Green Tea
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JulesVinTX wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »JulesVinTX wrote: »About 10 years ago, when I lost a significant amount of weight, I drank green tea religiously, about 3-4 cups a day. I didn't get a single cold for two years. I'm sure healthy living as a whole contributed to that, but green tea has been proven to be rich in antioxidants such as polyphenols. Here's a great, short article: http://www.healthline.com/health-news/food-polyphenols-boost-gut-health-and-longevity-121213#1
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
OK. You don't have to agree with anything on here. It's anecdotal, and I made that clear. No need to try to prove how oh-so-brilliant you are, slinging tired Latin logic used by people ... well, by people trying to prove how oh-so-brilliant they are.
You don't like the studies that show green tea, by virtue of its properties, might be good for you? Fine. Don't drink it. But don't go around making definitive statements about it's "just a hydrating drink with some caffeine in it."
BTW, caffeine is a diuretic. Hmm, if it makes you piss, is that hydrating? Can you state that as fact? What's Latin for piss?
Speaking of piss, I usually don't come on to the communities because there is ALWAYS that one negatory (is that Latin? Or is that a Bushism?) butt munch (how about that? Buttus Munchus?) who has to piss all over everything.
Have a healthy day!
If by "piss all over everything" you mean "state scientific fact" then yes, there are several of us who will do this.
Why? Because I care about reality and I care enough about the people living in that reality to try and sell them unicorn farts as a viable weight loss solution.
And yes, science has shown that tea is hydrating, on Mt. Everest no less
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/14872247/
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »JulesVinTX wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »JulesVinTX wrote: »About 10 years ago, when I lost a significant amount of weight, I drank green tea religiously, about 3-4 cups a day. I didn't get a single cold for two years. I'm sure healthy living as a whole contributed to that, but green tea has been proven to be rich in antioxidants such as polyphenols. Here's a great, short article: http://www.healthline.com/health-news/food-polyphenols-boost-gut-health-and-longevity-121213#1
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
OK. You don't have to agree with anything on here. It's anecdotal, and I made that clear. No need to try to prove how oh-so-brilliant you are, slinging tired Latin logic used by people ... well, by people trying to prove how oh-so-brilliant they are.
You don't like the studies that show green tea, by virtue of its properties, might be good for you? Fine. Don't drink it. But don't go around making definitive statements about it's "just a hydrating drink with some caffeine in it."
BTW, caffeine is a diuretic. Hmm, if it makes you piss, is that hydrating? Can you state that as fact? What's Latin for piss?
Speaking of piss, I usually don't come on to the communities because there is ALWAYS that one negatory (is that Latin? Or is that a Bushism?) butt munch (how about that? Buttus Munchus?) who has to piss all over everything.
Have a healthy day!
The diuretic effect of caffeine is negligent unless you drink it in massive quantities.
And I never said green tea was not "good for you." By all means, if you like it, drink it - however, it's not some magic bullet that defends against colds. That's ridiculous. I'd be more inclined to say that your new, healthier lifestyle and weight was more of a contributing factor to your improved health than the green tea was.
Also, look up "ad hominem" and perhaps stop trying to use them as a tool when defending your views in a debate. That is not a good way to look credible. I was not rude to you, I was just pointing out the faulty logic in your post.
Ugg. I drink green tea every day and I'm sick right now. Blerg.
I blame the toddler.0 -
JulesVinTX wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »JulesVinTX wrote: »About 10 years ago, when I lost a significant amount of weight, I drank green tea religiously, about 3-4 cups a day. I didn't get a single cold for two years. I'm sure healthy living as a whole contributed to that, but green tea has been proven to be rich in antioxidants such as polyphenols. Here's a great, short article: http://www.healthline.com/health-news/food-polyphenols-boost-gut-health-and-longevity-121213#1
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
OK. You don't have to agree with anything on here. It's anecdotal, and I made that clear. No need to try to prove how oh-so-brilliant you are, slinging tired Latin logic used by people ... well, by people trying to prove how oh-so-brilliant they are.
You don't like the studies that show green tea, by virtue of its properties, might be good for you? Fine. Don't drink it. But don't go around making definitive statements about it's "just a hydrating drink with some caffeine in it."
BTW, caffeine is a diuretic. Hmm, if it makes you piss, is that hydrating? Can you state that as fact? What's Latin for piss?
Speaking of piss, I usually don't come on to the communities because there is ALWAYS that one negatory (is that Latin? Or is that a Bushism?) butt munch (how about that? Buttus Munchus?) who has to piss all over everything.
Have a healthy day!
This is the problem so many people have...they interpenetrate "good for you" as "must be magical fat burner". Nobody said green tea wasn't good for you...nobody is saying that it doesn't contain awesome antioxidants.
being good for you is not the same thing as being a magic bullet for weight loss.
man people are dense as *kitten*.0 -
crazyjerseygirl wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »JulesVinTX wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »JulesVinTX wrote: »About 10 years ago, when I lost a significant amount of weight, I drank green tea religiously, about 3-4 cups a day. I didn't get a single cold for two years. I'm sure healthy living as a whole contributed to that, but green tea has been proven to be rich in antioxidants such as polyphenols. Here's a great, short article: http://www.healthline.com/health-news/food-polyphenols-boost-gut-health-and-longevity-121213#1
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
OK. You don't have to agree with anything on here. It's anecdotal, and I made that clear. No need to try to prove how oh-so-brilliant you are, slinging tired Latin logic used by people ... well, by people trying to prove how oh-so-brilliant they are.
You don't like the studies that show green tea, by virtue of its properties, might be good for you? Fine. Don't drink it. But don't go around making definitive statements about it's "just a hydrating drink with some caffeine in it."
BTW, caffeine is a diuretic. Hmm, if it makes you piss, is that hydrating? Can you state that as fact? What's Latin for piss?
Speaking of piss, I usually don't come on to the communities because there is ALWAYS that one negatory (is that Latin? Or is that a Bushism?) butt munch (how about that? Buttus Munchus?) who has to piss all over everything.
Have a healthy day!
The diuretic effect of caffeine is negligent unless you drink it in massive quantities.
And I never said green tea was not "good for you." By all means, if you like it, drink it - however, it's not some magic bullet that defends against colds. That's ridiculous. I'd be more inclined to say that your new, healthier lifestyle and weight was more of a contributing factor to your improved health than the green tea was.
Also, look up "ad hominem" and perhaps stop trying to use them as a tool when defending your views in a debate. That is not a good way to look credible. I was not rude to you, I was just pointing out the faulty logic in your post.
Ugg. I drink green tea every day and I'm sick right now. Blerg.
I blame the toddler.
Darn kids, always bringing bugs into the house.
I hadn't had a stomach virus since childhood until I had kids of my own. They're worth it, though.
Most of the time.
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JulesVinTX wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »JulesVinTX wrote: »About 10 years ago, when I lost a significant amount of weight, I drank green tea religiously, about 3-4 cups a day. I didn't get a single cold for two years. I'm sure healthy living as a whole contributed to that, but green tea has been proven to be rich in antioxidants such as polyphenols. Here's a great, short article: http://www.healthline.com/health-news/food-polyphenols-boost-gut-health-and-longevity-121213#1
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
OK. You don't have to agree with anything on here. It's anecdotal, and I made that clear. No need to try to prove how oh-so-brilliant you are, slinging tired Latin logic used by people ... well, by people trying to prove how oh-so-brilliant they are.
You don't like the studies that show green tea, by virtue of its properties, might be good for you? Fine. Don't drink it. But don't go around making definitive statements about it's "just a hydrating drink with some caffeine in it."
BTW, caffeine is a diuretic. Hmm, if it makes you piss, is that hydrating? Can you state that as fact? What's Latin for piss?
Speaking of piss, I usually don't come on to the communities because there is ALWAYS that one negatory (is that Latin? Or is that a Bushism?) butt munch (how about that? Buttus Munchus?) who has to piss all over everything.
Have a healthy day!
There are also studies that show harm. Green tea prevents the absorption of folic acid and has been linked to neural tube defects in both observational and interventional studies.
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pollypocket1021 wrote: »
There are also studies that show harm. Green tea prevents the absorption of folic acid and has been linked to neural tube defects in both observational and interventional studies.
See this is helpful to me. I have to take folic acid so anything that may prevent its absorption would probably not be a good idea for me. Thanks
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I read an article online that said Green Tea can help with weight loss. Is there any truth to it?
It's not true. However, drinking any non-calorie tea instead of eating does help weight loss because eliminating that extra food will create a calorie deficit.
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Yup the marketer have sold you on there gullible gimmicks.Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Its helps in the establishment of a healthy immune system. It also detoxes your body and is a great substitute for fatty sugar filled sodas. I've been drinking it for a year and I wouldn't say it is the sole simulator of weight loss. It is just a healthier option for your body. It has minimal calories
Please, tell us what exactly it does to "detox" our bodies?
Green tea has endless anti-oxidants and vitamins that help cleanse your body in a way. This helps in speeding up your metabolic rate thus burning some fat.
That does not help speed up your basal metabolic rate. Green tea has less calories than soda. I think everyone can agree with that. That is common knowledge I hope. It doesn't do anything else you named.
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pollypocket1021 wrote: »There are also studies that show harm. Green tea prevents the absorption of folic acid and has been linked to neural tube defects in both observational and interventional studies.
This is interesting to me as well. I'm assuming it's not 100% proven or that the effect on absorption isn't terribly strong since I was not counseled about this by my physician or pharmacist when I started taking folic acid to combat methotrexate...
Oh well, I'm drinking green tea right now since the line for coffee was too long, and I can make tea at my desk. Let's hope for the best.
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klmnumbers wrote: »
I'm assuming it's not 100% proven or that the effect on absorption isn't terribly strong since I was not counseled about this by my physician or pharmacist when I started taking folic acid to combat methotrexate...pollypocket1021 wrote: »There are also studies that show harm. Green tea prevents the absorption of folic acid and has been linked to neural tube defects in both observational and interventional studies.
Or they didn't know.. or the amount you're taking is large enough to counteract the reduction. Try asking your pharmacist.
"analysis revealed the high consumption of green tea or oolong tea to be associated with a low serum folate level during pregnancy"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21068474
"results suggest an in vivo interaction between tea and folic acid, with even low concentrations of green and black tea extracts yielding decreased bioavailabilities of folic acid."
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18551467
"There is some concern that green tea might keep folic acid from working the way it should in the body. This might lead to a condition that is similar to folic acid deficiency."
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I love green tea:). I always finds having s couple of cups gets rid of a bloated tummy for me too x0
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klmnumbers wrote: »pollypocket1021 wrote: »There are also studies that show harm. Green tea prevents the absorption of folic acid and has been linked to neural tube defects in both observational and interventional studies.
This is interesting to me as well. I'm assuming it's not 100% proven or that the effect on absorption isn't terribly strong since I was not counseled about this by my physician or pharmacist when I started taking folic acid to combat methotrexate...
Oh well, I'm drinking green tea right now since the line for coffee was too long, and I can make tea at my desk. Let's hope for the best.
I also take the folic acid for methotrexate. Never been advised to avoid green tea either. But I guess not all doctors will think to warn about every single study on effects of meds.0 -
klmnumbers wrote: »pollypocket1021 wrote: »There are also studies that show harm. Green tea prevents the absorption of folic acid and has been linked to neural tube defects in both observational and interventional studies.
This is interesting to me as well. I'm assuming it's not 100% proven or that the effect on absorption isn't terribly strong since I was not counseled about this by my physician or pharmacist when I started taking folic acid to combat methotrexate...
Oh well, I'm drinking green tea right now since the line for coffee was too long, and I can make tea at my desk. Let's hope for the best.
I also take the folic acid for methotrexate. Never been advised to avoid green tea either. But I guess not all doctors will think to warn about every single study on effects of meds.
It could also be that, for people taking the supplements, the folic acid wins every time.0 -
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Cherimoose wrote: »klmnumbers wrote: »
I'm assuming it's not 100% proven or that the effect on absorption isn't terribly strong since I was not counseled about this by my physician or pharmacist when I started taking folic acid to combat methotrexate...pollypocket1021 wrote: »There are also studies that show harm. Green tea prevents the absorption of folic acid and has been linked to neural tube defects in both observational and interventional studies.
Or they didn't know.. or the amount you're taking is large enough to counteract the reduction. Try asking your pharmacist.
"analysis revealed the high consumption of green tea or oolong tea to be associated with a low serum folate level during pregnancy"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21068474
"results suggest an in vivo interaction between tea and folic acid, with even low concentrations of green and black tea extracts yielding decreased bioavailabilities of folic acid."
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18551467
"There is some concern that green tea might keep folic acid from working the way it should in the body. This might lead to a condition that is similar to folic acid deficiency."
nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/1017.html
Most phycisian don't know. The U.S. Studies have come out over the last decade and the other studies are from China.
I was drinking lots of tea when I was pregnant with my second. I asked my OB about how much I could safely drink when I read the studies. He was unaware of the link. I stopped drinking tea at that point. Baby girl was born with a very minor sacral dimple, but no deficit, thank god.0 -
klmnumbers wrote: »pollypocket1021 wrote: »There are also studies that show harm. Green tea prevents the absorption of folic acid and has been linked to neural tube defects in both observational and interventional studies.
This is interesting to me as well. I'm assuming it's not 100% proven or that the effect on absorption isn't terribly strong since I was not counseled about this by my physician or pharmacist when I started taking folic acid to combat methotrexate...
Oh well, I'm drinking green tea right now since the line for coffee was too long, and I can make tea at my desk. Let's hope for the best.
It is amazing what they don't tell you. That is why I plug every new prescription or supplement into a drug interaction checker (along with my existing ones) that also gives food and lifestyle interactions. This is how I found out that you should not take prilosec (or any acid blockers) at the same time as other medications or supplements. It can block the absorption of whatever you are taking so you should take it so closer than 2 hours. Also, you should not take an iron supplement at the same time you are also taking or eating calcium.
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