Recomposition: Maintaining weight while losing fat
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To keep my carbs and fat low, i have to consume calories of something. So protein is what fills in the calorie spaces for me.0
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So then the question is why are you keeping your carbs and fats low?0
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I believe the general estimate is each pound of fat contributes around 4 calories to BMR, so yeah, 7 pounds is probably a 28 calorie difference. That's going to get swallowed in the variability of TDEE.
Yep. However, I think that is the impact on BMR. There will be a bigger impact on TDEE as you are basically moving more weigh around (assuming you are staying at a consistent BF) - still not a huge impact though.
I think that the benefits are mainly gained through the act of lifting - the caloric burn during, and after, which includes the energy expended buy you to actually build muscle (repairing the damage), similar to when your body is trying to recover from an illness or injury (hypermetabolism).
That being said, the impact of muscle in its resting state is usually overstated - as you mention, its not that much at all.0 -
I believe the general estimate is each pound of fat contributes around 4 calories to BMR, so yeah, 7 pounds is probably a 28 calorie difference. That's going to get swallowed in the variability of TDEE.
Yep. However, I think that is the impact on BMR. There will be a bigger impact on TDEE as you are basically moving more weigh around (assuming you are staying at a consistent BF) - still not a huge impact though.
I think that the benefits are mainly gained through the act of lifting - the caloric burn during, and after, which includes the energy expended buy you to actually build muscle (repairing the damage), similar to when your body is trying to recover from an illness or injury (hypermetabolism).
You mean you don't strap weights to yourself for every pound you lose to keep TDEE the same? You're weird.2 -
So that my body utilizes the fat stored on me thereby loosing fat while maintaining as much muscle as possible.0
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I believe the general estimate is each pound of fat contributes around 4 calories to BMR, so yeah, 7 pounds is probably a 28 calorie difference. That's going to get swallowed in the variability of TDEE.
Yep. However, I think that is the impact on BMR. There will be a bigger impact on TDEE as you are basically moving more weigh around (assuming you are staying at a consistent BF) - still not a huge impact though.
I think that the benefits are mainly gained through the act of lifting - the caloric burn during, and after, which includes the energy expended buy you to actually build muscle (repairing the damage), similar to when your body is trying to recover from an illness or injury (hypermetabolism).
You mean you don't strap weights to yourself for every pound you lose to keep TDEE the same? You're weird.
And ugghh...typo in my post - I hate seeing them after someone has quoted me lol.0 -
Wouldn't a slight calorie deficit do the same?LiftingRiot wrote: »So that my body utilizes the fat stored on me thereby loosing fat while maintaining as much muscle as possible.0 -
LiftingRiot wrote: »So that my body utilizes the fat stored on me thereby loosing fat while maintaining as much muscle as possible.
It does not work that way. Dietary fat and carbs do not turn into body fat (well, dietary fat technically does but its not a 1:1 ratio or a direct relationship). In simplistic terms: You use carbs for energy (they can get stored as fats but this is not common). You use protein for energy and for muscle growth. Dietary fats get used for fat storage and energy. Your body balances out the use of these macros and will partition them to basically end up at the same place, irrespective of the composition (that is assuming you do not have a totally extreme diet and also get sufficient protein).
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Wouldn't a slight calorie deficit do the same?LiftingRiot wrote: »So that my body utilizes the fat stored on me thereby loosing fat while maintaining as much muscle as possible.
Yep - if you are losing fat but maintaining muscle, you have to be in a deficit.0 -
I already am in a deficit. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/30-days-out-craig-capursos-extreme-cut-trainer-nutrition.html
That is the diet i am doing. Its really a cut0 -
LiftingRiot wrote: »I already am in a deficit. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/30-days-out-craig-capursos-extreme-cut-trainer-nutrition.html
That is the diet i am doing. Its really a cut
That is a terrible plan imo. I put my stats in - has me at 245g protein - totally unnecessary. The fats are horribly low (low fat = low test, low test = less ability to build muscle btw). Carbs are horribly low - and with such low fats, it is a bad idea imo.
Short term..meh....long term...terrible.0 -
LiftingRiot wrote: »So that my body utilizes the fat stored on me thereby loosing fat while maintaining as much muscle as possible.
My best understanding is that once you hit the effective limit for protein . muscle sparring for having .8 g /LBM the only thing that is going to spare any more is having a lower deficit, and the macros for having a lower deficit doesn't matter.0 -
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This is definitely short term. Nothing i care to maintain for a while. Its just to get my stomach back and then ill once again slowly build0
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LiftingRiot wrote: »I already am in a deficit. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/30-days-out-craig-capursos-extreme-cut-trainer-nutrition.html
That is the diet i am doing. Its really a cut
his facial expression is very serious in the pic at the top of that diet guide
so this must be a very srs diet1 -
Not that I like this kind of reasoning in general, but you do know that any bodybuilding.com plan is going to be biased towards getting you to buy protein shakes, right?0
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Thats why its extreme like it says and damn its expensive to eat that much protein0
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Lol. I actually only drink one protein shake a day and fill the rest with chick, steak, tuna, and turkey.0
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LiftingRiot wrote: »So that my body utilizes the fat stored on me thereby loosing fat while maintaining as much muscle as possible.
That's not quite how it works. You aren't going to magically store carbs or fat if you are in maintenance or a deficit.0 -
The fat that is stored on me. Im not hoping to store any carbs or fat. Its to get rid of my fat.1
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LiftingRiot wrote: »This is definitely short term. Nothing i care to maintain for a while. Its just to get my stomach back and then ill once again slowly build
Its supposed to be a 30 day plan. I would not do it for one day. Its basically keto - it will take a while to adapt - you will likely get headaches etc at first and keto should have adequate fats, which this does not.
As its severely lacking in fats and fiber - good luck pewping!1 -
LiftingRiot wrote: »The fat that is stored on me. Im not hoping to store any carbs or fat. Its to get rid of my fat.
You are going to burn the fat on you if you eat in a deficit while lifting and eating around .8g/lb LBM of protein. The plan you have been following is ridiculous and unnecessary.0 -
Lol yeah. I do feel different since i started it. Ill post before and after when im done. My stance is that its only 30 days. I can live with that.0
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LiftingRiot wrote: »Lol yeah. I do feel different since i started it. Ill post before and after when im done. My stance is that its only 30 days. I can live with that.
My stance is that you'll get the same results in those 30 days as you would any other 30 days if you followed the calorie goal, but more balanced macros.0 -
And when a program or diet asks if you are an endomorph, mesomorph or ectomorph it is totally full of *kitten*.1
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I understand that everyone is an expert on here. Im sure everyone has tried multiple things until they finally settled what works best for them. I am constantly growing and adapting (as a Marine always should). 30 days out of my life will not kill me... if it does, warn everyone else.0
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Somatypes? I never understood why anyone thought they made any sense. Maybe I'm prejudiced in that I had what would be called an endomorph frame, but what would have been called an ectomorph personality.And when a program or diet asks if you are an endomorph, mesomorph or ectomorph it is totally full of *kitten*.
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LiftingRiot wrote: »I understand that everyone is an expert on here. Im sure everyone has tried multiple things until they finally settled what works best for them. I am constantly growing and adapting (as a Marine always should). 30 days out of my life will not kill me... if it does, warn everyone else.
I prefer balance and not following broscience.0
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