Struggling to hit protein goal

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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    Shoot for 350g protein bro, myfitness forums is the worst possible place to ask these sort of questions

    Maybe you should spend some time doing some more research. If you like articles:

    This one is from your bros at bb.com

    http://rippedbody.jp/nutritional-hierarchy-importance-macros-fibre-alcohol/


    Or if you want some studies, this thread can be beneficial.

    This is where the problem sits, people read too much *kitten* online, you need to try tactics yourself and see how your body takes, not taking info from prople who havent a clue what theyre talking about

    while a lot of this does have a substantial amount of trial and error- I mean bulking is pretty self explanitory- if you aren't gaining- you aren't eating enough, but the research and experience of others is an easy guide to get you started in the right direction and use self guided experience for the rest of it.

    There is absolutely NO need to eat that much protein. ESPECIALLY while bulking!

    And how do you have any possible clue if we know what we are talking about? why should OP believe you're outlandish claims any more than the rest of us- who have been here and have been showing proof for years on this particular site?

    I had a very successful 5 month bulk- 20 pounds- 160 up to 182- successfully have cut the weight and maintained decent size.

    I mean I'm only a girl- so I realize i only know but SO much- but I bulked from size 6 to a 14 and now I weight the same and i'm a 10- so I had a least one successful go round.

    You have literally offered NO thoughtful advice- I'm pretty sure at this point you're just a troll.
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    Shoot for 350g protein bro, myfitness forums is the worst possible place to ask these sort of questions

    Maybe you should spend some time doing some more research. If you like articles:

    This one is from your bros at bb.com

    http://rippedbody.jp/nutritional-hierarchy-importance-macros-fibre-alcohol/


    Or if you want some studies, this thread can be beneficial.

    This is where the problem sits, people read too much *kitten* online, you need to try tactics yourself and see how your body takes, not taking info from prople who havent a clue what theyre talking about

    Carbs are king for bulking, not protein, as long as you get adequate protein (0.8 grams per lb of lean body mass is enough).

    Protein is more important during a cut than it is in a bulk in order to retain lean mass.
  • sadiebrawl
    sadiebrawl Posts: 863 Member
    When I read threads like this I feel as though I know nothing John Snow.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    sadiebrawl wrote: »
    When I read threads like this I feel as though I know nothing John Snow.

    winter is coming.

    so you should bulk.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    sadiebrawl wrote: »
    When I read threads like this I feel as though I know nothing John Snow.

    winter is coming.

    so you should bulk.

    cosign
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    I'm actually pumped- I think I'm going to go for it after my race- I am scheduling a powerlifting meet for April with the gym team.

    Might as well get good and f*cking fluffy for that :D
  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
    edited August 2015
    richln wrote: »
    That is almost enough protein for two of you.

    More like three of him.

    210 lbs. x 0.60-0.80 grams protein per 1 lb. bodyweight = 126-168 grams protein per day for a target range.

    At that 210 lbs, your muscles will not be able to utilize more protein than 168 grams for new muscle synthesis purposes.

    My daily macros look like this
    Calories: 3600
    Protein 40% 360g
    Carbs 45% 400g
    Fat 15% 60g

    First and foremost, you are undereating dietary fat.

    Also, just because you have a high calorie goal doesn't mean you have to adhere to MFP's percentage breakdown. Go by grams. They are more accurate and you won't be spending a fortune on protein (the most expensive macro to buy in the supermarket).

    That said, at 210 lbs. your ratio (while paying attention to the grams the %'s provide) should be closer to:

    Calories: 3600
    Protein 20-25%
    Carbs 40-45%
    Fat 35-40%

    When bulking, it would be silly not to focus on more dietary fat at 9 calories per gram vs. carb & protein's 4 calories per gram.
  • harryfrankham1
    harryfrankham1 Posts: 34 Member
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros
  • jmule24
    jmule24 Posts: 1,382 Member
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros

    :trollface: your game is weak..... :trollface:

    Go somewhere else...
  • jmule24
    jmule24 Posts: 1,382 Member
    sixxpoint wrote: »
    richln wrote: »
    That is almost enough protein for two of you.

    More like three of him.

    210 lbs. x 0.60-0.80 grams protein per 1 lb. bodyweight = 126-168 grams protein per day for a target range.

    At that 210 lbs, your muscles will not be able to utilize more protein than 168 grams for new muscle synthesis purposes.

    My daily macros look like this
    Calories: 3600
    Protein 40% 360g
    Carbs 45% 400g
    Fat 15% 60g

    First and foremost, you are undereating dietary fat.

    Also, just because you have a high calorie goal doesn't mean you have to adhere to MFP's percentage breakdown. Go by grams. They are more accurate and you won't be spending a fortune on protein (the most expensive macro to buy in the supermarket).

    That said, at 210 lbs. your ratio (while paying attention to the grams the %'s provide) should be closer to:

    Calories: 3600
    Protein 20-25%
    Carbs 40-45%
    Fat 35-40%

    When bulking, it would be silly not to focus on more dietary fat at 9 calories per gram vs. carb & protein's 4 calories per gram.

    ^^^ 100% agree ^^^

    I consume 115-140g of protein daily @ 170lbs BW and still continue to add LBM, as well as, my strength has been increasing too.

    Carbs are near 400g and about 100g of Fat too. Fat helps to keep anabolic hormones at optimal levels.
  • ScottPhillips94
    ScottPhillips94 Posts: 14 Member
    Thanks for that @sixxpoint
    Ok another question then if it's not too much
    Where am I going to get the extra fats from ?
    Healthy fats I mean ? I'm allergic to nuts so that's out ?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Thanks for that @sixxpoint
    Ok another question then if it's not too much
    Where am I going to get the extra fats from ?
    Healthy fats I mean ? I'm allergic to nuts so that's out ?

    no fats are bad for you …shoot for olive oil, avocado, etc.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Thanks for that @sixxpoint
    Ok another question then if it's not too much
    Where am I going to get the extra fats from ?
    Healthy fats I mean ? I'm allergic to nuts so that's out ?

    no fats are bad for you …shoot for olive oil, avocado, etc.

    Except transfats, ha
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros

    open your diary

    <probably not happening but I'm asking anyway>
  • Marilyn0924
    Marilyn0924 Posts: 797 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros

    open your diary

    <probably not happening but I'm asking anyway>

    *snert*
  • harryfrankham1
    harryfrankham1 Posts: 34 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros

    open your diary

    <probably not happening but I'm asking anyway>

    Go ahead...
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    oh snap
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,014 Member
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros
    A waste...
  • mmutluaydin
    mmutluaydin Posts: 53 Member
    I recommend that you take healthy fats from coconut oil (for cooking) or olive oil (on salads or in your shakes) as you say you are allergic to nuts
  • mmutluaydin
    mmutluaydin Posts: 53 Member
    By the way, you are not a lab rat. You don't need to try everything on your body. There is something called science. Those people work for us. If you read some studies, you will find out.
    400 gr of Proteins???? I guess they mean 400 gr of meat.... Or some people think 100 gr of chicken has 100 gr of protein ????
  • harryfrankham1
    harryfrankham1 Posts: 34 Member
    By the way, you are not a lab rat. You don't need to try everything on your body. There is something called science. Those people work for us. If you read some studies, you will find out.
    400 gr of Proteins???? I guess they mean 400 gr of meat.... Or some people think 100 gr of chicken has 100 gr of protein ????

    Im not even going to comment on what youve typed.. Get out of here bro
  • jmule24
    jmule24 Posts: 1,382 Member
    jmule24 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros

    open your diary

    <probably not happening but I'm asking anyway>

    Go ahead...

    Why are you giving 'naturals' un-useful information when it comes to protein consumption? You've made it very clear that you're using anabolics.

    So because im on steroids i cant give advice? Thats what u getting at? My knowledge as come from experimenting with different dieting teqniques to see whats best for my body, you on the other hand, your knowledge is from researching off the net.

    Your 'bro-science' is irrelevant to NATURALS! What don't you understand?

    Please explain to me how your body processes extra protein in the body, I'd love to hear your understanding of it. I honestly would.

    Secondly; yes, my information is scientific, and personal experience based. What "credentials" do I need to have since I choose not to be on gear?

    Go give your advice to others on the gear and have fun with it. I could careless what you choose to put into your body, but I do care about people on gear giving irrelevant information to those who are natural.
  • JoshLibby
    JoshLibby Posts: 214 Member
    edited August 2015
    jmule24 wrote: »
    jmule24 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros

    open your diary

    <probably not happening but I'm asking anyway>

    Go ahead...

    Why are you giving 'naturals' un-useful information when it comes to protein consumption? You've made it very clear that you're using anabolics.

    So because im on steroids i cant give advice? Thats what u getting at? My knowledge as come from experimenting with different dieting teqniques to see whats best for my body, you on the other hand, your knowledge is from researching off the net.

    Your 'bro-science' is irrelevant to NATURALS! What don't you understand?

    Please explain to me how your body processes extra protein in the body, I'd love to hear your understanding of it. I honestly would.

    Secondly; yes, my information is scientific, and personal experience based. What "credentials" do I need to have since I choose not to be on gear?

    Go give your advice to others on the gear and have fun with it. I could careless what you choose to put into your body, but I do care about people on gear giving irrelevant information to those who are natural.

    I am curious on how taking a steroid effects protein intake. That's a new one.
  • jmule24
    jmule24 Posts: 1,382 Member
    JoshLibby wrote: »
    jmule24 wrote: »
    jmule24 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros

    open your diary

    <probably not happening but I'm asking anyway>

    Go ahead...

    Why are you giving 'naturals' un-useful information when it comes to protein consumption? You've made it very clear that you're using anabolics.

    So because im on steroids i cant give advice? Thats what u getting at? My knowledge as come from experimenting with different dieting teqniques to see whats best for my body, you on the other hand, your knowledge is from researching off the net.

    Your 'bro-science' is irrelevant to NATURALS! What don't you understand?

    Please explain to me how your body processes extra protein in the body, I'd love to hear your understanding of it. I honestly would.

    Secondly; yes, my information is scientific, and personal experience based. What "credentials" do I need to have since I choose not to be on gear?

    Go give your advice to others on the gear and have fun with it. I could careless what you choose to put into your body, but I do care about people on gear giving irrelevant information to those who are natural.

    I am curious on how taking a steroid effects protein intake. That's a new one.

    Anabolics increase the rate of protein synthesis.......
  • JoshLibby
    JoshLibby Posts: 214 Member
    edited August 2015
    jmule24 wrote: »
    JoshLibby wrote: »
    jmule24 wrote: »
    jmule24 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros

    open your diary

    <probably not happening but I'm asking anyway>

    Go ahead...

    Why are you giving 'naturals' un-useful information when it comes to protein consumption? You've made it very clear that you're using anabolics.

    So because im on steroids i cant give advice? Thats what u getting at? My knowledge as come from experimenting with different dieting teqniques to see whats best for my body, you on the other hand, your knowledge is from researching off the net.

    Your 'bro-science' is irrelevant to NATURALS! What don't you understand?

    Please explain to me how your body processes extra protein in the body, I'd love to hear your understanding of it. I honestly would.

    Secondly; yes, my information is scientific, and personal experience based. What "credentials" do I need to have since I choose not to be on gear?

    Go give your advice to others on the gear and have fun with it. I could careless what you choose to put into your body, but I do care about people on gear giving irrelevant information to those who are natural.

    I am curious on how taking a steroid effects protein intake. That's a new one.

    Anabolics increase the rate of protein synthesis.......

    Oh really? How much? My understanding of why a steroid work is because it allows you the body to create more growth hormone and because enters the blood stream faster it allows for easier muscle repair. I never knew it allows one to eat more protein.

  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,014 Member
    JoshLibby wrote: »
    News flash steroids now allow you to eat more protein. "sarcasm"
    jmule24 wrote: »
    jmule24 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros

    open your diary

    <probably not happening but I'm asking anyway>

    Go ahead...

    Why are you giving 'naturals' un-useful information when it comes to protein consumption? You've made it very clear that you're using anabolics.

    So because im on steroids i cant give advice? Thats what u getting at? My knowledge as come from experimenting with different dieting teqniques to see whats best for my body, you on the other hand, your knowledge is from researching off the net.

    Your 'bro-science' is irrelevant to NATURALS! What don't you understand?

    Please explain to me how your body processes extra protein in the body, I'd love to hear your understanding of it. I honestly would.

    Secondly; yes, my information is scientific, and personal experience based. What "credentials" do I need to have since I choose not to be on gear?

    Go give your advice to others on the gear and have fun with it. I could careless what you choose to put into your body, but I do care about people on gear giving irrelevant information to those who are natural.

    For how much your going on about me being on the gear is just showing a hint of jealousy.. Srsly mate. My protein intake is going from expierance, not from taking advice from others, who knows your body better than yourself? This is what you need to understand, you cant state to me my protein intake, my carb intake, my fat intake, you dont know how my body works, get gone
    You are not a special snowflake, you don't require that much protein.
  • jmule24
    jmule24 Posts: 1,382 Member
    jmule24 wrote: »
    jmule24 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros

    open your diary

    <probably not happening but I'm asking anyway>

    Go ahead...

    Why are you giving 'naturals' un-useful information when it comes to protein consumption? You've made it very clear that you're using anabolics.

    So because im on steroids i cant give advice? Thats what u getting at? My knowledge as come from experimenting with different dieting teqniques to see whats best for my body, you on the other hand, your knowledge is from researching off the net.

    Your 'bro-science' is irrelevant to NATURALS! What don't you understand?

    Please explain to me how your body processes extra protein in the body, I'd love to hear your understanding of it. I honestly would.

    Secondly; yes, my information is scientific, and personal experience based. What "credentials" do I need to have since I choose not to be on gear?

    Go give your advice to others on the gear and have fun with it. I could careless what you choose to put into your body, but I do care about people on gear giving irrelevant information to those who are natural.

    For how much your going on about me being on the gear is just showing a hint of jealousy.. Srsly mate. My protein intake is going from expierance, not from taking advice from others, who knows your body better than yourself? This is what you need to understand, you cant state to me my protein intake, my carb intake, my fat intake, you dont know how my body works, get gone

    So you can't answer my questions? Ok, then you shouldn't be giving advice in my opinion.

    I choose NOT to use steroids, so no, I'm not jealous.
  • jmule24
    jmule24 Posts: 1,382 Member
    JoshLibby wrote: »
    jmule24 wrote: »
    JoshLibby wrote: »
    jmule24 wrote: »
    jmule24 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros

    open your diary

    <probably not happening but I'm asking anyway>

    Go ahead...

    Why are you giving 'naturals' un-useful information when it comes to protein consumption? You've made it very clear that you're using anabolics.

    So because im on steroids i cant give advice? Thats what u getting at? My knowledge as come from experimenting with different dieting teqniques to see whats best for my body, you on the other hand, your knowledge is from researching off the net.

    Your 'bro-science' is irrelevant to NATURALS! What don't you understand?

    Please explain to me how your body processes extra protein in the body, I'd love to hear your understanding of it. I honestly would.

    Secondly; yes, my information is scientific, and personal experience based. What "credentials" do I need to have since I choose not to be on gear?

    Go give your advice to others on the gear and have fun with it. I could careless what you choose to put into your body, but I do care about people on gear giving irrelevant information to those who are natural.

    I am curious on how taking a steroid effects protein intake. That's a new one.

    Anabolics increase the rate of protein synthesis.......

    Oh really? How much? My understanding of why a steroid work is because it allows you the body to create more growth hormone and because enters the blood stream faster it allows for easier muscle repair. I never knew it allows one to eat more protein.

    You may want to research anabolic steroids a bit more, maybe get some pointers from 'harry.'

  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    edited August 2015
    Obvious troll account. A "21" year old who has 45 year old looking skin. Obviously not him. Don't feed the trolls.
  • harryfrankham1
    harryfrankham1 Posts: 34 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    JoshLibby wrote: »
    News flash steroids now allow you to eat more protein. "sarcasm"
    jmule24 wrote: »
    jmule24 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    400g + protein over here, comeatmebros

    open your diary

    <probably not happening but I'm asking anyway>

    Go ahead...

    Why are you giving 'naturals' un-useful information when it comes to protein consumption? You've made it very clear that you're using anabolics.

    So because im on steroids i cant give advice? Thats what u getting at? My knowledge as come from experimenting with different dieting teqniques to see whats best for my body, you on the other hand, your knowledge is from researching off the net.

    Your 'bro-science' is irrelevant to NATURALS! What don't you understand?

    Please explain to me how your body processes extra protein in the body, I'd love to hear your understanding of it. I honestly would.

    Secondly; yes, my information is scientific, and personal experience based. What "credentials" do I need to have since I choose not to be on gear?

    Go give your advice to others on the gear and have fun with it. I could careless what you choose to put into your body, but I do care about people on gear giving irrelevant information to those who are natural.

    For how much your going on about me being on the gear is just showing a hint of jealousy.. Srsly mate. My protein intake is going from expierance, not from taking advice from others, who knows your body better than yourself? This is what you need to understand, you cant state to me my protein intake, my carb intake, my fat intake, you dont know how my body works, get gone
    You are not a special snowflake, you don't require that much protein.

    Now im getting mocked from someone who looks like they weigh 170lbs, im done with this conversation
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