Diet soda
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This thread always bugged me and, yeah, I could've maybe handled myself better, but the idea that people would not acknowledge that water was better than diet soda simply blew my mind. So, here's apparently the latest information:
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/drink/why-you-should-stop-drinking-diet-soft-drink/news-story/4f54559d32586cddade9c0416c7539e2
Too bad the authors don't understand the difference between correlation and causation. Maybe that would help lend at least a shred of credibility to a hack piece that's otherwise just pseudoscientific fearmongering.9 -
the other problem is that diet coke is 98% water - 98% - how can that not add to your hydration goals for the day?!?!?5
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OK, I'm sorry, but the people saying diet soda is OK to drink are just plain WRONG. Artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain.
"Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza." - from health.com
Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
It wasn't the drink that was causing the people to have health issues. It was them having healthy issues, then trying to counteract it with a "diet" soda.2 -
PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza."
That's funny. One of the reasons I CAN have a double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza is BECAUSE I now get my soda fix from diet instead of regular, in the context of tracking calories.
This is exactly what I do. By getting the diet soda, I am not making my big mac with fries better, I'm just not making it worse.2 -
OK, I'm sorry, but the people saying diet soda is OK to drink are just plain WRONG. Artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain.
"Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza." - from health.com
Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
Or you can actually look at why aspertame is not so scary: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
And understand that coorelation =/= causation. Also, can you provide the link to that study?
And the bold is rather funny, because if that was true, I wouldn't have lost weight. @CyberEd312 (another mod) who drinks diet diet pepsi wouldn't have lose 300+ lbs.
Of course, because someone lost weight (and a massive amount of it) while drinking diet soda that completely negates the negative arguments against that poison.
Do you plan on backing up your thoughts with anything credible?
<<---By the way - from 255lbs to 175lbs in 9 months drinking 3 diet sodas per day... Where is that fat storage you mention?
IS that your actual picture in your avatar?0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Chayacandoit wrote: »what happens if I swap my water for diet caffein free coke? Am I still getting the adequate hydration?
Since this was the original question, can we agree that pure water is a superior source for hydration and a wholesale swap for diet soda is probably not a great idea? I'm a big fan of everything in moderation, which was a point made several times in this thread.
Personally, I think at best the jury is out on long term effects of diet sweeteners, but the verdict on water is in: It's darn good for you.
The effects of sweeteners have been studied for the past 3 decades or so. I think that's long enough for long term effects to be noticed. Unless you're scared you might get sick at 90 years old from it.
Wasn't long enough for margarine/trans fats. But hey, clearly the overwhelming response is "go for it". Monsanto thanks you all for you advocacy. IMHO, There is something seriously wrong with a message board that can't say water is better than diet soda. That doesn't even pass the giggle test.
Monsanto didn't invent aspartame, but you automatically bringing them into this conversation shows how little you actually know.3 -
Shawshankcan wrote: »OK, I'm sorry, but the people saying diet soda is OK to drink are just plain WRONG. Artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain.
"Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza." - from health.com
Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
Or you can actually look at why aspertame is not so scary: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
And understand that coorelation =/= causation. Also, can you provide the link to that study?
And the bold is rather funny, because if that was true, I wouldn't have lost weight. @CyberEd312 (another mod) who drinks diet diet pepsi wouldn't have lose 300+ lbs.
Of course, because someone lost weight (and a massive amount of it) while drinking diet soda that completely negates the negative arguments against that poison.
Do you plan on backing up your thoughts with anything credible?
<<---By the way - from 255lbs to 175lbs in 9 months drinking 3 diet sodas per day... Where is that fat storage you mention?
IS that your actual picture in your avatar?
Yes. I was 178lbs at 7% at that point. Diet Soda did nothing but help, not hinder me getting there.6 -
Shawshankcan wrote: »OK, I'm sorry, but the people saying diet soda is OK to drink are just plain WRONG. Artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain.
"Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza." - from health.com
Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
Or you can actually look at why aspertame is not so scary: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
And understand that coorelation =/= causation. Also, can you provide the link to that study?
And the bold is rather funny, because if that was true, I wouldn't have lost weight. @CyberEd312 (another mod) who drinks diet diet pepsi wouldn't have lose 300+ lbs.
Of course, because someone lost weight (and a massive amount of it) while drinking diet soda that completely negates the negative arguments against that poison.
Do you plan on backing up your thoughts with anything credible?
<<---By the way - from 255lbs to 175lbs in 9 months drinking 3 diet sodas per day... Where is that fat storage you mention?
IS that your actual picture in your avatar?
Yes. I was 178lbs at 7% at that point. Diet Soda did nothing but help, not hinder me getting there.Shawshankcan wrote: »OK, I'm sorry, but the people saying diet soda is OK to drink are just plain WRONG. Artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain.
"Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza." - from health.com
Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
Or you can actually look at why aspertame is not so scary: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
And understand that coorelation =/= causation. Also, can you provide the link to that study?
And the bold is rather funny, because if that was true, I wouldn't have lost weight. @CyberEd312 (another mod) who drinks diet diet pepsi wouldn't have lose 300+ lbs.
Of course, because someone lost weight (and a massive amount of it) while drinking diet soda that completely negates the negative arguments against that poison.
Do you plan on backing up your thoughts with anything credible?
<<---By the way - from 255lbs to 175lbs in 9 months drinking 3 diet sodas per day... Where is that fat storage you mention?
IS that your actual picture in your avatar?
Yes. I was 178lbs at 7% at that point. Diet Soda did nothing but help, not hinder me getting there.
I was just going to say it looks like some damn fine work you put in.2 -
Shawshankcan wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »OK, I'm sorry, but the people saying diet soda is OK to drink are just plain WRONG. Artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain.
"Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza." - from health.com
Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
Or you can actually look at why aspertame is not so scary: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
And understand that coorelation =/= causation. Also, can you provide the link to that study?
And the bold is rather funny, because if that was true, I wouldn't have lost weight. @CyberEd312 (another mod) who drinks diet diet pepsi wouldn't have lose 300+ lbs.
Of course, because someone lost weight (and a massive amount of it) while drinking diet soda that completely negates the negative arguments against that poison.
Do you plan on backing up your thoughts with anything credible?
<<---By the way - from 255lbs to 175lbs in 9 months drinking 3 diet sodas per day... Where is that fat storage you mention?
IS that your actual picture in your avatar?
Yes. I was 178lbs at 7% at that point. Diet Soda did nothing but help, not hinder me getting there.Shawshankcan wrote: »OK, I'm sorry, but the people saying diet soda is OK to drink are just plain WRONG. Artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain.
"Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza." - from health.com
Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
Or you can actually look at why aspertame is not so scary: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
And understand that coorelation =/= causation. Also, can you provide the link to that study?
And the bold is rather funny, because if that was true, I wouldn't have lost weight. @CyberEd312 (another mod) who drinks diet diet pepsi wouldn't have lose 300+ lbs.
Of course, because someone lost weight (and a massive amount of it) while drinking diet soda that completely negates the negative arguments against that poison.
Do you plan on backing up your thoughts with anything credible?
<<---By the way - from 255lbs to 175lbs in 9 months drinking 3 diet sodas per day... Where is that fat storage you mention?
IS that your actual picture in your avatar?
Yes. I was 178lbs at 7% at that point. Diet Soda did nothing but help, not hinder me getting there.
I was just going to say it looks like some damn fine work you put in.
Thanks man.1 -
Shawshankcan wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »OK, I'm sorry, but the people saying diet soda is OK to drink are just plain WRONG. Artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain.
"Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza." - from health.com
Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
Or you can actually look at why aspertame is not so scary: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
And understand that coorelation =/= causation. Also, can you provide the link to that study?
And the bold is rather funny, because if that was true, I wouldn't have lost weight. @CyberEd312 (another mod) who drinks diet diet pepsi wouldn't have lose 300+ lbs.
Of course, because someone lost weight (and a massive amount of it) while drinking diet soda that completely negates the negative arguments against that poison.
Do you plan on backing up your thoughts with anything credible?
<<---By the way - from 255lbs to 175lbs in 9 months drinking 3 diet sodas per day... Where is that fat storage you mention?
IS that your actual picture in your avatar?
Yes. I was 178lbs at 7% at that point. Diet Soda did nothing but help, not hinder me getting there.Shawshankcan wrote: »OK, I'm sorry, but the people saying diet soda is OK to drink are just plain WRONG. Artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain.
"Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza." - from health.com
Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
Or you can actually look at why aspertame is not so scary: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
And understand that coorelation =/= causation. Also, can you provide the link to that study?
And the bold is rather funny, because if that was true, I wouldn't have lost weight. @CyberEd312 (another mod) who drinks diet diet pepsi wouldn't have lose 300+ lbs.
Of course, because someone lost weight (and a massive amount of it) while drinking diet soda that completely negates the negative arguments against that poison.
Do you plan on backing up your thoughts with anything credible?
<<---By the way - from 255lbs to 175lbs in 9 months drinking 3 diet sodas per day... Where is that fat storage you mention?
IS that your actual picture in your avatar?
Yes. I was 178lbs at 7% at that point. Diet Soda did nothing but help, not hinder me getting there.
I was just going to say it looks like some damn fine work you put in.
I agree, damn fine.4 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »Shawshankcan wrote: »OK, I'm sorry, but the people saying diet soda is OK to drink are just plain WRONG. Artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain.
"Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza." - from health.com
Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
Or you can actually look at why aspertame is not so scary: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
And understand that coorelation =/= causation. Also, can you provide the link to that study?
And the bold is rather funny, because if that was true, I wouldn't have lost weight. @CyberEd312 (another mod) who drinks diet diet pepsi wouldn't have lose 300+ lbs.
Of course, because someone lost weight (and a massive amount of it) while drinking diet soda that completely negates the negative arguments against that poison.
Do you plan on backing up your thoughts with anything credible?
<<---By the way - from 255lbs to 175lbs in 9 months drinking 3 diet sodas per day... Where is that fat storage you mention?
IS that your actual picture in your avatar?
Yes. I was 178lbs at 7% at that point. Diet Soda did nothing but help, not hinder me getting there.Shawshankcan wrote: »OK, I'm sorry, but the people saying diet soda is OK to drink are just plain WRONG. Artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain.
"Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza." - from health.com
Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
Or you can actually look at why aspertame is not so scary: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
And understand that coorelation =/= causation. Also, can you provide the link to that study?
And the bold is rather funny, because if that was true, I wouldn't have lost weight. @CyberEd312 (another mod) who drinks diet diet pepsi wouldn't have lose 300+ lbs.
Of course, because someone lost weight (and a massive amount of it) while drinking diet soda that completely negates the negative arguments against that poison.
Do you plan on backing up your thoughts with anything credible?
<<---By the way - from 255lbs to 175lbs in 9 months drinking 3 diet sodas per day... Where is that fat storage you mention?
IS that your actual picture in your avatar?
Yes. I was 178lbs at 7% at that point. Diet Soda did nothing but help, not hinder me getting there.
I was just going to say it looks like some damn fine work you put in.
I agree, damn fine.
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snowwhitekitty wrote: »There are a lot of chemicals in it still. It can set you up for more sugar cravings later...but my DIETITIAN drinks 2 cans a week!
I'd say anything is fine in moderation!
I drink 2+ cans a day and I don't have any sugar cravings. In fact, I almost never crave sweets. I've lost 130lbs. If you want diet soda, drink diet soda. It's mostly water and does indeed count towards your hydration. Your choice.3 -
You are getting hydration, but you may want to consider overall health if you are having it on a regular basis.
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2017/04/heres-more-evidence-diet-sodas-arent-good-for-you.html
Even the scientists acknowledged that more research is necessary before any firm conclusions can be drawn, but there have been numerous studies indicating the possibility of various negative health effects. But make your own decision.1 -
MoiAussi93 wrote: »You are getting hydration, but you may want to consider overall health if you are having it on a regular basis.
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2017/04/heres-more-evidence-diet-sodas-arent-good-for-you.html
Even the scientists acknowledged that more research is necessary before any firm conclusions can be drawn, but there have been numerous studies indicating the possibility of various negative health effects. But make your own decision.
Edited: The problem with these types of studies, is they are recall and questionnaires, which are generally the lowest quality study you can have. At that point, it's extremely hard to identify specific issues as a plethora of dietary and genetic factors can come into play.
http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/early/2017/04/20/STROKEAHA.116.0160275 -
This thread always bugged me and, yeah, I could've maybe handled myself better, but the idea that people would not acknowledge that water was better than diet soda simply blew my mind. So, here's apparently the latest information:
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/drink/why-you-should-stop-drinking-diet-soft-drink/news-story/4f54559d32586cddade9c0416c7539e2
It bugged you so much that nearly 2 years later you comeback to it with this article??????
Wow.
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paperpudding wrote: »This thread always bugged me and, yeah, I could've maybe handled myself better, but the idea that people would not acknowledge that water was better than diet soda simply blew my mind. So, here's apparently the latest information:
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/drink/why-you-should-stop-drinking-diet-soft-drink/news-story/4f54559d32586cddade9c0416c7539e2
It bugged you so much that nearly 2 years later you comeback to it with this article??????
Wow.
Dangit! I missed the fact that it was a zombie resurrection.0 -
I noticed because I saw posts by myself and couldn't remember posting them.
Which wasn't so surprising when I realised I made them nearly 2 years ago.
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Have you ever replayed an argument over in your head, coming up with the best zingers way after the fact? That's what this resurrection feels like.4
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Disagree. Many people can't sense true hunger and eat because of behavior. Water is great for hydration and essential for life, but you're not "flushing" toxins out of your body. The body naturally relieves waste whether you're drinking water or not.dnenesingleton wrote: »It's said that diet coke can actually make you gain weight because it causes you to be more hungry. I personally love the stuff but limit it to 1-2 per week because of it. Water is always the better choice and flushes out toxins in your body.
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And yet people all over the world who drink it don't have the same issues as Americans. The issue with all the issues you provided above is PEOPLE EAT TO DAMN MUCH to begin with. Diet soda doesn't add calories. Ask any doctor that if they REDUCED significant weight from being obese/very overweight EVEN IF THEY DRANK DIET SODA, would their health improve? Bet they all have the same answer........................and that would be yes.OK, I'm sorry, but the people saying diet soda is OK to drink are just plain WRONG. Artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain.
"Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza." - from health.com
Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
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dmiller644 wrote: »I use to love diet coke but decided to quit drinking it to see if it changed my cravings. I lost five pounds in the first month of nit drinking it, I think I craved sweets with it. I felt way less bloated and my headaches went away. My sister cut it out too and had the same results;)
I dropped 10 pounds in a month while drinking at least two diet sodas a day. Go figure. Oh, I was in a calorie deficit.2 -
OK, I'm sorry, but the people saying diet soda is OK to drink are just plain WRONG. Artificial sweeteners like aspartame, saccharin, and sucralose have been shown to have the same effect on your body as sugar. Artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain.
"Researchers from the University of Texas found that over the course of about a decade, diet soda drinkers had a 70% greater increase in waist circumference compared with non-drinkers. And get this: participants who slurped down two or more sodas a day experienced a 500% greater increase. The way artificial sweeteners confuse the body may play a part, but another reason might be psychological, says Minnesota-based dietitian Cassie Bjork. When you know you're not consuming any liquid calories, it might be easier to justify that double cheeseburger or extra slice of pizza." - from health.com
Drinking one diet soda a day was associated with a 36% increased risk of metabolic syndrome and diabetes in a University of Minnesota study. Metabolic syndrome describes a cluster of conditions (including high blood pressure, elevated glucose levels, raised cholesterol, and large waist circumference) that put people at high risk for heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
Or you can actually look at why aspertame is not so scary: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
And understand that coorelation =/= causation. Also, can you provide the link to that study?
And the bold is rather funny, because if that was true, I wouldn't have lost weight. @CyberEd312 (another mod) who drinks diet diet pepsi wouldn't have lose 300+ lbs.
Of course, because someone lost weight (and a massive amount of it) while drinking diet soda that completely negates the negative arguments against that poison.
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MoiAussi93 wrote: »You are getting hydration, but you may want to consider overall health if you are having it on a regular basis.
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2017/04/heres-more-evidence-diet-sodas-arent-good-for-you.html
Even the scientists acknowledged that more research is necessary before any firm conclusions can be drawn, but there have been numerous studies indicating the possibility of various negative health effects. But make your own decision.
50+ years of research, the most researched food additive in existence, but "more research is necessary". That's usually said by people who don't like the outcome of the research that is available.5 -
My husband is addicted to diet soda and has significant issues with aching joints, particularly in his hands. As soon as he stops drinking it, the pain stops. There is research out there about the correlation. I'm not taking the time to site it here, but be fully aware there are health issues related to any kind of soda, diet or not.1
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I find drinking straight water to be something I cannot do. I start with the best intentions but with in a few days I end up not having enough hydration.
Diet Cokes or Diet drinks leave me bloated from the carbonation and the caffeine will generate some hunger cravings or eating cues.
Decaffeinated Diet Drinks do alleviate that problem but the bloating from the carbonation is still there.
I have found that the artificially sweetened water flavorings work best for me. The Great Value Brand from Walmart in particular. They are inexpensive and strong on flavor with no caffeine or carbonation.
Another bonus is that since the cost is so low that if you choose to use only half the packet and discard the rest it isn't a grievous thing which will generate the "Mother told me there are starving children in the 3rd world so clean your plate syndrome" which many of you may have endured as children.
Are artificial sweeteners bad? Lots of studies in varying degrees but hey I am 57 years old and my brain has yet to turn to porridge.
I have a lot more pressing problems to deal with specifically 66.4 lbs of them to achieve my goal and go into maintenance. When I get there I will probably reevaluate and re-calibrate my diet to stay there but till then I am going to go with what works.
There is an old adage from off road racing which applies here: Sometimes you just have to "Run What You Brung!"
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Wynterbourne wrote: »snowwhitekitty wrote: »There are a lot of chemicals in it still. It can set you up for more sugar cravings later...but my DIETITIAN drinks 2 cans a week! I'd say anything is fine in moderation!
I drink 2+ cans a day and I don't have any sugar cravings. In fact, I almost never crave sweets. I've lost 130lbs. If you want diet soda, drink diet soda. It's mostly water and does indeed count towards your hydration. Your choice.
I drank 4-5+ cans a day here and had no sugar/food cravings I did recently cut it back to around 1 can a day, due to issues with my teeth, (I switched to coffee and then my dentist informed me that's just as bad for teeth enamel sigh....). But diet soda was a huge help to me during my active weight loss phase and also in maintenance, and I don't anticipate ever cutting it out completely! 0 -
Oh... my!paperpudding wrote: »This thread always bugged me and, yeah, I could've maybe handled myself better, but the idea that people would not acknowledge that water was better than diet soda simply blew my mind. So, here's apparently the latest information:
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/drink/why-you-should-stop-drinking-diet-soft-drink/news-story/4f54559d32586cddade9c0416c7539e2
It bugged you so much that nearly 2 years later you comeback to it with this article??????
Wow.
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My husband is addicted to diet soda and has significant issues with aching joints, particularly in his hands. As soon as he stops drinking it, the pain stops. There is research out there about the correlation. I'm not taking the time to site it here, but be fully aware there are health issues related to any kind of soda, diet or not.
My mum has osteoporosis and one of the very first things her specialist asked her was if she drinks soda. Yes, she did used to drink a lot of it
He made her swear black and blue to quit drinking it or else it will just make her condition get worse than it has to. 0 -
My husband is addicted to diet soda and has significant issues with aching joints, particularly in his hands. As soon as he stops drinking it, the pain stops. There is research out there about the correlation. I'm not taking the time to site it here, but be fully aware there are health issues related to any kind of soda, diet or not.
I don't doubt that some people are sensitive or allergic to some ingredients in some things - so diet soda is no exception
But that doesnt mean it is bad for everyone else.
Just like as I have said before, my husband is allergic to cats (gets weepy eyes, runny nose, sneezing, rash) - but I dont extrapolate from that to say "as soon as he is away from cats or cat fur, the symptoms stop - be fully aware there are health issues related to pets, cats or not."
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Christine_72 wrote: »My husband is addicted to diet soda and has significant issues with aching joints, particularly in his hands. As soon as he stops drinking it, the pain stops. There is research out there about the correlation. I'm not taking the time to site it here, but be fully aware there are health issues related to any kind of soda, diet or not.
My mum has osteoporosis and one of the very first things her specialist asked her was if she drinks soda. Yes, she did used to drink a lot of it He made her swear black and blue to quit drinking it or else it will just make her condition get worse than it has to.
yes i believe this has to do with uptake of calcium into bones and sodas in excessive amount can have detrimental effect on this - nothing to do with artificial sweeteners though, same issue for regular or diet soda.
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