How can I get toned with strength training without looking bulky?
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I'm still wondering if someone can find me a "Madonna is bulky" photo anywhere?0
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lmjohnson110 wrote: »I agree, Madonnas arms look like zombie arms. Jessica's don't look bulky to me in the slightest.
Zombie arms?! I will be a happy woman if my arms look half as good at 56. And no, have to agree, neither Jessica or cherlize look bulky either.
OP as others have said, bulky CANNOT happen by accident.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »
Preach. All this negative talk about having visible lean muscle mass (i.e. buff fest, bulkiness, manliness) is getting me really down. I’ll just go deadlift something heavy now (i.e. heavier than Madonna).0 -
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mamapeach910 wrote: »
Preach. All this negative talk about having visible lean muscle mass (i.e. buff fest, bulkiness, manliness) is getting me really down. I’ll just go deadlift something heavy now (i.e. heavier than Madonna).
I don't get how visible muscle on a woman is unattractive? I wish more and more women would lift weights.
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No bulk, low body fat... that's what that is.0
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yopeeps025 wrote: »I'm still wondering if someone can find me a "Madonna is bulky" photo anywhere?
I got right on that and came across this hilarious article that pokes fun of the popular view of female lifters via stock photos. This one’s my favourite:
A little quote:Also, please don’t lift anything more than 20lbs or you will get gross and bulky like Madonna or Jessica Biel in Blade 3. As long as you keep doing bicep curls in front of the mirror with a bored look on your face after 30 minutes spent on the recumbent bicycle in the “fat loss” zone while reading SELF or PEOPLE, you are guaranteed to look like Jennifer Aniston, who, as we all know (because she constantly reminds us), has achieved the perfect female body through a strict regimen of low-impact yoga and a diet of bottled water and organic macrobiotic vegan salad.
LOL. I’m loving Madonna’s look here:
Can’t beat a good pump.
And yopeeps, I’m with you!0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »
So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
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So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.0 -
I really don't mean to be rude but I always laugh when I see this. " I think I am going to skip golf this weekend as I don't want to end up like Rory McIlroy." Sounds crazy doesn't it. The benefit of lifting weights is a toned, fit appearance, most people will never achieve super bulky muscles and certainly not without trying to eat more and lift a lot of weight consistently.
Go ahead and lift those weights and feel great about it.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »I'm still wondering if someone can find me a "Madonna is bulky" photo anywhere?
I got right on that and came across this hilarious article that pokes fun of the popular view of female lifters via stock photos. This one’s my favourite:
A little quote:Also, please don’t lift anything more than 20lbs or you will get gross and bulky like Madonna or Jessica Biel in Blade 3. As long as you keep doing bicep curls in front of the mirror with a bored look on your face after 30 minutes spent on the recumbent bicycle in the “fat loss” zone while reading SELF or PEOPLE, you are guaranteed to look like Jennifer Aniston, who, as we all know (because she constantly reminds us), has achieved the perfect female body through a strict regimen of low-impact yoga and a diet of bottled water and organic macrobiotic vegan salad.
LOL. I’m loving Madonna’s look here:
Can’t beat a good pump.
And yopeeps, I’m with you!
That article is hilarious, and the blog exceptionally well-named. (but is not any relation)0 -
So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
It doesn't bother me that you find her low body fat% a problem. Calling it bulky is the problem because she is not bulky in those pics.
If your body fat drops to low than you can switch to eating in surplus and gain more fat to cover the muscle definition.0 -
So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You’re more than welcome to your opinion, even if our opinions are different. One thing I don’t get though is what people who think that’s bulky (i.e. yourself) consider to be an ideal look. Can you post some photos/links? I’m actually curious.
@HeySwoleSister Glad you enjoyed it! And lol @ the name, that’s pretty funny.0 -
So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You’re more than welcome to your opinion, even if our opinions are different. One thing I don’t get though is what people who think that’s bulky (i.e. yourself) consider to be an ideal look. Can you post some photos/links? I’m actually curious.
@HeySwoleSister Glad you enjoyed it! And lol @ the name, that’s pretty funny.
My favorite quote goes with the photo in your post: IMMA GET SO TONE!0 -
Here's an article by Bret Contreras on this subject that you might find helpful:
http://bretcontreras.com/how-to-attain-a-slender-look-like-jessica-alba-zoe-saldana/
He has a program (book) called Strong Curves, he has a program without much upper body work for women with your goals. He has a body weight only version in the book, you could do it from home.0 -
Arnold Schwarzenegger once answered this pretty funnily
Arnold: I encourage everyone to lift weights, it is good for everyone.
Reporter: But I don't want to get big like you.
Arnold: Don't worry, you never will.0 -
So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You’re more than welcome to your opinion, even if our opinions are different. One thing I don’t get though is what people who think that’s bulky (i.e. yourself) consider to be an ideal look. Can you post some photos/links? I’m actually curious.
@HeySwoleSister Glad you enjoyed it! And lol @ the name, that’s pretty funny.
I am going to guess that it is a woman with more body fat than shredded Madonna. I think she would find younger more body fat Madonna more attractive than shredded Madonna.
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So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
What? The problem with lifting is you can't decide where you lose fat? Um, you can never decide where you lose fat.0 -
So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You don't just "end up with arms more defined than you'd like", while eating in a way that will provide a flat belly. Just, flat out, ain't gonna happen. If, while losing weight, and lifting, you find your arms, or legs, or pinky muscles to be progressing toward a look you find unappealing, simply change your method of exercise. But nobody accidentally turns out bulky, lean, defined, fat, or obese.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »I'm still wondering if someone can find me a "Madonna is bulky" photo anywhere?
I got right on that and came across this hilarious article that pokes fun of the popular view of female lifters via stock photos. This one’s my favourite:
A little quote:Also, please don’t lift anything more than 20lbs or you will get gross and bulky like Madonna or Jessica Biel in Blade 3. As long as you keep doing bicep curls in front of the mirror with a bored look on your face after 30 minutes spent on the recumbent bicycle in the “fat loss” zone while reading SELF or PEOPLE, you are guaranteed to look like Jennifer Aniston, who, as we all know (because she constantly reminds us), has achieved the perfect female body through a strict regimen of low-impact yoga and a diet of bottled water and organic macrobiotic vegan salad.
LOL. I’m loving Madonna’s look here:
Can’t beat a good pump.
And yopeeps, I’m with you!
If she has what I find a lifter personality has then yes she would be consider attractive to me. The sites says arms wow or eww. Look at her shoulder definition. That stuck out first before the biceps.
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mantium999 wrote: »My brain hurts from this thread. I don't see how "bulky" can be subjective, in the context being discussed. Lean with visible muscle, cannot be perceived as "bulky". Bulk, by definition, means mass. Madonna and Jessica, in no way, have a high level of mass. In fact, their musculature is visible on account of removing unwanted mass (fat). Now, if you want to argue that you don't like the appearance of a woman with low body fat, sure, people are attracted to different things, and that is a valid discussion. But choosing to call lean, low body fat women "bulky" is a failed choice of words, and is probably what leads to these debates. Terminology matters.
Thank you. I was just trying to formulate this response after reading the "Madonna is too bulky" line. Too skinny, yes. Bulky? No way.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
It doesn't bother me that you find her low body fat% a problem. Calling it bulky is the problem because she is not bulky in those pics.
If your body fat drops to low than you can switch to eating in surplus and gain more fat to cover the muscle definition.
I don't see the point. And I don't understand why it's so hard for some people to get that some women don't necessarily want more muscle anyway?mantium999 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You don't just "end up with arms more defined than you'd like", while eating in a way that will provide a flat belly. Just, flat out, ain't gonna happen. If, while losing weight, and lifting, you find your arms, or legs, or pinky muscles to be progressing toward a look you find unappealing, simply change your method of exercise. But nobody accidentally turns out bulky, lean, defined, fat, or obese.
Actually, yeah. I like my arms right now. I don't want them more defined. But if I start focusing more on lifting to lose more fat in my midsection, I will probably end up losing fat in my arms too, which is what I don't want.So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You’re more than welcome to your opinion, even if our opinions are different. One thing I don’t get though is what people who think that’s bulky (i.e. yourself) consider to be an ideal look. Can you post some photos/links? I’m actually curious.
@HeySwoleSister Glad you enjoyed it! And lol @ the name, that’s pretty funny.
Sure.
There's just no way I could get there because my arms look like hers, but I still have fat in my midsection because genetics. So again... either it's more muscular arms (because lower body fat on them) or a flat belly (ok, if I didn't have loose skin) for me.
All I'm saying is that no, it's not always possible to get the look you're looking for depending on your genetics. I'd probably end up with arms like Madonna before I lose the rest of my belly/hip fat... which looks 'muscular' and 'bulky' to me. I think it's what people mean when they say that they don't want to get bulky by lifting... I don't want arms like that. Legs I don't care, but they're pretty lean and muscular already as well (because again, all my fat is in my midsection, lol).
I guess we all have different ideas of what we want and what we find attractive.
She does but again, everyone who lifts won't end like that. My arms would look way more defined than hers by the time I get her belly.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
It doesn't bother me that you find her low body fat% a problem. Calling it bulky is the problem because she is not bulky in those pics.
If your body fat drops to low than you can switch to eating in surplus and gain more fat to cover the muscle definition.
I don't see the point. And I don't understand why it's so hard for some people to get that some women don't necessarily want more muscle anyway?mantium999 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You don't just "end up with arms more defined than you'd like", while eating in a way that will provide a flat belly. Just, flat out, ain't gonna happen. If, while losing weight, and lifting, you find your arms, or legs, or pinky muscles to be progressing toward a look you find unappealing, simply change your method of exercise. But nobody accidentally turns out bulky, lean, defined, fat, or obese.
Actually, yeah. I like my arms right now. I don't want them more defined. But if I start focusing more on lifting to lose more fat in my midsection, I will probably end up losing fat in my arms too, which is what I don't want.So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You’re more than welcome to your opinion, even if our opinions are different. One thing I don’t get though is what people who think that’s bulky (i.e. yourself) consider to be an ideal look. Can you post some photos/links? I’m actually curious.
@HeySwoleSister Glad you enjoyed it! And lol @ the name, that’s pretty funny.
Sure.
There's just no way I could get there because my arms look like hers, but I still have fat in my midsection because genetics. So again... either it's more muscular arms (because lower body fat on them) or a flat belly (ok, if I didn't have loose skin) for me.
All I'm saying is that no, it's not always possible to get the look you're looking for depending on your genetics. I'd probably end up with arms like Madonna before I lose the rest of my belly/hip fat... which looks 'muscular' and 'bulky' to me. I think it's what people mean when they say that they don't want to get bulky by lifting... I don't want arms like that. Legs I don't care, but they're pretty lean and muscular already as well (because again, all my fat is in my midsection, lol).
I guess we all have different ideas of what we want and what we find attractive.
She does but again, everyone who lifts won't end like that. My arms would look way more defined than hers by the time I get her belly.
Interesting the unknown drive you to be where you are. I would understand if you said my body fat got too low for my stomach to be flat and my arms were too defined. You saying probably makes this funny to me.
You don't understand that using wrong terminology is a problem?
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
It doesn't bother me that you find her low body fat% a problem. Calling it bulky is the problem because she is not bulky in those pics.
If your body fat drops to low than you can switch to eating in surplus and gain more fat to cover the muscle definition.
I don't see the point. And I don't understand why it's so hard for some people to get that some women don't necessarily want more muscle anyway?mantium999 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You don't just "end up with arms more defined than you'd like", while eating in a way that will provide a flat belly. Just, flat out, ain't gonna happen. If, while losing weight, and lifting, you find your arms, or legs, or pinky muscles to be progressing toward a look you find unappealing, simply change your method of exercise. But nobody accidentally turns out bulky, lean, defined, fat, or obese.
Actually, yeah. I like my arms right now. I don't want them more defined. But if I start focusing more on lifting to lose more fat in my midsection, I will probably end up losing fat in my arms too, which is what I don't want.So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You’re more than welcome to your opinion, even if our opinions are different. One thing I don’t get though is what people who think that’s bulky (i.e. yourself) consider to be an ideal look. Can you post some photos/links? I’m actually curious.
@HeySwoleSister Glad you enjoyed it! And lol @ the name, that’s pretty funny.
Sure.
There's just no way I could get there because my arms look like hers, but I still have fat in my midsection because genetics. So again... either it's more muscular arms (because lower body fat on them) or a flat belly (ok, if I didn't have loose skin) for me.
All I'm saying is that no, it's not always possible to get the look you're looking for depending on your genetics. I'd probably end up with arms like Madonna before I lose the rest of my belly/hip fat... which looks 'muscular' and 'bulky' to me. I think it's what people mean when they say that they don't want to get bulky by lifting... I don't want arms like that. Legs I don't care, but they're pretty lean and muscular already as well (because again, all my fat is in my midsection, lol).
I guess we all have different ideas of what we want and what we find attractive.
She does but again, everyone who lifts won't end like that. My arms would look way more defined than hers by the time I get her belly.
Interesting the unknown drive you to be where you are. I would understand if you said my body fat got too low for my stomach to be flat and my arms were too defined. You saying probably makes this funny to me.
You don't understand that using wrong terminology is a problem?
I don't see why it's such a big deal... because again I'm quite sure that for a lot of women, Madonna DOES look bulky.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
It doesn't bother me that you find her low body fat% a problem. Calling it bulky is the problem because she is not bulky in those pics.
If your body fat drops to low than you can switch to eating in surplus and gain more fat to cover the muscle definition.
I don't see the point. And I don't understand why it's so hard for some people to get that some women don't necessarily want more muscle anyway?mantium999 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You don't just "end up with arms more defined than you'd like", while eating in a way that will provide a flat belly. Just, flat out, ain't gonna happen. If, while losing weight, and lifting, you find your arms, or legs, or pinky muscles to be progressing toward a look you find unappealing, simply change your method of exercise. But nobody accidentally turns out bulky, lean, defined, fat, or obese.
Actually, yeah. I like my arms right now. I don't want them more defined. But if I start focusing more on lifting to lose more fat in my midsection, I will probably end up losing fat in my arms too, which is what I don't want.So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You’re more than welcome to your opinion, even if our opinions are different. One thing I don’t get though is what people who think that’s bulky (i.e. yourself) consider to be an ideal look. Can you post some photos/links? I’m actually curious.
@HeySwoleSister Glad you enjoyed it! And lol @ the name, that’s pretty funny.
Sure.
There's just no way I could get there because my arms look like hers, but I still have fat in my midsection because genetics. So again... either it's more muscular arms (because lower body fat on them) or a flat belly (ok, if I didn't have loose skin) for me.
All I'm saying is that no, it's not always possible to get the look you're looking for depending on your genetics. I'd probably end up with arms like Madonna before I lose the rest of my belly/hip fat... which looks 'muscular' and 'bulky' to me. I think it's what people mean when they say that they don't want to get bulky by lifting... I don't want arms like that. Legs I don't care, but they're pretty lean and muscular already as well (because again, all my fat is in my midsection, lol).
I guess we all have different ideas of what we want and what we find attractive.
She does but again, everyone who lifts won't end like that. My arms would look way more defined than hers by the time I get her belly.
Interesting the unknown drive you to be where you are. I would understand if you said my body fat got too low for my stomach to be flat and my arms were too defined. You saying probably makes this funny to me.
You don't understand that using wrong terminology is a problem?
I don't see why it's such a big deal... because again I'm quite sure that for a lot of women, Madonna DOES look bulky.
She does well lets see.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
It doesn't bother me that you find her low body fat% a problem. Calling it bulky is the problem because she is not bulky in those pics.
If your body fat drops to low than you can switch to eating in surplus and gain more fat to cover the muscle definition.
I don't see the point. And I don't understand why it's so hard for some people to get that some women don't necessarily want more muscle anyway?mantium999 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You don't just "end up with arms more defined than you'd like", while eating in a way that will provide a flat belly. Just, flat out, ain't gonna happen. If, while losing weight, and lifting, you find your arms, or legs, or pinky muscles to be progressing toward a look you find unappealing, simply change your method of exercise. But nobody accidentally turns out bulky, lean, defined, fat, or obese.
Actually, yeah. I like my arms right now. I don't want them more defined. But if I start focusing more on lifting to lose more fat in my midsection, I will probably end up losing fat in my arms too, which is what I don't want.So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You’re more than welcome to your opinion, even if our opinions are different. One thing I don’t get though is what people who think that’s bulky (i.e. yourself) consider to be an ideal look. Can you post some photos/links? I’m actually curious.
@HeySwoleSister Glad you enjoyed it! And lol @ the name, that’s pretty funny.
Sure.
There's just no way I could get there because my arms look like hers, but I still have fat in my midsection because genetics. So again... either it's more muscular arms (because lower body fat on them) or a flat belly (ok, if I didn't have loose skin) for me.
All I'm saying is that no, it's not always possible to get the look you're looking for depending on your genetics. I'd probably end up with arms like Madonna before I lose the rest of my belly/hip fat... which looks 'muscular' and 'bulky' to me. I think it's what people mean when they say that they don't want to get bulky by lifting... I don't want arms like that. Legs I don't care, but they're pretty lean and muscular already as well (because again, all my fat is in my midsection, lol).
I guess we all have different ideas of what we want and what we find attractive.
She does but again, everyone who lifts won't end like that. My arms would look way more defined than hers by the time I get her belly.
Interesting the unknown drive you to be where you are. I would understand if you said my body fat got too low for my stomach to be flat and my arms were too defined. You saying probably makes this funny to me.
You don't understand that using wrong terminology is a problem?
I don't see why it's such a big deal... because again I'm quite sure that for a lot of women, Madonna DOES look bulky.
Misunderstanding a term and applying it inappropriately so that others will also misunderstand is actually a pretty big deal. A great example of this is "starvation mode."0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
It doesn't bother me that you find her low body fat% a problem. Calling it bulky is the problem because she is not bulky in those pics.
If your body fat drops to low than you can switch to eating in surplus and gain more fat to cover the muscle definition.
I don't see the point. And I don't understand why it's so hard for some people to get that some women don't necessarily want more muscle anyway?mantium999 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You don't just "end up with arms more defined than you'd like", while eating in a way that will provide a flat belly. Just, flat out, ain't gonna happen. If, while losing weight, and lifting, you find your arms, or legs, or pinky muscles to be progressing toward a look you find unappealing, simply change your method of exercise. But nobody accidentally turns out bulky, lean, defined, fat, or obese.
Actually, yeah. I like my arms right now. I don't want them more defined. But if I start focusing more on lifting to lose more fat in my midsection, I will probably end up losing fat in my arms too, which is what I don't want.So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
You’re more than welcome to your opinion, even if our opinions are different. One thing I don’t get though is what people who think that’s bulky (i.e. yourself) consider to be an ideal look. Can you post some photos/links? I’m actually curious.
@HeySwoleSister Glad you enjoyed it! And lol @ the name, that’s pretty funny.
Sure.
There's just no way I could get there because my arms look like hers, but I still have fat in my midsection because genetics. So again... either it's more muscular arms (because lower body fat on them) or a flat belly (ok, if I didn't have loose skin) for me.
All I'm saying is that no, it's not always possible to get the look you're looking for depending on your genetics. I'd probably end up with arms like Madonna before I lose the rest of my belly/hip fat... which looks 'muscular' and 'bulky' to me. I think it's what people mean when they say that they don't want to get bulky by lifting... I don't want arms like that. Legs I don't care, but they're pretty lean and muscular already as well (because again, all my fat is in my midsection, lol).
I guess we all have different ideas of what we want and what we find attractive.
She does but again, everyone who lifts won't end like that. My arms would look way more defined than hers by the time I get her belly.
Interesting the unknown drive you to be where you are. I would understand if you said my body fat got too low for my stomach to be flat and my arms were too defined. You saying probably makes this funny to me.
You don't understand that using wrong terminology is a problem?
I don't see why it's such a big deal... because again I'm quite sure that for a lot of women, Madonna DOES look bulky.
"Bulky: taking up much space, typically inconveniently; large and unwieldy."
So you think Madonna looks large and unwieldy? Muscular, maybe. Low-fat, sure. But bulky? It doesn't compute.0
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