Whole 30
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Katiebear_81 wrote: »They're complaining over your use of the word 'chemicals', as everything is made up of some kind of chemical. Like bisodium carbonate (baking soda) or Hydrogen dioxide (water). Most things can be broken down into chemicals. I am sure they'd prefer it if you said that you were avoiding food additives or food that looks different from when it came out of the ground when you buy it.
I've done several whole 30's. I hope that you have good success on yours. I found that for me... Once I left my stay at home mom bubble, it was very difficult to keep up the strict paleo/whole foods lifestyle. Which then caused a ton of weight gain... because donuts!
To add to this, chemistry is quite literally the study of matter. All matter. So EVERYTHING is chemicals. Your body is chemicals. I don't mean contains, I mean IS chemicals.0 -
You are not a computer. You don't need resetting.Certain food groups (like sugar, grains, dairy and legumes) could be having a negative impact on your health and fitness without you even realizing it.
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Cut out all the psychologically unhealthy, hormone-unbalancing, gut-disrupting, inflammatory food groups for a full 30 days.
From the Whole30 site. Is there any research backing any of this up? Are they arguing that a significant number of people have food allergies they don't know about? Or are they saying that grains, legumes and dairy are inherently unhealthy?
If you like eating the way the program prescribes, great. But I think their claims are dubious.
Uneducated people will call this a fad. Read the book and try it. ..it will change your world. People who don't read the book over generaliz what they have heard and cannot comprehend the complete science behind the guidelines.
Think, research then be an expert otherwise it's just uneducated opinion.
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Do not consume added sugar of any kind, real or artificial.
Do not consume alcohol in any form, not even for cooking
Do not eat grains.
Do not eat legumes.
Do not eat dairy.
Do not consume carrageenan, MSG or sulfites.
Cut out all the psychologically unhealthy, hormone-unbalancing, gut-disrupting, inflammatory food groups for a full 30 days
What a crock?! I'm not lactose intolerant, I'm not an alcoholic, I don't have celiac disease, I'm not a diabetic.....why would I temporarily change my habits for 30 days? What would I gain from this? It's certainly not a lifestyle change.
What the he** is psychologically unhealthy food? I can generalize, because reading the book would not "educate" me. The book is not based on science, it' based on MARKETING.0 -
You are not a computer. You don't need resetting.Certain food groups (like sugar, grains, dairy and legumes) could be having a negative impact on your health and fitness without you even realizing it.
...
Cut out all the psychologically unhealthy, hormone-unbalancing, gut-disrupting, inflammatory food groups for a full 30 days.
From the Whole30 site. Is there any research backing any of this up? Are they arguing that a significant number of people have food allergies they don't know about? Or are they saying that grains, legumes and dairy are inherently unhealthy?
If you like eating the way the program prescribes, great. But I think their claims are dubious.
Uneducated people will call this a fad. Read the book and try it. ..it will change your world. People who don't read the book over generaliz what they have heard and cannot comprehend the complete science behind the guidelines.
Think, research then be an expert otherwise it's just uneducated opinion.
#someonehadtosayit
I notice you didn't address any of the questions I asked.
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You are not a computer. You don't need resetting.Certain food groups (like sugar, grains, dairy and legumes) could be having a negative impact on your health and fitness without you even realizing it.
...
Cut out all the psychologically unhealthy, hormone-unbalancing, gut-disrupting, inflammatory food groups for a full 30 days.
From the Whole30 site. Is there any research backing any of this up? Are they arguing that a significant number of people have food allergies they don't know about? Or are they saying that grains, legumes and dairy are inherently unhealthy?
If you like eating the way the program prescribes, great. But I think their claims are dubious.
I'll answer your questions:
1. "Is there any research backing any of this up?" Yes there is, read the book.
2. "Are they arguing that a significant number of people have food allergies they don't know about?" No, they aren't "arguing" anything. They are asking that if you're having digestive issues, skin issues, etc. . . have you ever considered it may be food related?
3. "Or are they saying that grains, legumes and dairy are inherently unhealthy?" Again, No, they are saying that some people have difficulty digesting legumes. I for one fit into that category. I suffer from IBS and my digestive system has difficulty digesting certain foods, namely most of which they mention, dairy, grains, legumes.
So, it has helped me tremendously. As for "psychologically unhealthy" foods, ever known anyone who couldn't eat just 1 potato chip? How about chocolate? That's me with milk chocolate, I can eat a whole bag of Hershey's Kisses. Some people have the same problem with alcohol.
You are blessed if you do not fall into any of these categories but please do not make people who do feel that they are less than intelligent for trying to find a solution to the problem. Thank you0 -
You are not a computer. You don't need resetting.Certain food groups (like sugar, grains, dairy and legumes) could be having a negative impact on your health and fitness without you even realizing it.
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Cut out all the psychologically unhealthy, hormone-unbalancing, gut-disrupting, inflammatory food groups for a full 30 days.
From the Whole30 site. Is there any research backing any of this up? Are they arguing that a significant number of people have food allergies they don't know about? Or are they saying that grains, legumes and dairy are inherently unhealthy?
If you like eating the way the program prescribes, great. But I think their claims are dubious.
Uneducated people will call this a fad. Read the book and try it. ..it will change your world. People who don't read the book over generaliz what they have heard and cannot comprehend the complete science behind the guidelines.
Think, research then be an expert otherwise it's just uneducated opinion.
#someonehadtosayit
I notice you didn't address any of the questions I asked.
Or the link I posted.
I've read the book and thought (among other things) that the rule about potatoes (and "argument" for it) was risible. Hmm, after some time they finally did change it. That doesn't make the others better, though.0 -
I'm on my first week of Whole30. Haven't done it long enough to have much of an opinion (only Day 6).... But I just read through this thread and clicked on lemurcat's "nutrition as I know it" link. Wow.... That is some good stuff!! Glad I read it! I will continue with Whole30 for personal reasons, but it's good to know when it comes to life after I can take the Hartwig's nutritional advice with a few grains of salt!0
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I am on day 15 of my first Whole30. Doing great so far. I was a naysayer originally because I thought it would be impossible to banish certain foods, and I have been living in a regimented counting and measure world. The idea of eating more fat and not counting calories kind of scared me. But, seeing my mom and sister's results over their 1st Whole30 and beyond so far, I decided I had to try it. Mom has lost 28 lbs since May, and sister has lost 15, both of their recent physical numbers have improved and they report that they are not craving sugar nearly as much as previously. It's still only a few months post, but my mom continues to lose weight since reintroducing some foods. She has chosen to follow the plan most of the time with the occasional treat, as the book recommends.
My sister is a PA for arguably the best cancer hospital in the world, and Dr's there are starting to recommend this way of eating to their patients. My general practitioner Dr has also recommended it. For me, that enough to at least give it a try.
So far, I have really enjoyed the way of eating and I am finding that I don't even miss grains, cheese and sugar (i never thought i would miss beans). Outside of two strong weekend wine cravings, I feel very in control. My clothes are fitting better, I have lost 6.5 lbs so far, and I am motivated to keep going. For me, surprisingly, I think this will work. In the past, when I have abstained from a certain food long enough, i eventually lost interest. I used to be a multiple diet soda a day person, and I had to put milk and sweetener in my coffee. A couple of years ago, I stopped drinking soda cold turkey and started drinking black coffee and tea and haven't ever gone back. I haven't had a soda in probably 2 years.
I admit I am only 2 weeks into this, and my family is only a few months in, so only time will tell. That will be interesting to see.
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Do not consume added sugar of any kind, real or artificial.
Do not consume alcohol in any form, not even for cooking
Do not eat grains.
Do not eat legumes.
Do not eat dairy.
Do not consume carrageenan, MSG or sulfites.
Cut out all the psychologically unhealthy, hormone-unbalancing, gut-disrupting, inflammatory food groups for a full 30 days
What a crock?! I'm not lactose intolerant, I'm not an alcoholic, I don't have celiac disease, I'm not a diabetic.....why would I temporarily change my habits for 30 days? What would I gain from this? It's certainly not a lifestyle change.
What the he** is psychologically unhealthy food? I can generalize, because reading the book would not "educate" me. The book is not based on science, it' based on MARKETING.
Isn't it a great thing that no one forces us to do/try any specific diet...we all can make our own choices.
It's not for me either but that in no way means it is not right for someone else. At one point however I was having some fairly strong digestives issues. I took a look at Whole30 see if it might make a difference. Instead I decided to follow the IBS/Bland diets to eliminate specific items from my diet. After about a month my digestive issues had resolved themselves and I was able to add back the food gradually that I discovered were causing my issues.
Again...we have choices...if one diet is not for you...there are other choices.
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Hi, I am considering starting the whole 30 and was looking through for information and came across this thread. I have to say I have found some peoples reactions to the OP pretty off putting and very negative, so much so that I couldn't read beyond the first page.
I personally would have welcomed joining the OP in this, but the idea that I would have to constantly justify my actions to others who appear to have their own agenda has put me off.
I just don't get it!! Surely if are interested in a thread, you follow it, if you are not interested or don't agree then stay away and let people male their own decisions?
OP I hope you are doing well and haven't let people put you off.1 -
giftbouquets wrote: »Hi, I am considering starting the whole 30 and was looking through for information and came across this thread. I have to say I have found some peoples reactions to the OP pretty off putting and very negative, so much so that I couldn't read beyond the first page.
I personally would have welcomed joining the OP in this, but the idea that I would have to constantly justify my actions to others who appear to have their own agenda has put me off.
I just don't get it!! Surely if are interested in a thread, you follow it, if you are not interested or don't agree then stay away and let people male their own decisions?
OP I hope you are doing well and haven't let people put you off.
Why would you feel as if you have to justify yourself to others? Why does it matter what anyone else thinks?
If you want to join and support the OP then why let some random strangers have that much control over you?
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Very educated person here calling it a fad.You are not a computer. You don't need resetting.Certain food groups (like sugar, grains, dairy and legumes) could be having a negative impact on your health and fitness without you even realizing it.
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Cut out all the psychologically unhealthy, hormone-unbalancing, gut-disrupting, inflammatory food groups for a full 30 days.
From the Whole30 site. Is there any research backing any of this up? Are they arguing that a significant number of people have food allergies they don't know about? Or are they saying that grains, legumes and dairy are inherently unhealthy?
If you like eating the way the program prescribes, great. But I think their claims are dubious.
Uneducated people will call this a fad. Read the book and try it. ..it will change your world. People who don't read the book over generaliz what they have heard and cannot comprehend the complete science behind the guidelines.
Think, research then be an expert otherwise it's just uneducated opinion.
#someonehadtosayit
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You are not a computer. You don't need resetting.Certain food groups (like sugar, grains, dairy and legumes) could be having a negative impact on your health and fitness without you even realizing it.
...
Cut out all the psychologically unhealthy, hormone-unbalancing, gut-disrupting, inflammatory food groups for a full 30 days.
From the Whole30 site. Is there any research backing any of this up? Are they arguing that a significant number of people have food allergies they don't know about? Or are they saying that grains, legumes and dairy are inherently unhealthy?
If you like eating the way the program prescribes, great. But I think their claims are dubious.
Uneducated people will call this a fad. Read the book and try it. ..it will change your world. People who don't read the book over generaliz what they have heard and cannot comprehend the complete science behind the guidelines.
Think, research then be an expert otherwise it's just uneducated opinion.
#someonehadtosayit
Being a beach body coach doesn't make you an expert on nutrition or fitness. There are actual experts who have said this is a fad0 -
I had someone tell me about this approach before and I do not quite understand what I'm dropping then re-introducing and where I start in terms of choices. I'm asking, so, do I stop fish for 30 days and then re-introduce them to see if it effects....what exactly? I'm not sure I understand the process of elimination and re-introduction. If you've answered this then forget my questions. I am curious how/what you start with and if I take something away for 30 days and re-introduce it doesn't it seem like this would take many years to complete?I'm not understanding this negativity.. It's just whole natural foods being eaten. Meat, fresh fruit and vegetables. Nuts and seeds. And it's 30 days.
If you were to have say a granola bar as a snack say 90 calories. A low calorie snack. That has 20+ ingredients in it. Have you ceocerturf ever looked at a nutritional label. Those..are the chemicals I speak off, that are in processed foods. You don't have to agree with my decision. But you also don't have to try and make me feel like an idiot.0 -
I am on Day 11 of my second Whole 30. During my first round I lost 10 pounds, saw my skin clear up, energy increased, I slept better, I had zero headaches or stomach aches, and my postpartum hair loss slowed down MUCH faster than it did with my first baby. The 30 days helped me to be aware of bad habits I'd fallen into, it taught me how to cook new things in new, healthy ways, it reduced my desire to snack all the time, and it gave me the boost I needed to start an exercise routine and stick with it!
The negativity on this thread is really...dumb. Whether or not you agree with all of the W30 claims, you cannot deny that eating fruits, vegetables, lean meants, nuts, seeds, and healthy fats is a bad thing. And no one is saying "never eat grains, dairy, beans, sugar, or alcohol again!". It is a short period of time eliminating foods that have be known to negatively affect people, and then you reintroduce them to see if they cause you any issues. With my reintroduction period I didn't find that I had major aversions to any of the non-compliant foods, but when I ate large amounts of grains, I just felt "heavy" and digestion wasn't as easy.
I'm doing a second round to curb some habits that have crept back in and to lost a little more weight (I've only gained back 2 of the 10 pounds I lost) and gain some energy back before a beach vacation next month. I plan on doing W30 (or W10-15) once or twice a year as a "reset".
Good luck to those of you starting a W30!0 -
I am on Day 11 of my second Whole 30. During my first round I lost 10 pounds, saw my skin clear up, energy increased, I slept better, I had zero headaches or stomach aches, and my postpartum hair loss slowed down MUCH faster than it did with my first baby. The 30 days helped me to be aware of bad habits I'd fallen into, it taught me how to cook new things in new, healthy ways, it reduced my desire to snack all the time, and it gave me the boost I needed to start an exercise routine and stick with it!
The negativity on this thread is really...dumb. Whether or not you agree with all of the W30 claims, you cannot deny that eating fruits, vegetables, lean meants, nuts, seeds, and healthy fats is a bad thing. And no one is saying "never eat grains, dairy, beans, sugar, or alcohol again!". It is a short period of time eliminating foods that have be known to negatively affect people, and then you reintroduce them to see if they cause you any issues. With my reintroduction period I didn't find that I had major aversions to any of the non-compliant foods, but when I ate large amounts of grains, I just felt "heavy" and digestion wasn't as easy.
I'm doing a second round to curb some habits that have crept back in and to lost a little more weight (I've only gained back 2 of the 10 pounds I lost) and gain some energy back before a beach vacation next month. I plan on doing W30 (or W10-15) once or twice a year as a "reset".
Good luck to those of you starting a W30!
the thing with cutting certain foods out for 30 days,for some people that wont be enough time to see if its causing them allergies or other issues. most drs will say a few months then slowly reintroduce one food at a time,and then repeat with another food if still having issues. for me I was having stomach issues with one brand of eggs, couldnt understand why that was so I stopped eating them for a few months, no issues, went back to them and noticed I had stomach issues again,so I brought another brand and had NO issues. what exactly are you resetting? also I have seen no negativity,most people here have tried these things or know others who have and they are just letting others know about the program,.a lot of them do research and know what they are talking about.to me any diet you have to pay for or that promises fast results then its a fad.0 -
I've done whole30 twice now and have had great results each time. The first I lost 12 pounds and the second I lost 10. It can get rough and you can get hangry but be VERY PREPARED. have your breakfast ready, lunch planned, etc. Love eggs, eat a lot of them. Get acquainted with aidell's chicken sausage. You will have great results and feel amazing by the end of it. If anyone wants some help, feel free to add me or message me. I'm counting and not even remotely eating paleo, but that's because my life is crazy hectic right now.0
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