All pills are not snake oil
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Has the OP actually provided ANY concrete examples of
- a supplement that works as a diet pill
- or has beneficial effects
- That can be backed up with credible evidence that it works
- That has been unfairly dismissed by the majority of mfpers as she claims and can prove.
I'd read the whole thread again, but it does tend to make your eyes bleed.
If the OP cnat provide concrete examples, then what is she going on about and how has it got to ten pages?
Oh and 1 person agreed with her v how many who didnt?
I'm still waiting for the example of someone saying they were on meds for a bad liver and got a response of "CICO."0 -
DeguelloTex wrote: »
Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.strong_curves wrote: »
Dude you just quoted my favorite movie ever....ALIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I
you!
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strong_curves wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.strong_curves wrote: »
Dude you just quoted my favorite movie ever....ALIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I you!
Because it's the greatest movie ever!!!0 -
strong_curves wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.strong_curves wrote: »
Dude you just quoted my favorite movie ever....ALIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I you!
Because it's the greatest movie ever!!!
I waver back & forth between Alien & Aliens. I love both movies so hard and Ripley was such an inspiration to me!
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DeguelloTex wrote: »rjmudlax13 wrote: »I'm sorry I just get annoyed that I've read so many questions about supplements, and people just cut and paste "only a calorie deficit works".
Can you provide specific examples? "Only a calorie deficit works" when it comes to purely weight loss is a 100% true statement.Or instantly post the thing doesn't work and is snake oil and will only lean your pockets.
Again, we need a specific example. There are about 1,000,452,506,130 threads on here asking whether green bean coffee extract and raspberry ketones work. There is very little scientific evidence, if any, that show these specific supplements actually do anything. Most of the regulars here know it, so they give the advice that it is useless and just a scam. Are you saying they should just shut up?People have posted about medical issues and that's the response without reading, i.e. "my doctor prescribed such and such for my bad liver. will it make me gain weight"? response: "there are no magic pills." smh.
And the broken record continues. Please give a specific example. I have never heard anyone on hear say that medication prescribed by a doctor is just a magic pill. I could be mistaken though. If someone did say this, it's probably someone on the fringe who has a mistrust of the medical industry as a whole.I realize there are no pills that you eat whatever you want and live on the couch and lose 50 pounds a day. But some supplements might effectively curb your appetite, or give you the energy to work out, etc. and even if it is a placebo effect on some of them, so what? If you're eating better and working out more and blame the pill, what's the harm unless it's actually dangerous.
Some supplements do work to curb appetite or give energy, etc. Caffeine and creatine to name a few. The benefits and side effects of the 2 specifics I mentioned are well documented and proven. I doubt any of the regulars here would call these snake oil. However, there are some reasonable and legitimate concerns on the efficacy and safety of these. If you need a placebo to motivate you then fine. However, I see no problem with someone suggesting that you can do it without the placebo and save some of your hard earned money too. In fact, I think it would be very good advice.I think posting that a supplement is snake oil without knowing anything about it is just as reckless as promoting something you know nothing about. Supplements obviously work for some people. I think it makes more sense to talk about specific research and what the pros and cons and potential dangers are rather than just jumping on people whenever they mention any sort of pill. If you don't know, you don't have to answer.
Again, specifics are needed. Most people here do not call a supplement snake oil without knowing anything about it. A lot of people here are very knowledgeable. Also, if someone promotes a supplement that know one knows about, the burden of proof is on the promoter. For example, I can say that monkey spit will burn body fat. I am perfectly entitled to that opinion. Also, others are perfectly entitled to criticize my opinion if they don't agree. However, it is up to me to provide the scientific proof that it works. I can't make the claim and then say "well if you don't think it works, prove me wrong." That would be illogical.
But I didn't read your post obviously. I just read the title and assumed you were obese. So my opinion can be discounted.
So if a new member comes here and posts "hey, guys, I'm new to the boards, looking for some support on this journey. I've had some success with xyz but it made me to jittery. My friend recommended abc and I'm wondering if anyone has tried it"
You think saying "there are no magic pills" is better than actually having a discussion about abc? And you think being sarcastic and condescending towards new posters is a good style for people here to learn? If you do, fine we disagree. If you don't then why are you arguing with me? I didn't ask for a supplement lesson.
If "ABC" has no science to support it or has potentially dangerous side effects your darn right I'm going to speak my mind and tell them the potential dangers of that supplement. and I will add there are no magic pills to my post.... just as I usually do because that's the truth.
But it's frustrating when people claim to be interested in helping people when their approach and refusal to self reflect clearly shows they care more about trying to sound superior.
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strong_curves wrote: »strong_curves wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.strong_curves wrote: »
Dude you just quoted my favorite movie ever....ALIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I you!
Because it's the greatest movie ever!!!
I waver back & forth between Alien & Aliens. I love both movies so hard and Ripley was such an inspiration to me!
Recently rented out a theater to watch Aliens as only those of us over 40 saw this on the big screen.
Two of my all time favorite movies - both brilliant!0 -
They are both amazing films in their own way. Alien is a bit timeless and amazing considering when it was made. Aliens has one of the best shots ever when mommy alien has ripley cornered at the end and the gunship rises up....0
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They are both amazing films in their own way. Alien is a bit timeless and amazing considering when it was made. Aliens has one of the best shots ever when mommy alien has ripley cornered at the end and the gunship rises up....
Alien has the iconic chest bursting scene. I remember seeing that as a kid and being terrified! It's been my favorite part of the movie ever since.
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I have a gif for that.strong_curves wrote: »They are both amazing films in their own way. Alien is a bit timeless and amazing considering when it was made. Aliens has one of the best shots ever when mommy alien has ripley cornered at the end and the gunship rises up....
Alien has the iconic chest bursting scene. I remember seeing that as a kid and being terrified! It's been my favorite part of the movie ever since.
Nice devolution of this thread.
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I've read a lot of posts on this site and I know there's no miracle pill but I do take supplements. Everyday. Everyone has there reasons, mine happen to be because my doctor told me to. I agree partially with the poster and partially with some others. When we reply to a post we should be helpful not critical and judgmental. People come here for help and support.0
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UltimateRBF wrote: »strong_curves wrote: »They are both amazing films in their own way. Alien is a bit timeless and amazing considering when it was made. Aliens has one of the best shots ever when mommy alien has ripley cornered at the end and the gunship rises up....
Alien has the iconic chest bursting scene. I remember seeing that as a kid and being terrified! It's been my favorite part of the movie ever since.
Granted I first saw that movie years after it came out and I was a teenager/young adult...
But the chestburster scene never bothered me. It's almost funny, and the special effects don't really hold up.
The part that scares the bejeezus out of me is when Ash (I think that's his name) gets blown to smithereens, is revealed to be an android and his freaking disembodied head keeps talking and mumbling. Haunts my dreams I say.
Oh dear Lord yes! That gurgly voice and the creepy distant way he's referring to the team as necessary losses.
The casting in both and performances were just perfect.0 -
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I don't think I've ever seen the original Alien. I saw Alien vs. Predator though. I guess I have a movie to thrown on my netflix queue0
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Now THIS is a thread topic I can get behind - Alien!0
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I have a gif for that.strong_curves wrote: »They are both amazing films in their own way. Alien is a bit timeless and amazing considering when it was made. Aliens has one of the best shots ever when mommy alien has ripley cornered at the end and the gunship rises up....
Alien has the iconic chest bursting scene. I remember seeing that as a kid and being terrified! It's been my favorite part of the movie ever since.
Nice devolution of this thread.
I have heart eyes for you right now!0 -
I try to keep in mind the time frame the movie was made when I watch them- like when I saw terminator for the first time. But I will make sure to watch it in a dark room.
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strong_curves wrote: »
Apparently it isn't available on instant queue on Netflix. I'm sure I can find a torrent of it somewhere though.0 -
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Snake oil
Snake oil
Snake oil
To lose weight - eat at a calorie deficit0 -
UltimateRBF wrote: »strong_curves wrote: »
Apparently it isn't available on instant queue on Netflix. I'm sure I can find a torrent of it somewhere though.
The word t o r r e n t is censored. That is the wierdest thing I've ever seen.
Yes I quoted you to see what naughty word you used that got blotted out.
That's so odd!
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UltimateRBF wrote: »I'm surprised this thread has not gotten nuked
I bet if NDJ posts , it'll get nuked quickly. Lol !0 -
I just want say there are no magical weight loss pills, this is for you, OP.
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People have posted about medical issues and that's the response without reading, i.e. "my doctor prescribed such and such for my bad liver. will it make me gain weight"? response: "there are no magic pills."
I have been here for years and I have never seen anyone say such a thing for legitimate medical issues.
Every other single supplement that is marketed for weight loss is a gimmick in my book though. Doesn't mean that they do not produce success, but only as a result of other changes in diet and exercise that ALL of them require. But if people want to spend money on what is essentially a placebo...and it works for them to get healthy. Fine. But don't push the magic fat isolating molecular enzymatic marketing science that passes the legal department off as anything more than it is...snake oil.
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LOL. Op has 13 friends, all with no weight loss, no profile information, and probably stolen photos.
Beach Body coaching at its finest.0 -
LOL. Op has 13 friends, all with no weight loss, no profile information, and probably stolen photos.
Beach Body coaching at its finest.
It usually is mlm coaches that post the threads about "not everything on the market is snake oil " so I wouldn't be at all shocked if this was the same .. But clearly her attempt at marketing snake oil isn't going to be fruitful here ....0
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