Perspective - Not all calories created equal

tlflag1620

Sarasmaintaining wrote: »

tlflag1620 wrote: »

Sarasmaintaining wrote: »

JenniferIsLosingIt wrote: »

Then why do you feel physically better when you eat the better food if a calories is a claroie? I mean absolutely no disrespect. To ME food is fuel, and the better fuel you use in your body the better it performs. So does that mean if I eat 1500 calories of crap it is just as good to my body fuel or energy wise as nutrient packed food?
Once again I am not being snarky or anything. I just need to understand this better.

I feel no different after eating my lunch of salmon, cottage cheese and asparagus, vs when I head to McDonalds later today for ice cream and fries (dipping McDs fries into their ice cream is pure awesome). At the end of the day I'm hitting my calorie and macro targets and go to bed feeling great

Must be a YMMV situation. When I eat fast food or "junk food" I definitely feel the difference. I feel tired, bloated, sometimes nauseous, maybe get headaches, indigestion, heartburn, etc. Then again, I'm 35 years old. When I was 20? Yeah I could eat whatever. Didn't know what heartburn even felt like.

You know you're getting old the first time pizza gives you indigestion!

I'm older than you I've actually never had heartburn, but I have a relative who eats super 'healthy', is a healthy weight, and gets heart burn all the time and is on prescription meds for it. She also has a lot of food allergies, IBS etc. It's crazy how we're all so different!

That makes me feel a little better I thought I was just getting old, lol.

lemurcat12

tlflag1620 wrote: »

Sarasmaintaining wrote: »

JenniferIsLosingIt wrote: »

Then why do you feel physically better when you eat the better food if a calories is a claroie? I mean absolutely no disrespect. To ME food is fuel, and the better fuel you use in your body the better it performs. So does that mean if I eat 1500 calories of crap it is just as good to my body fuel or energy wise as nutrient packed food?
Once again I am not being snarky or anything. I just need to understand this better.

I feel no different after eating my lunch of salmon, cottage cheese and asparagus, vs when I head to McDonalds later today for ice cream and fries (dipping McDs fries into their ice cream is pure awesome). At the end of the day I'm hitting my calorie and macro targets and go to bed feeling great

Must be a YMMV situation. When I eat fast food or "junk food" I definitely feel the difference. I feel tired, bloated, sometimes nauseous, maybe get headaches, indigestion, heartburn, etc. Then again, I'm 35 years old. When I was 20? Yeah I could eat whatever. Didn't know what heartburn even felt like.

You know you're getting old the first time pizza gives you indigestion!

Seems like fast food and "junk food" are awfully broad categories to generalize about.

For example, I get pizza at a nice Italian place near a theater we go to sometimes. The ingredients are basically the same as any pasta dish (and I don't think the pasta dish would be called "junk food" by anyone, but who can tell). Are you claiming this would give you indigestion just because it's pizza? What about pizza made at home?

The funny thing is I suspect that the commonality in a lot of this stuff--fast food, chain pizza, etc., is high fat content, so that would be the most likely thing to be reacting to, unless it's psychosomatic, of course.

whmscll

lemurcat12 wrote: »

tlflag1620 wrote: »

Sarasmaintaining wrote: »

JenniferIsLosingIt wrote: »

Then why do you feel physically better when you eat the better food if a calories is a claroie? I mean absolutely no disrespect. To ME food is fuel, and the better fuel you use in your body the better it performs. So does that mean if I eat 1500 calories of crap it is just as good to my body fuel or energy wise as nutrient packed food?
Once again I am not being snarky or anything. I just need to understand this better.

I feel no different after eating my lunch of salmon, cottage cheese and asparagus, vs when I head to McDonalds later today for ice cream and fries (dipping McDs fries into their ice cream is pure awesome). At the end of the day I'm hitting my calorie and macro targets and go to bed feeling great

Must be a YMMV situation. When I eat fast food or "junk food" I definitely feel the difference. I feel tired, bloated, sometimes nauseous, maybe get headaches, indigestion, heartburn, etc. Then again, I'm 35 years old. When I was 20? Yeah I could eat whatever. Didn't know what heartburn even felt like.

You know you're getting old the first time pizza gives you indigestion!

Seems like fast food and "junk food" are awfully broad categories to generalize about.

For example, I get pizza at a nice Italian place near a theater we go to sometimes. The ingredients are basically the same as any pasta dish (and I don't think the pasta dish would be called "junk food" by anyone, but who can tell). Are you claiming this would give you indigestion just because it's pizza? What about pizza made at home?

The funny thing is I suspect that the commonality in a lot of this stuff--fast food, chain pizza, etc., is high fat content, so that would be the most likely thing to be reacting to, unless it's psychosomatic, of course.

This may be true. I ate a fast-food burger with fries recently and felt awful after. Probably because my body is not used to that much fat all at one time.

tlflag1620

lemurcat12 wrote: »

tlflag1620 wrote: »

Sarasmaintaining wrote: »

JenniferIsLosingIt wrote: »

Then why do you feel physically better when you eat the better food if a calories is a claroie? I mean absolutely no disrespect. To ME food is fuel, and the better fuel you use in your body the better it performs. So does that mean if I eat 1500 calories of crap it is just as good to my body fuel or energy wise as nutrient packed food?
Once again I am not being snarky or anything. I just need to understand this better.

I feel no different after eating my lunch of salmon, cottage cheese and asparagus, vs when I head to McDonalds later today for ice cream and fries (dipping McDs fries into their ice cream is pure awesome). At the end of the day I'm hitting my calorie and macro targets and go to bed feeling great

Must be a YMMV situation. When I eat fast food or "junk food" I definitely feel the difference. I feel tired, bloated, sometimes nauseous, maybe get headaches, indigestion, heartburn, etc. Then again, I'm 35 years old. When I was 20? Yeah I could eat whatever. Didn't know what heartburn even felt like.

You know you're getting old the first time pizza gives you indigestion!

Seems like fast food and "junk food" are awfully broad categories to generalize about.

For example, I get pizza at a nice Italian place near a theater we go to sometimes. The ingredients are basically the same as any pasta dish (and I don't think the pasta dish would be called "junk food" by anyone, but who can tell). Are you claiming this would give you indigestion just because it's pizza? What about pizza made at home?

The funny thing is I suspect that the commonality in a lot of this stuff--fast food, chain pizza, etc., is high fat content, so that would be the most likely thing to be reacting to, unless it's psychosomatic, of course.

I make pizza at home for my husband and kids. But, no, I generally can't eat it. I make my own dough (nothing but flour, water, olive oil, yeast, salt), make my own sauce (nothing but tomato puree, garlic, onions, Italian seasonings, salt, pepper) - so I know there isn't an ungodly amount of salt or sugar. I get your basic shredded mozzarella cheese (usually the store brand - whole milk mozzarella), and top it with pepperoni, veggies (usually bell peppers), and Parmesan cheese (the real deal). I have to put my toppings on a portabello mushroom cap or make a cauliflower crust or something, otherwise I get the bloating, indigestion, headaches, fatigue, and pretty extreme swelling due to water retention. It was worse with the pizza hut tho - more sodium than I'm used to perhaps. Some of it is likely a gluten intolerance (or just a general wheat intolerance). I eat high fat low carb to begin with so I know it's not the fat, lol. And, come to think of it, indulging in things like bread, pasta, cake, anything made with wheat for that matter, treats me much the same.... and if I do it too often my eczema flares. Good motivation to stick with low carb!

FWIW - if I indulge in sweets - candy, ice cream, soda - "junk" that mainly involves sugar, rather than wheat, I don't feel like crap... well, until the hypoglycemia sets in, lol, but that can be avoided by pairing my sugar with some fat, protein, and/or fiber. But so much "junk" and "fast food" involves wheat that I suppose it's not fair to blame the sugar and fat - for me it's likely the wheat that's the issue.

WinoGelato

This thread has it all. Spring rolls dipped in mustard? Not a sesame ginger soy sauce with a little sriacha for heat? Discussions of literal crap and the nebulous term: crap food?
All I know is that from now on I'm going to say, "that's like comparing spring rolls to donuts" instead of "apples and oranges".

Oh and I ate part of this for breakfast:



I can assure you I'm quite full...

stevencloser

I have no idea what this is you ate but I want it.

AmyCKay

cwolfman13 wrote: »

my issue with doughnuts and muffins and stuff like that is for the calories, they just don't fill me up. I typically have scrambled eggs with black beans smothered in NM green chiles with a low sodium V8 for breakfast. It clocks in somewhere between 400 - 500 calories; in the break room this morning I saw that someone brought in Blueberry muffins...out of curiosity I looked at the calorie count and it was 500...just not worth it to me...I don't like that kind of stuff much to begin with, but my belly would never be satisfied with that little muffin.

Well said, same here