Almomd Milk vs. Regular Milk vs. Soy Milk

LiftAllThePizzas

gobonas99

Just drinking it straight, I prefer cow's milk (skim), but it doesn't like me anymore, boohoohoo I can't stand anything other skim milk on cereal (but I have to take a lactaid first).

I use almond milk or coconut milk in my shakeology and protein shakes.

I hate soy milk.

CoderGal

Baby cows drink cow milk.
Baby zebras drink zebra milk.
Baby humans drink human milk.

So why do adult humans drink cow milk?

And adult cats drink cow milk
and adult birds drink cow milk
and baby sheep drink cow milk
and baby tigers drink dog milk and pig milk
and baby leopards drink dog milk

and the calcium available in cow milk is more bio-available then the fortified milks. And there's more protein and many people on this site are eating less then the RDI/FDA/Health Canada recommends. And it's not as processed as the other milks you can buy.

and I don't see the baby soys and baby nuts drink their own milk so why should I?

JessieNeutronGirlGenius

I'm Lactose Intolerant but I grew up drinking 1% but I LOVE Almond Milk..especially the unsweetened vanilla one made by Blue Diamond.It tastes wonderful and has less fat than regular milk but it does have less protein but I'd rather cut the fat anyways.

etoiles_argentees

I suppose the starting point is to look at the nutrition facts of the main “milks” that people drink. I’m going to focus on plain ol’ “moo juice,” soy milk, almond milk, rice milk, and coconut milk. Note that there are other, lesser known, milk substitutes out there like oat milk, peanut milk, hemp milk, and milk made from other grains. Without further ado, the nutrition labels of the Big Five:

Grams Per 8oz Milk (Whole) Soy Almond Rice Coconut
Calories 146 105 60 120 552
Total Fat 8 4 2.5 2 57
Sat. Fat 5 0 0 0.1 51
Chol. 24 0 0 0 0
Sodium 98 114 150 86 36
Total CHO 13 12 8 25 13
Dietary Fiber 0 0 <1 0 5
Sugars 13 9 7 10 8
Protein 8 6 1 0.5 5
Vitamin A 5% 9% 10% 0% 0%
Vitamin C 0% 0% 0% 2% 11%
Calcium 28% 30% 20% 2% 4%
Iron 0% 6% 2% 1% 22%

You probably noticed that I have listed the fat content of whole milk. There are a couple big reasons for that. First, you all know my take on pasteurized milk vs. raw milk. But I can’t find a nutrition label for raw milk. As such, for comparison purposes, we need a standardized product and whole milk, at around 3.5%, fills the bill. Raw milk is typically 4-8%, depending on the time of year, so the calorie and fat information would be a bit different. I didn’t pick skim or low-fat milk for another very big reason. Milk is not naturally low in fat, nor should it be turned into that.

CoderGal

I didn’t pick skim or low-fat milk for another very big reason. Milk is not naturally low in fat, nor should it be turned into that.

Nothin' wrong with it, I guzzle more fat now then I did when I was over weight and lost it all just fine

Alphastate

I don't get why soy and almond is called milk anyways. Are there little almond teets that someone is nursing with two fingers?

lilRicki

Big fan of almond milk, and I totally go all in with the 60 calories a cup :happy: no 'unsweetened' for me. I also love the chocolate milk. I find soy milk to have a gross after taste, almond milk tastes more like skim milk. I can't eat absolutely any dairy, so I'm out for the dairy milk argument.

lilRicki

I don't get why soy and almond is called milk anyways. Are there little almond teets that someone is nursing with two fingers?

it makes those of us that use to be able to have milk, happy. And it tastes like milk. It's actually called almond beverage, but it looks like milk, you use it like milk, etc.

Alphastate

I don't get why soy and almond is called milk anyways. Are there little almond teets that someone is nursing with two fingers?

it makes those of us that use to be able to have milk, happy. And it tastes like milk. It's actually called almond beverage, but it looks like milk, you use it like milk, etc.

Hahaha I was joking, because I drink soy milk, but thank you for clarifying.

Coquette6

If I'm going to have a glass of milk by itself (or with dessert), I get dairy milk. If it's for in a smoothie or protein shake or on cereal, I'll get almond milk to save the calories. I don't like soy milk.

zyxst

Cow milk because it's cheaper in the long run and it's one of my main (known) sources of potassium.

Carnivor0us

Baby cows drink cow milk.
Baby zebras drink zebra milk.
Baby humans drink human milk.

So why do adult humans drink cow milk?

Because we're actually baby cows.


Oh, wait, it's because it's a nutritious source of protein and fat expertly and wisely exploited by our pre-industrial ancestors for means of survival.

momzeeee

I don't drink any form of milk-

cow's milk grosses me out and I don't like the taste
almond milk is too expensive
soy milk-I don't do soy anything

So, good old water for me :drinker:

If I did that it would be hello good ol osteoporosis for me :sick: I don't understand where people get so much calcium from even with milk I don't seem to get enough.

My calcium total for today will be 107, which is 7 over the recommended amount

etoiles_argentees

Exactly. whole milk. cows.

etoiles_argentees

Don't you agree though that the maternal inheritance matters?The egg you developed from , with half of your chromosomes, was created in your mother's ovaries while she was still in your grandmother's womb. New research shows that that when our grandmothers passed those epigenetic signals to your mother she was also passing those signals to the egg that would provide half of your DNA.

You don't think that the early nutrition influenced the establishing of epigenetic marks?

I'm curious, not arguing.

JustJennie1

Used to use soy milk but stopped because it was nasty.

Almond milk just sounds nasty.

I prefer cow's milk. Used to do skim until I read about how it's not that good for you. Went up to 1% and now at 2%. I only use it in my coffee and smoothies. Maybe once or twice a week I will drink a glass.

My calcium total for today will be 107, which is 7 over the recommended amount

Hate to say it but the RDA for anything is usually really, really low.

annasor70

Almond or soy...or hemp or hazelnut...tasty and healthier.

Cow's milk is for baby cows. It is designed to get a calf to a huge size in a short length of time.
http://rense.com/general26/truth.htm

We are the only adult creatures on earth that somehow think we need the milk of another animal...funny eh?

There is more osteoporosis in the western world because of dairy products, compared to Asian countries where they eat far less. The calcium in cow's milk causes the bones to leach calcium from the body..the opposite of what the dairy industry tells us!
http://milk.elehost.com/html/why_does_calcuim_leave_the_bon.html

I know I will get hate for this as dairy loving folks are very defensive and hate to hear a bad word about how unhealthy it is..but so be it

"Dairy is nature's perfect food -- but only if you're a calf".
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dairy-free-dairy-6-reason_b_558876.html
"If that sounds shocking to you, it's because very few people are willing to tell the truth about dairy. In fact, criticizing milk in America is like taking on motherhood, apple pie, or baseball".
This is funny but so true!

iamblessediwillsucceed

I used to use Soy milk (or water) in my oatmeal - now I use the 30 Calorie Almond Milk - (Vanilla) - Whole milk only has 30% of your daily requirements for Calcium - Almond milk has 45% - Whole milk 0% iron, Almond milk 10% - - - I wouldn't drink it as a beverage (and it doesn't work for making fat free pudding; doesn't set up), but I use it in my shakes and cereal...

Blue Diamond - Almond Breeze Almond Milk
Servings:
Calories 30 Sodium 180 mg
Total Fat 3 g Potassium 170 mg
Saturated 0 g Total Carbs 1 g
Polyunsaturated 0 g Dietary Fiber 1 g
Monounsaturated 0 g Sugars 0 g
Trans 0 g Protein 1 g
Cholesterol 0 mg
Vitamin A 10% Calcium 45%
Vitamin C 0% Iron 4%
*Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.

xxmzangel

I use an unsweetened almond or coconut milk, as I eat a low carb diet. However, if regular or soy work better for your eating habits and lifestyle, then all the power to ya, it's just not for me.

TattooedMuffin

for me, Almond or coconut milk.

Imo and the research ive done, both cows milk and soy isnt good for you in ways.

SOY:
http://paleodietlifestyle.com/dangers-soy/

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/170-scientific-reasons-to-lose-the-soy-in-your-diet/

DAIRY:
http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dairy-free-dairy-6-reason_b_558876.html

CoderGal

for me, Almond or coconut milk.

Imo and the research ive done, both cows milk and soy isnt good for you in ways.

SOY:
http://paleodietlifestyle.com/dangers-soy/

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/170-scientific-reasons-to-lose-the-soy-in-your-diet/

DAIRY:
http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dairy-free-dairy-6-reason_b_558876.html

^I'd ignore both of these.

Most of the soy problems are linked to to much soy in ones diet. Don't get me started on how many different foods soy is added to and how many people eat those things plus soy milk and tofu and soy beans all day long. Make no wonder this is becoming a problem.

As for the milk myths, there are long explanations for each one, reasons to ignore the avoid milk people. But yes, taking a calcium supplement often doesn't help bone density. Likely because those people are lacking in other nutrients or to high in others. You need several things in your body to absorb different things (magnesium and potassium seem the most common ones people lack that I have encountered which would help calcium absorption). Milk is one of the highest ranked for bioavailabilty that I've seen so that's your best bet to go for if you don't know what you're doing. The fortified drinks like soy and almond milk can have more calcium but you absorb less (which has shown in studies). If you're taking lots of calcium and you're not absorbing it, you're missing something else. If you're drinking lots of milk and your bone density is falling appart my first guess would be not enough food or excessive amounts of protein compared to everything else (imo people on this site don't eat enough). One of the likely reasons Africans have less osteoporosis for example could be that they have many fasting periods where they cut out meat over a period of time, that would increase their calcium absorption.

In summary, You need protein, you need calcium. Eat lots of calcium and protein, don't avoid either. Cows your best bet if you like it.

FarAway02

I avoid cows milk where possible and replace with almond or soy...depending on what I feel like/what's in the shop! Prefer almond milk.

Our bodies are not designed to digest cows milk (duh! we're not calves!) and so hence many of us have various stages of lactose intolerance. Any non-smokers here get phlegm-y and/or have a regular, non-severe, unexplained cough? ....dairy!

One can argue about health benefits til the cows come home (oho, get it?)..... there's health benefits to nigh on everything if you look hard enough.

My body functions a lot better with less dairy... I'm not ready to cut out cheese yet so I opted to reduce my cows milk intake instead.

coolraul07

I'm lactose intolerant (LI) so cow's milk is a rarity, even with the LI pills. I used to buy LI milk, but used it so rarely I wasted money by letting it spoil. Couldn't tolerate the texture of soy, or the look of almond. Finally switched to coconut and haven't looked back.

TattooedMuffin

for me, Almond or coconut milk.

Imo and the research ive done, both cows milk and soy isnt good for you in ways.

SOY:
http://paleodietlifestyle.com/dangers-soy/

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/170-scientific-reasons-to-lose-the-soy-in-your-diet/

DAIRY:
http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dairy-free-dairy-6-reason_b_558876.html

^I'd ignore both of these.

Most of the soy problems are linked to to much soy in ones diet. Don't get me started on how many different foods soy is added to and how many people eat those things plus soy milk and tofu and soy beans all day long. Make no wonder this is becoming a problem.

As for the milk myths, there are long explanations for each one, reasons to ignore the avoid milk people. But yes, taking a calcium supplement often doesn't help bone density. Likely because those people are lacking in other nutrients or to high in others. You need several things in your body to absorb different things (magnesium and potassium seem the most common ones people lack that I have encountered which would help calcium absorption). Milk is one of the highest ranked for bioavailabilty that I've seen so that's your best bet to go for if you don't know what you're doing. The fortified drinks like soy and almond milk can have more calcium but you absorb less (which has shown in studies). If you're taking lots of calcium and you're not absorbing it, you're missing something else. If you're drinking lots of milk and your bone density is falling appart my first guess would be not enough food or excessive amounts of protein compared to everything else (imo people on this site don't eat enough). One of the likely reasons Africans have less osteoporosis for example could be that they have many fasting periods where they cut out meat over a period of time, that would increase their calcium absorption.

In summary, You need protein, you need calcium. Eat lots of calcium and protein, don't avoid either. Cows your best bet if you like it.

COWS milk is for COWS.

now, Im assuming your not a cow. Would that cow drink human milk just because? probably not

Humans are the only species that drink from another species.
and the only species to drink milk long after their infant stage.


Please. Intrigue me with where you find your research.

TattooedMuffin

for me, Almond or coconut milk.

Imo and the research ive done, both cows milk and soy isnt good for you in ways.

SOY:
http://paleodietlifestyle.com/dangers-soy/

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/170-scientific-reasons-to-lose-the-soy-in-your-diet/

DAIRY:
http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dairy-free-dairy-6-reason_b_558876.html

^I'd ignore both of these.

Most of the soy problems are linked to to much soy in ones diet. Don't get me started on how many different foods soy is added to and how many people eat those things plus soy milk and tofu and soy beans all day long. Make no wonder this is becoming a problem.

As for the milk myths, there are long explanations for each one, reasons to ignore the avoid milk people. But yes, taking a calcium supplement often doesn't help bone density. Likely because those people are lacking in other nutrients or to high in others. You need several things in your body to absorb different things (magnesium and potassium seem the most common ones people lack that I have encountered which would help calcium absorption). Milk is one of the highest ranked for bioavailabilty that I've seen so that's your best bet to go for if you don't know what you're doing. The fortified drinks like soy and almond milk can have more calcium but you absorb less (which has shown in studies). If you're taking lots of calcium and you're not absorbing it, you're missing something else. If you're drinking lots of milk and your bone density is falling appart my first guess would be not enough food or excessive amounts of protein compared to everything else (imo people on this site don't eat enough). One of the likely reasons Africans have less osteoporosis for example could be that they have many fasting periods where they cut out meat over a period of time, that would increase their calcium absorption.

In summary, You need protein, you need calcium. Eat lots of calcium and protein, don't avoid either. Cows your best bet if you like it.

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And instead of "Ignoring" anything.

I think Everyone and anyone is in-titled to their own opinion and are allowed to do their own research. If you read my comment, I was stating my opinion and providing my resources to as why my opinion was just.

momzeeee

Used to use soy milk but stopped because it was nasty.

Almond milk just sounds nasty.

I prefer cow's milk. Used to do skim until I read about how it's not that good for you. Went up to 1% and now at 2%. I only use it in my coffee and smoothies. Maybe once or twice a week I will drink a glass.

My calcium total for today will be 107, which is 7 over the recommended amount

Hate to say it but the RDA for anything is usually really, really low.

An interesting article about how much calcium we actually need-

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/blogs/health-advice/2010/03/16/how-much-calcium-do-americans-need

FitGirlNani

I recently switched over to soy and almond milk versus regular. I don't have a problem with regular and will still drink it, but I personally just like the taste of soy and almond. Sometimes I drink a cup before bed if I feel like snacking, it shuts my stomach up.

CoderGal

And instead of "Ignoring" anything.

I think Everyone and anyone is in-titled to their own opinion and are allowed to do their own research. If you read my comment, I was stating my opinion and providing my resources to as why my opinion was just.

I tend to google scholar when I'm bored. I just replied for anyone who isn't up on things and needs that little umph to question things and look on their own. I don't tend to keep a list of links I've read. If you doubt it then that's fair enough. Do your own research....I suggest scholarly articles and not huffington post and the like you listed.

If you find something in particular that you think is opinion and not fact, look it up yourself. If you find something that shows that it is wrong, feel free to make a defensive case, I'm all ears. I'm more ears this weekend since I'm busy right now but if I remember to come back I'll take a gander.

COWS milk is for COWS.

now, Im assuming your not a cow. Would that cow drink human milk just because? probably not

Humans are the only species that drink from another species.
and the only species to drink milk long after their infant stage.


Please. Intrigue me with where you find your research.

I might be part cow. I am not lactose intolerant and would love it if more cows came home.

What are you? A nut? Or a legume?

Where did you get that bolded piece of 'research' from?










I also don't think almonds or soy are your species either. And I don't think those species try to drink Almond or Soy milk, either. I also don't think they ride bicycles or drive cars, so we better stop that too. Wings, they're for birds, we should stop flying also. My point is that's not a very good argument. It's certainly not factual. Ignoring the fact I've seen adult animals drink fresh cows milk when offered, what makes you think it's true?

LiftAllThePizzas

COWS milk is for COWS.

now, Im assuming your not a cow. Would that cow drink human milk just because? probably not

Humans are the only species that drink from another species.
and the only species to drink milk long after their infant stage.

Translation:
I ignore observed reality and substitute it with my own fantasies.