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christinev297 wrote: »Because when we're young we can bombard our bodies with pretty much anything. It's years later when these things catch up with us...
There's also the attitude of I'm young and invincible, and don't have to worry too much about my health just yet...
So true....
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Rocky_1975 wrote: »It isn't bad for you either. Here is a science based blog
http://bretcontreras.com/sugar-the-sweet-truth/
Science based? Most of the data that is quoted is a bit out dated. But it was an interesting read.
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Of course they care what they put into their bodies...christinev297 wrote: »
So you are saying people who do not advocate the removal of added sugar do not care what they put into their bodies?christinev297 wrote: »
As per the bolded, who is advocating this?christinev297 wrote: »Because when we're young we can bombard our bodies with pretty much anything. It's years later when these things catch up with us...
There's also the attitude of I'm young and invincible, and don't have to worry too much about my health just yet...
I'm not saying anyone here is advocating this. I just know I care a lot more about what I put in my body now then I did when I was in my 20's and 30's.
Like I said, I have nothing against sugar. It's just the people who advocate for sugar, aspartame etc. etc. are usually in the younger subset, or in denial
Jk Jk
I don't know, do they?
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Added sugar is not bad. Too much added (anything) can potentially be bad. That said, "too much" is also relative from person to person...SharonBrobst wrote: »am sure I will be "attacked" by this but added sugar is not good for you.
https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/the-surprising-benefits-of-cutting-back-on-sugar/?utm_source=mfp&utm_medium=Facebook
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SharonBrobst wrote: »am sure I will be "attacked" by this but added sugar is not good for you.
https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/the-surprising-benefits-of-cutting-back-on-sugar/?utm_source=mfp&utm_medium=Facebook
Can you explain to me how an article detailing the negatives of "excess" sugar consumption caused you to believe that "sugar is not good for you"? Cause to me, that's not even remotely the same thing.0 -
SharonBrobst wrote: »am sure I will be "attacked" by this but added sugar is not good for you.
https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/the-surprising-benefits-of-cutting-back-on-sugar/?utm_source=mfp&utm_medium=Facebook
anything in excess is not good for you. If you drink too much water you will die; yet, I don't see people running around demonizing water...0 -
How do they catch up with us?SharonBrobst wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »Because when we're young we can bombard our bodies with pretty much anything. It's years later when these things catch up with us...
There's also the attitude of I'm young and invincible, and don't have to worry too much about my health just yet...
So true....
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Carbohydrates (sugars & starches) are the only macronutrient of the three with a zero lower limit and no requirement amount.
Given that carbs are not actually even a nutritional requirement to sustain life, you could probably argue that all carbs are in excess of need.
Knowing that carbs are not required makes these decisions & discussions much simpler. Eat the minimum necessary to satisfy your personal 'want'.0 -
Carbohydrates (sugars & starches) are the only macronutrient of the three with a zero lower limit and no requirement amount.
Given that carbs are not actually even a nutritional requirement to sustain life, you could probably argue that all carbs are in excess of need.
Knowing that carbs are not required makes these decisions & discussions much simpler. Eat the minimum necessary to satisfy your personal 'want'.
This makes zero sense. Firstly, there is a difference between surviving and thriving...0 -
If you want to say the carb requirement is zero for survival, but all the other requirements are set at the thrive level, I would have to dispute that. Science shows clearly certain levels of macro and micro nutrients are required for most people to function well.
Science has not been able to prove any minimum levels of carbs needed for most people.0 -
If you want to say the carb requirement is zero for survival, but all the other requirements are set at the thrive level, I would have to dispute that. Science shows clearly certain levels of macro and micro nutrients are required for most people to function well.
Science has not been able to prove any minimum levels of carbs needed for most people.
While I would agree that carbs are non essential macronutrients, the studies I have seen in the past would suggest athletes had greater performance while on a higher carb diet.
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Most high level athletes would disagree. For that matter, anyone who exercises with any kind of intensity.If you want to say the carb requirement is zero for survival, but all the other requirements are set at the thrive level, I would have to dispute that. Science shows clearly certain levels of macro and micro nutrients are required for most people to function well.
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Right, for survival. Humans can survive on just about any diet. Personally I would rather thrive then merely survive...If you want to say the carb requirement is zero for survival, but all the other requirements are set at the thrive level, I would have to dispute that. Science shows clearly certain levels of macro and micro nutrients are required for most people to function well.
Science has not been able to prove any minimum levels of carbs needed for most people.
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Carbohydrates (sugars & starches) are the only macronutrient of the three with a zero lower limit and no requirement amount.
Given that carbs are not actually even a nutritional requirement to sustain life, you could probably argue that all carbs are in excess of need.
Knowing that carbs are not required makes these decisions & discussions much simpler. Eat the minimum necessary to satisfy your personal 'want'.
I would have zero energy in the gym, and in life, if I reduced my carb intake to below say 100 grams a day ..
carbs may not be essential, but they are also not the satan0 -
Athletes are beginning to see the problems with high carb and some are even working on high performance levels with minimal carbs. The metabolic issues that come with high carb diets are worth looking for another nutritional formula.
You guys (last 5 posts) who are shirtless and displaying pecs are a special case for nutrition. Trying to apply your nutritional habits and successes to the other 80% of the population is not appropriate.
Overweight people are the least likely to work out and it follows that their carb needs are extremely low.
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Athletes are beginning to see the problems with high carb and some are even working on high performance levels with minimal carbs. The metabolic issues that come with high carb diets are worth looking for another nutritional formula.
You guys (last 5 posts) who are shirtless and displaying pecs are a special case for nutrition. Trying to apply your nutritional habits and successes to the other 80% of the population is not appropriate.
Overweight people are the least likely to work out and it follows that their carb needs are extremely low.
You might want to tell that to Michael Phelps.
BTW, do you have any studies to back your claims? Personally, I cant do anything less than 200g of carbs a day or I tend to get dizzy.
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Really? Who?Athletes are beginning to see the problems with high carb and some are even working on high performance levels with minimal carbs. The metabolic issues that come with high carb diets are worth looking for another nutritional formula.
You can't be serious. We do not defy the laws of science...You guys (last 5 posts) who are shirtless and displaying pecs are a special case for nutrition. Trying to apply your nutritional habits and successes to the other 80% of the population is not appropriate.
The bolded is the real issue. Lack of exercise. Overeating (of any macronutrient) and a sedentary lifestyle.Overweight people are the least likely to work out and it follows that their carb needs are extremely low.0 -
Athletes are beginning to see the problems with high carb and some are even working on high performance levels with minimal carbs. The metabolic issues that come with high carb diets are worth looking for another nutritional formula.
You guys (last 5 posts) who are shirtless and displaying pecs are a special case for nutrition. Trying to apply your nutritional habits and successes to the other 80% of the population is not appropriate.
Overweight people are the least likely to work out and it follows that their carb needs are extremely low.
what do our profile pictures have to do with anything?
So you are saying that only 20% of the population can get to 15% body fat? that is ridiculous. All it takes is hard work, dedication, micro/macro adherence, and accurate logging.
Yes, please post some studies to back up your claims.
ETA - as the shirtless profile crew eats carbs ad sugars don't we blow a pretty large hole in your whole premise? Or do we somehow defy the laws of physics...?0 -
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Athletes are beginning to see the problems with high carb and some are even working on high performance levels with minimal carbs. The metabolic issues that come with high carb diets are worth looking for another nutritional formula.
You guys (last 5 posts) who are shirtless and displaying pecs are a special case for nutrition. Trying to apply your nutritional habits and successes to the other 80% of the population is not appropriate.
Overweight people are the least likely to work out and it follows that their carb needs are extremely low.
You might want to tell that to Michael Phelps.
BTW, do you have any studies to back your claims? Personally, I cant do anything less than 200g of carbs a day or I tend to get dizzy.
When your body is used to high carbs there is a transition period, so when you eat mod to high carb & when you go bonk, your body's habit is to seek more carbs/glucose to unbonk. If your diet is low carb and your body is running on ketones instead of glucose, you are less likely to go bonk (glucose is a short term fuel, ketones are longer lasting). It is a longer term than one day - your body will seek glucose until used up and then transition to ketones.
Sorry, I read alot but do not save links. I do try very hard to avoid gathering information from sites that have something to sell and also try very hard not to believe anything until two separate credible sources confirm.
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Athletes are beginning to see the problems with high carb and some are even working on high performance levels with minimal carbs. The metabolic issues that come with high carb diets are worth looking for another nutritional formula.
You guys (last 5 posts) who are shirtless and displaying pecs are a special case for nutrition. Trying to apply your nutritional habits and successes to the other 80% of the population is not appropriate.
Overweight people are the least likely to work out and it follows that their carb needs are extremely low.
You might want to tell that to Michael Phelps.
BTW, do you have any studies to back your claims? Personally, I cant do anything less than 200g of carbs a day or I tend to get dizzy.
When your body is used to high carbs there is a transition period, so when you eat mod to high carb & when you go bonk, your body's habit is to seek more carbs/glucose to unbonk. If your diet is low carb and your body is running on ketones instead of glucose, you are less likely to go bonk (glucose is a short term fuel, ketones are longer lasting). It is a longer term than one day - your body will seek glucose until used up and then transition to ketones.
Sorry, I read alot but do not save links. I do try very hard to avoid gathering information from sites that have something to sell and also try very hard not to believe anything until two separate credible sources confirm.
I am fully aware of the switch in energy systems.
If you can find any of the studies, I would love to see them. But I don't know any athletes doing Keto. And the guys in the thread aren't anomalies. They are just very dedicated and found a strategy to get lean.
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Really? Who?Athletes are beginning to see the problems with high carb and some are even working on high performance levels with minimal carbs. The metabolic issues that come with high carb diets are worth looking for another nutritional formula.
You can't be serious. We do not defy the laws of science...You guys (last 5 posts) who are shirtless and displaying pecs are a special case for nutrition. Trying to apply your nutritional habits and successes to the other 80% of the population is not appropriate.
The bolded is the real issue. Lack of exercise. Overeating (of any macronutrient) and a sedentary lifestyle.Overweight people are the least likely to work out and it follows that their carb needs are extremely low.
Lebron - ketogenic diet - is one of the most visible and highest performance. This is NOT a science article, but is an interesting read. I would imagine the nutrition staff for the NBA teams are at the top of their game and even they don't agree. http://www.si.com/edge/2014/08/11/inside-lebron-james-weight-loss-and-low-carb-diet
You don't defy science, you have higher caloric needs and immediate energy needs that 80% of the population does not (CDC Study on activity levels in US)
Lack of excercise is a major issue, but it is here to stay due to an assortment of factors. But you also can not out run a bad diet. Diet & nutrition is the primary issue to address.
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If OP has a problem with sugar, why can't we just accept it instead of telling the person just have some and you will be fine.0
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Athletes are beginning to see the problems with high carb and some are even working on high performance levels with minimal carbs. The metabolic issues that come with high carb diets are worth looking for another nutritional formula.
lol, what? try telling a triathlete or endurance athlete that they shouldn't be eating carbs.0 -
Athletes are beginning to see the problems with high carb and some are even working on high performance levels with minimal carbs. The metabolic issues that come with high carb diets are worth looking for another nutritional formula.
You guys (last 5 posts) who are shirtless and displaying pecs are a special case for nutrition. Trying to apply your nutritional habits and successes to the other 80% of the population is not appropriate.
Overweight people are the least likely to work out and it follows that their carb needs are extremely low.
what do our profile pictures have to do with anything?
So you are saying that only 20% of the population can get to 15% body fat? that is ridiculous. All it takes is hard work, dedication, micro/macro adherence, and accurate logging.
Yes, please post some studies to back up your claims.
ETA - as the shirtless profile crew eats carbs ad sugars don't we blow a pretty large hole in your whole premise? Or do we somehow defy the laws of physics...?
Your profile pics are a big clue that you use up lots of calories with physical activity, right?
No, I am saying that only 20% of the population fulfills the government recommended physical activity levels. (CDC study, sorry - no link)
And you are wrong - it take more than "hard work, dedication, micro/macro adherence, and accurate logging". You will find out what else it takes when you get older, have more responsibilities, endure physical impairment, illness or reflection.
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Really? Who?Athletes are beginning to see the problems with high carb and some are even working on high performance levels with minimal carbs. The metabolic issues that come with high carb diets are worth looking for another nutritional formula.
You can't be serious. We do not defy the laws of science...You guys (last 5 posts) who are shirtless and displaying pecs are a special case for nutrition. Trying to apply your nutritional habits and successes to the other 80% of the population is not appropriate.
The bolded is the real issue. Lack of exercise. Overeating (of any macronutrient) and a sedentary lifestyle.Overweight people are the least likely to work out and it follows that their carb needs are extremely low.
Lebron - ketogenic diet - is one of the most visible and highest performance.
You don't defy science, you have higher caloric needs and immediate energy needs that 80% of the population does not (CDC Study on activity levels in US)
Lack of excercise is a major issue, but it is here to stay due to an assortment of factors. But you also can not out run a bad diet. Diet & nutrition is the primary issue to address.
agree, and carb/sugar consumption has nothing to do with that, as you can eat carbs/sugar in a calorie deficit and lose weight, and be healthy.
so I am not sure what your point is...0 -
ihatetodietalways wrote: »If OP has a problem with sugar, why can't we just accept it instead of telling the person just have some and you will be fine.
OP said sugar is bad for "you," not "me"....0
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