies. It also provides citations.
  • csman49
    csman49 Posts: 1,100 Member
    Work colleague, she wants to slim up before her holiday...
    She doesn't want to exercise
    She cant eat fat, because she doesnt want to get fat
    She cant eat carbs, because apparently they are bad
    She cant eat protein, because she doesn't want to get muscles

    I just let her get on with it......
  • fr3smyl
    fr3smyl Posts: 1,418 Member
    csman49 wrote: »
    Work colleague, she wants to slim up before her holiday...
    She doesn't want to exercise
    She cant eat fat, because she doesnt want to get fat
    She cant eat carbs, because apparently they are bad
    She cant eat protein, because she doesn't want to get muscles

    I just let her get on with it......

    Is she one of those Venusions (I think that's how yoo spell it). The only eat sunlight and drink air. :/
  • anglyn1
    anglyn1 Posts: 1,802 Member
    My coworkers are going on one of those MLM shake diets because they need to get to 130 lbs. to be a size 6. According to them 130 always equals a size 6 regardless of height, body shape, or composition.
  • s2mikey
    s2mikey Posts: 146 Member
    edited May 2015
    It is such a maze out there when it comes to diet and fitness info. No wonder people struggle so badly with this. Oh my freeging God..... lol

    Its like half the studies out there refute and claim to disprove the other half of the studies. Grains are bad, grains are good. Fat is bad, fat is good. Carbs are bad, carbs are good. Eat lots of protein, dont eat too much protein or you'll get kidney stones. Cardio causes fat retention and catabolism, cardio is the onyl way to really burn fat. High intesity cardio is good, High intensity cardio is too hard on your body/nervous system. High reps low weight is the best, Low reps high weight is better.

    Good luck.
  • ar9179
    ar9179 Posts: 374 Member
    JaneiR36 wrote: »
    Lizzy622 wrote: »
    A lady I know won't buy any more fresh farm eggs from us because most of them are double yolkers. Double yolkers are bad because they have double the cholesterol and so they are bad eggs. She had to throw away half of the eggs last time. Seriously....that's what she told me.
    She should have sent them to my house. A hawk got my mom's chickens so no more fresh eggs

    Birds eat birds????? :o

    Birds eat ANYTHING! Our chickens would fight over frogs, snails, mice - anything that was unfortunate enough to venture into their run.

    The look on my cousin's girlfriend's face was priceless when I told her that chickens are NOT vegetarians, during a conversation about buying eggs. Never mind that "cage free" is not what you think...they aren't running around in the sunshine all day. Those houses are disgusting. I love it when I can get fresh eggs from yard chickens. DH is weirded out by the deep color of the yolk...that's a varied diet!

    I get the "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" from DH. I don't understand the logic of eating when I'm not hungry because of a human construct we call "time".

    My grandmother insists that my diet is wrong. I don't eat in the morning (most important), I eat a big dinner (should be the smallest meal of the day), I eat plenty of fat and protein and 3 times a day (I should have 5-6 small meals and very little fat/protein). I've still lost weight doing all the wrong things! This from a woman who eats sweets all day, almost exclusively. She's at a healthy weight, though, so her diet is better than mine ;) I side-step with the CICO equation but she ignores that part.
  • DaveAkeman
    DaveAkeman Posts: 296 Member
    csman49 wrote: »
    Work colleague, she wants to slim up before her holiday...
    She doesn't want to exercise
    She cant eat fat, because she doesnt want to get fat
    She cant eat carbs, because apparently they are bad
    She cant eat protein, because she doesn't want to get muscles

    I just let her get on with it......

    If she can't eat fat, carbs, or protein, then she ought to have no problem losing weight quickly!!!
  • DaveinSK
    DaveinSK Posts: 86 Member
    DaveAkeman wrote: »
    csman49 wrote: »
    Work colleague, she wants to slim up before her holiday...
    She doesn't want to exercise
    She cant eat fat, because she doesnt want to get fat
    She cant eat carbs, because apparently they are bad
    She cant eat protein, because she doesn't want to get muscles

    I just let her get on with it......

    If she can't eat fat, carbs, or protein, then she ought to have no problem losing weight quickly!!!

    She was at a 40oz bottle of Jack for maintenance, but now that she's trying to bulk up she's tossing a couple six packs of a low carb beer in with dinner.
  • Ms_LisaKay
    Ms_LisaKay Posts: 103 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Examine.com is a pretty good site that looks at a lot of the dieting myths and other questions and analyzes the studies. It also provides citations.

    Bookmarked. Thanks, @lemurcat12 ! I will definitely be following the links there for a while.

  • mizzlarabee
    mizzlarabee Posts: 134 Member
    Ms_LisaKay wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Examine.com is a pretty good site that looks at a lot of the dieting myths and other questions and analyzes the studies. It also provides citations.

    Bookmarked. Thanks, @lemurcat12 ! I will definitely be following the links there for a while.

    This! Examine.com is a goldmine of information :#
  • fr3smyl
    fr3smyl Posts: 1,418 Member
    Just checked out examine.com myself. Good info.
  • fr3smyl
    fr3smyl Posts: 1,418 Member
    anglyn1 wrote: »
    My coworkers are going on one of those MLM shake diets because they need to get to 130 lbs. to be a size 6. According to them 130 always equals a size 6 regardless of height, body shape, or composition.

    Yeah I think I read that somewhere...
  • punkrockgoth
    punkrockgoth Posts: 534 Member
    I was in a cardio kickboxing class and we were doing some stuff with weights. To keep us motivated, the instructor told us to really work those shoulders, the pain would be worth it... because we were making our shoulders bigger, which makes our waists get smaller.

    Further proving you don't actually need any qualifications to be a fitness instructor.
  • Just_Ceci
    Just_Ceci Posts: 5,926 Member
    fr3smyl wrote: »
    anglyn1 wrote: »
    My coworkers are going on one of those MLM shake diets because they need to get to 130 lbs. to be a size 6. According to them 130 always equals a size 6 regardless of height, body shape, or composition.

    Yeah I think I read that somewhere...

    I'm a freak. At 135, I'm a size 2.
  • staticsplit
    staticsplit Posts: 538 Member
    Someone tweeted me yesterday that carbs would kill me. *eyeroll*

    As a vegetarian, I'm pretty sure not eating carbs is more likely to kill me.
  • DaveAkeman
    DaveAkeman Posts: 296 Member
    DaveinSK wrote: »
    DaveAkeman wrote: »
    csman49 wrote: »
    Work colleague, she wants to slim up before her holiday...
    She doesn't want to exercise
    She cant eat fat, because she doesnt want to get fat
    She cant eat carbs, because apparently they are bad
    She cant eat protein, because she doesn't want to get muscles

    I just let her get on with it......

    If she can't eat fat, carbs, or protein, then she ought to have no problem losing weight quickly!!!

    She was at a 40oz bottle of Jack for maintenance, but now that she's trying to bulk up she's tossing a couple six packs of a low carb beer in with dinner.

    Good one! I forgot about the fourth macronutrient. I'm glad we have that backup for people who can't eat the other three.
  • Treece68
    Treece68 Posts: 780 Member
    fr3smyl wrote: »
    Lizzy622 wrote: »
    fr3smyl wrote: »
    Is there any truth to touching fat with your bare hands making you fat? Something about it being able to be absorbed through the press in your hands?
    That's why I gained weight this winter. I put coconut oil on my skin.

    Don't know if you joking or not....I knew someone who quit working at a chicken factory because she said touching all the chicken fat caused her to gain 30lbs.

    Bless your heart ... no this can not happen
  • LJgfg
    LJgfg Posts: 81 Member
    edited May 2015


    Lets not even get into if you just want to lose a little excess weight if you're not extremely overweight or something. Then you have to get into the "Yes, I KNOW I'm not 'fat', I'm just trying to get in better shape NO I'm not commenting on your eating habits or calling YOU fat, oh god why are we now talking about YOUR weight I didn't even wanna talk about this in the first place NO thank you I don't really even like cupcakes honestly no SERIOUSLY it isn't because I'm trying to be 'so perfect' I just-"

    It happens even if you ARE extremely overweight. I am 5'6" and been at or around 250 to 270 for years now. And every single time I vaguely have brought up wanting to eat better, or lose a little weight, I've gotten bombarded by the "Oh no! You might be a little chubby, but you're not FAT!" And it's always a signal to my mom to push twice as hard to get me to eat a cookie, etc - because it's wrong to starve yourself. :::eye roll::: She's utterly terrified that any reduction in eating will immediately lead to anorexia. *sigh*

    Hey, people, I'm fat. That's okay. It's a description - not a definition. And I'm not staying here - no matter how much my mom fears I'll somehow fade away into thin air B)

    Re: the Astrology diet...hmm...I'm a Leo - guess I have to start tracking down some wildebeest...that should burn up some cal's!
  • fr3smyl
    fr3smyl Posts: 1,418 Member
    Just_Ceci wrote: »
    fr3smyl wrote: »
    anglyn1 wrote: »
    My coworkers are going on one of those MLM shake diets because they need to get to 130 lbs. to be a size 6. According to them 130 always equals a size 6 regardless of height, body shape, or composition.

    Yeah I think I read that somewhere...

    I'm a freak. At 135, I'm a size 2.
    Sacrilege!
  • fr3smyl
    fr3smyl Posts: 1,418 Member
    Treece68 wrote: »
    fr3smyl wrote: »
    Lizzy622 wrote: »
    fr3smyl wrote: »
    Is there any truth to touching fat with your bare hands making you fat? Something about it being able to be absorbed through the press in your hands?
    That's why I gained weight this winter. I put coconut oil on my skin.

    Don't know if you joking or not....I knew someone who quit working at a chicken factory because she said touching all the chicken fat caused her to gain 30lbs.

    Bless your heart ... no this can not happen

    lol! I thought so. They did a news report about it and everything. And of course the News Reporters wouldn't lie. :s
  • Lizzy622
    Lizzy622 Posts: 3,705 Member
    Someone tweeted me yesterday that carbs would kill me. *eyeroll*

    As a vegetarian, I'm pretty sure not eating carbs is more likely to kill me.

    So does breathing air and drinking water. We all have to die sometime.

  • hanksmom79
    hanksmom79 Posts: 85 Member
    fr3smyl wrote: »
    They did a news report about it and everything. And of course the News Reporters wouldn't lie. :s

    Can someone PLEASE find this news clip??? :D

  • fr3smyl
    fr3smyl Posts: 1,418 Member
    hanksmom79 wrote: »
    fr3smyl wrote: »
    They did a news report about it and everything. And of course the News Reporters wouldn't lie. :s

    Can someone PLEASE find this news clip??? :D

    I will look for it. It has to be at least ten years old by now.
  • fr3smyl
    fr3smyl Posts: 1,418 Member
    Having trouble finding article it might be 20 years old instead of ten. :| But I found some information I think they were basing their facts on. I guys it's been a belief long before this. I'm not going to write all of it cause it's pretty long but
    Much debate and fluctuation or contratiety of opinion has existed as to whether. ..medical substances dissolved in a fat could be absorbed into and through the skin. That animal fat can penetrate the skin had been indisputably proven by a number of clinical and experimental observations....Animal fats are capable of passing into the organism by way of the skin, and influencing local, or even general nutrition.
    John Shoemaker, A.M., M.D.



    My aunt will not touch raw chicken skin without gloves to this day.
  • JPW1990
    JPW1990 Posts: 2,424 Member
    They were talking on the radio this morning about a job fair going on in a city nearby, and they rattled off the names of some of the employers - most of them big deal corporations or factories in the area. It Works was on the list. I wonder how many poor *kitten* they're going to sucker into thinking it's a real job with a real product when they could be applying at the other booths that have actual paying jobs.
  • fr3smyl
    fr3smyl Posts: 1,418 Member
    I thought long and hard about it and I'm only going to long the calories I put in my mouth. It's seems too hard to log the ones I touch. I'm not even sure the calorie count of lotion.
    I guess it depends on the brand and how much you use.
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    I was in a cardio kickboxing class and we were doing some stuff with weights. To keep us motivated, the instructor told us to really work those shoulders, the pain would be worth it... because we were making our shoulders bigger, which makes our waists get smaller.

    Further proving you don't actually need any qualifications to be a fitness instructor.

    Having bigger shoulders gives the illusion of a smaller waist... So not technically wrong
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    fr3smyl wrote: »
    I thought long and hard about it and I'm only going to long the calories I put in my mouth. It's seems too hard to log the ones I touch. I'm not even sure the calorie count of lotion.
    I guess it depends on the brand and how much you use.

    Well, if you really want to kick logging accuracy to the curb and totally sabotage your entire fitness journey then go for it. You gonna pretend those calories you inhaled sniffing the office donuts didn't happen either?
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