Almomd Milk vs. Regular Milk vs. Soy Milk

TheBaileyHunter

Almond milk. It was a godsend when I found it. great in pretty much anything.

I detest regular milk (love milk products, just not milk in it's liquid form) and I'm not a fan of soy milk either.

That said, it seems that organic milk is a bit better than regular milk. Not as phlegm-like or slimy.

yarwell

Baby animals have an enzyme which helps them to break down lactose... adult humans so not posess this!

Many adults do, it's called lactase persistence and we're evolving hence it is spreading. Those without are lactose intolerance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence

wendyholla

I'm lactose intolerant, so I always drink soy milk. I was going to try Almond milk, but soy has a lot more protein and I don't eat meat so I need that extra protein. I only use it in my shake in the morning though bc otherwise I never drink milk.

yarwell

If you haven't studied it, why post it?

a) It's relevant to the topic
b) Someone asked for any published data about adverse effects
c) it's a discussion in a forum

d) WTF is it to do with you anyway what I post ? We have to scroll past acres of mindless animated GIFs so a link to reading material relevant to the topic is hardly inappropriate. I guess you didn't want to see anything negative or something, sorry for disrupting your confirmation bias.

Hollypop725

Almond milk all the way for me. I will occasionally drink cow's milk but it's extremely rare and I never actually buy it. I've found that almond milk makes me feel a lot less bloated, plus it tastes really good! I use it in a lot of recipes (like protein pancakes), with my protein shakes, and over cereal. A lot fewer calories, and I get enough protein and calcium to avoid cow's milk.

bumblebums

If you haven't studied it, why post it?

a) It's relevant to the topic
b) Someone asked for any published data about adverse effects
c) it's a discussion in a forum

d) WTF is it to do with you anyway what I post ? We have to scroll past acres of mindless animated GIFs so a link to reading material relevant to the topic is hardly inappropriate. I guess you didn't want to see anything negative or something, sorry for disrupting your confirmation bias.

I know attention spans ain't what they used to be, but if you look back a few pages, you'll see that I was the one who asked for specific links to data about adverse effects, hoping to see a good study to critique. What you did was post a link and said you didn't read it. That's just a strange thing to do.

You might want to look up "confirmation bias" before using it in a sentence. A claim was made to the effect that soy consumption is harmful. I asked for evidence of it. People supplied some links to sites that were, in their own words, not particularly credible sources. The burden of proof is not on me--it's on people who claim that soy has harmful effects. I don't have to prove that something *doesn't* exist; that's now how scientific reasoning works. Where confirmation bias would come in: if I claimed that soymilk caused harmful effects and only noted the evidence in support of my claim, that would be confirmation bias. I see some of that in this thread, but I don't think I am the perpetrator of it.

bumblebums

Baby animals have an enzyme which helps them to break down lactose... adult humans so not posess this!

Many adults do, it's called lactase persistence and we're evolving hence it is spreading. Those without are lactose intolerance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence

Hahaha, Wikipedia

brower47

I like 1% cows milk despite the fact that I'm not a baby cow (most ridiculous reason not to ever). I produce lactase in excellent quantities and my body readily absorbs the calcium, making my bones stronger, not weaker (second most ridiculous reason since it's udder cowpucky). I'm also a fan of the other numerous, easily absorbed nutrient contained within it along with its yummy taste and low cost.

I drink a cup after every weigh training workout I do as part of my post workout snack.

CoderGal

I know my way around Google Scholar, thanks Can you point me to a specific study that in your opinion establishes a clear negative effect of soy consumption? I am willing to examine it critically.

There's an awful lot here. Can you point me to a specific link of the ones you listed above that you think provides proof of harmful effects of dietary consumption of soy? I've spent some time in the past reading studies on soy, and I have yet to see a good one that shows clear evidence of its harmful effects.

Feel free to read all the links.

Why are you questioning specific people (who are not arguing with you) to find you information, particularly me? I have no idea why you keep asking me these questions. You can't control the internet deary. I keep saying things are vague and I drink soy. I wouldn't be doing that if I thought it was going to kill me.

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/studies-showing-adverse-effects-of-soy is a pre-existing reading list for the curious. Can't say I've studied it.

If you haven't studied it, why post it?

Not that I ever want to stick up for yarwell, but I'm pretty sure he said why he posted it.

FYI, most people will not conduct in depth studies of research areas for you before they say something on a forum open for discussion. Many will just give their opinion or tell you what they have seen and there are all walks of life here so expect a large range of replies. If you want that information, your best bet is go to the source, or openly ask where to find sources on a new post under that topic.

LiftAllThePizzas

The burden of proof is not on me--it's on people who claim that soy has harmful effects.

The burden of proof is not on someone who doesn't give a crap either way. Just sayin'

mockchoc

I prefer not to use the nut/ soy milks usually anymore because they are fortified with vitamins sometimes and I'm not certain our bodies use added vitamins as well as if it was just the calcium say that comes from cows milk. I'm going with full fat organic/ bio-organic cows for now. I find when I use low fat cows milk or anything else I have to use three times as much in my coffee anyway to get it half as milky anyway! I was also told my a nutritionist that full fat cows milk has more vitamin A and D so I think that's a good thing....more carbs in skim too I believe.

If you are trying to avoid added vitamins then you should avoid cow's milk with vitamin D. The vitamin D is added.

Not the milk I buy in Australia. I just checked. Nothing added, just milk.

Mario_Az

almond for me

USA2007

I've just converted to almond milk from 2% cow milk. I don't use much milk, just for cereal here and there, etc and the calorie savings (110 a cup for 2% vs 30 Cal a cup for almond milk) and the fact that I genuinely like the taste better made it an easy swap. Can also be used in smoothies and such, and about the same price and shelf life.

MyChocolateDiet

Is this about Tres Leches cake?

VorJoshigan

I love milk.

In order:
Blue Diamond - Unsweetened Breeze Almond Milk Coconut Milk Blend
Trader Joe's - Unsweetened Vanilla Almond Milk
Trader Joe's - Unsweetened Coconut Milk (I add my own vanilla)
Kirkland Signature (Costco) - Homogenized Milk - Vitamin D - Grade A - Pasteurized

Then there's canned coconut milk, kefir, rice milk is tolerable, and then eagle brand condensed milk - omg.

All depends on what my macro/calorie goals are at the moment.

USA2007

I love milk.

In order:
Blue Diamond - Unsweetened Breeze Almond Milk Coconut Milk Blend
Trader Joe's - Unsweetened Vanilla Almond Milk
Trader Joe's - Unsweetened Coconut Milk (I add my own vanilla)
Kirkland Signature (Costco) - Homogenized Milk - Vitamin D - Grade A - Pasteurized

Then there's canned coconut milk, kefir, rice milk is tolerable, and then eagle brand condensed milk - omg.

All depends on what my macro/calorie goals are at the moment.

Would love to be able to find the blue diamond unsweetened coconut almond blend but haven't saw it! I use the blue diamond unsweetened almond, and am going to try coconut too next trip to the grocery store. I live in a smallish college town without a specialty grocery though, best we have is a publix so I don't have access to some things. Would LOVE a whole foods, fresh market or trader joes. Just took a trip to FM on vacay and was in heaven.

mockchoc

Almond milk is horrible in coffee that's the main reason I gave it up. It's the only thing I use milk for usually.

Wendyma1

I prefer almond milk. Regular milk upsets my stomach, soy milk has an estrogenic affect on women and I cant have soy due to thyroid issues. So almond milk works perfect!

HerBravado

I don't normally drink milk alone--just use it to mix in my shakes; buttttt. I switched to unsweetened almond milk since the talk of hormones in soy milk. I didn't want to risk anything since I have PCOS. I think it tastes nice, but I like soy milk better if I were to drink them alone.

Regular milk always wins, though, in my book.

Nightterror218

Recently I have been hearing about Soy being bashed as not as healthy as it was intially portrayed as. Doctor recommended coconut milk or almond milk to my wife when she was diagnosed with Crohns since she is also lactose intolerant. Here is just one article.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/335485-soy-products-and-health-problems/

The one thing the doctor mentioned was the research going with soy and impacts to thyroid. I have no idea what is true what is not. Just know doctor recommended Almond and coconut over Soy.