Diet Soda on a diet?
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stevencloser wrote: »
If your body is producing proper amounts of saliva, contact with your teeth should not exceed much more than the time it takes to swallow it down. And that takes generally longer with something you need to chew.niniundlapin wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »maplehouse200 wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »maplehouse200 wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »
Ask your Dentist.
I'm not waiting 2 weeks for an appointment... you can tell me, no?
ph around 3.5.
Acid erosion of your enamel.
Not good for you.
An apple's ph value is around the same.
Tooth decay is not a single-factor disease. Time of exposure, diet choice, bacteria, and genetics all play roles in decay formation (those who've been drinking it constantly without tooth problems, lucky you!). The reason why acidic beverages are usually not suggested is because of the time in contact with teeth- I bet most people who really love them would sip on them for the entire day, but not that many people would take a bite of apple and let it sit there for a few minutes until juice come out, right?
And plus that's another reason why they usually suggest people to swish water around after drinking soda. Since there's no way to make people quit their favorite beverage (or food), this is the only other way to reduce the risk of having more erosions from acid attack at the point when it happens...
That's true! But for those who sip on it for the whole day, it really depends how other factors play in the game. (And hygiene as well)0 -
Diet soda and mio have been HUGE in my 50+ weight loss..I say embrace the 0cal-ness of it0
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »It does not affect weight loss.
Drink your diet soda.
Except it tastes nasty.....shiver.
Them's fightin' words, lady.
(Seriously though, the new formula for Diet Pepsi with the sucralose is pretty nasty imo)
I heard Diet Pepsi was switching to sucralose and was all
I have tended to buy whichever costs less between Diets Coke and Pepsi, but now Pepsi is going to lose my business.
I actually prefer the flavor of aspartame to HCFS. That stuff's just awful
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »It does not affect weight loss.
Drink your diet soda.
Except it tastes nasty.....shiver.
Them's fightin' words, lady.
(Seriously though, the new formula for Diet Pepsi with the sucralose is pretty nasty imo)
I heard Diet Pepsi was switching to sucralose and was all I have tended to buy whichever costs less between Diets Coke and Pepsi, but now Pepsi is going to lose my business.
I actually prefer the flavor of aspartame to HCFS. That stuff's just awful
Pepsi Max seems to still be aspartame, and is zero calorie (supposedly).0 -
danieltsmoke wrote: »Diet soda and mio have been HUGE in my 50+ weight loss..I say embrace the 0cal-ness of it
A 0 cal soda killed my Pa! I'll never hug a can of that stuff.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »
If your body is producing proper amounts of saliva, contact with your teeth should not exceed much more than the time it takes to swallow it down. And that takes generally longer with something you need to chew.niniundlapin wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »maplehouse200 wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »maplehouse200 wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »
Ask your Dentist.
I'm not waiting 2 weeks for an appointment... you can tell me, no?
ph around 3.5.
Acid erosion of your enamel.
Not good for you.
An apple's ph value is around the same.
Tooth decay is not a single-factor disease. Time of exposure, diet choice, bacteria, and genetics all play roles in decay formation (those who've been drinking it constantly without tooth problems, lucky you!). The reason why acidic beverages are usually not suggested is because of the time in contact with teeth- I bet most people who really love them would sip on them for the entire day, but not that many people would take a bite of apple and let it sit there for a few minutes until juice come out, right?
And plus that's another reason why they usually suggest people to swish water around after drinking soda. Since there's no way to make people quit their favorite beverage (or food), this is the only other way to reduce the risk of having more erosions from acid attack at the point when it happens...
And if you drink it through a straw it doesn't have to touch your teeth at all.
Only if the straw goes past your fauces.
But then, that would be similar to intubating yourself with a orogastric tube to have a can of soda.
Seems a bit extreme.0 -
The carbonated drinks cause cellulite is stated by a nutritionist at a very high sports level. I guess I just took her word!0
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midwesterner85 wrote: »So if tooth demineralization starts with a pH level less than 5.5 and diet soda is around 3.5 (actually, that depends on the specific diet soda and many are lower), then OMG, we are all going to lose our teeth.
Except there are a lot of other "healthy" beverages that are in the same category (pH lower than 5.5). Lime juice is far lower than diet soda, as is lemonade, apple juice, and cranberry juice. Let's not forget Lipton Brisk, Nestea, V8, Propel, Snapple Tea for some specific brands.
In fact, acidophilus milk and buttermilk have a pH less than 5.5.
I think I'll take my chances...
Edit: I see the straw point has already been made.
Curses.0 -
I disagree with people who say diet soda is ok. There are recent studies that show diet soda is just as bad as regular soda. I gave up soda and lost almost 9 pounds in a single month with no other diet changes0
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I disagree with people who say diet soda is ok. There are recent studies that show diet soda is just as bad as regular soda. I gave up soda and lost almost 9 pounds in a single month with no other diet changes
Which studies?
Bad in what way?
Did you give up regular or diet soda?
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midwesterner85 wrote: »maplehouse200 wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »
Ask your Dentist.
I drank diet soda for nearly 20 years (and a lot of it each day for that time) and never took very good care of my teeth. My first cavity wasn't until 19 years after drinking diet soda. It's not scientific, but my experience says it doesn't matter.
It isn't good for your teeth no. As a trained dental nurse, no soda is good for your teeth. if you put a baby tooth in a glass of full fat coke overnight, it will have disolved. If you put it in a glass of diet coke, it will take about a month to disolve. Still not good for the teeth but no not as harmful. If you do want to drink it without affecting your teeth fully, only have it with meals. What causes decay is too many acid attacks on your teeth. If you are eating meals and then having sugary/acidic food/drinks inbetween then yes it will cause decay. Just too add a little insight
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midwesterner85 wrote: »maplehouse200 wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »
Ask your Dentist.
I drank diet soda for nearly 20 years (and a lot of it each day for that time) and never took very good care of my teeth. My first cavity wasn't until 19 years after drinking diet soda. It's not scientific, but my experience says it doesn't matter.
It isn't good for your teeth no. As a trained dental nurse, no soda is good for your teeth. if you put a baby tooth in a glass of full fat coke overnight, it will have disolved. If you put it in a glass of diet coke, it will take about a month to disolve. Still not good for the teeth but no not as harmful. If you do want to drink it without affecting your teeth fully, only have it with meals. What causes decay is too many acid attacks on your teeth. If you are eating meals and then having sugary/acidic food/drinks inbetween then yes it will cause decay. Just too add a little insight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ANWDrRd-IQ 0 -
stevencloser wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »maplehouse200 wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »
Ask your Dentist.
I drank diet soda for nearly 20 years (and a lot of it each day for that time) and never took very good care of my teeth. My first cavity wasn't until 19 years after drinking diet soda. It's not scientific, but my experience says it doesn't matter.
It isn't good for your teeth no. As a trained dental nurse, no soda is good for your teeth. if you put a baby tooth in a glass of full fat coke overnight, it will have disolved. If you put it in a glass of diet coke, it will take about a month to disolve. Still not good for the teeth but no not as harmful. If you do want to drink it without affecting your teeth fully, only have it with meals. What causes decay is too many acid attacks on your teeth. If you are eating meals and then having sugary/acidic food/drinks inbetween then yes it will cause decay. Just too add a little insighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ANWDrRd-IQ
Note how I said 'baby tooth'... That's an adult premolar in that glass of coke... I never mentioned the affect on an adult tooth. Baby teeth aren't as strong so yes a baby tooth would dissolve over night. As we had to do the experiment whilst training at college 0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »
There are some researches and concerns about artificial sweeteners might induce similar mechanisms that cause sugar craving. It's still an ongoing research topic for more insights and facts, but not a bad way to think about the things that go down your throat.
Here's one to read... It's a collection review for other researches in similar topics. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »maplehouse200 wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »
Ask your Dentist.
I drank diet soda for nearly 20 years (and a lot of it each day for that time) and never took very good care of my teeth. My first cavity wasn't until 19 years after drinking diet soda. It's not scientific, but my experience says it doesn't matter.
It isn't good for your teeth no. As a trained dental nurse, no soda is good for your teeth. if you put a baby tooth in a glass of full fat coke overnight, it will have disolved. If you put it in a glass of diet coke, it will take about a month to disolve. Still not good for the teeth but no not as harmful. If you do want to drink it without affecting your teeth fully, only have it with meals. What causes decay is too many acid attacks on your teeth. If you are eating meals and then having sugary/acidic food/drinks inbetween then yes it will cause decay. Just too add a little insight
I don't think anybody actually said that diet soda is GOOD for teeth, just that the negative effect is greatly exaggerated and is really not different than many other beverages that are promoted as "healthy."
Then you mentioned "sugary" drinks and lumped sugary and acidic drinks together when the topic is specifically about diet soda, which is sugar free.
Finally, you argue, "If you put it in a glass of diet coke, it will take about a month to disolve." (sic) So if I have baby teeth and hold diet coke in my mouth for a month, then my teeth will have dissolved? I'm not sure I'm capable of holding soda in my mouth in a way that immerses my teeth for that long, so it seems like a moot point to me.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »maplehouse200 wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »
Ask your Dentist.
I drank diet soda for nearly 20 years (and a lot of it each day for that time) and never took very good care of my teeth. My first cavity wasn't until 19 years after drinking diet soda. It's not scientific, but my experience says it doesn't matter.
It isn't good for your teeth no. As a trained dental nurse, no soda is good for your teeth. if you put a baby tooth in a glass of full fat coke overnight, it will have disolved. If you put it in a glass of diet coke, it will take about a month to disolve. Still not good for the teeth but no not as harmful. If you do want to drink it without affecting your teeth fully, only have it with meals. What causes decay is too many acid attacks on your teeth. If you are eating meals and then having sugary/acidic food/drinks inbetween then yes it will cause decay. Just too add a little insight
I don't think anybody actually said that diet soda is GOOD for teeth, just that the negative effect is greatly exaggerated and is really not different than many other beverages that are promoted as "healthy."
Then you mentioned "sugary" drinks and lumped sugary and acidic drinks together when the topic is specifically about diet soda, which is sugar free.
Finally, you argue, "If you put it in a glass of diet coke, it will take about a month to disolve." (sic) So if I have baby teeth and hold diet coke in my mouth for a month, then my teeth will have dissolved? I'm not sure I'm capable of holding soda in my mouth in a way that immerses my teeth for that long, so it seems like a moot point to me.
Someone posted 'ask your dentist' about the affects it has on teeth. I'm just pointing that out. I'm not saying hold it in your mouth for a month, that's just rediculous (Also creepy if you were to hold a baby tooth in your mouth for some reason) But I was pointing out the affects long term that it has on your teeth. Fruit juice is exactly the same. I drink both diet coke and fruit juice now and again, I just ensure to brush my teeth afterwards. Not arguing with anyone, just knowledge. Yes I did point out sugary or acidic - diet coke is also acidic. Anything sugary/acidic, such as fizzy drinks, sweets, chocolate, fruit etc is all acidic and will have an effect on teeth if eaten too often, fact! How it is on weight loss is not something I have any knowledge on so that's why I didn't point that out. 0 -
I don't think a baby tooth would dissolve in a night either. But I couldn't find a youtube video where someone said it's a baby tooth they're putting in.stevencloser wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »maplehouse200 wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »
Ask your Dentist.
I drank diet soda for nearly 20 years (and a lot of it each day for that time) and never took very good care of my teeth. My first cavity wasn't until 19 years after drinking diet soda. It's not scientific, but my experience says it doesn't matter.
It isn't good for your teeth no. As a trained dental nurse, no soda is good for your teeth. if you put a baby tooth in a glass of full fat coke overnight, it will have disolved. If you put it in a glass of diet coke, it will take about a month to disolve. Still not good for the teeth but no not as harmful. If you do want to drink it without affecting your teeth fully, only have it with meals. What causes decay is too many acid attacks on your teeth. If you are eating meals and then having sugary/acidic food/drinks inbetween then yes it will cause decay. Just too add a little insighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ANWDrRd-IQ
Note how I said 'baby tooth'... That's an adult premolar in that glass of coke... I never mentioned the affect on an adult tooth. Baby teeth aren't as strong so yes a baby tooth would dissolve over night. As we had to do the experiment whilst training at college
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I JUST started drinking diet soda and I'm excited about it. I always thought it was nasty. Now I get my diet Dr. Pepper and A&W root beer on. I pre-log all my food and a nice diet soda to get me through some hungry gaps has been awesome.0
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'just that the negative effect is greatly exaggerated'
I look forward to the updated advice from the BDHF, and the GDC's 'best practice' information in the next copy of the BDJ, in light of your insight and 'knowledge'.0 -
Or JADA...0
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