My First Clean Bulk: looking for opinions/tips
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I can live with thatMichael190lbs wrote: »
So an inaccurate test is somehow real science? I think it belongs in the bro-science category in the context of this thread..Michael190lbs wrote: »How did you measure your body fat so perfect to have a decimal point? Super Bro-science man...lolcodsterlaing95 wrote: »You weigh 175 with about 10% bf at 5'9? Isn't that superman size?
Because when you get tested, they report it to that fraction. It's not bro science. It may not be accurate but that's how they report it.
Broscience is where anecdotal reports of jacked dudes are considered more credible than scientific research. Inaccurate body fat measurements aren't broscience, it's just bad methods of collecting and applying data.
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mantium999 wrote: »So, if the bros are arguing against upping the carbs in a bulk, why have they not mentioned that OP bro's mass gainer is 80% carbs, and constitutes 61% of his carb intake? Mass gainer, essential bulking tool of the bros, is basically all carbs, but pushing the carbs up is wrong for bulking. My brain hurts.
Mass gainers are junk.
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asflatasapancake wrote: »So, I think we've got it down to "I look better than you" and "I have a degree". The only thing left is "Nah nah nah boo boo, stick your head in doo doo". There, I said it. Can we eat ice cream now?
Yes please - especially with deep fried cheese curds - although not necessarily at exactly the same time!!0 -
Bout...tree fiddy.0
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Well than no matter what ratio of protein/fat/carbs the OP wants to go with (because as long as he's hitting minimums, the breakdown is mostly personal), can't we all agree that he really should try eating more food and using fewer supplements?mantium999 wrote: »So, if the bros are arguing against upping the carbs in a bulk, why have they not mentioned that OP bro's mass gainer is 80% carbs, and constitutes 61% of his carb intake? Mass gainer, essential bulking tool of the bros, is basically all carbs, but pushing the carbs up is wrong for bulking. My brain hurts.
Mass gainers are junk.
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Well than no matter what ratio of protein/fat/carbs the OP wants to go with (because as long as he's hitting minimums, the breakdown is mostly personal), can't we all agree that he really should try eating more food and using fewer supplements?mantium999 wrote: »So, if the bros are arguing against upping the carbs in a bulk, why have they not mentioned that OP bro's mass gainer is 80% carbs, and constitutes 61% of his carb intake? Mass gainer, essential bulking tool of the bros, is basically all carbs, but pushing the carbs up is wrong for bulking. My brain hurts.
Mass gainers are junk.
I'll second this. Supplements are meant to fill in gaps that we struggle to hit with real food.0 -
Well than no matter what ratio of protein/fat/carbs the OP wants to go with (because as long as he's hitting minimums, the breakdown is mostly personal), can't we all agree that he really should try eating more food and using fewer supplements?mantium999 wrote: »So, if the bros are arguing against upping the carbs in a bulk, why have they not mentioned that OP bro's mass gainer is 80% carbs, and constitutes 61% of his carb intake? Mass gainer, essential bulking tool of the bros, is basically all carbs, but pushing the carbs up is wrong for bulking. My brain hurts.
Mass gainers are junk.
Indeed, especially some veggies and fruits. His micros have to be suffering on that diet.
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asflatasapancake wrote: »
OK...need to wait to visit somewhere with snow to try that!!! Will look like I am twerking though.0 -
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Well than no matter what ratio of protein/fat/carbs the OP wants to go with (because as long as he's hitting minimums, the breakdown is mostly personal), can't we all agree that he really should try eating more food and using fewer supplements?mantium999 wrote: »So, if the bros are arguing against upping the carbs in a bulk, why have they not mentioned that OP bro's mass gainer is 80% carbs, and constitutes 61% of his carb intake? Mass gainer, essential bulking tool of the bros, is basically all carbs, but pushing the carbs up is wrong for bulking. My brain hurts.
Mass gainers are junk.
Indeed, especially some veggies and fruits. His micros have to be suffering on that diet.
Agreed - and there really is no reason as you have many more calories on a bulk than a cut. I can understand drinking some calories - but that is OTT imo?
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asflatasapancake wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »
OK...need to wait to visit somewhere with snow to try that!!! Will look like I am twerking though.
Lol. I'll be waiting for those progress pics.
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asflatasapancake wrote: »
OK...need to wait to visit somewhere with snow to try that!!! Will look like I am twerking though.
I think guys have a slight advantage in controlling the stream but I still want to see the vid.
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cc's? Aw. Are you saying I have breast implants? Cute. If you are however trying to accuse me of steroid use, I also compete in the AAPF. That's a nationally recognized drug tested powerlifting federation where I ask hold the national squat, bench, and total record for 181. Tootin my own horn a bit. Ha ha toot toot. Glad to see you know so much though.0
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cc's? Aw. Are you saying I have breast implants? Cute. If you are however trying to accuse me of steroid use, I also compete in the AAPL. That's a nationally recognized drug tested powerlifting federation where I ask hold the national squat, bench, and total record for 181. Tootin my own horn a bit. Ha ha toot toot. Glad to see you know so much though.
AAPL? Is that a US based one?
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cc's? Aw. Are you saying I have breast implants? Cute. If you are however trying to accuse me of steroid use, I also compete in the AAPL. That's a nationally recognized drug tested powerlifting federation where I ask hold the national squat, bench, and total record for 181. Tootin my own horn a bit. Ha ha toot toot. Glad to see you know so much though.
AAPL? Is that a US based one?
I assumed he was a PC.
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cc's? Aw. Are you saying I have breast implants? Cute. If you are however trying to accuse me of steroid use, I also compete in the AAPL. That's a nationally recognized drug tested powerlifting federation where I ask hold the national squat, bench, and total record for 181. Tootin my own horn a bit. Ha ha toot toot. Glad to see you know so much though.
AAPL? Sara and I hold powerlifting records as well.0 -
cc's? Aw. Are you saying I have breast implants? Cute. If you are however trying to accuse me of steroid use, I also compete in the AAPL. That's a nationally recognized drug tested powerlifting federation where I ask hold the national squat, bench, and total record for 181. Tootin my own horn a bit. Ha ha toot toot. Glad to see you know so much though.
AAPL? Is that a US based one?
I was wondering the same. I've competed in the AAPF in the US, but hadn't heard of the AAPL.0 -
Googled it, AAPL, only thing that came up was All About Power Lifting.0
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cc's? Aw. Are you saying I have breast implants? Cute. If you are however trying to accuse me of steroid use, I also compete in the AAPL. That's a nationally recognized drug tested powerlifting federation where I ask hold the national squat, bench, and total record for 181. Tootin my own horn a bit. Ha ha toot toot. Glad to see you know so much though.
AAPL? Is that a US based one?
I was wondering the same. I've competed in the AAPF in the US, but hadn't heard of the AAPL.
I have not either. I cannot find it on powerliftwatch either - just AAP - but no meets are coming up under that. The reason I was looking was the drug tested claim. Unless its USAPL, most do not test even if they say they are tested - I know APA does not and that's 'drug tested'.0 -
@usmcmp that's awesome. All joking aside, ton of respect for other powerlifters. Especially the good ones.
I don't see a Brad for the 82.5kg class for raw or equipped in full power. Not trying to call your bluff, I was curious since I hold an AAPF and an AWPC record in raw deadlift only.
http://worldpowerliftingcongress.com/wp-content/uploads/records/AAPF_RAW_FullPower.pdf0 -
There was originally a typo, it's AAPF, no L. But AAPF is APF just drug tested. It's an American federation.0
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@usmcmp that's awesome. All joking aside, ton of respect for other powerlifters. Especially the good ones.
I don't see a Brad for the 82.5kg class for raw or equipped in full power. Not trying to call your bluff, I was curious since I hold an AAPF and an AWPC record in raw deadlift only.
http://worldpowerliftingcongress.com/wp-content/uploads/records/AAPF_RAW_FullPower.pdf
How stringent are the drug tests in that fed? As in, do they actually do them?
Actually, another question (out of pure curiosity) - AAPF is not coming up on powerliftingwatch.com - is it possibly under another acronym or does it just not get listed there. I thought powerliftingwatch was pretty inclusive, but sometimes cannot see meets there that I know are going on - just thought it was a timing issue though0
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