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I think he's cheating ! I would also suggest trying cardio exercises instead of weight training and stop the cheat day !0
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I think he's cheating ! I would also suggest trying cardio exercises instead of weight training and stop the cheat day !
Aw he'll no. Cardio is great--I love it myself--but weight training maintains muscle mass. You can actually lose more lean muscle if you do too much cardio/do not adequately fuel your workouts.
You should do more weight training, MFP user Guy04.0 -
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madhatter2013 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »I wanted to say water retention. But then I read that this 6'3, 300lb man doesn't lose at 1800 calories per day.
But we don't know if he has stopped losing fat right? That's an unknown quantity. We know he has stopped losing weight which is something else altogether.
We do know that he was losing on that caloric intake with cardio (presumably low intensity) but also he has recently started a more intense form of exercise (lifting) which is more likely to prompt water / fluid retention.
What I would add is I think OP started him calorie goal too low to start. We all know what happens as you keep losing weight. Especially with aggressive deficits.
Let me just clarify. I had him at the 2000 calorie mark when all this started. He has lowered his calorie intake on his own thinking it will help. I find it easier to just support him rather than argue with him. I let him make his own mistakes to learn from. I teach him what I can. It's up to him to do with the information as he will. I log for him so that at least I know his logging is accurate. I video his workouts so that at least I know his form is good and he's not hurting himself. I bring to him ideas, he decides if he wants to try them out. I'm only trying to bring him new ideas taht I may not have thought of.
me thinks it's time for him to take ownership- logging what he puts in his piehole isn't THAT much work. I can understand if you're the primary food worker in the house- weighing and pre-portioning- that's not really an issue.
But quiet honestly logging should fall on his shoulders. There is practically not one single good reason he cant' track himself. Either using an app or the old fashioned book method.
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madhatter2013 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »I wanted to say water retention. But then I read that this 6'3, 300lb man doesn't lose at 1800 calories per day.
But we don't know if he has stopped losing fat right? That's an unknown quantity. We know he has stopped losing weight which is something else altogether.
We do know that he was losing on that caloric intake with cardio (presumably low intensity) but also he has recently started a more intense form of exercise (lifting) which is more likely to prompt water / fluid retention.
What I would add is I think OP started him calorie goal too low to start. We all know what happens as you keep losing weight. Especially with aggressive deficits.
Let me just clarify. I had him at the 2000 calorie mark when all this started. He has lowered his calorie intake on his own thinking it will help. I find it easier to just support him rather than argue with him. I let him make his own mistakes to learn from. I teach him what I can. It's up to him to do with the information as he will. I log for him so that at least I know his logging is accurate. I video his workouts so that at least I know his form is good and he's not hurting himself. I bring to him ideas, he decides if he wants to try them out. I'm only trying to bring him new ideas taht I may not have thought of.
me thinks it's time for him to take ownership- logging what he puts in his piehole isn't THAT much work. I can understand if you're the primary food worker in the house- weighing and pre-portioning- that's not really an issue.
But quiet honestly logging should fall on his shoulders. There is practically not one single good reason he cant' track himself. Either using an app or the old fashioned book method.
I think if he starts stalling a lot he will take over the weighing IF he is fully committed to losing the weight.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »madhatter2013 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »I wanted to say water retention. But then I read that this 6'3, 300lb man doesn't lose at 1800 calories per day.
But we don't know if he has stopped losing fat right? That's an unknown quantity. We know he has stopped losing weight which is something else altogether.
We do know that he was losing on that caloric intake with cardio (presumably low intensity) but also he has recently started a more intense form of exercise (lifting) which is more likely to prompt water / fluid retention.
What I would add is I think OP started him calorie goal too low to start. We all know what happens as you keep losing weight. Especially with aggressive deficits.
Let me just clarify. I had him at the 2000 calorie mark when all this started. He has lowered his calorie intake on his own thinking it will help. I find it easier to just support him rather than argue with him. I let him make his own mistakes to learn from. I teach him what I can. It's up to him to do with the information as he will. I log for him so that at least I know his logging is accurate. I video his workouts so that at least I know his form is good and he's not hurting himself. I bring to him ideas, he decides if he wants to try them out. I'm only trying to bring him new ideas taht I may not have thought of.
me thinks it's time for him to take ownership- logging what he puts in his piehole isn't THAT much work. I can understand if you're the primary food worker in the house- weighing and pre-portioning- that's not really an issue.
But quiet honestly logging should fall on his shoulders. There is practically not one single good reason he cant' track himself. Either using an app or the old fashioned book method.
I think if he starts stalling a lot he will take over the weighing IF he is fully committed to losing the weight.
well I know I would. If something isn't working for me and I've left it up to someone else to take care of and that isn't working out- you're absolutely right- I take the reins back and do it myself.0 -
SergeantSausage wrote: »He's eating more than what you're weighing and portioning out to him.
One doesn't gain 10 pounds on a deficit - especially that kind of deficit (large) at 300 pounds. It's just not physically possible.
Find out about his extra, secret calories he's hiding.
This. He's eating in secret. And don't tell mr it isn't possible, I sneaked food for 28 years :-)
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I didn't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this has already been addressed. He is 6'3" and over 300 pounds, is eating 1600 calories a day enough? It is possible that his body may be going into starvation mode and storing every calorie.
http://www.coachcalorie.com/not-eating-enough-calories-to-lose-weight/
Also, do you take measurements weekly or monthly in addition or are you relying completely on the scale?0 -
I didn't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this has already been addressed. He is 6'3" and over 300 pounds, is eating 1600 calories a day enough? It is possible that his body may be going into starvation mode and storing every calorie.
http://www.coachcalorie.com/not-eating-enough-calories-to-lose-weight/
Also, do you take measurements weekly or monthly in addition or are you relying completely on the scale?
Well, that's not possible. At least some of the things the author claims happen when you don't eat enough calories are true, but their conclusion--that the body will hang onto excess weight when not given enough calories--is absolutely false. I continued to lose weight while netting well under 1000 calories (and suffering health consequences from those few calories--fatigue, hair loss, possible cause of my gallbladder issue.)
If the OP's husband was eating 1600 calories per day, his weight would be at least -8 from one month ago, not +10.
He's sneaking food. It's possible. I don't care if your kids are narcs or whatever, he's sneaking food.
My suggestion would be for OP to stop worrying about her husband's weight and start worrying about why he feels the need to hide things from her. Time to back off.
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I didn't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this has already been addressed. He is 6'3" and over 300 pounds, is eating 1600 calories a day enough? It is possible that his body may be going into starvation mode and storing every calorie.
http://www.coachcalorie.com/not-eating-enough-calories-to-lose-weight/
Also, do you take measurements weekly or monthly in addition or are you relying completely on the scale?
Disregard the bold OP.
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Do some research.0
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I think you're confusing "possible" and "impossible."Well, that's not possible. At least some of the things the author claims happen when you don't eat enough calories are true, but their conclusion--that the body will hang onto excess weight when not given enough calories--is absolutely false. I continued to lose weight while netting well under 1000 calories (and suffering health consequences from those few calories--fatigue, hair loss, possible cause of my gallbladder issue.)
Yeah, you are incorrect. This is possible, if you do a quick search of the net you will find that this is possible. He gave his body a pretty good jolt by losing weight and it is reacting.
At most, the concept you're putting forward would mean he'd lose weight more slowly than he otherwise would, not that he'd fail to lose weight and certainly not that he'd gain weight.
A quick search of the net can tell me that we didn't land on the moon. You should move beyond quick searches.
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Do some research.
No, YOU do some research. Google pictures of famine victims. For the science behind what happens to the body during extreme caloric deficit, the Minnesota Starvation Experiment might be a good place to start. A healthy group of men lost about 25% of their body weight on roughly 1560 calories while doing light exercise. The purpose of the experiment was to test the physiological and psychological effects of starvation, not whether or not weight loss through starvation could be achieved.
The body simply does not hold onto the weight.0 -
Damn. Went to work. And I was SO impressed this thread went so long without "starvation mode" rearing its ugly head.0
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
Honestly, on a sample size of one, as someone who was your husband's size and bigger and who lifted at that size, if the weight isn't pouring off of him at 1800, let alone 1600, he's eating stuff you don't know about or he has a medical condition. I don't mean that to be dismissive or snarky or insensitive to the effort you're making to help him help himself. It's just inconceivable to me that he'd be retaining enough fluid to more than offset the fat he should be losing.madhatter2013 wrote: »madhatter2013 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »I wanted to say water retention. But then I read that this 6'3, 300lb man doesn't lose at 1800 calories per day.
But we don't know if he has stopped losing fat right? That's an unknown quantity. We know he has stopped losing weight which is something else altogether.
We do know that he was losing on that caloric intake with cardio (presumably low intensity) but also he has recently started a more intense form of exercise (lifting) which is more likely to prompt water / fluid retention.
What I would add is I think OP started him calorie goal too low to start. We all know what happens as you keep losing weight. Especially with aggressive deficits.
Sure, and there's too many variables at play to make any confident predictions really (calories go down, cardio is dropped, weights are introduced and so on.)
I think an approach would be to go to a sensible baseline level of calories, keep exercise consistent for a month and then tweak depending on results.
Yup
Absolutely. So what's a good baseline. Should he bump back up to the 2000 and go from there or would that be too low for his size?
are you only seeing what you want to see?
2000 for a man who is 6 ft 3 and over 300lbs is not enough even if he wasn't working out.
My son albeit younger maintains on 4000-4500 depending on his daily work...as a welder.
he is 6 ft 3 and 21 but 240lbs...smh
give that man some food so he stops starving and eating behind your back.
My maintenance during the summer is more than 2k...and I am a 150lb female...
based on scooby with 1-3hours of light activty his BMR is 2627and TDEE is 2889...
^This. You were given the calculator because it is going to be more accurate than people guessing. Don't assume everything is an attack. Playing the victim in this thread isn't going to help your husband.
No one is attacking me. I'm not sure whre in my posts your getting that vibe. I'm not playing the victim either. Only asking for advise, from other people who may have experienced similar concerns, to help my stubborn husband beyond what I've learned in the two years I've been doing this. As I said previously, I am not a guy so I don't know if things change differently with those genes.
Another vote that the likely explanation is that 1,600 calories isn't enough and he is eating in secret.
I'm under 5'7" and I lose weight at 1,600 calories.
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