Concert!
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it is exercise related, see previous comments... I intend for it to be my cardio for the dayWheelhouse15 wrote: »None, logging isn't about trying to figure out how many extra calories you can eat if you do such and such and activity that isn't exercise related. They are about estimates for daily averages to help guide you. Use it as a time to burn a little bonus fat if you want to think of it that way.
Just because you think it's exercise, doesn't mean it is. Just because you're tired, doesn't mean you burned extra calories. Stand all day at work and you will feel tired, but you didn't burn enough calories to count. Chop veggies, and cook for hours, same thing.
Just go, enjoy the concert, and don't worry about how many calories to log. Trust me, your body doesn't care what you enter into MFP, your body calculates your burns without any help from your brain.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
it is exercise related, see previous comments... I intend for it to be my cardio for the dayWheelhouse15 wrote: »None, logging isn't about trying to figure out how many extra calories you can eat if you do such and such and activity that isn't exercise related. They are about estimates for daily averages to help guide you. Use it as a time to burn a little bonus fat if you want to think of it that way.
Okay, I'm curious. Why did you post this question when clearly your mind is already made up?
I know I'm logging it as cardio (I thought that was obvious from the original post) I'm asking HOW MUCH
depends on how high you jump for how long and before 9PM or after?
I'm not looking for specifics. I'm looking for ballpark. I said that from the beginning. I realize that there is NO WAY I can be exact about this... I'm looking at eating at maintenance... is there a formula for that?0 -
it is exercise related, see previous comments... I intend for it to be my cardio for the dayWheelhouse15 wrote: »None, logging isn't about trying to figure out how many extra calories you can eat if you do such and such and activity that isn't exercise related. They are about estimates for daily averages to help guide you. Use it as a time to burn a little bonus fat if you want to think of it that way.
Technically, no it's not considered exercise it's considered non-exercise but the difference is often a matter of interpretation e.g. an athlete wouldn't considered a game exercise under this definition, as far as I know, because it's part of their normal activity. If you want to count it as dancing ok, but I would lower the actual time since you aren't going to be jumping around the whole time.
I would be very conservative with logging since we have a lot of people here who log a lot of things as extra activities but then complain they can't lose.
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omg that is what i said in the first place eat at maintenance level...sighs
my posting about how high and how long and after 9PM is joking0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »I don't know if any of you have ever been to a rock concert, but it generally involves a lot of jumping... which I would consider exercise
Snort! NOPE, we don't have them here in America!
Again, I would consider this already accounted for in my activity level. You asked the question and aren't liking the answer that the majority of the people on this board are going to provide. You will find people here that log cooking and cleaning as well, I'm sure they'll be along soon.
you realize I am an American right? I only said that because of the comments that it's counted in my activity level... I am WAY more active at a concert than I would be most other days.
Also, I don't log things I do every day like cooking and cleaning. but I suppose a lot of you would say I shouldn't have logged helping my boyfriend move even though I know I burned over 1000 calories doing so.
I guess the thing I'm really concerned about is that for a 3+ hour concert full of jumping and dancing I'm afraid that I'm not going to eat ENOUGH. But at the same time I don't want to over eat in an attempt to avoid under eating. I know one day wont throw me off, but as @sllrunner said I try to be as accurate as possible which is why I'm just looking for some ballpark numbers.
LOL.....oh no you don't, you're not using my comment about striving for accuracy to backup your plan to log something that is obviously not to be logged as exercise. Why? Because that is inaccurate, and there is not way to get accuracy anyway.
If you just eat at maintenance instead of a deficit, you will be just fine.
Please don't twist what I'm saying. I've stated several times that I realize I can't be accurate, I was just acknowledging that I LIKE to be accurate... Ballpark numbers is a representation of that...0 -
I don't know if any of you have ever been to a rock concert, but it generally involves a lot of jumping... which I would consider exercise
70 kg * 9.8m/s^2*.5m /.25 in kcal
The .25 represents an assumption that a human jump is 25% efficient.
This gives 0.32791587 kilocalories (dietary calories are actually KILOcalories in proper metric units). So just multiple your number of jumps by about .32, there you go, rough estimate of your calorie burn.
Feel free to replace with your own values for mass and jump height that you feel is more appropriate, but that 9.8m/s^2 is firm.
Damn that Law of Gravity stuff!
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »I don't know if any of you have ever been to a rock concert, but it generally involves a lot of jumping... which I would consider exercise
Snort! NOPE, we don't have them here in America!
Again, I would consider this already accounted for in my activity level. You asked the question and aren't liking the answer that the majority of the people on this board are going to provide. You will find people here that log cooking and cleaning as well, I'm sure they'll be along soon.
you realize I am an American right? I only said that because of the comments that it's counted in my activity level... I am WAY more active at a concert than I would be most other days.
Also, I don't log things I do every day like cooking and cleaning. but I suppose a lot of you would say I shouldn't have logged helping my boyfriend move even though I know I burned over 1000 calories doing so.
I guess the thing I'm really concerned about is that for a 3+ hour concert full of jumping and dancing I'm afraid that I'm not going to eat ENOUGH. But at the same time I don't want to over eat in an attempt to avoid under eating. I know one day wont throw me off, but as @sllrunner said I try to be as accurate as possible which is why I'm just looking for some ballpark numbers.
Nope, didn't look, as it's irrelevant to the question.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
it is exercise related, see previous comments... I intend for it to be my cardio for the dayWheelhouse15 wrote: »None, logging isn't about trying to figure out how many extra calories you can eat if you do such and such and activity that isn't exercise related. They are about estimates for daily averages to help guide you. Use it as a time to burn a little bonus fat if you want to think of it that way.
Technically, no it's not considered exercise it's considered non-exercise but the difference is often a matter of interpretation e.g. an athlete wouldn't considered a game exercise under this definition, as far as I know, because it's part of their normal activity. If you want to count it as dancing ok, but I would lower the actual time since you aren't going to be jumping around the whole time.
I would be very conservative with logging since we have a lot of people here who log a lot of things as extra activities but then complain they can't lose.
Last time I checked dancing and jumping both qualify as exercise... just because I'm doing it at a concert venue instead of at the gym doesn't mean it's not exercise.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
it is exercise related, see previous comments... I intend for it to be my cardio for the dayWheelhouse15 wrote: »None, logging isn't about trying to figure out how many extra calories you can eat if you do such and such and activity that isn't exercise related. They are about estimates for daily averages to help guide you. Use it as a time to burn a little bonus fat if you want to think of it that way.
Technically, no it's not considered exercise it's considered non-exercise but the difference is often a matter of interpretation e.g. an athlete wouldn't considered a game exercise under this definition, as far as I know, because it's part of their normal activity. If you want to count it as dancing ok, but I would lower the actual time since you aren't going to be jumping around the whole time.
I would be very conservative with logging since we have a lot of people here who log a lot of things as extra activities but then complain they can't lose.
Last time I checked dancing and jumping both qualify as exercise... just because I'm doing it at a concert venue instead of at the gym doesn't mean it's not exercise.
so log it as such ...sighs
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
it is exercise related, see previous comments... I intend for it to be my cardio for the dayWheelhouse15 wrote: »None, logging isn't about trying to figure out how many extra calories you can eat if you do such and such and activity that isn't exercise related. They are about estimates for daily averages to help guide you. Use it as a time to burn a little bonus fat if you want to think of it that way.
Okay, I'm curious. Why did you post this question when clearly your mind is already made up?
I know I'm logging it as cardio (I thought that was obvious from the original post) I'm asking HOW MUCH
depends on how high you jump for how long and before 9PM or after?
I'm not looking for specifics. I'm looking for ballpark. I said that from the beginning. I realize that there is NO WAY I can be exact about this... I'm looking at eating at maintenance... is there a formula for that?
Are you using a Fitbit? Wear the Fitbit and let that handle the adjustment.
Otherwise, the answer is 42.
ETA: For your maintenance calories use: http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »omg that is what i said in the first place eat at maintenance level...sighs
my posting about how high and how long and after 9PM is joking
... that was my point.0 -
Just use dancing in the database0
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »I don't know if any of you have ever been to a rock concert, but it generally involves a lot of jumping... which I would consider exercise
Snort! NOPE, we don't have them here in America!
Again, I would consider this already accounted for in my activity level. You asked the question and aren't liking the answer that the majority of the people on this board are going to provide. You will find people here that log cooking and cleaning as well, I'm sure they'll be along soon.
you realize I am an American right? I only said that because of the comments that it's counted in my activity level... I am WAY more active at a concert than I would be most other days.
Also, I don't log things I do every day like cooking and cleaning. but I suppose a lot of you would say I shouldn't have logged helping my boyfriend move even though I know I burned over 1000 calories doing so.
I guess the thing I'm really concerned about is that for a 3+ hour concert full of jumping and dancing I'm afraid that I'm not going to eat ENOUGH. But at the same time I don't want to over eat in an attempt to avoid under eating. I know one day wont throw me off, but as @sllrunner said I try to be as accurate as possible which is why I'm just looking for some ballpark numbers.
LOL.....oh no you don't, you're not using my comment about striving for accuracy to backup your plan to log something that is obviously not to be logged as exercise. Why? Because that is inaccurate, and there is not way to get accuracy anyway.
If you just eat at maintenance instead of a deficit, you will be just fine.
Please don't twist what I'm saying. I've stated several times that I realize I can't be accurate, I was just acknowledging that I LIKE to be accurate... Ballpark numbers is a representation of that...
There is nooooo twisting going on here.
Glad you've decided to eat at maintenance.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
it is exercise related, see previous comments... I intend for it to be my cardio for the dayWheelhouse15 wrote: »None, logging isn't about trying to figure out how many extra calories you can eat if you do such and such and activity that isn't exercise related. They are about estimates for daily averages to help guide you. Use it as a time to burn a little bonus fat if you want to think of it that way.
Okay, I'm curious. Why did you post this question when clearly your mind is already made up?
I know I'm logging it as cardio (I thought that was obvious from the original post) I'm asking HOW MUCH
depends on how high you jump for how long and before 9PM or after?
I'm not looking for specifics. I'm looking for ballpark. I said that from the beginning. I realize that there is NO WAY I can be exact about this... I'm looking at eating at maintenance... is there a formula for that?
Are you using a Fitbit? Wear the Fitbit and let that handle the adjustment.
Otherwise, the answer is 42.
Or let your phone auto adjust based on steps, would be just as accurate.
Why ask a question though, if you won't accept any opinion other than your own?
PS when you log false burns, you only cheat yourself.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
it is exercise related, see previous comments... I intend for it to be my cardio for the dayWheelhouse15 wrote: »None, logging isn't about trying to figure out how many extra calories you can eat if you do such and such and activity that isn't exercise related. They are about estimates for daily averages to help guide you. Use it as a time to burn a little bonus fat if you want to think of it that way.
Technically, no it's not considered exercise it's considered non-exercise but the difference is often a matter of interpretation e.g. an athlete wouldn't considered a game exercise under this definition, as far as I know, because it's part of their normal activity. If you want to count it as dancing ok, but I would lower the actual time since you aren't going to be jumping around the whole time.
I would be very conservative with logging since we have a lot of people here who log a lot of things as extra activities but then complain they can't lose.
Last time I checked dancing and jumping both qualify as exercise... just because I'm doing it at a concert venue instead of at the gym doesn't mean it's not exercise.
so log it as such ...sighs
Stop *sighing* at me. It's very rude. I am trying to get more information on your advice. I asked if there was a formula for maintenance, so far you haven't given me an answer.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »I don't know if any of you have ever been to a rock concert, but it generally involves a lot of jumping... which I would consider exercise
Snort! NOPE, we don't have them here in America!
Again, I would consider this already accounted for in my activity level. You asked the question and aren't liking the answer that the majority of the people on this board are going to provide. You will find people here that log cooking and cleaning as well, I'm sure they'll be along soon.
you realize I am an American right? I only said that because of the comments that it's counted in my activity level... I am WAY more active at a concert than I would be most other days.
Also, I don't log things I do every day like cooking and cleaning. but I suppose a lot of you would say I shouldn't have logged helping my boyfriend move even though I know I burned over 1000 calories doing so.
I guess the thing I'm really concerned about is that for a 3+ hour concert full of jumping and dancing I'm afraid that I'm not going to eat ENOUGH. But at the same time I don't want to over eat in an attempt to avoid under eating. I know one day wont throw me off, but as @sllrunner said I try to be as accurate as possible which is why I'm just looking for some ballpark numbers.
Nope, didn't look, as it's irrelevant to the question.
Then you shouldn't have made the statement as it was rude.-1 -
Running is also exercise, but I don't try to time how long I have to chase my kids each day - it isn't exercise.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
it is exercise related, see previous comments... I intend for it to be my cardio for the dayWheelhouse15 wrote: »None, logging isn't about trying to figure out how many extra calories you can eat if you do such and such and activity that isn't exercise related. They are about estimates for daily averages to help guide you. Use it as a time to burn a little bonus fat if you want to think of it that way.
Technically, no it's not considered exercise it's considered non-exercise but the difference is often a matter of interpretation e.g. an athlete wouldn't considered a game exercise under this definition, as far as I know, because it's part of their normal activity. If you want to count it as dancing ok, but I would lower the actual time since you aren't going to be jumping around the whole time.
I would be very conservative with logging since we have a lot of people here who log a lot of things as extra activities but then complain they can't lose.
Last time I checked dancing and jumping both qualify as exercise... just because I'm doing it at a concert venue instead of at the gym doesn't mean it's not exercise.
If you go by the MFP database, typing is an exercise.
If you go by the MFP database, sex is an exercise, and if you're having it to eat an extra sandwich, I think you've lost the plot somewhere.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
it is exercise related, see previous comments... I intend for it to be my cardio for the dayWheelhouse15 wrote: »None, logging isn't about trying to figure out how many extra calories you can eat if you do such and such and activity that isn't exercise related. They are about estimates for daily averages to help guide you. Use it as a time to burn a little bonus fat if you want to think of it that way.
Technically, no it's not considered exercise it's considered non-exercise but the difference is often a matter of interpretation e.g. an athlete wouldn't considered a game exercise under this definition, as far as I know, because it's part of their normal activity. If you want to count it as dancing ok, but I would lower the actual time since you aren't going to be jumping around the whole time.
I would be very conservative with logging since we have a lot of people here who log a lot of things as extra activities but then complain they can't lose.
Last time I checked dancing and jumping both qualify as exercise... just because I'm doing it at a concert venue instead of at the gym doesn't mean it's not exercise.
so log it as such ...sighs
Stop *sighing* at me. It's very rude. I am trying to get more information on your advice. I asked if there was a formula for maintenance, so far you haven't given me an answer.
Katie, you've had a few shining moments in here yourself.
If you want to know maintenance calories for yourself, use an online calculator, or go through the goals settings here at MFP and switch to maintenance.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »I don't know if any of you have ever been to a rock concert, but it generally involves a lot of jumping... which I would consider exercise
Snort! NOPE, we don't have them here in America!
Again, I would consider this already accounted for in my activity level. You asked the question and aren't liking the answer that the majority of the people on this board are going to provide. You will find people here that log cooking and cleaning as well, I'm sure they'll be along soon.
you realize I am an American right? I only said that because of the comments that it's counted in my activity level... I am WAY more active at a concert than I would be most other days.
Also, I don't log things I do every day like cooking and cleaning. but I suppose a lot of you would say I shouldn't have logged helping my boyfriend move even though I know I burned over 1000 calories doing so.
I guess the thing I'm really concerned about is that for a 3+ hour concert full of jumping and dancing I'm afraid that I'm not going to eat ENOUGH. But at the same time I don't want to over eat in an attempt to avoid under eating. I know one day wont throw me off, but as @sllrunner said I try to be as accurate as possible which is why I'm just looking for some ballpark numbers.
Nope, didn't look, as it's irrelevant to the question.
Then you shouldn't have made the statement as it was rude.
Insinuating no one but you had ever been to a concert was rude.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »why would you assume we dont know about rock concerts? lol
But since you have problems with the options we gave you here is another one
log 500 burned calories eat half of them back above your daily calorie allotment ( lol would be a bit the same as your maintenance level?) The outcome is still a bit the same
And i dont see the problem in all of it.
I like this idea... I don't actually know my maintenance level, I haven't done the math.
@TheOwlhouseDesigns right here. See?0 -
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
it is exercise related, see previous comments... I intend for it to be my cardio for the dayWheelhouse15 wrote: »None, logging isn't about trying to figure out how many extra calories you can eat if you do such and such and activity that isn't exercise related. They are about estimates for daily averages to help guide you. Use it as a time to burn a little bonus fat if you want to think of it that way.
Technically, no it's not considered exercise it's considered non-exercise but the difference is often a matter of interpretation e.g. an athlete wouldn't considered a game exercise under this definition, as far as I know, because it's part of their normal activity. If you want to count it as dancing ok, but I would lower the actual time since you aren't going to be jumping around the whole time.
I would be very conservative with logging since we have a lot of people here who log a lot of things as extra activities but then complain they can't lose.
Last time I checked dancing and jumping both qualify as exercise... just because I'm doing it at a concert venue instead of at the gym doesn't mean it's not exercise.
Again, it's a matter of interpretation, what you think is actually not relevant to science.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
it is exercise related, see previous comments... I intend for it to be my cardio for the dayWheelhouse15 wrote: »None, logging isn't about trying to figure out how many extra calories you can eat if you do such and such and activity that isn't exercise related. They are about estimates for daily averages to help guide you. Use it as a time to burn a little bonus fat if you want to think of it that way.
Okay, I'm curious. Why did you post this question when clearly your mind is already made up?
I know I'm logging it as cardio (I thought that was obvious from the original post) I'm asking HOW MUCH
depends on how high you jump for how long and before 9PM or after?
I'm not looking for specifics. I'm looking for ballpark. I said that from the beginning. I realize that there is NO WAY I can be exact about this... I'm looking at eating at maintenance... is there a formula for that?
Are you using a Fitbit? Wear the Fitbit and let that handle the adjustment.
Otherwise, the answer is 42.
ETA: For your maintenance calories use: http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/
1) no I don't have a fitbit
2) nice reference
3) THANK YOU for the actual helpful info0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »why would you assume we dont know about rock concerts? lol
But since you have problems with the options we gave you here is another one
log 500 burned calories eat half of them back above your daily calorie allotment ( lol would be a bit the same as your maintenance level?) The outcome is still a bit the same
And i dont see the problem in all of it.
I like this idea... I don't actually know my maintenance level, I haven't done the math.
@TheOwlhouseDesigns right here. See?
your maintenance level is your daily calorie allotment + deficit.
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I never insinuated that. If I had said "You obviously haven't ever been to a concert" I could see that. But that's not what I said.Liftng4Lis wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »I don't know if any of you have ever been to a rock concert, but it generally involves a lot of jumping... which I would consider exercise
Snort! NOPE, we don't have them here in America!
Again, I would consider this already accounted for in my activity level. You asked the question and aren't liking the answer that the majority of the people on this board are going to provide. You will find people here that log cooking and cleaning as well, I'm sure they'll be along soon.
you realize I am an American right? I only said that because of the comments that it's counted in my activity level... I am WAY more active at a concert than I would be most other days.
Also, I don't log things I do every day like cooking and cleaning. but I suppose a lot of you would say I shouldn't have logged helping my boyfriend move even though I know I burned over 1000 calories doing so.
I guess the thing I'm really concerned about is that for a 3+ hour concert full of jumping and dancing I'm afraid that I'm not going to eat ENOUGH. But at the same time I don't want to over eat in an attempt to avoid under eating. I know one day wont throw me off, but as @sllrunner said I try to be as accurate as possible which is why I'm just looking for some ballpark numbers.
Nope, didn't look, as it's irrelevant to the question.
Then you shouldn't have made the statement as it was rude.
Insinuating no one but you had ever been to a concert was rude.
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Running is also exercise, but I don't try to time how long I have to chase my kids each day - it isn't exercise.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
it is exercise related, see previous comments... I intend for it to be my cardio for the dayWheelhouse15 wrote: »None, logging isn't about trying to figure out how many extra calories you can eat if you do such and such and activity that isn't exercise related. They are about estimates for daily averages to help guide you. Use it as a time to burn a little bonus fat if you want to think of it that way.
Technically, no it's not considered exercise it's considered non-exercise but the difference is often a matter of interpretation e.g. an athlete wouldn't considered a game exercise under this definition, as far as I know, because it's part of their normal activity. If you want to count it as dancing ok, but I would lower the actual time since you aren't going to be jumping around the whole time.
I would be very conservative with logging since we have a lot of people here who log a lot of things as extra activities but then complain they can't lose.
Last time I checked dancing and jumping both qualify as exercise... just because I'm doing it at a concert venue instead of at the gym doesn't mean it's not exercise.
If you go by the MFP database, typing is an exercise.
If you go by the MFP database, sex is an exercise, and if you're having it to eat an extra sandwich, I think you've lost the plot somewhere.
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »why would you assume we dont know about rock concerts? lol
But since you have problems with the options we gave you here is another one
log 500 burned calories eat half of them back above your daily calorie allotment ( lol would be a bit the same as your maintenance level?) The outcome is still a bit the same
And i dont see the problem in all of it.
I like this idea... I don't actually know my maintenance level, I haven't done the math.
@TheOwlhouseDesigns right here. See?
your maintenance level is your daily calorie allotment + deficit.
I don't know exactly what my deficit is... I use a calorie allotment that I was given. Someone else has given me a link to a calculator though, but thanks for your time0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »
what's interesting? That I call people out when they're being rude? I'm sorry.0 -
I never insinuated that. If I had said "You obviously haven't ever been to a concert" I could see that. But that's not what I said.Liftng4Lis wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »I don't know if any of you have ever been to a rock concert, but it generally involves a lot of jumping... which I would consider exercise
Snort! NOPE, we don't have them here in America!
Again, I would consider this already accounted for in my activity level. You asked the question and aren't liking the answer that the majority of the people on this board are going to provide. You will find people here that log cooking and cleaning as well, I'm sure they'll be along soon.
you realize I am an American right? I only said that because of the comments that it's counted in my activity level... I am WAY more active at a concert than I would be most other days.
Also, I don't log things I do every day like cooking and cleaning. but I suppose a lot of you would say I shouldn't have logged helping my boyfriend move even though I know I burned over 1000 calories doing so.
I guess the thing I'm really concerned about is that for a 3+ hour concert full of jumping and dancing I'm afraid that I'm not going to eat ENOUGH. But at the same time I don't want to over eat in an attempt to avoid under eating. I know one day wont throw me off, but as @sllrunner said I try to be as accurate as possible which is why I'm just looking for some ballpark numbers.
Nope, didn't look, as it's irrelevant to the question.
Then you shouldn't have made the statement as it was rude.
Insinuating no one but you had ever been to a concert was rude.
well it wasnt nice to start of with
There is a high possibility as wife of a musician that i saw more concerts in my life than you ever can imagine.
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