Documentary Fed up
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I've been doing keto, which reflects the ideas shown here somewhat, and I've lost almost 50 pounds in 6 months, which is 1/3 of the way to a healthy BMI. I have HAD PCOS, diabetes, fatty liver, etc. Exercise just hurts and makes me want to eat to feel better. When I get smaller and it stops hurting, I will exercise.0
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »Yeah people need to cut down on their sugar. I liked the show.
Eating crap like a processed to heck Snickers bar and 3oz Coke will destroy your efforts. That's like 600 calories added with a bunch of sugar.
I've cut WAAAYY down on sugar (in turn calories in general) and have lost almost 40 lbs.
I've lost almost 40 pounds. I eat gelato and cookies. I eat all of my calories in moderation.
Great. Not for me. I don't eat excess sugar and processed foods for the most part. Maybe once a week I'll grab something terrible to eat. Like last night I had half an ice cream cookie.
I've come to the realization what works for me and what I want for my daughter's. I was never taught how to eat by my parents. Just bull crap like processed blue berry muffins for breakfast and processed cupcakes for a dessert.
So if that's stuff you want to eat and can loose weight off it, cool. Just not what I want anymore and I don't want for my kids.
Peek at my diary (it's public) and check the proportion of my serving to the rest of my intake.
You might be surprised.
There's a key word in your post. I've bolded it.
I'm not having dessert tonight. I've left room, if I want, I could have a cookie if I change my mind later. I have the calories for it.
I don't need to peak at it. You're are hitting your goal. That's great. My goal is not more than 40 grams of sugar a day. A single chips ahoy cookie is 6 grams of processed sugar. I avoid processed stuff as much as possible because that's my goal. In turn, my weight loss. I started MFP with weight loss only in mind. Now it's much more.0 -
Mamapeach, I really like the way you put things. Having a positive attitude towards all foods, while still reaching weight loss goals, is what it’s all about IMO. I don’t see any food as crap, and crap itself isn’t food, so you know, that works out.
I need to get myself a bag of those mini-Snickers. I like being able to more easily control the serving size. And Adamitri, that looks… so yum
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It's not all sugar. I eat fruit without binging and honey . . . .
I guess what I'm saying is, I am not a rare snowflake as they say . . . there are others like me. So, there are others who might find "Fed Up" apropos.0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »Yeah people need to cut down on their sugar. I liked the show.
Eating crap like a processed to heck Snickers bar and 3oz Coke will destroy your efforts. That's like 600 calories added with a bunch of sugar.
I've cut WAAAYY down on sugar (in turn calories in general) and have lost almost 40 lbs.
I've lost almost 40 pounds. I eat gelato and cookies. I eat all of my calories in moderation.
Great. Not for me. I don't eat excess sugar and processed foods for the most part. Maybe once a week I'll grab something terrible to eat. Like last night I had half an ice cream cookie.
I've come to the realization what works for me and what I want for my daughter's. I was never taught how to eat by my parents. Just bull crap like processed blue berry muffins for breakfast and processed cupcakes for a dessert.
So if that's stuff you want to eat and can loose weight off it, cool. Just not what I want anymore and I don't want for my kids.
Peek at my diary (it's public) and check the proportion of my serving to the rest of my intake.
You might be surprised.
There's a key word in your post. I've bolded it.
I'm not having dessert tonight. I've left room, if I want, I could have a cookie if I change my mind later. I have the calories for it.
I don't need to peak at it. You're are hitting your goal. That's great. My goal is not more than 40 grams of sugar a day. A single chips ahoy cookie is 6 grams of processed sugar. I avoid processed stuff as much as possible because that's my goal. In turn, my weight loss. I started MFP with weight loss only in mind. Now it's much more.
Guess what? Mine's around the same goal because I'm older and short and have a low calorie allowance. Some days I go over, but I also eat berries, get protein from dairy (I'm a vegetarian), and eat vegetables. I still never egregiously exceed my sugar goals.
And yet, I eat gelato and cookies.
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Mamapeach, I really like the way you put things. Having a positive attitude towards all foods, while still reaching weight loss goals, is what it’s all about IMO. I don’t see any food as crap, and crap itself isn’t food, so you know, that works out.
I need to get myself a bag of those mini-Snickers. I like being able to more easily control the serving size. And Adamitri, that looks… so yum
Thanks! Being 52 and short makes for a tiny calorie allowance. An 80 calorie treat? Super easy to fit into a day.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »Yeah people need to cut down on their sugar. I liked the show.
Eating crap like a processed to heck Snickers bar and 3oz Coke will destroy your efforts. That's like 600 calories added with a bunch of sugar.
I've cut WAAAYY down on sugar (in turn calories in general) and have lost almost 40 lbs.
I've lost almost 40 pounds. I eat gelato and cookies. I eat all of my calories in moderation.
Great. Not for me. I don't eat excess sugar and processed foods for the most part. Maybe once a week I'll grab something terrible to eat. Like last night I had half an ice cream cookie.
I've come to the realization what works for me and what I want for my daughter's. I was never taught how to eat by my parents. Just bull crap like processed blue berry muffins for breakfast and processed cupcakes for a dessert.
So if that's stuff you want to eat and can loose weight off it, cool. Just not what I want anymore and I don't want for my kids.
Peek at my diary (it's public) and check the proportion of my serving to the rest of my intake.
You might be surprised.
There's a key word in your post. I've bolded it.
I'm not having dessert tonight. I've left room, if I want, I could have a cookie if I change my mind later. I have the calories for it.
I don't need to peak at it. You're are hitting your goal. That's great. My goal is not more than 40 grams of sugar a day. A single chips ahoy cookie is 6 grams of processed sugar. I avoid processed stuff as much as possible because that's my goal. In turn, my weight loss. I started MFP with weight loss only in mind. Now it's much more.
Guess what? Mine's around the same goal because I'm older and short and have a low calorie allowance. Some days I go over, but I also eat berries, get protein from dairy (I'm a vegetarian), and eat vegetables. I still never egregiously exceed my sugar goals.
And yet, I eat gelato and cookies.
Great. You aren't getting what I'm saying. I've told you great and keep doing what you want with it.
Since you keep replying to what you do, I'll again say what I do. I stay away from processed foods.
So there is zero reason to keep running circles. Do what makes you happy.0 -
HelloTygerlily wrote: »I've been doing keto, which reflects the ideas shown here somewhat, and I've lost almost 50 pounds in 6 months, which is 1/3 of the way to a healthy BMI. I have HAD PCOS, diabetes, fatty liver, etc. Exercise just hurts and makes me want to eat to feel better. When I get smaller and it stops hurting, I will exercise.
I have psoriatic arthritis and fibromyalgia/CFS, so I get the idea of exercise hurting.
Waiting until it doesn't hurt might not be the answer, though.
When I was first diagnosed with the arthritis, of course I read everything I could, and one of the most often repeated recommendations was to exercise. Well, here I was, with an already existing medical condition aggravated by exercise (the CFS, exercise fatigued me horribly)... what to do?
I grabbed my cane, and went for a short walk. I only managed 10 minutes, it hurt, but I did it. I took a nap that day. The next day, I grabbed my cane and walked again. I kept going out again and again. Eventually, the fatigue abated, my time walking increased, my muscles built up, it stopped hurting. In fact, everything felt better for doing it. It's still that way.
I have times where my chronic migraines (yeah, I have those too) get in the way of my desire to exercise, and I really feel it when that happens. I gotta work with what I have, though. Walking, ever increasing my speed and incline on the treadmill, and strength training have greatly decreased my pain levels and increased my energy.
I don't know the specific source of your pain, but hopefully you've found something useful in all of my rambling.
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I'm not familiar with Katie Couric but this movie definitely gave me a very negative opinion of her. The bias was so overwhelming it seemed like a parody at times. There was one scene where she's interviewing someone, and the interviewee takes a long pause to consider a question she asked before she abruptly cut to a new scene to make it appear that he didn't know what he was talking about. I almost stopped watching then, what a disgusting tactic to use in a documentary. The families they interviewed were clueless about what they were doing (switching to Lean Pockets and low fat crackers while constantly eating fat free cereal to lose weight) and that kind of misinformation is a direct result of this sort of film. One family went on a 'sugar detox' for six weeks or so, lost some weight then gained it all back. It really seemed to contradict the message of the rest of the film (calories aren't real, sugar makes you fat and if you're overweight you're a helpless victim of the corporations). The only thing I appreciated about this documentary was that it disputed the myth that healthier foods are more expensive. This film was not made to educate people, it was made to coddle feelings, shift blame, and point fingers.0
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Watched the movie but it was hard to take it seriously when one of the opening statements in the beginning was, "... not all calories are equal..."
.... I use to be 100% paleo and in the end I started gaining weight. I now do CICO and eat potato chips, chocolate chip cookies, bbq ribs, and anything I want. I'm loosing about a pound a week... but according to the logic, "a calorie is not a calorie," I should be fat now and I should have never gained weight when I was, "eating clean,"
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Yeah people need to cut down on their sugar. I liked the show.
Eating crap like a processed to heck Snickers bar and 3oz Coke will destroy your efforts. That's like 600 calories added with a bunch of sugar.
I've cut WAAAYY down on sugar (in turn calories in general) and have lost almost 40 lbs.
No kidding a Snickers and a coke would carry calories. It's about knowing how to fit them into your day, week, or month.
600 calories?
A full snickers and a whole 3oz of coke would be about 300 calories. If you decided to drink the whole can...than ya it's about 400.
I'm not sure why you quoted or replied to my post. Do you even realize what I was getting at?
You stated that food "processed to heck" like a snickers bar and 3oz of coke will destroy your efforts. I'm saying no it won't if you know how to plan it into your diet........that and your estimate is basically double how many calories are actually in said example.
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Fell asleep the first time I tried watching it because it was ridiculous then watched it again to have some knowledge of what was in it. All I really took away from it is people need to take responsiblity for their own actions- overeating is no one's fault except your own.0
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Yeah people need to cut down on their sugar. I liked the show.
Eating crap like a processed to heck Snickers bar and 3oz Coke will destroy your efforts. That's like 600 calories added with a bunch of sugar.
I've cut WAAAYY down on sugar (in turn calories in general) and have lost almost 40 lbs.
No kidding a Snickers and a coke would carry calories. It's about knowing how to fit them into your day, week, or month.
600 calories?
A full snickers and a whole 3oz of coke would be about 300 calories. If you decided to drink the whole can...than ya it's about 400.
I'm not sure why you quoted or replied to my post. Do you even realize what I was getting at?
You stated that food "processed to heck" like a snickers bar and 3oz of coke will destroy your efforts. I'm saying no it won't if you know how to plan it into your diet........that and your estimate is basically double how many calories are actually in said example.
I mean 32oz.0 -
Yeah people need to cut down on their sugar. I liked the show.
Eating crap like a processed to heck Snickers bar and 3oz Coke will destroy your efforts. That's like 600 calories added with a bunch of sugar.
I've cut WAAAYY down on sugar (in turn calories in general) and have lost almost 40 lbs.
I had a pretty good outcome eating snickers bars, fast food, pizza, chips, desserts etc etc-lost almost 60lbs and got my glucose number out of the pre-diabetic range and into the normal range (where its stayed for two years now). It was like magic, or maybe it was that calorie deficit thing I did
And look-you did the calorie deficit thing too! Wonders never cease-we both lost weight doing that. Go figure!
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mlawrence911 wrote: »I'm actually watching it right now. I think it's very accurate. When I review my diet for the weeks when I haven't lost weight, I'm usually under my calories every day, but over on fat and sugars.
From what I understand every gram of fat is 9 calories and every gram of sugar is 4 so if you went 30 over on fat and 25 over on sugar you would have consumed 370 extra calories, so in actuality it's the calories in the fat and sugar that aren't being counted that might be screwing you up not the actual fat and sugar themselves
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Yeah people need to cut down on their sugar. I liked the show.
Eating crap like a processed to heck Snickers bar and 3oz Coke will destroy your efforts. That's like 600 calories added with a bunch of sugar.
I've cut WAAAYY down on sugar (in turn calories in general) and have lost almost 40 lbs.
No kidding a Snickers and a coke would carry calories. It's about knowing how to fit them into your day, week, or month.
600 calories?
A full snickers and a whole 3oz of coke would be about 300 calories. If you decided to drink the whole can...than ya it's about 400.
I'm not sure why you quoted or replied to my post. Do you even realize what I was getting at?
You stated that food "processed to heck" like a snickers bar and 3oz of coke will destroy your efforts. I'm saying no it won't if you know how to plan it into your diet........that and your estimate is basically double how many calories are actually in said example.
I mean 32oz.
3 oz or 32 oz it doesn't matter, if you can work it in and meet your goals then it wont destroy anything. Some people calorie intake is higher than other people so they get to enjoy a bit more food.0 -
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Asher_Ethan wrote: »Watched the movie but it was hard to take it seriously when one of the opening statements in the beginning was, "... not all calories are equal..."
.... I use to be 100% paleo and in the end I started gaining weight. I now do CICO and eat potato chips, chocolate chip cookies, bbq ribs, and anything I want. I'm loosing about a pound a week... but according to the logic, "a calorie is not a calorie," I should be fat now and I should have never gained weight when I was, "eating clean,"
I think it misrepresents the truth to say that it is calories that aren't equal. A calorie is just a unit of measurement, so they'd better be equal or it doesn't make sense. But I don't think we're correct to ignore the thermogenic effect of food, especially when we have people weighing their food to get the calorie content correct.0 -
i am watching it now, I am 15mins in, so what's the problem with this documentary?
ETA: More and more of these "sugar" type documentaries are coming out, they all say pretty much the same thing. If anyone can provide a link to a documentary that suggest, "we eat all the processed carbs/sugar we're fine." it will be appreciated.
A fun one is Fat Head-a comedian decides to take on the documentary Super Size Me and only eats fast food-ends up not only losing weight, but also improves his blood panels in the process 0 -
i am watching it now, I am 15mins in, so what's the problem with this documentary?
ETA: More and more of these "sugar" type documentaries are coming out, they all say pretty much the same thing. If anyone can provide a link to a documentary that suggest, "we eat all the processed carbs/sugar we're fine." it will be appreciated.
C'mon. You know quite well that that's not fear-mongery enough to sell.0 -
Sarasmaintaining wrote: »i am watching it now, I am 15mins in, so what's the problem with this documentary?
ETA: More and more of these "sugar" type documentaries are coming out, they all say pretty much the same thing. If anyone can provide a link to a documentary that suggest, "we eat all the processed carbs/sugar we're fine." it will be appreciated.
A fun one is Fat Head-a comedian decides to take on the documentary Super Size Me and only eats fast food-ends up not only losing weight, but also improves his blood panels in the process
Fat head was pushing limiting carbs.
Fed Up, thus far is pushing reducing sugar(which is a carb).
So it's pretty much the same thing.
And that's the thing. If you are making a documentary about food, or anything else, then you have an agenda. I mean why else make the documentary if not to highlight some perceived injustice or wrongdoing? And food documentaries are the worst of the bunch. For a great, and horrible at the same time documentary try 'fat, sick & almost dead' or the no-fact based 'GMO OMG' (and isn't that the best title ever?)0 -
Lukyanenko wrote: »Sarasmaintaining wrote: »i am watching it now, I am 15mins in, so what's the problem with this documentary?
ETA: More and more of these "sugar" type documentaries are coming out, they all say pretty much the same thing. If anyone can provide a link to a documentary that suggest, "we eat all the processed carbs/sugar we're fine." it will be appreciated.
A fun one is Fat Head-a comedian decides to take on the documentary Super Size Me and only eats fast food-ends up not only losing weight, but also improves his blood panels in the process
Fat head was pushing limiting carbs.
Fed Up, thus far is pushing reducing sugar(which is a carb).
So it's pretty much the same thing.
And that's the thing. If you are making a documentary about food, or anything else, then you have an agenda. I mean why else make the documentary if not to highlight some perceived injustice or wrongdoing? And food documentaries are the worst of the bunch. For a great, and horrible at the same time documentary try 'fat, sick & almost dead' or the no-fact based 'GMO OMG' (and isn't that the best title ever?)
I am well aware of "Fat Sick And Nearly Dead" documentary. That mostly pushes a vegan diet.
No. It doesn't. It pushes a "juice cleanse" and jucing.
He wants people to join his site and buy his juicers and recipe books for juice. He also does a 15 day and 30 day juice cleanse you can buy to get tips/recipes...
http://shop.rebootwithjoe.com/collections/juicers
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asflatasapancake wrote: »I haven't seen the documentary. What happens if I don't reduce my sugar intake?
Eventually...you die0 -
asflatasapancake wrote: »I haven't seen the documentary. What happens if I don't reduce my sugar intake?
We can predict, with 100% certainty, that you will die someday.0 -
asflatasapancake wrote: »I haven't seen the documentary. What happens if I don't reduce my sugar intake?
You will live forever, never get cancer and never age.0 -
asflatasapancake wrote: »I haven't seen the documentary. What happens if I don't reduce my sugar intake?
you get da beetus0 -
ha I was going to say at the end of my post... "it has a while since I seen fat sick and nearly dead, but this is what i remember of it." But from your post, there is obviously an agenda.rainbowbow wrote: »Lukyanenko wrote: »Sarasmaintaining wrote: »i am watching it now, I am 15mins in, so what's the problem with this documentary?
ETA: More and more of these "sugar" type documentaries are coming out, they all say pretty much the same thing. If anyone can provide a link to a documentary that suggest, "we eat all the processed carbs/sugar we're fine." it will be appreciated.
A fun one is Fat Head-a comedian decides to take on the documentary Super Size Me and only eats fast food-ends up not only losing weight, but also improves his blood panels in the process
Fat head was pushing limiting carbs.
Fed Up, thus far is pushing reducing sugar(which is a carb).
So it's pretty much the same thing.
And that's the thing. If you are making a documentary about food, or anything else, then you have an agenda. I mean why else make the documentary if not to highlight some perceived injustice or wrongdoing? And food documentaries are the worst of the bunch. For a great, and horrible at the same time documentary try 'fat, sick & almost dead' or the no-fact based 'GMO OMG' (and isn't that the best title ever?)
I am well aware of "Fat Sick And Nearly Dead" documentary. That mostly pushes a vegan diet.
No. It doesn't. It pushes a "juice cleanse" and jucing.
He wants people to join his site and buy his juicers and recipe books for juice.
http://shop.rebootwithjoe.com/collections/juicers
duh.
yep. Atleast in this other documentary they aren't blatantly selling a physical product.0 -
Sarasmaintaining wrote: »i am watching it now, I am 15mins in, so what's the problem with this documentary?
ETA: More and more of these "sugar" type documentaries are coming out, they all say pretty much the same thing. If anyone can provide a link to a documentary that suggest, "we eat all the processed carbs/sugar we're fine." it will be appreciated.
A fun one is Fat Head-a comedian decides to take on the documentary Super Size Me and only eats fast food-ends up not only losing weight, but also improves his blood panels in the process
Fat head was pushing limiting carbs.
Fed Up, thus far is pushing reducing sugar(which is a carb).
So it's pretty much the same thing.
It's been a while since I've watched it but if I remember correctly-he tracked both calories and carbs. I'll have to re-watch it to make sure though
eta-about the documentary, from Wikipedia- During the film, Naughton goes on an all-fast-food diet, mainly eating food from McDonald's. For his daily dietary intake, he aims to keep his calories to around 2,000 and his carbohydrates to around 100 grams per day, but he does not restrict fat at all. He ends up eating about 100 grams of fat per day, of which about 50 grams are saturated. He also decides to walk six nights a week, instead of his usual three. After a month eating that way, he loses 12 pounds and his total cholesterol goes down. His HDL does go down, often thought to be undesirable.
So yes, he does track his calories throughout the experiment, as well as his carbs. And he also doubles the amount of exercise he was doing, which burned more calories....0
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