Diet Soda on a diet?
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carmenfalcon97 wrote: »There are a lot of reasons why. No one mentioned that artificial sweeteners trigger insulin which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain, in a lot of ways it confuses the body. If the weight loss thing doesn't convince you how about drinking one diet soda a day can cause an increase in high blood pressure elevated glucose levels high cholesterol (bad cholesterol) and increase chance of getting a stroke heart disease and diabetes. When you drink diet soda yeah you're not drinking anything with calories but you're also not filing your body up with anything good.
1. Your body does not react to diet soda like regular soda. I am a type one diabetic, and if this were happening without my knowledge, I can assure you I would be dead with the massive amounts of diet soda I consume. *ETA* Someone else already mentioned also that those who are not T1 would quite possibly be dropping like flies due to low blood sugar.
2. "Fat storage mode" - you cannot store fat if you are not consuming a surplus of calories.
These are not opinions. You are just wrong. People are not getting defensive, they are correcting you. You can onto a thread and posted wildly incorrect information. No amount of "lol do what u want guys" will make you right.0 -
So if diet soda is going to trigger my insulin response (and I'm a Type II diabetic), wouldn't I see some evidence of that when using my glucose meter? But I don't ever see any evidence of this happening at all.
For the OP--I drink diet soda, and sparingly. I use it as my treat after I've gotten my water in for the day. I enjoy it very much, especially diet A&W.0 -
I'm sort of a Puritan. Regular soda is full of sugar, and we don't need that much sugar; diet soda is full of chemicals & we don't need chemicals either! I would say ONE 8oz or maybe 12oz serving of a diet soda a day should be more than enough! Drink fizzy water after you've had your serving. I had a cup last night and thoroughly enjoyed it... 5 or 6 cups? Gross!!0
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I'm sort of a Puritan. Regular soda is full of sugar, and we don't need that much sugar; diet soda is full of chemicals & we don't need chemicals either! I would say ONE 8oz or maybe 12oz serving of a diet soda a day should be more than enough! Drink fizzy water after you've had your serving. I had a cup last night and thoroughly enjoyed it... 5 or 6 cups? Gross!!
1. Avoiding everything we don't NEED is a pretty austere way to go through life. If someone choose to live like a Puritan, I guess that's their choice. But why adopt this style of life if it doesn't appeal? Even Puritans had recreational activities, foods they enjoyed, etc.
2. Even fizzy water has chemicals. We can't avoid chemicals even if we try.0 -
I'm sort of a Puritan. Regular soda is full of sugar, and we don't need that much sugar; diet soda is full of chemicals & we don't need chemicals either! I would say ONE 8oz or maybe 12oz serving of a diet soda a day should be more than enough! Drink fizzy water after you've had your serving. I had a cup last night and thoroughly enjoyed it... 5 or 6 cups? Gross!!
There is fairly little we need. A minimum amount of protein and fat, some micronutrients. You could get that by drinking a small glass of oil together with eating some raw beef and veggies (cooking is not needed). Then you've had all the nutrients your body needs but you're still 1000 calories under your goal and realize this is stupid.0 -
I'm sort of a Puritan. Regular soda is full of sugar, and we don't need that much sugar; diet soda is full of chemicals & we don't need chemicals either! I would say ONE 8oz or maybe 12oz serving of a diet soda a day should be more than enough! Drink fizzy water after you've had your serving. I had a cup last night and thoroughly enjoyed it... 5 or 6 cups? Gross!!
I don't think I could live with that type of mentality but to each her own. There are lots of things I don't need like a smart phone and electricity. I prefer to have them in my life. And everything has chemicals; everything IS chemicals. Water is made from two hydrogen atoms and an oxygen atom. Just because something is a chemical, it's not necessarily bad for you. It's almost like saying "Don't eat anything a 5 year old can't pronounce." Ever hear 5 year olds try to say "spaghetti"?0 -
niniundlapin wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
There are some researches and concerns about artificial sweeteners might induce similar mechanisms that cause sugar craving. It's still an ongoing research topic for more insights and facts, but not a bad way to think about the things that go down your throat.
Here's one to read... It's a collection review for other researches in similar topics. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
Again, for the diet soda and artificial sweeteners...
(I actually posted this on page 3... guess no one wants to read...)
It won't raise your blood sugar like natural sugar does, but it might trigger partial activation of sugar craving pathway (also a different one from natural sugar) in your brain that will very likely lead to more calorie intake in the future.0 -
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I'm sort of a Puritan. Regular soda is full of sugar, and we don't need that much sugar; diet soda is full of chemicals & we don't need chemicals either! I would say ONE 8oz or maybe 12oz serving of a diet soda a day should be more than enough! Drink fizzy water after you've had your serving. I had a cup last night and thoroughly enjoyed it... 5 or 6 cups? Gross!!
Lol, we don't need chemicals?
Water is a chemical. Food is made of chemicals. Everything is chemicals.
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OneHundredToLose wrote: »I'm sort of a Puritan. Regular soda is full of sugar, and we don't need that much sugar; diet soda is full of chemicals & we don't need chemicals either! I would say ONE 8oz or maybe 12oz serving of a diet soda a day should be more than enough! Drink fizzy water after you've had your serving. I had a cup last night and thoroughly enjoyed it... 5 or 6 cups? Gross!!
Lol, we don't need chemicals?
Water is a chemical. Food is made of chemicals. Everything is chemicals.
Water might be a chemical, but what about fizzy water? Huh, smart guy?0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »OneHundredToLose wrote: »I'm sort of a Puritan. Regular soda is full of sugar, and we don't need that much sugar; diet soda is full of chemicals & we don't need chemicals either! I would say ONE 8oz or maybe 12oz serving of a diet soda a day should be more than enough! Drink fizzy water after you've had your serving. I had a cup last night and thoroughly enjoyed it... 5 or 6 cups? Gross!!
Lol, we don't need chemicals?
Water is a chemical. Food is made of chemicals. Everything is chemicals.
Water might be a chemical, but what about fizzy water? Huh, smart guy?
Oh darn, I forgot about that. As soon as you add "fizzy" to something, it actually becomes radioactive instantly.0 -
niniundlapin wrote: »niniundlapin wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
There are some researches and concerns about artificial sweeteners might induce similar mechanisms that cause sugar craving. It's still an ongoing research topic for more insights and facts, but not a bad way to think about the things that go down your throat.
Here's one to read... It's a collection review for other researches in similar topics. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
Again, for the diet soda and artificial sweeteners...
(I actually posted this on page 3... guess no one wants to read...)
It won't raise your blood sugar like natural sugar does, but it might trigger partial activation of sugar craving pathway (also a different one from natural sugar) in your brain that will very likely lead to more calorie intake in the future.
Sorry I know you posted this earlier in response to one of my questions, and to be honest, I haven't had time to read the link you provided. I will, but probably later.
I did want to quickly respond and say that I've been drinking Diet Coke for 20+ years and can say emphatically that it doesn't induce sugar cravings in me. If anything, when I drink a diet coke, I'm more likely to want to eat some chips, popcorn, or something fried and salty, as I tend to have a Diet Coke in the middle of the afternoon and often accompanied by a snack from the vending machine or our break room.
As I said earlier, I drank Diet Coke when I was gaining weight, because I was eating too many calories, not because the Diet Coke made me want to eat too many calories. I also drank Diet Coke when I was losing 30 lbs in the last couple of years since joining MFP, with no challenges in adhering to a calorie deficit. I now drink Diet Coke while I'm maintaining my weight. Pretty much the only time in my life I didn't drink Diet Coke was when I was living at home as a child/adolescent because my mother couldn't stand the taste of it so I never knew to try it. Even during my pregnancies I would have Diet Coke (sometimes caffeinated, sometimes decaf). It's just not something that has created these supposed ill effects in me. I know I'm an N=1 data point, but since everyone else gets to post anecdotal evidence, sometimes I like to as well...
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tincanonastring wrote: »OneHundredToLose wrote: »I'm sort of a Puritan. Regular soda is full of sugar, and we don't need that much sugar; diet soda is full of chemicals & we don't need chemicals either! I would say ONE 8oz or maybe 12oz serving of a diet soda a day should be more than enough! Drink fizzy water after you've had your serving. I had a cup last night and thoroughly enjoyed it... 5 or 6 cups? Gross!!
Lol, we don't need chemicals?
Water is a chemical. Food is made of chemicals. Everything is chemicals.
Water might be a chemical, but what about fizzy water? Huh, smart guy?
What if you put sodium bicarbonate in water, huh? That's like, ALL THE TOXIC CHEMICALS....0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »OneHundredToLose wrote: »I'm sort of a Puritan. Regular soda is full of sugar, and we don't need that much sugar; diet soda is full of chemicals & we don't need chemicals either! I would say ONE 8oz or maybe 12oz serving of a diet soda a day should be more than enough! Drink fizzy water after you've had your serving. I had a cup last night and thoroughly enjoyed it... 5 or 6 cups? Gross!!
Lol, we don't need chemicals?
Water is a chemical. Food is made of chemicals. Everything is chemicals.
Water might be a chemical, but what about fizzy water? Huh, smart guy?
What if you put sodium bicarbonate in water, huh? That's like, ALL THE TOXIC CHEMICALS....
Those fireworks are actually what happens to your brain cells when you believe in derp drink diet soda.0 -
Well, I haven't restricted my consumption of artificial sweeteners at all, and I'm still a savory girl. I never forget to eat all my vegetables but sometimes the fruit returns home uneaten.0
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WinoGelato wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »OneHundredToLose wrote: »I'm sort of a Puritan. Regular soda is full of sugar, and we don't need that much sugar; diet soda is full of chemicals & we don't need chemicals either! I would say ONE 8oz or maybe 12oz serving of a diet soda a day should be more than enough! Drink fizzy water after you've had your serving. I had a cup last night and thoroughly enjoyed it... 5 or 6 cups? Gross!!
Lol, we don't need chemicals?
Water is a chemical. Food is made of chemicals. Everything is chemicals.
Water might be a chemical, but what about fizzy water? Huh, smart guy?
What if you put sodium bicarbonate in water, huh? That's like, ALL THE TOXIC CHEMICALS....
I think that only makes chicken toxic, no effect on water.0 -
The real chemical you have to worry about in diet soda is all the dihydrogen monoxide. DHMO is a dangerous chemical - it's colorless, odorless, and has been known to kill many humans.0
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meganridenour wrote: »This thread made me want a diet coke. So I got one. MMMMM...
i read that as diet coke cake. mmm cake0 -
Interesting data that comes out of Epidemiological surveys finds that artificially sweetened soda is a risk factor for diabetes. I'm pretty sure it is not the sweetener itself.
Why is anyone's guess, so I will just share my suspicion: for many people part of excess calorie consumption is getting used to (acclimated to ? addicted to ?) high fat, sweet food. Artificially sweetened soda continues this negative lifestyle behavior.0 -
Google Diet Coke and read for yourself. I used to drink it but have given it up except for once in a great while. Now I enjoy my water but it took awhile because of the addiction. From what I have read there are more reasons not to drink it than just teeth enamel.0
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Janice4945 wrote: »Google Diet Coke and read for yourself. I used to drink it but have given it up except for once in a great while. Now I enjoy my water but it took awhile because of the addiction. From what I have read there are more reasons not to drink it than just teeth enamel.
Oh, here we go
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Janice4945 wrote: »Google Diet Coke and read for yourself. I used to drink it but have given it up except for once in a great while. Now I enjoy my water but it took awhile because of the addiction. From what I have read there are more reasons not to drink it than just teeth enamel.
Googled, got the diet coke website:
http://www.dietcoke.com/content/dko-2015/en/home.html
Makes me want one. Yum.0 -
Google Animal Rights and read for yourself. Top ten hits, I dare you.0
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Janice4945 wrote: »Google Diet Coke and read for yourself. I used to drink it but have given it up except for once in a great while. Now I enjoy my water but it took awhile because of the addiction. From what I have read there are more reasons not to drink it than just teeth enamel.
Which rehab did you attend to treat your soda addiction? Was it an in-patient facility? How bad was the physical pain during the detox? Inquiring minds want to know.0 -
OneHundredToLose wrote: »The real chemical you have to worry about in diet soda is all the dihydrogen monoxide. DHMO is a dangerous chemical - it's colorless, odorless, and has been known to kill many humans.
So is arsenic and God put that in apple seeds, peach, apricot and cherry pits.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »OneHundredToLose wrote: »The real chemical you have to worry about in diet soda is all the dihydrogen monoxide. DHMO is a dangerous chemical - it's colorless, odorless, and has been known to kill many humans.
So is arsenic and God put that in apple seeds, peach, apricot and cherry pits.
They're even anorganic, that can't be good. I only eat organic poisons.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »OneHundredToLose wrote: »The real chemical you have to worry about in diet soda is all the dihydrogen monoxide. DHMO is a dangerous chemical - it's colorless, odorless, and has been known to kill many humans.
So is arsenic and God put that in apple seeds, peach, apricot and cherry pits.
100% of the people who have consumed DHMO have died, or will die. It's dangerous stuff.0 -
OneHundredToLose wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »OneHundredToLose wrote: »The real chemical you have to worry about in diet soda is all the dihydrogen monoxide. DHMO is a dangerous chemical - it's colorless, odorless, and has been known to kill many humans.
So is arsenic and God put that in apple seeds, peach, apricot and cherry pits.
100% of the people who have consumed DHMO have died, or will die. It's dangerous stuff.
I've been told that just breathing that stuff in for 5 minutes can kill you!0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »OneHundredToLose wrote: »I'm sort of a Puritan. Regular soda is full of sugar, and we don't need that much sugar; diet soda is full of chemicals & we don't need chemicals either! I would say ONE 8oz or maybe 12oz serving of a diet soda a day should be more than enough! Drink fizzy water after you've had your serving. I had a cup last night and thoroughly enjoyed it... 5 or 6 cups? Gross!!
Lol, we don't need chemicals?
Water is a chemical. Food is made of chemicals. Everything is chemicals.
Water might be a chemical, but what about fizzy water? Huh, smart guy?
What if you put sodium bicarbonate in water, huh? That's like, ALL THE TOXIC CHEMICALS....
I think that only makes chicken toxic, no effect on water.
I tried putting it in vinegar one time. It was like a volcano was erupting. Don't mess around with that sodium bicarbonate man....
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WinoGelato wrote: »niniundlapin wrote: »niniundlapin wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
There are some researches and concerns about artificial sweeteners might induce similar mechanisms that cause sugar craving. It's still an ongoing research topic for more insights and facts, but not a bad way to think about the things that go down your throat.
Here's one to read... It's a collection review for other researches in similar topics. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
Again, for the diet soda and artificial sweeteners...
(I actually posted this on page 3... guess no one wants to read...)
It won't raise your blood sugar like natural sugar does, but it might trigger partial activation of sugar craving pathway (also a different one from natural sugar) in your brain that will very likely lead to more calorie intake in the future.
Sorry I know you posted this earlier in response to one of my questions, and to be honest, I haven't had time to read the link you provided. I will, but probably later.
I did want to quickly respond and say that I've been drinking Diet Coke for 20+ years and can say emphatically that it doesn't induce sugar cravings in me. If anything, when I drink a diet coke, I'm more likely to want to eat some chips, popcorn, or something fried and salty, as I tend to have a Diet Coke in the middle of the afternoon and often accompanied by a snack from the vending machine or our break room.
As I said earlier, I drank Diet Coke when I was gaining weight, because I was eating too many calories, not because the Diet Coke made me want to eat too many calories. I also drank Diet Coke when I was losing 30 lbs in the last couple of years since joining MFP, with no challenges in adhering to a calorie deficit. I now drink Diet Coke while I'm maintaining my weight. Pretty much the only time in my life I didn't drink Diet Coke was when I was living at home as a child/adolescent because my mother couldn't stand the taste of it so I never knew to try it. Even during my pregnancies I would have Diet Coke (sometimes caffeinated, sometimes decaf). It's just not something that has created these supposed ill effects in me. I know I'm an N=1 data point, but since everyone else gets to post anecdotal evidence, sometimes I like to as well...
Thanks! Really appreciate your sharing
Yeah... I think anything like this info is really for reference, I mean, not everyone will develop the same reaction after consuming the same product, and not same amount of same product will induce the same reaction. I guess if this thread is about Lay's, I'd post my experience as well (I like kettle cooked, btw).
It's good that we found the right portion of food that our bodies can metabolize in combination with proper exercising to achieve purpose of weight-loss, just that there are also researches out there trying very hard to show people their concerns about things we consume. (I've seen an analog between cigarette and sugar additives, saying that sugary products would likely to be the next to be labeled with warning signs like cigarette.)
I'd say it's nice to have a second thought about things that'll go down into our system. Of course, over-thinking can lead to chaotic situations and human body is really complicated... No one can say for sure what will happen, and modern technology can only show us this much...0
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