Cutting junk food out of my diet?

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  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,946 Member
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    Machka9 wrote: »
    I stopped buying the junk food.

    If junk food = potato chips ... by the time I got home after work, I used to have almost desperate cravings for potato chips. Then I made an interesting discovery when I started logging here. My sodium levels tend to be low. So, I started eating salted cucumber slices or pickles with cottage cheese when I got home after work, and those potato chip cravings went away. :)

    I am so going to try this!

  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,943 Member
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    tomatoey wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Lounmoun wrote: »
    Wasn't expecting so many responses on this!! Thanks for all the advice, you guys ☺️ By "junk food", I was referring to chips, candy, and ice cream. The people I live with are constantly buying this stuff.

    Do you take things that don't belong to you that aren't food? You might find it helpful to view this food as off limits because it belongs to someone else. Ask the owners to put it away in a cabinet or in their room. Get yourself some tasty things that fit your goals.
    I live with people who eat candy, chips, ice cream, etc too. I have set aside some things for myself like granola bars and popcorn. I also eat food I really enjoy every day so I don't feel like I am missing out.

    I don't think you meant that in the way that it has come out.....

    What does stealing other things have to do with food sharing among family members?

    I think they're saying to reframe it, to view food more as personal property, so as to create more of a feeling of taboo. Not. So much that it should be that way, just that it might help

    Well, if that's the case, it's silly. It sounds like the OP lives with her family who buys the food. The answer is self-control, not avoidance.
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
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    SLLRunner wrote: »
    tomatoey wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Lounmoun wrote: »
    Wasn't expecting so many responses on this!! Thanks for all the advice, you guys ☺️ By "junk food", I was referring to chips, candy, and ice cream. The people I live with are constantly buying this stuff.

    Do you take things that don't belong to you that aren't food? You might find it helpful to view this food as off limits because it belongs to someone else. Ask the owners to put it away in a cabinet or in their room. Get yourself some tasty things that fit your goals.
    I live with people who eat candy, chips, ice cream, etc too. I have set aside some things for myself like granola bars and popcorn. I also eat food I really enjoy every day so I don't feel like I am missing out.

    I don't think you meant that in the way that it has come out.....

    What does stealing other things have to do with food sharing among family members?

    I think they're saying to reframe it, to view food more as personal property, so as to create more of a feeling of taboo. Not. So much that it should be that way, just that it might help

    Well, if that's the case, it's silly. It sounds like the OP lives with her family who buys the food. The answer is self-control, not avoidance.

    I agree about the sharing food thing, but you know, different strokes for different folks. Like I said, avoidance (in the house) works for me, and lots of other people. Long-term, too. I do have one-offs outside the house, in single servings, but I don't see a reason to make self-control/discipline/whatever the issue, vs. weight management, when just not having it at home works so well.

    In this case, OP's stuck with challenging food at home. One way of dealing with that is to change your taste buds, which a lower carb/GI diet can totally do.
  • Gianfranco_R
    Gianfranco_R Posts: 1,297 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    here is the list:

    Cakes, cookies, pastries, and donuts (contain both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sodas, energy drinks, sports drinks, and fruit drinks (contain added sugars)
    Cheese (contains solid fat)
    Pizza (contains solid fat)
    Ice cream (contains both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sausages, hot dogs, bacon, and ribs (contain solid fat)

    how can pizza be empty if it has protein, fat, and carbs? would vegetable pizza still be empty even though you would get a lot of micros from it???

    The link clearly defines it's definition of "empty calories" - solid fat and added sugar.

    Which...IMO...is a dumb definition.

    cosigned

    you must to do something...
    You may want to start correcting the wikipedia page about empty calories:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empty_calorie
    please share your knowledge with the world!
  • whisper34c
    whisper34c Posts: 16 Member
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    I used to have the same problem with junk food. I just couldn't stop that was mainly the reason why i gained 30lbs AFTER my daughter was born. (yes I said AFTER) Then I started drinking this full meal replacement shake called Shakeology. It is a tremendous help with my junk food craving and it give the energy i need to keep up with my now 2 yr old lil girl.
  • totallyrad308
    totallyrad308 Posts: 1 Member
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    Machka9 wrote: »
    I've been having trouble with cutting junk food out of my diet. I tried to only eat junk food in moderation. I also tried to make sure it fit my macros, but that eventually led to more craving and overeating. Now I'm back to square one. What method did you guys use to cut junk food out of your diet? What foods did you substitute for junk food?

    I stopped buying the junk food.

    If junk food = potato chips ... by the time I got home after work, I used to have almost desperate cravings for potato chips. Then I made an interesting discovery when I started logging here. My sodium levels tend to be low. So, I started eating salted cucumber slices or pickles with cottage cheese when I got home after work, and those potato chip cravings went away. :)

    Awesome tip! My naturopath recommended I actually increase my sodium intake (really?) & I get crazy salt cravings - iron levels are fine - so I will try this. Salt & dill on cucumber is so good.
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 24,930 Member
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    Machka9 wrote: »
    I've been having trouble with cutting junk food out of my diet. I tried to only eat junk food in moderation. I also tried to make sure it fit my macros, but that eventually led to more craving and overeating. Now I'm back to square one. What method did you guys use to cut junk food out of your diet? What foods did you substitute for junk food?

    I stopped buying the junk food.

    If junk food = potato chips ... by the time I got home after work, I used to have almost desperate cravings for potato chips. Then I made an interesting discovery when I started logging here. My sodium levels tend to be low. So, I started eating salted cucumber slices or pickles with cottage cheese when I got home after work, and those potato chip cravings went away. :)

    Awesome tip! My naturopath recommended I actually increase my sodium intake (really?) & I get crazy salt cravings - iron levels are fine - so I will try this. Salt & dill on cucumber is so good.

    Thanks :)

    I had always just assumed that my sodium levels were high ... that's sort of what we're told all the time, that we get more than enough sodium in our diets.

    But when I started logging here, there were days where my sodium was coming in less than half the recommended value. Veggies, fruit, and things like brown rice just don't contain a whole lot of sodium. I was eating a few things with a bit of sodium, but not much.

    So it felt kind of weird to me to increase my sodium intake, but it seemed to help. :)

    And things like pickles and cucumbers are both yummy and really low cal. :smiley:

  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    edited May 2015
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    ceoverturf wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    here is the list:

    Cakes, cookies, pastries, and donuts (contain both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sodas, energy drinks, sports drinks, and fruit drinks (contain added sugars)
    Cheese (contains solid fat)
    Pizza (contains solid fat)
    Ice cream (contains both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sausages, hot dogs, bacon, and ribs (contain solid fat)

    how can pizza be empty if it has protein, fat, and carbs? would vegetable pizza still be empty even though you would get a lot of micros from it???

    The link clearly defines it's definition of "empty calories" - solid fat and added sugar.

    Which...IMO...is a dumb definition.

    I'm guessing I would be pretty safe to assume the article was written/reviewed by someone with at least a Master's Degree in Nutrition and it's calling a spade a spade.

    The article does say at the end:

    "A small amount of empty calories is okay, but most people eat far more than is healthy. It is important to limit empty calories to the amount that fits your calorie and nutrient needs. You can lower your intake by eating and drinking foods and beverages containing empty calories less often or by decreasing the amount you eat or drink."

    I think all of us could agree this is a true statement.

  • KarenJanine
    KarenJanine Posts: 3,497 Member
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    Packerjohn wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    here is the list:

    Cakes, cookies, pastries, and donuts (contain both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sodas, energy drinks, sports drinks, and fruit drinks (contain added sugars)
    Cheese (contains solid fat)
    Pizza (contains solid fat)
    Ice cream (contains both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sausages, hot dogs, bacon, and ribs (contain solid fat)

    how can pizza be empty if it has protein, fat, and carbs? would vegetable pizza still be empty even though you would get a lot of micros from it???

    The link clearly defines it's definition of "empty calories" - solid fat and added sugar.

    Which...IMO...is a dumb definition.

    I'm guessing I would be pretty safe to assume the article was written/reviewed by someone with at least a Master's Degree in Nutrition and it's calling a spade a spade.

    The article does say at the end:

    "A small amount of empty calories is okay, but most people eat far more than is healthy. It is important to limit empty calories to the amount that fits your calorie and nutrient needs. You can lower your intake by eating and drinking foods and beverages containing empty calories less often or by decreasing the amount you eat or drink."

    I think all of us could agree this is a true statement.

    But surely that applies to all foods? Once one exceeds their calorie needs then they will gain weight, regardless of the food being consumed.

  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
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    I thought about it. I could either never eat the stuff again or learn to be satisfied with a little bit. That's the only two options as I don't want to be obese again... Decided I don't want to give up anything forever and learned to eat in moderation. Still a work in progress at times but I'm much happier this way.
  • idesignhomes
    idesignhomes Posts: 2 Member
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    Read "Wheat Belly" by Dr. William Davis. It talks about the modifications to wheat over the last 40 years and how detrimental it is to your health. It was really eye opening since so many things are made from wheat and they are basically like opiates in your brain and make you hungry and have a euphoric effect on you. It cured me of wanting those cookies/crackers when I discovered what it was doing to my body and brain.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,139 Member
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    Read "Wheat Belly" by Dr. William Davis. It talks about the modifications to wheat over the last 40 years and how detrimental it is to your health. It was really eye opening since so many things are made from wheat and they are basically like opiates in your brain and make you hungry and have a euphoric effect on you. It cured me of wanting those cookies/crackers when I discovered what it was doing to my body and brain.

    no, don't read wheat belly.


    LOL this is just ridiculous. So you eat zero wheat now?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,139 Member
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    Packerjohn wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    here is the list:

    Cakes, cookies, pastries, and donuts (contain both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sodas, energy drinks, sports drinks, and fruit drinks (contain added sugars)
    Cheese (contains solid fat)
    Pizza (contains solid fat)
    Ice cream (contains both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sausages, hot dogs, bacon, and ribs (contain solid fat)

    how can pizza be empty if it has protein, fat, and carbs? would vegetable pizza still be empty even though you would get a lot of micros from it???

    The link clearly defines it's definition of "empty calories" - solid fat and added sugar.

    Which...IMO...is a dumb definition.

    I'm guessing I would be pretty safe to assume the article was written/reviewed by someone with at least a Master's Degree in Nutrition and it's calling a spade a spade.

    The article does say at the end:

    "A small amount of empty calories is okay, but most people eat far more than is healthy. It is important to limit empty calories to the amount that fits your calorie and nutrient needs. You can lower your intake by eating and drinking foods and beverages containing empty calories less often or by decreasing the amount you eat or drink."

    I think all of us could agree this is a true statement.

    empty implies that said calories have zero benefit …but 50 calories of fat gives you 50 units of energy so it is not empty …

    again, ridiculous definition is ridiculous.

    the only empty calorie is a zero calorie food like water….
  • idesignhomes
    idesignhomes Posts: 2 Member
    edited May 2015
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Read "Wheat Belly" by Dr. William Davis. It talks about the modifications to wheat over the last 40 years and how detrimental it is to your health. It was really eye opening since so many things are made from wheat and they are basically like opiates in your brain and make you hungry and have a euphoric effect on you. It cured me of wanting those cookies/crackers when I discovered what it was doing to my body and brain.

    no, don't read wheat belly.


    LOL this is just ridiculous. So you eat zero wheat now?

    I eat very little wheat now.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,139 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Read "Wheat Belly" by Dr. William Davis. It talks about the modifications to wheat over the last 40 years and how detrimental it is to your health. It was really eye opening since so many things are made from wheat and they are basically like opiates in your brain and make you hungry and have a euphoric effect on you. It cured me of wanting those cookies/crackers when I discovered what it was doing to my body and brain.

    no, don't read wheat belly.


    LOL this is just ridiculous. So you eat zero wheat now?

    I eat very little wheat now.

    please link me to some human studies showing the connection between wheat and opiates.

    I can't believe you are even making such a ridiculous claim. So wheat is on par with heroin now, really????
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    here is the list:

    Cakes, cookies, pastries, and donuts (contain both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sodas, energy drinks, sports drinks, and fruit drinks (contain added sugars)
    Cheese (contains solid fat)
    Pizza (contains solid fat)
    Ice cream (contains both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sausages, hot dogs, bacon, and ribs (contain solid fat)

    how can pizza be empty if it has protein, fat, and carbs? would vegetable pizza still be empty even though you would get a lot of micros from it???

    The link clearly defines it's definition of "empty calories" - solid fat and added sugar.

    Which...IMO...is a dumb definition.

    I'm guessing I would be pretty safe to assume the article was written/reviewed by someone with at least a Master's Degree in Nutrition and it's calling a spade a spade.

    The article does say at the end:

    "A small amount of empty calories is okay, but most people eat far more than is healthy. It is important to limit empty calories to the amount that fits your calorie and nutrient needs. You can lower your intake by eating and drinking foods and beverages containing empty calories less often or by decreasing the amount you eat or drink."

    I think all of us could agree this is a true statement.

    empty implies that said calories have zero benefit …but 50 calories of fat gives you 50 units of energy so it is not empty …

    again, ridiculous definition is ridiculous.

    the only empty calorie is a zero calorie food like water….

    are you saying you feel just as fuelled, energetic, and satiated after a bag of chips as you are with a sandwich for the same cals?

    i'd be amazed if so. i know for myself, my stomach might be "full" after eating chips, in the sense that i have to stop at some point, but it's nowhere near as filling as real food (and please, everyone knows what i mean by "real food"). also that "fullness" from chips tends not to last very long, for me at least. got to have more there, there.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,139 Member
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    tomatoey wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    here is the list:

    Cakes, cookies, pastries, and donuts (contain both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sodas, energy drinks, sports drinks, and fruit drinks (contain added sugars)
    Cheese (contains solid fat)
    Pizza (contains solid fat)
    Ice cream (contains both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sausages, hot dogs, bacon, and ribs (contain solid fat)

    how can pizza be empty if it has protein, fat, and carbs? would vegetable pizza still be empty even though you would get a lot of micros from it???

    The link clearly defines it's definition of "empty calories" - solid fat and added sugar.

    Which...IMO...is a dumb definition.

    I'm guessing I would be pretty safe to assume the article was written/reviewed by someone with at least a Master's Degree in Nutrition and it's calling a spade a spade.

    The article does say at the end:

    "A small amount of empty calories is okay, but most people eat far more than is healthy. It is important to limit empty calories to the amount that fits your calorie and nutrient needs. You can lower your intake by eating and drinking foods and beverages containing empty calories less often or by decreasing the amount you eat or drink."

    I think all of us could agree this is a true statement.

    empty implies that said calories have zero benefit …but 50 calories of fat gives you 50 units of energy so it is not empty …

    again, ridiculous definition is ridiculous.

    the only empty calorie is a zero calorie food like water….

    are you saying you feel just as fuelled, energetic, and satiated after a bag of chips as you are with a sandwich for the same cals?

    i'd be amazed if so. i know for myself, my stomach might be "full" after eating chips, in the sense that i have to stop at some point, but it's nowhere near as filling as real food (and please, everyone knows what i mean by "real food"). also that "fullness" from chips tends not to last very long, for me at least. got to have more there, there.

    where did I say anything about me in that sentence you quoted?

    I said 50 calories of fat = 50 units of energy. Therefore, to claim that fat is an empty calorie is ridiculous.

    feelings have nothing to do with it.
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    tomatoey wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    here is the list:

    Cakes, cookies, pastries, and donuts (contain both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sodas, energy drinks, sports drinks, and fruit drinks (contain added sugars)
    Cheese (contains solid fat)
    Pizza (contains solid fat)
    Ice cream (contains both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sausages, hot dogs, bacon, and ribs (contain solid fat)

    how can pizza be empty if it has protein, fat, and carbs? would vegetable pizza still be empty even though you would get a lot of micros from it???

    The link clearly defines it's definition of "empty calories" - solid fat and added sugar.

    Which...IMO...is a dumb definition.

    I'm guessing I would be pretty safe to assume the article was written/reviewed by someone with at least a Master's Degree in Nutrition and it's calling a spade a spade.

    The article does say at the end:

    "A small amount of empty calories is okay, but most people eat far more than is healthy. It is important to limit empty calories to the amount that fits your calorie and nutrient needs. You can lower your intake by eating and drinking foods and beverages containing empty calories less often or by decreasing the amount you eat or drink."

    I think all of us could agree this is a true statement.

    empty implies that said calories have zero benefit …but 50 calories of fat gives you 50 units of energy so it is not empty …

    again, ridiculous definition is ridiculous.

    the only empty calorie is a zero calorie food like water….

    are you saying you feel just as fuelled, energetic, and satiated after a bag of chips as you are with a sandwich for the same cals?

    i'd be amazed if so. i know for myself, my stomach might be "full" after eating chips, in the sense that i have to stop at some point, but it's nowhere near as filling as real food (and please, everyone knows what i mean by "real food"). also that "fullness" from chips tends not to last very long, for me at least. got to have more there, there.

    where did I say anything about me in that sentence you quoted?

    I said 50 calories of fat = 50 units of energy. Therefore, to claim that fat is an empty calorie is ridiculous.

    feelings have nothing to do with it.

    sure they do. calories don't matter (for weight loss/gain/fuelling activity) outside of human bodies. hunger/satiety perception is part of it. chips aren't great that way for a lot of people
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    tomatoey wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    here is the list:

    Cakes, cookies, pastries, and donuts (contain both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sodas, energy drinks, sports drinks, and fruit drinks (contain added sugars)
    Cheese (contains solid fat)
    Pizza (contains solid fat)
    Ice cream (contains both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sausages, hot dogs, bacon, and ribs (contain solid fat)

    how can pizza be empty if it has protein, fat, and carbs? would vegetable pizza still be empty even though you would get a lot of micros from it???

    The link clearly defines it's definition of "empty calories" - solid fat and added sugar.

    Which...IMO...is a dumb definition.

    I'm guessing I would be pretty safe to assume the article was written/reviewed by someone with at least a Master's Degree in Nutrition and it's calling a spade a spade.

    The article does say at the end:

    "A small amount of empty calories is okay, but most people eat far more than is healthy. It is important to limit empty calories to the amount that fits your calorie and nutrient needs. You can lower your intake by eating and drinking foods and beverages containing empty calories less often or by decreasing the amount you eat or drink."

    I think all of us could agree this is a true statement.

    empty implies that said calories have zero benefit …but 50 calories of fat gives you 50 units of energy so it is not empty …

    again, ridiculous definition is ridiculous.

    the only empty calorie is a zero calorie food like water….

    are you saying you feel just as fuelled, energetic, and satiated after a bag of chips as you are with a sandwich for the same cals?

    i'd be amazed if so. i know for myself, my stomach might be "full" after eating chips, in the sense that i have to stop at some point, but it's nowhere near as filling as real food (and please, everyone knows what i mean by "real food"). also that "fullness" from chips tends not to last very long, for me at least. got to have more there, there.

    where did I say anything about me in that sentence you quoted?

    I said 50 calories of fat = 50 units of energy. Therefore, to claim that fat is an empty calorie is ridiculous.

    feelings have nothing to do with it.

    and my point is that if the sandwich is better in teh ways i said, spending those cals on chips is a waste.
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    here is the list:

    Cakes, cookies, pastries, and donuts (contain both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sodas, energy drinks, sports drinks, and fruit drinks (contain added sugars)
    Cheese (contains solid fat)
    Pizza (contains solid fat)
    Ice cream (contains both solid fat and added sugars)
    Sausages, hot dogs, bacon, and ribs (contain solid fat)

    how can pizza be empty if it has protein, fat, and carbs? would vegetable pizza still be empty even though you would get a lot of micros from it???

    The link clearly defines it's definition of "empty calories" - solid fat and added sugar.

    Which...IMO...is a dumb definition.

    I'm guessing I would be pretty safe to assume the article was written/reviewed by someone with at least a Master's Degree in Nutrition and it's calling a spade a spade.

    The article does say at the end:

    "A small amount of empty calories is okay, but most people eat far more than is healthy. It is important to limit empty calories to the amount that fits your calorie and nutrient needs. You can lower your intake by eating and drinking foods and beverages containing empty calories less often or by decreasing the amount you eat or drink."

    I think all of us could agree this is a true statement.

    empty implies that said calories have zero benefit …but 50 calories of fat gives you 50 units of energy so it is not empty …

    again, ridiculous definition is ridiculous.

    the only empty calorie is a zero calorie food like water….

    The article describes empty calorie foods that contain calories but few nutrients