Pervy Trainer

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  • AbsoluteTara79
    AbsoluteTara79 Posts: 266 Member
    How is the butt-touching even a debate?!? Based on the description it wasn't a form assist.

    Fired on the spot.
  • 5BeautifulDays
    5BeautifulDays Posts: 683 Member
    When I started working with my trainer, he was *very* cautious about touching me at all. I wasn't doing anything that required true spotting, and we didn't know each other well. It took a couple months before we knew one another well (were friendly) enough that casual, non-spotting/demonstration touching occurred (a quick side-hug, bumping an arm to make a point, etc.). It's been almost a year we've been working together, and if he slapped my butt, I would be shocked and angry and would speak up in a way that left no room for interpretation. If it happened again, he'd no longer be my trainer. Thankfully, he's fully professional and a respectable, decent guy anyway. Decent guys don't slap a woman's butt without having had some sort of relationship/boundary/consent discussion ahead of time.

  • KellyOoooo
    KellyOoooo Posts: 2 Member
    I've been a trainer for 5 years and this is not ok. He should know better than to touch you like that. And after you asked him not to? That's flagrant disrespect. Find a new trainer. You should feel totally comfortable with and encouraged by your trainer. You should mesh. He seems far from a good fit.
  • livingminimal_
    livingminimal_ Posts: 4 Member
    The touching is absolute *kitten* and you should say something again and let him know next time it will go to his superior.
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,459 Member
    DavPul wrote: »
    tomatoey wrote: »
    It also makes trainers look bad.

    No it don't
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    tomatoey wrote: »
    It also makes trainers look bad.
    Nah. It makes that trainer one to be aware of. It's no different than a spin instructor who yells crazily while spinning hard or a BodyPump instructor "whoop, whoops" throughout the workout. Like any other career job, people have their own personalities.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    I don't know if you guys are aware, but gym-based trainers have a rep for being unprofessional in various ways (e.g. being sales-driven; using out-of-date / ineffective protocols, especially for women; and some of them are kind of douchey, that's where I'd put this trainer). Obviously, that sucks for those who aren't like that.
  • Karen_can_do_this
    Karen_can_do_this Posts: 1,150 Member
    aggelikik wrote: »
    rasheedahj wrote: »
    Im pretty sure my trainer is a perv. He insist that we do 3 sets of squats but he stands behind me staring. Either he doesnt realize or he doesnt care that i can see him in the mirror. At the end of our sessions he pats me on the butt. Knowing that my butt is big i wear sweatpants or a long shirt but it doesnt make a difference. Am i the only woman who gets perved on in the gym?

    If you are not comfrotable being looked at, then you should not be working with a trainer, and definitely should not be squatting in public. It is his job to look at you so he can correct things, and it is also normal, as you will find out, for other people to look too. If you are squatting, someone will look at your butt, and the same will happen wth other body parts depending on exercise. It happens, even when people are not interested in you in any way.
    As for touching, if you are not comfortable and this is his style, you are not a good match. He probably cannot even remember you told him not to do it, it does not sound sexual at all, but if it is bothering you, just get rid of him. Or if you want to give this one more try, have a talk with him about you not liking people touching you and explaining he should not do this again. Leave sexuality and your husband out of it.

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  • professionalHobbyist
    professionalHobbyist Posts: 1,316 Member
    Hmmm

    I have worked out with women and spotting doing squats involved hands on the others hips, very close proximity

    But no *kitten* patting required

    That is crossing a line. And you even mentioned it crosses a line.

    Fire his dumba$$ and get another trainer. Maybe you have learned enough to not need one?

    Anyway, women look at bootys too when men do squats, but there is such a thing as discrete and respectful.

    Too bad your trainer has not learned those two life skills

    Oh well...
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    aggelikik wrote: »
    CipherZero wrote: »
    rasheedahj wrote: »
    At the end of our sessions he pats me on the butt.

    A VERY loud "Keep your god-damned hands off my *kitten* you pervert" will prevent future misunderstandings.

    And will probably (1) end the relationship with the trainer and (2) make her stand out as the crazy lady in the gym, especially if this is done in a friendly way. Calling someone a pervert is not a joke.

    Then they should probably strive harder to not be such a pervert
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    tomatoey wrote: »
    rdkstar wrote: »
    slaite1 wrote: »

    These specifically. "You're being judgemental....don't jump to conclusions" he's touching her a**, these responses immediately got my hackles up. It's simply not ok for someone to touch you-especially if you asked them not to.

    I think you are taking it the wrong way. We are not saying that he is right. I'm suggesting that he might be just an idiot and not a perv. She needs to tell him again not to touch. However, you do have to realize there are lots of sports that do this. Doesn't make it right but doesn't make them either pervs.

    To me it's not so much about perving as it is about a man just straight up ignoring what a woman tells him and doing what he likes because he wants to. OP isn't a baseball player. She's a client.

    Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!

    It's exactly this. You don't have to be a genius in customer relations or a complete prude to simply follow the instructions given by your client.

    Rule #1: Keep it professional.
    Rule #2: If you're too clueless to recognize the parameters of Rule #1, then at least listen to what your client tells you.
    Rule #3: If you can't abide by Rules #1 and 2, then find a new line of work cuz u gonna get fired sooner or later. And deservedly so.
  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
    tomatoey wrote: »
    It also makes trainers look bad.

    This made me LOL, no it doesnt. I dont think any less of ninerbuff just because some trainer somewhere else may have crossed the line. Crazy logic.
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,459 Member
    edited May 2015
    999tigger wrote: »
    tomatoey wrote: »
    It also makes trainers look bad.

    This made me LOL, no it doesnt. I dont think any less of ninerbuff just because some trainer somewhere else may have crossed the line. Crazy logic.

    How is that crazy? Professional associations of all kinds (for eg teachers, doctors) hold normative standards for general behaviour because they know idiots reflect badly on their respective professions.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    tomatoey wrote: »
    999tigger wrote: »
    tomatoey wrote: »
    It also makes trainers look bad.

    This made me LOL, no it doesnt. I dont think any less of ninerbuff just because some trainer somewhere else may have crossed the line. Crazy logic.

    How is that crazy? Professional associations of all kinds (for eg teachers, doctors) hold normative standards for general behaviour because they know idiots reflect badly on their respective professions.

    All due respect, no it doesn't. It reflects badly on that person. And perhaps on the organization employing that person. But one random person doing one random bad thing doesn't throw shade on every human being in that industry. So if you here a story about one bad teacher you think that every teacher is bad? Same with doctors?

    What it does do is if you're already biased against a person/thing/organization, you'll use whatever negative info you get as confirmation for your bias. But it don't even matter cuz you already fostered a strong dislike for that particular entity anyway.

    Tl;Dr Haters gonna hate
  • dufus12
    dufus12 Posts: 393 Member
    Anyone reminded of that Friends episode when Chandler's boss kept *kitten* slapping him????
  • JSE81
    JSE81 Posts: 114 Member
    I wish I had a female trainer to slap me on the *kitten* everytime I squat.
  • dufus12
    dufus12 Posts: 393 Member
    As for actual situation - having never had a PT, I am trying to imagine how it would feel like. I would expect him to study my form and that would include my butt in squats,,,,,,,,*kitten* slapping? It would depend on our relationship. If we were jokey and familiar it wouldn't bother me as long as I could goose his *kitten* as well,,,,,,,If we were more formal and I told him I didn't want him to touch me more than he had to, then I would expect him to respect that, These PT must keep notes on their clients - ask for it to be noted on your notes that you don't like to *kitten* slapped,,,,,,,,end of. If he still does it, then I think there is a problem,,,,,,,,,
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,459 Member
    DavPul wrote: »
    tomatoey wrote: »
    999tigger wrote: »
    tomatoey wrote: »
    It also makes trainers look bad.

    This made me LOL, no it doesnt. I dont think any less of ninerbuff just because some trainer somewhere else may have crossed the line. Crazy logic.

    How is that crazy? Professional associations of all kinds (for eg teachers, doctors) hold normative standards for general behaviour because they know idiots reflect badly on their respective professions.

    All due respect, no it doesn't. It reflects badly on that person. And perhaps on the organization employing that person. But one random person doing one random bad thing doesn't throw shade on every human being in that industry. So if you here a story about one bad teacher you think that every teacher is bad? Same with doctors?

    What it does do is if you're already biased against a person/thing/organization, you'll use whatever negative info you get as confirmation for your bias. But it don't even matter cuz you already fostered a strong dislike for that particular entity anyway.

    Tl;Dr Haters gonna hate

    Why, then, do most professional orgs have policies and expectations relating to "good character"? It's considered important enough that people with astoundingly bad character get kicked out of their professions.

    I'm not saying this case was egregious, or even that out of the norm of certain gym cultures, but there are, for example, grounds for a sexual harassment suit here.
  • dufus12
    dufus12 Posts: 393 Member
    JSE81 wrote: »
    I wish I had a female trainer to slap me on the *kitten* everytime I squat.

    Ha!! Funny - I was just thinking if the PT was cute, I wouldn't be complaining,,,,,but clearly OP is.
    Personally I like the idea of getting my butt spanked at the end of a session,,,,,,but that's just me,,,,
  • dufus12
    dufus12 Posts: 393 Member
    OP, you going to have to tell him not to in no uncertain terms, You can couch it, that you know it probably it just habit but if it happens again, then you will take it further, Other women may not notice it, may like it, but you notice it, you dislike it and it has to stop.......Best of luck, Personally I think I would look for another PT cos your relationship is never going to be one of trust by sounds of it,,,,,,