Self Diagnosed Sugar Addicts Sure Do Lie A Lot

Acg67
Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
in Health and Weight Loss
Based off observational data, 100% of self proclaimed sugar addicts, who claim they cannot moderate their sugar intake, later admit they can indeed moderate all sorts of sugars and sugary food stuffs. Why is this?

The alternate hypothesis is they are just ignorant and don't actually know what sugar is and just claim they are addicted to it as an excuse as to why they can't meet any of their goals.

Also how come "sugar addicts" always mention cookies, cakes, brownies etc when they also contain a good amount of fat, how did they discern it wasn't the combination of ingredients or the fat, it was the sugar?

Please discuss
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  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    This should be calm.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
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  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    This should be calm.

    Heh. Almost certainly. How could it not be?
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    Mmm...sugar. Also, in for gifs.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    This should be calm.

    Heh. Almost certainly. How could it not be?

    Almost? Do I detect a hint of potential disagreement? You must be a troll.
  • hollyrayburn
    hollyrayburn Posts: 905 Member
    I have no dog in this fight. I like sugar, and when I want it, I eat it. If I go over, I don't freak out. And I don't Use any kinda sugar substitute(unless I drink a diet coke), because stevia, truvia etc is disgusting.

    During my profession, i've seen alcoholics who "can't stop drinking" turn sober.

    Anyone who thinks they can't make a change, WON'T, and it makes me wonder why they're even on this site.
  • Lois_1989
    Lois_1989 Posts: 6,410 Member
    Well, you wouldn't blame the delicious roast potatoes cooked in goose fat would you?! Those suckers are like puppy dog eyes.
  • strong_curves
    strong_curves Posts: 2,229 Member
    This should be good. :D
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Based off observational data, 100% of self proclaimed sugar addicts, who claim they cannot moderate their sugar intake, later admit they can indeed moderate all sorts of sugars and sugary food stuffs. Why is this?

    The alternate hypothesis is they are just ignorant and don't actually know what sugar is and just claim they are addicted to it as an excuse as to why they can't meet any of their goals.

    Also how come "sugar addicts" always mention cookies, cakes, brownies etc when they also contain a good amount of fat, how did they discern it wasn't the combination of ingredients or the fat, it was the sugar?

    Please discuss

    Probably because they crave the sweet taste, not the fat. Have you ever heard anybody say "wow, can't wait to taste the Crisco in those cookies"? Probably not. But you likely have heard somebody say something to the effect of liking the sweet frosting or filling in a cupcake.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Based off observational data, 100% of self proclaimed sugar addicts, who claim they cannot moderate their sugar intake, later admit they can indeed moderate all sorts of sugars and sugary food stuffs. Why is this?

    The alternate hypothesis is they are just ignorant and don't actually know what sugar is and just claim they are addicted to it as an excuse as to why they can't meet any of their goals.

    Also how come "sugar addicts" always mention cookies, cakes, brownies etc when they also contain a good amount of fat, how did they discern it wasn't the combination of ingredients or the fat, it was the sugar?

    Please discuss

    Probably because they crave the sweet taste, not the fat. Have you ever heard anybody say "wow, can't wait to taste the Crisco in those cookies"? Probably not. But you likely have heard somebody say something to the effect of liking the sweet frosting or filling in a cupcake.

    True, but I don't know too many people downing sugar by the spoonful. So there's more to it than JUST sweetness

    Maybe it's the combination of the sweetness AND the fats (note that both frosting & cupcake filling also have fat).
  • k_nicole87
    k_nicole87 Posts: 407 Member
    I used to say I was addicted to sugar. Now I know I have the ability to regulate my macros and eat sweets in moderation like anything else. I, personally, used it as an excuse because I had no self control.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Based off observational data, 100% of self proclaimed sugar addicts, who claim they cannot moderate their sugar intake, later admit they can indeed moderate all sorts of sugars and sugary food stuffs. Why is this?

    The alternate hypothesis is they are just ignorant and don't actually know what sugar is and just claim they are addicted to it as an excuse as to why they can't meet any of their goals.

    Also how come "sugar addicts" always mention cookies, cakes, brownies etc when they also contain a good amount of fat, how did they discern it wasn't the combination of ingredients or the fat, it was the sugar?

    Please discuss

    Probably because they crave the sweet taste, not the fat. Have you ever heard anybody say "wow, can't wait to taste the Crisco in those cookies"? Probably not. But you likely have heard somebody say something to the effect of liking the sweet frosting or filling in a cupcake.

    Except they blame not being able to moderate those products, not because they taste sweet but because they contain sugar
  • hollyrayburn
    hollyrayburn Posts: 905 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Based off observational data, 100% of self proclaimed sugar addicts, who claim they cannot moderate their sugar intake, later admit they can indeed moderate all sorts of sugars and sugary food stuffs. Why is this?

    The alternate hypothesis is they are just ignorant and don't actually know what sugar is and just claim they are addicted to it as an excuse as to why they can't meet any of their goals.

    Also how come "sugar addicts" always mention cookies, cakes, brownies etc when they also contain a good amount of fat, how did they discern it wasn't the combination of ingredients or the fat, it was the sugar?

    Please discuss

    Probably because they crave the sweet taste, not the fat. Have you ever heard anybody say "wow, can't wait to taste the Crisco in those cookies"? Probably not. But you likely have heard somebody say something to the effect of liking the sweet frosting or filling in a cupcake.

    mmmm crisco! *gag*

    As a kid, mom's in this kitchen baking, and I'd dip my finger in the crisco and lick, thinking it was frosting.

    Or, my finger in the flour, thinking it was powdered sugar. Blech.
  • k_nicole87
    k_nicole87 Posts: 407 Member
    I will, however say that currently, I am addicted to caffeine. You know what that's like trying to cut back. Withdrawal.
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  • srslybritt
    srslybritt Posts: 1,618 Member
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    Is anyone willing to share their popcorn with me?
  • hollyrayburn
    hollyrayburn Posts: 905 Member
    Acg67 wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Based off observational data, 100% of self proclaimed sugar addicts, who claim they cannot moderate their sugar intake, later admit they can indeed moderate all sorts of sugars and sugary food stuffs. Why is this?

    The alternate hypothesis is they are just ignorant and don't actually know what sugar is and just claim they are addicted to it as an excuse as to why they can't meet any of their goals.

    Also how come "sugar addicts" always mention cookies, cakes, brownies etc when they also contain a good amount of fat, how did they discern it wasn't the combination of ingredients or the fat, it was the sugar?

    Please discuss

    Probably because they crave the sweet taste, not the fat. Have you ever heard anybody say "wow, can't wait to taste the Crisco in those cookies"? Probably not. But you likely have heard somebody say something to the effect of liking the sweet frosting or filling in a cupcake.

    Except they blame not being able to moderate those products, not because they taste sweet but because they contain sugar

    I don't blame any one componont for overindulging in something. I suppose I am "addicted" to cream, sugar, vanila, because I do love me some ice cream.

    I call BS on any food "addiction"
  • auroranflash
    auroranflash Posts: 3,569 Member
    You just reminded me I have half a pint of Ben & Jerry's Half Baked in the freezer at home. Now Monday will seem even longer and more painful.
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Based off observational data, 100% of self proclaimed sugar addicts, who claim they cannot moderate their sugar intake, later admit they can indeed moderate all sorts of sugars and sugary food stuffs. Why is this?

    The alternate hypothesis is they are just ignorant and don't actually know what sugar is and just claim they are addicted to it as an excuse as to why they can't meet any of their goals.

    Also how come "sugar addicts" always mention cookies, cakes, brownies etc when they also contain a good amount of fat, how did they discern it wasn't the combination of ingredients or the fat, it was the sugar?

    Please discuss

    Probably because they crave the sweet taste, not the fat. Have you ever heard anybody say "wow, can't wait to taste the Crisco in those cookies"? Probably not. But you likely have heard somebody say something to the effect of liking the sweet frosting or filling in a cupcake.
    I haven't read about a sugar addict who couldn't control fruit consumption. Isn't the banana called "nature's cupcake", or some BS like that?
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Based off observational data, 100% of self proclaimed sugar addicts, who claim they cannot moderate their sugar intake, later admit they can indeed moderate all sorts of sugars and sugary food stuffs. Why is this?

    The alternate hypothesis is they are just ignorant and don't actually know what sugar is and just claim they are addicted to it as an excuse as to why they can't meet any of their goals.

    Also how come "sugar addicts" always mention cookies, cakes, brownies etc when they also contain a good amount of fat, how did they discern it wasn't the combination of ingredients or the fat, it was the sugar?

    Please discuss

    Probably because they crave the sweet taste, not the fat. Have you ever heard anybody say "wow, can't wait to taste the Crisco in those cookies"? Probably not. But you likely have heard somebody say something to the effect of liking the sweet frosting or filling in a cupcake.

    True, but I don't know too many people downing sugar by the spoonful. So there's more to it than JUST sweetness

    Maybe it's the combination of the sweetness AND the fats (note that both frosting & cupcake filling also have fat).

    Hyper palatable foods...

    but sugar is an easier boogeyman
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Based off observational data, 100% of self proclaimed sugar addicts, who claim they cannot moderate their sugar intake, later admit they can indeed moderate all sorts of sugars and sugary food stuffs. Why is this?

    The alternate hypothesis is they are just ignorant and don't actually know what sugar is and just claim they are addicted to it as an excuse as to why they can't meet any of their goals.

    Also how come "sugar addicts" always mention cookies, cakes, brownies etc when they also contain a good amount of fat, how did they discern it wasn't the combination of ingredients or the fat, it was the sugar?

    Please discuss

    Probably because they crave the sweet taste, not the fat. Have you ever heard anybody say "wow, can't wait to taste the Crisco in those cookies"? Probably not. But you likely have heard somebody say something to the effect of liking the sweet frosting or filling in a cupcake.

    True, but I don't know too many people downing sugar by the spoonful. So there's more to it than JUST sweetness

    Maybe it's the combination of the sweetness AND the fats (note that both frosting & cupcake filling also have fat).

    That's the point the OP was making--that the foods mentioned usually have both. I was just pointing out that people will generally recognize the sweet craving over the fat craving.


    Acg67 wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Based off observational data, 100% of self proclaimed sugar addicts, who claim they cannot moderate their sugar intake, later admit they can indeed moderate all sorts of sugars and sugary food stuffs. Why is this?

    The alternate hypothesis is they are just ignorant and don't actually know what sugar is and just claim they are addicted to it as an excuse as to why they can't meet any of their goals.

    Also how come "sugar addicts" always mention cookies, cakes, brownies etc when they also contain a good amount of fat, how did they discern it wasn't the combination of ingredients or the fat, it was the sugar?

    Please discuss

    Probably because they crave the sweet taste, not the fat. Have you ever heard anybody say "wow, can't wait to taste the Crisco in those cookies"? Probably not. But you likely have heard somebody say something to the effect of liking the sweet frosting or filling in a cupcake.

    Except they blame not being able to moderate those products, not because they taste sweet but because they contain sugar

    I'm not sure where you are going here. Don't you think that most people associate sugar with sweetness?
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    auroranflash wrote: »
    You just reminded me I have half a pint of Ben & Jerry's Half Baked in the freezer at home. Now Monday will seem even longer and more painful.

    might be a sign of sugar addiction...
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  • Lois_1989
    Lois_1989 Posts: 6,410 Member
    edited April 2015
    zyxst wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Based off observational data, 100% of self proclaimed sugar addicts, who claim they cannot moderate their sugar intake, later admit they can indeed moderate all sorts of sugars and sugary food stuffs. Why is this?

    The alternate hypothesis is they are just ignorant and don't actually know what sugar is and just claim they are addicted to it as an excuse as to why they can't meet any of their goals.

    Also how come "sugar addicts" always mention cookies, cakes, brownies etc when they also contain a good amount of fat, how did they discern it wasn't the combination of ingredients or the fat, it was the sugar?

    Please discuss

    Probably because they crave the sweet taste, not the fat. Have you ever heard anybody say "wow, can't wait to taste the Crisco in those cookies"? Probably not. But you likely have heard somebody say something to the effect of liking the sweet frosting or filling in a cupcake.
    I haven't read about a sugar addict who couldn't control fruit consumption. Isn't the banana called "nature's cupcake", or some BS like that?

    I dunno, but i wouldn't turn down strawberries. :blush:

    Edit, typo
  • Lois_1989
    Lois_1989 Posts: 6,410 Member
    edited April 2015
    double post
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    thecunninglinguist wrote: »
    addiction is a loose definition. can we just agree on that and drop this whole stupid discussion

    Ok, so when they say they are addicted to "sugar" how come sugar is so narrowly defined and inconsistent? Sucrose bad, sucrose in apples great!
  • hollyrayburn
    hollyrayburn Posts: 905 Member
    Acg67 wrote: »
    thecunninglinguist wrote: »
    addiction is a loose definition. can we just agree on that and drop this whole stupid discussion

    Ok, so when they say they are addicted to "sugar" how come sugar is so narrowly defined and inconsistent? Sucrose bad, sucrose in apples great!

    Because they probably didn't get fat eating apple-based sucrose.

    "I wouldn't be fat if I didn't have a food addiction."
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Based off observational data, 100% of self proclaimed sugar addicts, who claim they cannot moderate their sugar intake, later admit they can indeed moderate all sorts of sugars and sugary food stuffs. Why is this?

    The alternate hypothesis is they are just ignorant and don't actually know what sugar is and just claim they are addicted to it as an excuse as to why they can't meet any of their goals.

    Also how come "sugar addicts" always mention cookies, cakes, brownies etc when they also contain a good amount of fat, how did they discern it wasn't the combination of ingredients or the fat, it was the sugar?

    Please discuss

    Probably because they crave the sweet taste, not the fat. Have you ever heard anybody say "wow, can't wait to taste the Crisco in those cookies"? Probably not. But you likely have heard somebody say something to the effect of liking the sweet frosting or filling in a cupcake.

    True, but I don't know too many people downing sugar by the spoonful. So there's more to it than JUST sweetness

    Maybe it's the combination of the sweetness AND the fats (note that both frosting & cupcake filling also have fat).

    That's the point the OP was making--that the foods mentioned usually have both. I was just pointing out that people will generally recognize the sweet craving over the fat craving.


    Acg67 wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Based off observational data, 100% of self proclaimed sugar addicts, who claim they cannot moderate their sugar intake, later admit they can indeed moderate all sorts of sugars and sugary food stuffs. Why is this?

    The alternate hypothesis is they are just ignorant and don't actually know what sugar is and just claim they are addicted to it as an excuse as to why they can't meet any of their goals.

    Also how come "sugar addicts" always mention cookies, cakes, brownies etc when they also contain a good amount of fat, how did they discern it wasn't the combination of ingredients or the fat, it was the sugar?

    Please discuss

    Probably because they crave the sweet taste, not the fat. Have you ever heard anybody say "wow, can't wait to taste the Crisco in those cookies"? Probably not. But you likely have heard somebody say something to the effect of liking the sweet frosting or filling in a cupcake.

    Except they blame not being able to moderate those products, not because they taste sweet but because they contain sugar

    I'm not sure where you are going here. Don't you think that most people associate sugar with sweetness?

    But if you were to say i'm addicted to sugar that doesn't also mean i'm addicted to sweetness, even though they may be associated. They claim to be addicted to an actual compound, not a taste
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    edited April 2015
    In. If you ever want former "sugar addicts" to start testifying, just let me know.

    I will say... I did stop eating fruit when I stopped eating sugar and did also go low carb.

    Still? Wasn't a sugar addict. I then developed a problem controlling myself when it came to eating other foods.

    Egg salad? Bring it. Avocados? Almonds? Could plow through them.

    I eat sugar now. In moderation. The same way I eat egg salad, avocado, and almonds.

    I think the important thing to remember is the biggest lie sugar addicts are telling is to themselves.
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