Concert!
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I wouldn't log going to a concert as exercise. You may be doing some walking, but once you get there you will probably sitting/standing a majority of the time. Just eat what you usually would on a day with no exercise. You will not burn enough calories to be concerned about not eating enough.0
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Since you don't have a Fitbit and don't have a way to count it as steps/walking...just log it as the same calories as whatever type of dancing it is closest to. This is assuming that you have your settings on sedentary and are adding back your exercise manually as part of your diary.
I generally don't log concerts ahead of time, because you never know exactly how things are going to go unless you have seen the same artist in the same venue before. Often places are so crowded that you can't really move...or you are stuck in a seat...or if it is the sort of music where partner dancing might happen, you might not find anybody to dance with. There are many variables.
My guess is that line dancing (perish the thought!) might actually be the closest to what you are going to be doing.
It's likely not a lot of calories. You probably should not skip your workout that day.0 -
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Okay, here is something for you to consider since there is no way anyone can possibly guess how many extra calories you may or may not burn enjoying yourself at the concert....,
Many many years ago (back in the70's) we would just go, have fun, wake up the next day and resume our daily business..,, Not everything has to be accounted for.... Dance, jump, have a cocktail, try to eat or ingest no more than maintenanc calories or just stay at a deficit and get an extra surprise burn, ..... worst case, you go over by a few... Absolutely worst case is you puke your guts up the next day
It really isn't rocket science or life and death here if you leave a hundred calories on the table or go over by100...... It's called enjoying life!!!! And believe me, I still enjoy a good rock concert here and there despite my 'advanced' age
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My take.
OP is relatively new to this and to adult forums. She is trying to learn, but occasionally she gets offended easily and snippy when she shouldn't. She has entrenched views as we all did when we started and feels it's unfair that additional " effort" shouldn't be rewarded. And she takes that personally rather than a generic message...exactly how I felt when I was told my HRM was not accurate for HIIT and I should cut it in half at least
On the flip side, the experienced successful people are giving solid advice, but the OP is taking it as criticism which is making her lash out and then escalating responses because we've all been here before and all done this before
Snort and sigh are forum usage. Lis is spot on with her knowledge and advice and that's how she talks to everyone...she's damn funny too...it's called personality and she has the right, because she has the success and long time support of others to back it up.
Forums are made up of personalities. Some you won't like immediately but they'll grow on you.
OP I'd suggest you chill a little, you've posted some good stuff recently and some standard newbie, and yes pretty juvenile, offended reactions. I'd suggest you take a deep breath and read everything in a muppet voice of your choosing ...stop taking offence because the advice you are given doesn't match what you wanted to hear...do what we all did, learn from it (whether you take it on board or not)
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »
what's interesting? That I call people out when they're being rude? I'm sorry.
Being rude: Asking questions, getting answers you do not like and constantly bashing the responders. It is obvious you do not understand maintenance, science, NEAT, EAT, and how to calculate your daily needs. These are facts. You have plenty of knowledgeable people providing advice and you ignore them. This by most standards is considered rude.
Also, when you ask a question, and want to refute successful people some would call that something else. SLLRunner, wheelhouse, and Lis are a few of the successful people who have taken time to give you input. I stopped after page 2 and if you offered them an apology on pps 3 through 5 then well done. Otherwise, read threads and continue to learn the difference between maintenance, science, NEAT, EAT, and how folks constantly over estimate their needs and their consumption.
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I'm sorry you're not impressed with me. That seems to be a personal problem. This is my thread. "New here" should NOT be an insult. You can stay off my threads in the future if you are going to say such things. GoodbyeAm I not allowed to stand up for myself? I don't like the derailing, and I really appreciate the helpful comments. I'm particularly interested in what @Wheelhouse15 is talking about. However, if people are going to insist on being rude to me on my own thread I'm going to stand up for myself. I am an adult. I am not stupid. I realize I don't know everything, I am willing to learn... however, I am very unwilling to listen to people who are going to treat me like I am a child or like I don't know anything.However, as far as I'm concerned this thread is closed and I do not intend to anymore comments.
Just an FYI - You do not *own* this thread, nor are you a moderator here. Therefore, you do not get to dictate who can respond to your public thread or how they may choose to do so.
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Where is that train wreck meme when you need it ...0
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Wow - what do you do at concerts? I'm an old lady so I sit. Well, I may chairdance. So If you dance on your feet or swing from the ceiling for 3 hours, you've burned through a lot of calories!0
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ok the concert part is important to you - and i really hope you have a good time - but it's less relevant as far as energy balance etc. it's still just dancing. i don't know what kind of dancing you'll do, so i guess use your judgement when you look for it, but that's the part your body cares about.
don't log the time you are not dancing though
This and the recommendations of eating at maintenance are the advice that I've been looking for. Thank you.
no problemblankiefinder wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I never insinuated that. If I had said "You obviously haven't ever been to a concert" I could see that. But that's not what I said.Liftng4Lis wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »I don't know if any of you have ever been to a rock concert, but it generally involves a lot of jumping... which I would consider exercise
Snort! NOPE, we don't have them here in America!
Again, I would consider this already accounted for in my activity level. You asked the question and aren't liking the answer that the majority of the people on this board are going to provide. You will find people here that log cooking and cleaning as well, I'm sure they'll be along soon.
you realize I am an American right? I only said that because of the comments that it's counted in my activity level... I am WAY more active at a concert than I would be most other days.
Also, I don't log things I do every day like cooking and cleaning. but I suppose a lot of you would say I shouldn't have logged helping my boyfriend move even though I know I burned over 1000 calories doing so.
I guess the thing I'm really concerned about is that for a 3+ hour concert full of jumping and dancing I'm afraid that I'm not going to eat ENOUGH. But at the same time I don't want to over eat in an attempt to avoid under eating. I know one day wont throw me off, but as @sllrunner said I try to be as accurate as possible which is why I'm just looking for some ballpark numbers.
Nope, didn't look, as it's irrelevant to the question.
Then you shouldn't have made the statement as it was rude.
Insinuating no one but you had ever been to a concert was rude.
well it wasnt nice to start of with
There is a high possibility as wife of a musician that i saw more concerts in my life than you ever can imagine.
I never said you hadn't. I basically asked a question. From the responses I got it sounded like people expected me to just do normal activity at a concert.
No, we just know that you won't be burning enough calories to log. But obviously, you don't believe that, therefore you believe none of us know what's what.
I'm going to go ahead and assume that if I'm dancing and jumping for 3+ hours, even with quite a few breaks, I'm going to be burning more calories than I do when I walk for exercise. So should I not be counting that either?
log it, why not, if you're really going to be kicking up your heels and sweating. except i bet the breaks will be a lot longer than you think they'll be. 3 hours - 3 trips to the concession stand, probably 2 bathroom breaks (there will be huge lineups), i don't know, maybe costume changes, plus sometimes you'll get tired. i would log it as one hour, to be on the safe side.
the options in the database are belly dancing, line dancing, various kinds of ballroom dancing, and aerobic/ballet/modern/twist (?). if you're going to be actually jumping, i would log it as 30 minutes aerobic, otherwise bellydancing maybe, and 30 minutes maybe line dancing, because you're going to have some slow songs in there, probably.
Ya, I'd use a thought process like this as well.
If your activity level is set at Sedentary, dancing and jumping at a rock concert is not built into that.0 -
Wow - what do you do at concerts? I'm an old lady so I sit. Well, I may chairdance. So If you dance on your feet or swing from the ceiling for 3 hours, you've burned through a lot of calories!
Have you ever been to a Ziggy Marley concert? Not much activity. I got the munchies, though.0 -
LOL
I wonder if I should count laughing burns too, as exercise.
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When I was new here, I'd argue EVERYTHING I was told. I figured no one was really listening to me - no one took the time to understand what I was trying to say.
I was wrong.
I gave you the answer in the second reply to your post. You chose to focus on the other stuff, and defend yourself unnecessarily.
You are, of course, free to do so. But you'll save a lot of time and energy taking things a lot less seriously around here.
Good luck.0 -
5 of the first 6 replies provided useful guidance. The OP chose to question if anyone ever went to a rock concert before. Maybe she'll go back and learn from those posts ... maybe she'll continue with the mindset evident in her first reply in this thread ... up to her.0
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billieljaime wrote: »Where a hrm or pedometer to the concert if your that concerned otherwise eat at maintenance
HRMs are only useful for steady state cardio (and then only in limited conditions if you want anything near an accurate caloric estimate) ... not for something like a concert.0 -
Just not sure what the OP was looking for here. She got answers, even solid suggestions on much to log...what more did she want? Someone to tell her she was going to burn 1000 calories at a rock concert? I found her comment asking if any of the rest of us had been to a rock concert offensive and condescending as well.0
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kshama2001 wrote: »ok the concert part is important to you - and i really hope you have a good time - but it's less relevant as far as energy balance etc. it's still just dancing. i don't know what kind of dancing you'll do, so i guess use your judgement when you look for it, but that's the part your body cares about.
don't log the time you are not dancing though
This and the recommendations of eating at maintenance are the advice that I've been looking for. Thank you.
no problemblankiefinder wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I never insinuated that. If I had said "You obviously haven't ever been to a concert" I could see that. But that's not what I said.Liftng4Lis wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »I don't know if any of you have ever been to a rock concert, but it generally involves a lot of jumping... which I would consider exercise
Snort! NOPE, we don't have them here in America!
Again, I would consider this already accounted for in my activity level. You asked the question and aren't liking the answer that the majority of the people on this board are going to provide. You will find people here that log cooking and cleaning as well, I'm sure they'll be along soon.
you realize I am an American right? I only said that because of the comments that it's counted in my activity level... I am WAY more active at a concert than I would be most other days.
Also, I don't log things I do every day like cooking and cleaning. but I suppose a lot of you would say I shouldn't have logged helping my boyfriend move even though I know I burned over 1000 calories doing so.
I guess the thing I'm really concerned about is that for a 3+ hour concert full of jumping and dancing I'm afraid that I'm not going to eat ENOUGH. But at the same time I don't want to over eat in an attempt to avoid under eating. I know one day wont throw me off, but as @sllrunner said I try to be as accurate as possible which is why I'm just looking for some ballpark numbers.
Nope, didn't look, as it's irrelevant to the question.
Then you shouldn't have made the statement as it was rude.
Insinuating no one but you had ever been to a concert was rude.
well it wasnt nice to start of with
There is a high possibility as wife of a musician that i saw more concerts in my life than you ever can imagine.
I never said you hadn't. I basically asked a question. From the responses I got it sounded like people expected me to just do normal activity at a concert.
No, we just know that you won't be burning enough calories to log. But obviously, you don't believe that, therefore you believe none of us know what's what.
I'm going to go ahead and assume that if I'm dancing and jumping for 3+ hours, even with quite a few breaks, I'm going to be burning more calories than I do when I walk for exercise. So should I not be counting that either?
log it, why not, if you're really going to be kicking up your heels and sweating. except i bet the breaks will be a lot longer than you think they'll be. 3 hours - 3 trips to the concession stand, probably 2 bathroom breaks (there will be huge lineups), i don't know, maybe costume changes, plus sometimes you'll get tired. i would log it as one hour, to be on the safe side.
the options in the database are belly dancing, line dancing, various kinds of ballroom dancing, and aerobic/ballet/modern/twist (?). if you're going to be actually jumping, i would log it as 30 minutes aerobic, otherwise bellydancing maybe, and 30 minutes maybe line dancing, because you're going to have some slow songs in there, probably.
Ya, I'd use a thought process like this as well.
If your activity level is set at Sedentary, dancing and jumping at a rock concert is not built into that.
This would only be true if she were out there burning some serious energy dancing as exercise, doing it a few times a week, or 3 or 4 or whatever. That would most likely entail raising her activity level a notch, because dancing is not steady state cardio.
One night of dancing does not raise one's activity level. In other words, it will all come out in the wash. 0 -
billieljaime wrote: »Where a hrm or pedometer to the concert if your that concerned otherwise eat at maintenance
Dancing is not steady state cardio, therefore the number rendered would not be accurate.0 -
I don't know if any of you have ever been to a rock concert, but it generally involves a lot of jumping... which I would consider exercise
I have- many, many times, and i still would'nt log it as additional exercise. Also- I'm being pedantic but FOB is pop music, not rock.
At the end of the day- its a personal choice. (both music and recording cals 0 -
LOL
I wonder if I should count laughing burns too, as exercise.
Well, it seems to me you would raise your activity level for that, but it would depend on how heartily you are laughing. If it's just a chuckle, it's part of your activity level. If it's a small belly laugh, perhaps you can raise your activity level to lightly active, but if it's a guffaw you might as well increase your activity level up to active or very active.
Now that you've raised your activity level, you need to look at how many times per day you are laughing. I read somewhere that laughing burns .000001 calorie per laugh. Boy, if you spend your day laughing, you have burned a lot of calories!
NOTE TO NEWBIES:Seriously, I'm kidding. This is a joke.
And, here is your role model for proper laughing procedure:
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Well, I think the OP has gotten the answers she needs, so in an effort to avoid a complete trainwreck, I'm closing this discussion.
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