Please Share The Top 5 Things To Do To Lose Weight
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nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »@nataliecatalie00 Since you're obviously far superior in your diet knowledge, perhaps you'd enlighten us dull fatties how "no animal products" and "smoothie every morning for breakfast" can make us all skinny.
I didn't say I was superior, that's your perception. I've eaten 2500 to 3000 calories and lost and maintained weight with minimal exercise. A lot of people aren't willing to do that, and at first I was scared to do it as well but if your only eating natural plant based foods, when it comes down to it, you don't have to have a calorie deficit.
I have a couple 250+ lb vegetarian/vegan friends who would heavily disagree with that statement.
Just because they are vegan means there healthy. I'm talking about natural plant based foods...not from a package. If you eat foods such as fruit, veggies, nuts, and such.
So if you eat at a calorie surplus, but it's fruits/veggies/nuts "and such"...you won't gain weight?!
Yup. And its not just a "I have good metabolism" because when I was in my teens I ate the typical weight loss diet of lean meat, yogurt, and some fruits and veggies with a calorie deficit and I was never over weight but I weighed more than I do now.
I'm sorry, but this is just false. You weren't counting calories properly. It's just not how the science works. Perhaps someone can post some good reading for you.
You can't tell me that I was doing something wrong. I know how to count calories. I have a scale and I can do math. And if you look at all the things in the past the "science" has proven and then we find out it was wrong or there is some new better way, you can be open minded to other things. Plus trying something for yourself is always the best way before you judge it. And I know how to research, I have my degree in psychology and have been trained to find and analyze scientific articles.
good, please link us to the peer reviewed study where you can lose weight in a caloric surplus….
Apparently she is her own study and n1 is enough to claim hard facts.
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Really guys? That is boring. Enjoy your boring calorie deficit life style, but saying that isnt helpful to people starting out.
How about...
1. Cardio, sweat your butt off!
2. Eat clean fresh fruit and veggies with every meal and snack
3. skip the high calorie drinks and enjoy a clod glass of water with some lemon or other fruit in it instead
4. get proper sleep so you have the energy to be more active, so you can burn more calories through out the day
5. The best exercise is the kind that doesnt feel like exercise. So sports, dancing, hikng etc.
1. Increases your calorie deficit
2. Low calorie/high nutrient - Increases your calorie deficit
3. Increases your calorie deficit
4. Being more active increases your calorie deficit
5. Exercise increases your calorie deficit
So, we're in agreement and you're just as 'boring' as everyone else.0 -
nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »@nataliecatalie00 Since you're obviously far superior in your diet knowledge, perhaps you'd enlighten us dull fatties how "no animal products" and "smoothie every morning for breakfast" can make us all skinny.
I didn't say I was superior, that's your perception. I've eaten 2500 to 3000 calories and lost and maintained weight with minimal exercise. A lot of people aren't willing to do that, and at first I was scared to do it as well but if your only eating natural plant based foods, when it comes down to it, you don't have to have a calorie deficit.
I have a couple 250+ lb vegetarian/vegan friends who would heavily disagree with that statement.
Just because they are vegan means there healthy. I'm talking about natural plant based foods...not from a package. If you eat foods such as fruit, veggies, nuts, and such.
So if you eat at a calorie surplus, but it's fruits/veggies/nuts "and such"...you won't gain weight?!
Yup. And its not just a "I have good metabolism" because when I was in my teens I ate the typical weight loss diet of lean meat, yogurt, and some fruits and veggies with a calorie deficit and I was never over weight but I weighed more than I do now.
I'm sorry, but this is just false. You weren't counting calories properly. It's just not how the science works. Perhaps someone can post some good reading for you.
You can't tell me that I was doing something wrong. I know how to count calories. I have a scale and I can do math. And if you look at all the things in the past the "science" has proven and then we find out it was wrong or there is some new better way, you can be open minded to other things. Plus trying something for yourself is always the best way before you judge it. And I know how to research, I have my degree in psychology and have been trained to find and analyze scientific articles.
Oh, sorry. Can you post the studies you have read that explain that you can eat in a calorie surplus and lose weight?0 -
nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »@nataliecatalie00 Since you're obviously far superior in your diet knowledge, perhaps you'd enlighten us dull fatties how "no animal products" and "smoothie every morning for breakfast" can make us all skinny.
I didn't say I was superior, that's your perception. I've eaten 2500 to 3000 calories and lost and maintained weight with minimal exercise. A lot of people aren't willing to do that, and at first I was scared to do it as well but if your only eating natural plant based foods, when it comes down to it, you don't have to have a calorie deficit.
I have a couple 250+ lb vegetarian/vegan friends who would heavily disagree with that statement.
Just because they are vegan means there healthy. I'm talking about natural plant based foods...not from a package. If you eat foods such as fruit, veggies, nuts, and such.
So if you eat at a calorie surplus, but it's fruits/veggies/nuts "and such"...you won't gain weight?!
Yup. And its not just a "I have good metabolism" because when I was in my teens I ate the typical weight loss diet of lean meat, yogurt, and some fruits and veggies with a calorie deficit and I was never over weight but I weighed more than I do now.
I'm sorry, but this is just false. You weren't counting calories properly. It's just not how the science works. Perhaps someone can post some good reading for you.
You can't tell me that I was doing something wrong. I know how to count calories. I have a scale and I can do math. And if you look at all the things in the past the "science" has proven and then we find out it was wrong or there is some new better way, you can be open minded to other things. Plus trying something for yourself is always the best way before you judge it. And I know how to research, I have my degree in psychology and have been trained to find and analyze scientific articles.
good, please link us to the peer reviewed study where you can lose weight in a caloric surplus….
I'm curious to see what "journal" would publish it.
My guess is it would be a journal similar to the one that published this "study".
http://io9.com/i-fooled-millions-into-thinking-chocolate-helps-weight-17072518000 -
UltimateRBF wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »I think it's time for this gif since we've obviously exited the land of basic science and entered the realm of....
You can say that all you want but you never actually know until you try. I thought it sounded absurd at first but instead of declaring it magic I actually tried it and it worked. I found out for myself.
Yeah...no. Science disagrees with you. As do I. The scenario you're describing is literally impossible.
But what do I know, I'm just a fatty, right?
I didn't say you were a fatty. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to go to someone on advice to lose weight, your probably going to pick the thinner/ fitter person. It's not rude, it's just smart.-1 -
lemonsnowdrop wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »@nataliecatalie00 Since you're obviously far superior in your diet knowledge, perhaps you'd enlighten us dull fatties how "no animal products" and "smoothie every morning for breakfast" can make us all skinny.
I didn't say I was superior, that's your perception. I've eaten 2500 to 3000 calories and lost and maintained weight with minimal exercise. A lot of people aren't willing to do that, and at first I was scared to do it as well but if your only eating natural plant based foods, when it comes down to it, you don't have to have a calorie deficit.
I have a couple 250+ lb vegetarian/vegan friends who would heavily disagree with that statement.
Just because they are vegan means there healthy. I'm talking about natural plant based foods...not from a package. If you eat foods such as fruit, veggies, nuts, and such.
So if you eat at a calorie surplus, but it's fruits/veggies/nuts "and such"...you won't gain weight?!
Yup. And its not just a "I have good metabolism" because when I was in my teens I ate the typical weight loss diet of lean meat, yogurt, and some fruits and veggies with a calorie deficit and I was never over weight but I weighed more than I do now.
I'm sorry, but this is just false. You weren't counting calories properly. It's just not how the science works. Perhaps someone can post some good reading for you.
You can't tell me that I was doing something wrong. I know how to count calories. I have a scale and I can do math. And if you look at all the things in the past the "science" has proven and then we find out it was wrong or there is some new better way, you can be open minded to other things. Plus trying something for yourself is always the best way before you judge it. And I know how to research, I have my degree in psychology and have been trained to find and analyze scientific articles.
good, please link us to the peer reviewed study where you can lose weight in a caloric surplus….
Apparently she is her own study and n1 is enough to claim hard facts.
is that published in the journal of me?0 -
nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »I think it's time for this gif since we've obviously exited the land of basic science and entered the realm of....
You can say that all you want but you never actually know until you try. I thought it sounded absurd at first but instead of declaring it magic I actually tried it and it worked. I found out for myself.
Yeah...no. Science disagrees with you. As do I. The scenario you're describing is literally impossible.
But what do I know, I'm just a fatty, right?
I didn't say you were a fatty. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to go to someone on advice to lose weight, your probably going to pick the thinner/ fitter person. It's not rude, it's just smart.
No...I'm going to pick the person who is losing/has lost weight.0 -
arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »I think it's time for this gif since we've obviously exited the land of basic science and entered the realm of....
You can say that all you want but you never actually know until you try. I thought it sounded absurd at first but instead of declaring it magic I actually tried it and it worked. I found out for myself.
Yeah...no. Science disagrees with you. As do I. The scenario you're describing is literally impossible.
But what do I know, I'm just a fatty, right?
I didn't say you were a fatty. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to go to someone on advice to lose weight, your probably going to pick the thinner/ fitter person. It's not rude, it's just smart.
No...I'm going to pick the person who is losing/has lost weight.
Why not the person who has always been thin that has never gotten to the point of being over weight in the first place?-1 -
nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »I think it's time for this gif since we've obviously exited the land of basic science and entered the realm of....
You can say that all you want but you never actually know until you try. I thought it sounded absurd at first but instead of declaring it magic I actually tried it and it worked. I found out for myself.
Yeah...no. Science disagrees with you. As do I. The scenario you're describing is literally impossible.
But what do I know, I'm just a fatty, right?
I didn't say you were a fatty. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to go to someone on advice to lose weight, your probably going to pick the thinner/ fitter person. It's not rude, it's just smart.
yea, thin does not equal nutritional genius.0 -
nataliecatalie00 wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »What is a plant-based food? I'm confused.
Plant based food is food that comes from plants in its most natural form. No animal products. Just a piece of fruit or a potato.
Don't cows and chickens and pigs, etc. eat plants? Would that not be a plant-based food?0 -
nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »I think it's time for this gif since we've obviously exited the land of basic science and entered the realm of....
You can say that all you want but you never actually know until you try. I thought it sounded absurd at first but instead of declaring it magic I actually tried it and it worked. I found out for myself.
Yeah...no. Science disagrees with you. As do I. The scenario you're describing is literally impossible.
But what do I know, I'm just a fatty, right?
I didn't say you were a fatty. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to go to someone on advice to lose weight, your probably going to pick the thinner/ fitter person. It's not rude, it's just smart.
No...I'm going to pick the person who is losing/has lost weight.
Why not the person who has always been thin that has never gotten to the point of being over weight in the first place?
Because this thread is about LOSING weight maybe??
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nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »I think it's time for this gif since we've obviously exited the land of basic science and entered the realm of....
You can say that all you want but you never actually know until you try. I thought it sounded absurd at first but instead of declaring it magic I actually tried it and it worked. I found out for myself.
Yeah...no. Science disagrees with you. As do I. The scenario you're describing is literally impossible.
But what do I know, I'm just a fatty, right?
I didn't say you were a fatty. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to go to someone on advice to lose weight, your probably going to pick the thinner/ fitter person. It's not rude, it's just smart.
No...I'm going to pick the person who is losing/has lost weight.
Why not the person who has always been thin that has never gotten to the point of being over weight in the first place?
No because that person doesn't understand what it is like to lose weight.0 -
well this thread went down in flames on page one…this may be a new record….0
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nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »I think it's time for this gif since we've obviously exited the land of basic science and entered the realm of....
You can say that all you want but you never actually know until you try. I thought it sounded absurd at first but instead of declaring it magic I actually tried it and it worked. I found out for myself.
Yeah...no. Science disagrees with you. As do I. The scenario you're describing is literally impossible.
But what do I know, I'm just a fatty, right?
I didn't say you were a fatty. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to go to someone on advice to lose weight, your probably going to pick the thinner/ fitter person. It's not rude, it's just smart.
No...I'm going to pick the person who is losing/has lost weight.
Why not the person who has always been thin that has never gotten to the point of being over weight in the first place?
Because...they are not experienced in losing weight?0 -
QueenBishOTUniverse wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »@nataliecatalie00 Since you're obviously far superior in your diet knowledge, perhaps you'd enlighten us dull fatties how "no animal products" and "smoothie every morning for breakfast" can make us all skinny.
I didn't say I was superior, that's your perception. I've eaten 2500 to 3000 calories and lost and maintained weight with minimal exercise. A lot of people aren't willing to do that, and at first I was scared to do it as well but if your only eating natural plant based foods, when it comes down to it, you don't have to have a calorie deficit.
I have a couple 250+ lb vegetarian/vegan friends who would heavily disagree with that statement.
Just because they are vegan means there healthy. I'm talking about natural plant based foods...not from a package. If you eat foods such as fruit, veggies, nuts, and such.
So if you eat at a calorie surplus, but it's fruits/veggies/nuts "and such"...you won't gain weight?!
Yup. And its not just a "I have good metabolism" because when I was in my teens I ate the typical weight loss diet of lean meat, yogurt, and some fruits and veggies with a calorie deficit and I was never over weight but I weighed more than I do now.
I'm sorry, but this is just false. You weren't counting calories properly. It's just not how the science works. Perhaps someone can post some good reading for you.
You can't tell me that I was doing something wrong. I know how to count calories. I have a scale and I can do math. And if you look at all the things in the past the "science" has proven and then we find out it was wrong or there is some new better way, you can be open minded to other things. Plus trying something for yourself is always the best way before you judge it. And I know how to research, I have my degree in psychology and have been trained to find and analyze scientific articles.
good, please link us to the peer reviewed study where you can lose weight in a caloric surplus….
I'm curious to see what "journal" would publish it.
My guess is it would be a journal similar to the one that published this "study".
http://io9.com/i-fooled-millions-into-thinking-chocolate-helps-weight-1707251800
I never claimed that I'm basing it on science. I said I was basing it on experience.0 -
nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »I think it's time for this gif since we've obviously exited the land of basic science and entered the realm of....
You can say that all you want but you never actually know until you try. I thought it sounded absurd at first but instead of declaring it magic I actually tried it and it worked. I found out for myself.
Yeah...no. Science disagrees with you. As do I. The scenario you're describing is literally impossible.
But what do I know, I'm just a fatty, right?
I didn't say you were a fatty. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to go to someone on advice to lose weight, your probably going to pick the thinner/ fitter person. It's not rude, it's just smart.
No...I'm going to pick the person who is losing/has lost weight.
Why not the person who has always been thin that has never gotten to the point of being over weight in the first place?
Because all that person is going to tell you, if they know what they're talking about, is "I just don't eat too much for my lifestyle," and where's the controversy in that?
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nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »I think it's time for this gif since we've obviously exited the land of basic science and entered the realm of....
You can say that all you want but you never actually know until you try. I thought it sounded absurd at first but instead of declaring it magic I actually tried it and it worked. I found out for myself.
Yeah...no. Science disagrees with you. As do I. The scenario you're describing is literally impossible.
But what do I know, I'm just a fatty, right?
I didn't say you were a fatty. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to go to someone on advice to lose weight, your probably going to pick the thinner/ fitter person. It's not rude, it's just smart.
No...I'm going to pick the person who is losing/has lost weight.
Why not the person who has always been thin that has never gotten to the point of being over weight in the first place?
DINGDINGDINGDINGDING!
We have a winner.
lololol.
I love MFP bingo.0 -
nataliecatalie00 wrote: »QueenBishOTUniverse wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »@nataliecatalie00 Since you're obviously far superior in your diet knowledge, perhaps you'd enlighten us dull fatties how "no animal products" and "smoothie every morning for breakfast" can make us all skinny.
I didn't say I was superior, that's your perception. I've eaten 2500 to 3000 calories and lost and maintained weight with minimal exercise. A lot of people aren't willing to do that, and at first I was scared to do it as well but if your only eating natural plant based foods, when it comes down to it, you don't have to have a calorie deficit.
I have a couple 250+ lb vegetarian/vegan friends who would heavily disagree with that statement.
Just because they are vegan means there healthy. I'm talking about natural plant based foods...not from a package. If you eat foods such as fruit, veggies, nuts, and such.
So if you eat at a calorie surplus, but it's fruits/veggies/nuts "and such"...you won't gain weight?!
Yup. And its not just a "I have good metabolism" because when I was in my teens I ate the typical weight loss diet of lean meat, yogurt, and some fruits and veggies with a calorie deficit and I was never over weight but I weighed more than I do now.
I'm sorry, but this is just false. You weren't counting calories properly. It's just not how the science works. Perhaps someone can post some good reading for you.
You can't tell me that I was doing something wrong. I know how to count calories. I have a scale and I can do math. And if you look at all the things in the past the "science" has proven and then we find out it was wrong or there is some new better way, you can be open minded to other things. Plus trying something for yourself is always the best way before you judge it. And I know how to research, I have my degree in psychology and have been trained to find and analyze scientific articles.
good, please link us to the peer reviewed study where you can lose weight in a caloric surplus….
I'm curious to see what "journal" would publish it.
My guess is it would be a journal similar to the one that published this "study".
http://io9.com/i-fooled-millions-into-thinking-chocolate-helps-weight-1707251800
I never claimed that I'm basing it on science. I said I was basing it on experience.
I hope you stick around the forums and one day laugh with me over what you just said. Cheers.0 -
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arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »I think it's time for this gif since we've obviously exited the land of basic science and entered the realm of....
You can say that all you want but you never actually know until you try. I thought it sounded absurd at first but instead of declaring it magic I actually tried it and it worked. I found out for myself.
Yeah...no. Science disagrees with you. As do I. The scenario you're describing is literally impossible.
But what do I know, I'm just a fatty, right?
I didn't say you were a fatty. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to go to someone on advice to lose weight, your probably going to pick the thinner/ fitter person. It's not rude, it's just smart.
No...I'm going to pick the person who is losing/has lost weight.
Why not the person who has always been thin that has never gotten to the point of being over weight in the first place?
Because...they are not experienced in losing weight?
And experienced in gaining weight.
I've never been overweight so I was always doing something right. And I have lost weight, not from being overweight though.
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nataliecatalie00 wrote: »@nataliecatalie00 Since you're obviously far superior in your diet knowledge, perhaps you'd enlighten us dull fatties how "no animal products" and "smoothie every morning for breakfast" can make us all skinny.
I didn't say I was superior, that's your perception. I've eaten 2500 to 3000 calories and lost and maintained weight with minimal exercise. A lot of people aren't willing to do that, and at first I was scared to do it as well but if your only eating natural plant based foods, when it comes down to it, you don't have to have a calorie deficit.
hmmm I am a 176 pound male and I gain on 3000 calories….
pretty sure you were not eating that much as you are a female and smaller than me..
also how do you consume 3000 calories a day on a plant based diet…wait, i don't want to know that….
Hah, neither do I!0 -
nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »@nataliecatalie00 Since you're obviously far superior in your diet knowledge, perhaps you'd enlighten us dull fatties how "no animal products" and "smoothie every morning for breakfast" can make us all skinny.
I didn't say I was superior, that's your perception. I've eaten 2500 to 3000 calories and lost and maintained weight with minimal exercise. A lot of people aren't willing to do that, and at first I was scared to do it as well but if your only eating natural plant based foods, when it comes down to it, you don't have to have a calorie deficit.
I have a couple 250+ lb vegetarian/vegan friends who would heavily disagree with that statement.
Just because they are vegan means there healthy. I'm talking about natural plant based foods...not from a package. If you eat foods such as fruit, veggies, nuts, and such.
So if you eat at a calorie surplus, but it's fruits/veggies/nuts "and such"...you won't gain weight?!
Yup. And its not just a "I have good metabolism" because when I was in my teens I ate the typical weight loss diet of lean meat, yogurt, and some fruits and veggies with a calorie deficit and I was never over weight but I weighed more than I do now.
I'm sorry, but this is just false. You weren't counting calories properly. It's just not how the science works. Perhaps someone can post some good reading for you.
You can't tell me that I was doing something wrong. I know how to count calories. I have a scale and I can do math. And if you look at all the things in the past the "science" has proven and then we find out it was wrong or there is some new better way, you can be open minded to other things. Plus trying something for yourself is always the best way before you judge it. And I know how to research, I have my degree in psychology and have been trained to find and analyze scientific articles.
then why did you say that ^0 -
nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »I think it's time for this gif since we've obviously exited the land of basic science and entered the realm of....
You can say that all you want but you never actually know until you try. I thought it sounded absurd at first but instead of declaring it magic I actually tried it and it worked. I found out for myself.
Yeah...no. Science disagrees with you. As do I. The scenario you're describing is literally impossible.
But what do I know, I'm just a fatty, right?
I didn't say you were a fatty. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to go to someone on advice to lose weight, your probably going to pick the thinner/ fitter person. It's not rude, it's just smart.
No...I'm going to pick the person who is losing/has lost weight.
Why not the person who has always been thin that has never gotten to the point of being over weight in the first place?
Because...they are not experienced in losing weight?
And experienced in gaining weight.
I've never been overweight so I was always doing something right. And I have lost weight, not from being overweight though.
Losing weight is the same process whether you're trying to lose 5 or 50 pounds. I don't see your point.
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nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »I think it's time for this gif since we've obviously exited the land of basic science and entered the realm of....
You can say that all you want but you never actually know until you try. I thought it sounded absurd at first but instead of declaring it magic I actually tried it and it worked. I found out for myself.
Yeah...no. Science disagrees with you. As do I. The scenario you're describing is literally impossible.
But what do I know, I'm just a fatty, right?
I didn't say you were a fatty. I'm just pointing out that if you are going to go to someone on advice to lose weight, your probably going to pick the thinner/ fitter person. It's not rude, it's just smart.
No...I'm going to pick the person who is losing/has lost weight.
Why not the person who has always been thin that has never gotten to the point of being over weight in the first place?
Because...they are not experienced in losing weight?
And experienced in gaining weight.
I've never been overweight so I was always doing something right. And I have lost weight, not from being overweight though.
But you would still be no help to me, considering the advice you've given on here.0 -
nataliecatalie00 wrote: »QueenBishOTUniverse wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »@nataliecatalie00 Since you're obviously far superior in your diet knowledge, perhaps you'd enlighten us dull fatties how "no animal products" and "smoothie every morning for breakfast" can make us all skinny.
I didn't say I was superior, that's your perception. I've eaten 2500 to 3000 calories and lost and maintained weight with minimal exercise. A lot of people aren't willing to do that, and at first I was scared to do it as well but if your only eating natural plant based foods, when it comes down to it, you don't have to have a calorie deficit.
I have a couple 250+ lb vegetarian/vegan friends who would heavily disagree with that statement.
Just because they are vegan means there healthy. I'm talking about natural plant based foods...not from a package. If you eat foods such as fruit, veggies, nuts, and such.
So if you eat at a calorie surplus, but it's fruits/veggies/nuts "and such"...you won't gain weight?!
Yup. And its not just a "I have good metabolism" because when I was in my teens I ate the typical weight loss diet of lean meat, yogurt, and some fruits and veggies with a calorie deficit and I was never over weight but I weighed more than I do now.
I'm sorry, but this is just false. You weren't counting calories properly. It's just not how the science works. Perhaps someone can post some good reading for you.
You can't tell me that I was doing something wrong. I know how to count calories. I have a scale and I can do math. And if you look at all the things in the past the "science" has proven and then we find out it was wrong or there is some new better way, you can be open minded to other things. Plus trying something for yourself is always the best way before you judge it. And I know how to research, I have my degree in psychology and have been trained to find and analyze scientific articles.
good, please link us to the peer reviewed study where you can lose weight in a caloric surplus….
I'm curious to see what "journal" would publish it.
My guess is it would be a journal similar to the one that published this "study".
http://io9.com/i-fooled-millions-into-thinking-chocolate-helps-weight-1707251800
I never claimed that I'm basing it on science. I said I was basing it on experience.
And I know how to research, I have my degree in psychology and have been trained to find and analyze scientific articles.
thats a quote from you ..so yea you did say that.0 -
I feel sorry for the OP, her thread got hijacked by one judgmental person so fast it never had a chance to have anything useful.0
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nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »nataliecatalie00 wrote: »@nataliecatalie00 Since you're obviously far superior in your diet knowledge, perhaps you'd enlighten us dull fatties how "no animal products" and "smoothie every morning for breakfast" can make us all skinny.
I didn't say I was superior, that's your perception. I've eaten 2500 to 3000 calories and lost and maintained weight with minimal exercise. A lot of people aren't willing to do that, and at first I was scared to do it as well but if your only eating natural plant based foods, when it comes down to it, you don't have to have a calorie deficit.
I have a couple 250+ lb vegetarian/vegan friends who would heavily disagree with that statement.
Just because they are vegan means there healthy. I'm talking about natural plant based foods...not from a package. If you eat foods such as fruit, veggies, nuts, and such.
So if you eat at a calorie surplus, but it's fruits/veggies/nuts "and such"...you won't gain weight?!
Yup. And its not just a "I have good metabolism" because when I was in my teens I ate the typical weight loss diet of lean meat, yogurt, and some fruits and veggies with a calorie deficit and I was never over weight but I weighed more than I do now.
I'm sorry, but this is just false. You weren't counting calories properly. It's just not how the science works. Perhaps someone can post some good reading for you.
You can't tell me that I was doing something wrong. I know how to count calories. I have a scale and I can do math. And if you look at all the things in the past the "science" has proven and then we find out it was wrong or there is some new better way, you can be open minded to other things. Plus trying something for yourself is always the best way before you judge it. And I know how to research, I have my degree in psychology and have been trained to find and analyze scientific articles.
So then you’re saying you’re an outlier who defies the basic science of calories in/calories out, and everyone else can be an outlier as well?
That's actually one of the main criticisms of traditional psychology. That we ignore outliers, when we should be paying attention to them. Were supposed to be asking "What is that person doing right or wrong" to become so different. It allows us to explore new things, instead of just paying attention what is always happening.
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