Self Diagnosed Sugar Addicts Sure Do Lie A Lot
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Is it getting riled up by semantics OR
Is it not wanting to foster a way of thinking that's ultimately detrimental to weight loss?
I personally think that saying one is addicted to sugar is blame shifting. I don't think that meaningful progress with any sort of ongoing weight problem can be made until one is able to accept responsibility for their own behavior with food.
If you're still finding ways to blame the food, you're still going to fail in the end.
I know that sounds cold, but that's been my experience, and that's been what I've observed over time with other dieters.
This is NOT to say that one cannot be cognizant of the fact that sugar is a problem for them and chose to give it up while owning responsibility for their behavior. The two positions aren't mutually exclusive. I don't think people doing this generally go around saying they're addicted, though.0 -
Looncove_Farm wrote: »Ok so I would chance to guess when someone says they are addicted to sweets (sugar) that maybe its not the sugar itself as much as it is the junk food with all the added sugar.
Maybe they are very much drawn to sugary drinks abnd cakes, cookies, pies, pudding, candybars, hard candies, peeps, ya know, that sort of thing. Maybe its not so much the sugar itself,,,maybe its the processed carbs.......maybe? Is that crickets i hear?
Processed carbs is the addictive substance? Sadly that is also as silly as being addicted to "sugar"0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »Is it getting riled up by semantics OR
Is it not wanting to foster a way of thinking that's ultimately detrimental to weight loss?
I personally think that saying one is addicted to sugar is blame shifting. I don't think that meaningful progress with any sort of ongoing weight problem can be made until one is able to accept responsibility for their own behavior with food.
If you're still finding ways to blame the food, you're still going to fail in the end.
I know that sounds cold, but that's been my experience, and that's been what I've observed over time with other dieters.
This is NOT to say that one cannot be cognizant of the fact that sugar is a problem for them and chose to give it up while owning responsibility for their behavior. The two positions aren't mutually exclusive. I don't think people doing this generally go around saying they're addicted, though.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »Is it getting riled up by semantics OR
Is it not wanting to foster a way of thinking that's ultimately detrimental to weight loss?
I personally think that saying one is addicted to sugar is blame shifting. I don't think that meaningful progress with any sort of ongoing weight problem can be made until one is able to accept responsibility for their own behavior with food.
If you're still finding ways to blame the food, you're still going to fail in the end.
I know that sounds cold, but that's been my experience, and that's been what I've observed over time with other dieters.
This is NOT to say that one cannot be cognizant of the fact that sugar is a problem for them and chose to give it up while owning responsibility for their behavior. The two positions aren't mutually exclusive.
Realistically, that would require someone to be psychic. The assumption in any thread where the word "addiction" is used in correlation to "sugar" is that the person means it literally and clinically. They are never given the benefit of the doubt that it's a colloquial use, just like when people say OMG I'm addicted to Quest bars or coffee.
You can pretty much forecast it down to the post:
I want to cut sugar because I'm so addicted to it, any pointers?
Addiciton not real n00b
Stop being mean
Stop policing the forums
Stop moving goalposts
OMFG DID YOU KNOW FRUIT HAS SUGAR IN IT??? OMG NOBODY HAS EVER MENTIONED IT BEFORE!
hehehe are you going to stop eating apples? How could you not eat apples?
***generic mod warning***
I'm so offended you dared to compare my drug/alcohol/sex addiction to your Dunkin Donuts habit, How very dare you?!?!?!?!?!
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mamapeach910 wrote: »Is it getting riled up by semantics OR
Is it not wanting to foster a way of thinking that's ultimately detrimental to weight loss?
I personally think that saying one is addicted to sugar is blame shifting. I don't think that meaningful progress with any sort of ongoing weight problem can be made until one is able to accept responsibility for their own behavior with food.
If you're still finding ways to blame the food, you're still going to fail in the end.
I know that sounds cold, but that's been my experience, and that's been what I've observed over time with other dieters.
This is NOT to say that one cannot be cognizant of the fact that sugar is a problem for them and chose to give it up while owning responsibility for their behavior. The two positions aren't mutually exclusive.
Realistically, that would require someone to be psychic. The assumption in any thread where the word "addiction" is used in correlation to "sugar" is that the person means it literally and clinically. They are never given the benefit of the doubt that it's a colloquial use, just like when people say OMG I'm addicted to Quest bars or coffee.
You can pretty much forecast it down to the post:
I want to cut sugar because I'm so addicted to it, any pointers?
Addiciton not real n00b
Stop being mean
Stop policing the forums
Stop moving goalposts
OMFG DID YOU KNOW FRUIT HAS SUGAR IN IT??? OMG NOBODY HAS EVER MENTIONED IT BEFORE!
hehehe are you going to stop eating apples? How could you not eat apples?
***generic mod warning***
I'm so offended you dared to compare my drug/alcohol/sex addiction to your Dunkin Donuts habit, How very dare you?!?!?!?!?!
It's not the semantics of the word addicted, it's if you claim to have an issue with a substance, shouldn't you know what that substance is? Sugar takes many forms but so called addicts only focus on very few of them and only when in certain products, meaning they don't actually have an issue with sugar at all0 -
If I ever overdo it on something, I know that it's my fault. It's not the foods fault. I was the one who didn't have the self control to stop. I don't get why we blame so many things on foods. Weight loss is a mental battle more than anything, I think.0
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mamapeach910 wrote: »Is it getting riled up by semantics OR
Is it not wanting to foster a way of thinking that's ultimately detrimental to weight loss?
I personally think that saying one is addicted to sugar is blame shifting. I don't think that meaningful progress with any sort of ongoing weight problem can be made until one is able to accept responsibility for their own behavior with food.
If you're still finding ways to blame the food, you're still going to fail in the end.
I know that sounds cold, but that's been my experience, and that's been what I've observed over time with other dieters.
This is NOT to say that one cannot be cognizant of the fact that sugar is a problem for them and chose to give it up while owning responsibility for their behavior. The two positions aren't mutually exclusive.
Realistically, that would require someone to be psychic. The assumption in any thread where the word "addiction" is used in correlation to "sugar" is that the person means it literally and clinically. They are never given the benefit of the doubt that it's a colloquial use, just like when people say OMG I'm addicted to Quest bars or coffee.
You can pretty much forecast it down to the post:
I want to cut sugar because I'm so addicted to it, any pointers?
Addiciton not real n00b
Stop being mean
Stop policing the forums
Stop moving goalposts
OMFG DID YOU KNOW FRUIT HAS SUGAR IN IT??? OMG NOBODY HAS EVER MENTIONED IT BEFORE!
hehehe are you going to stop eating apples? How could you not eat apples?
***generic mod warning***
I'm so offended you dared to compare my drug/alcohol/sex addiction to your Dunkin Donuts habit, How very dare you?!?!?!?!?!
It's not the semantics of the word addicted, it's if you claim to have an issue with a substance, shouldn't you know what that substance is? Sugar takes many forms but so called addicts only focus on very few of them and only when in certain products, meaning they don't actually have an issue with sugar at all
Then shouldn't you also be lecturing the people who are addicted to cookie dough quest bars but don't like the lemon ones?0 -
ladybird89 wrote: »sugar is addictive in the sense that the more you consume it on a regular basis, the more you crave it and feel like you need it just to feel "normal." this is a fact. also, i've never heard anybody say "i'm addicted to sugar, therefore i'm giving up on losing weight. i'm addicted and always will be, brb gotta go eat two dozen donuts now." to the contrary. being self-aware enough to recognize that your body has become dependent on a certain substance (whether its for "comfort," for "energy," etc) is the first step to undoing that unhealthy habit.
The link between consumption and increased craving is true for some. All the "..ose" chemicals hit fast, depending on what else is consumed that might slow them down (pectin, for ex) and have an immediate effect on brain function - lights up receptors in the brain in the same place that is activated when people addicted to alcohol crave substance or drink, spikes dopamine (more so than puppies? maybe), increases presence of serotonin. Many people experience a crash afterwards ... which is alleviated by more sugar .... the alleviation of "crash" is experienced subjectively as a return to normal.
Whether or not you view the process judgmentally as an "excuse" ... why you would says more about you than anything; if the person you are judging is you, just say no? ... understanding it and being curious about how it plays out for you, individually, can be helpful in moderating a habit if that is what you want to do.
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Well Im gonna gO ahead and say this. I dont consider myself an "addict" but I love sugar. Plain ole white sugar. Leave a box of sugar cubes anywhere near me and I will eat the entire box. As a kid I would snag sugar packets from the target food court and suck on them in the store through the package!!! I Would shove the whole pack in my mouth. I actually told my mother in law about this a few months ago and funny enough at Christmas after 14 years of regular sugar in a container she suddenly had a box of sugar cubes. Of course I went straight for them. Im 99% sure she set me up.0
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Processed carbs is the addictive substance? Sadly that is also as silly as being addicted to "sugar"
Nope, I didnt say addictive substance, you did. I said drawn to. Some people think their so called Addiction is to sugar,,maybe they just really like all the processed junk food, cakes, cookies, etc and they tend to eat that because, it tastes good. Its not an addictive thing. Its about what they like and enjoy eating. They crave it and to them it feels like they cant go another minute without it. So when they ask about it on these boards they say they are addicted to it, and want advice.
Just dont buy junk food, to me its simple, ya cant eat what ya dont buy.
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