Diet Soda on a diet?

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  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
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    "Aspartame is one of the most exhaustively studied substances in the human food supply, with more than 100 studies supporting its safety."

    http://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/FoodAdditivesIngredients/ucm397725.htm
  • TNoire
    TNoire Posts: 642 Member
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    Here ya go!

    http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/jan03/012203/02p-0317_emc-000199.txt
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
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    That's a docket.
  • louise5779
    louise5779 Posts: 82 Member
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    ManiacalLaugh wrote: »
    louise5779 wrote: »
    ManiacalLaugh wrote: »
    louise5779 wrote: »
    The carbonated drinks cause cellulite is stated by a nutritionist at a very high sports level. I guess I just took her word!

    Well, nutritionists don't have "levels", so that is a little curious. But this is why "nutritionists" shouldn't be given the time of day. They have so little training, their only certification comes from a two to twelve week course, and many of them jump on the latest trends and rumors and then regurgitate them to their clients as truth for money. (See another thread where a poster was told by her nutritionist to go on an extreme Keto diet to lose weight she doesn't need to lose in the first place.)

    Always go for "dieticians" - and always ask about a degree from an accredited college. I wouldn't hire anyone without at least a bachelor's degree (4 years) in the field.

    Carbonation doesn't cause cellulite. If the nutritionist said "high-calorie carbonated drinks in excess" then he/she would've been closer to the mark - but it's all about the calories and amount consumed.

    I meant high level by her employment she works for a team at that's at the highest level in its field through out the world. Find it hard to believe that she would be employed by them if she didn't have creditendial or know what she was taking about.

    "Highest level," says... who or what? Is there an unbiased accredited agency who rates them, and if so, who is it and who granted their accreditation? Once again, nutritionists/dieticians don't have levels. This term makes no sense in this particular field and if that's a term they use for themselves, then that's very suspect. If that's a misunderstanding of a term you're ascribing to them, then by all means, please clarify. I would like to know.

    And yes, if she refers to herself as a "nutritionist" and not a "dietician" she does not have proper credentials. It may seem like semantics, but those two terms are very different.

    ETA: If she actually believes carbonation - as in CO2 by itself can create body fat, then no - that's evidence enough for me that she doesn't know what she's talking about. That's a ridiculous

    I don't know her or haven't met her. She was on a TV programme giving advice about diets. She didn't describe her self as being at a high level but I amused anyone working for the Dellas Cowboys as an nutritionist would be considered as knowing what they are taking about.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    jgnatca wrote: »
    That's a docket.

    Which is almost 15 years old, and most sources nearly 20+
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    louise5779 wrote: »
    ManiacalLaugh wrote: »
    louise5779 wrote: »
    The carbonated drinks cause cellulite is stated by a nutritionist at a very high sports level. I guess I just took her word!

    Well, nutritionists don't have "levels", so that is a little curious. But this is why "nutritionists" shouldn't be given the time of day. They have so little training, their only certification comes from a two to twelve week course, and many of them jump on the latest trends and rumors and then regurgitate them to their clients as truth for money. (See another thread where a poster was told by her nutritionist to go on an extreme Keto diet to lose weight she doesn't need to lose in the first place.)

    Always go for "dieticians" - and always ask about a degree from an accredited college. I wouldn't hire anyone without at least a bachelor's degree (4 years) in the field.

    Carbonation doesn't cause cellulite. If the nutritionist said "high-calorie carbonated drinks in excess" then he/she would've been closer to the mark - but it's all about the calories and amount consumed.

    I meant high level by her employment she works for a team at that's at the highest level in its field through out the world. Find it hard to believe that she would be employed by them if she didn't have creditendial or know what she was taking about.

    Well, to be fair, she did tell you soda bubbles cause cellulite.
  • ManiacalLaugh
    ManiacalLaugh Posts: 1,048 Member
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    louise5779 wrote: »

    I don't know her or haven't met her. She was on a TV programme giving advice about diets. She didn't describe her self as being at a high level but I amused anyone working for the Dellas Cowboys as an nutritionist would be considered as knowing what they are taking about.

    Well, if she listed her credentials on TV, then she must be completely qualified. Just look at the integrity of Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil.

    I am glad to see then that it means you're not paying this person. Because if you were, I'd be recommending getting your money back.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
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    The docket is a submission from an interested party to the FDA. That submission, twenty years ago, did not alter the FDA's opinion of aspartame to this day.

    I can hear the bureaucratic sigh inserted in, "one of the most exhaustively studied substances in the human food supply". As in, they are darned tired of deterring the urban legend. Which refuses to die, die, die.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 8,995 Member
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    TNoire wrote: »
    aspartame = poison

    It's proven in many studies as well as all of these (see pic below), i seen the hair loss happen to a friend of mine, tho he also drinks 24+ cans of diet a day, google 51 things you can do with coke, its gross

    I don't think anyone is recommending drinking 24+ cans per day - that is not a sensible or moderation amount.

    These 51 things you Can do with coke - are they diet coke ( the topic of the thread) or any coke? Also do they include things like cleaning the toilet which you can also do with lemon juice ( or anything acidic) or even plain water?
    I f so, relevance to ingesting them is pretty irelevant.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
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    Consider all the things you can do with vinegar, including washing the windows. And preparing a nummy salad.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
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    RGv2 wrote: »
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    You are so condescening ;)
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    queenliz99 wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
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    You are so condescening ;)

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    I'm feisty today, and really wanted to use that gif.
  • momoharuno
    momoharuno Posts: 141 Member
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    maidentl wrote: »
    TNoire wrote: »
    aspartame = poison

    It's proven in many studies as well as all of these (see pic below), i seen the hair loss happen to a friend of mine, tho he also drinks 24+ cans of diet a day, google 51 things you can do with coke, its gross........

    296a7e56819db4dd186addef102bf642.gif


    +1
    how many times can I link to studies and threads with scientific reasoning before I throw my hands up and yell "Fine! Science is wrong! We're all wrong! You're right I will only eat grass and distilled water that I get from my lawn and rain barrels! Everything is bad and will kill me and life has no meaning! I give up!"
    Or I guess I can just shake my head at ignorance and carry on, either or really lol :D
  • cerise_noir
    cerise_noir Posts: 5,468 Member
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    maidentl wrote: »
    TNoire wrote: »
    aspartame = poison

    It's proven in many studies as well as all of these (see pic below), i seen the hair loss happen to a friend of mine, tho he also drinks 24+ cans of diet a day, google 51 things you can do with coke, its gross........

    296a7e56819db4dd186addef102bf642.gif

    Ah, the Dean Winchester facepalm.
  • tincanonastring
    tincanonastring Posts: 3,944 Member
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    momoharuno wrote: »
    maidentl wrote: »
    TNoire wrote: »
    aspartame = poison

    It's proven in many studies as well as all of these (see pic below), i seen the hair loss happen to a friend of mine, tho he also drinks 24+ cans of diet a day, google 51 things you can do with coke, its gross........

    296a7e56819db4dd186addef102bf642.gif


    +1
    how many times can I link to studies and threads with scientific reasoning before I throw my hands up and yell "Fine! Science is wrong! We're all wrong! You're right I will only eat grass and distilled water that I get from my lawn and rain barrels! Everything is bad and will kill me and life has no meaning! I give up!"
    Or I guess I can just shake my head at ignorance and carry on, either or really lol :D

    Perfect.
  • carmenfalcon97
    carmenfalcon97 Posts: 19 Member
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    Diet soda is so bad for you, it's worse than the real stuff! Do some research and hopefully you can let it go completely, try to at least.
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
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    carmenfalcon97 wrote: »
    Diet soda is so bad for you, it's worse than the real stuff! Do some research and hopefully you can let it go completely, try to at least.

    Did you read ANY of this thread?
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
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    carmenfalcon97 wrote: »
    Diet soda is so bad for you, it's worse than the real stuff! Do some research and hopefully you can let it go completely, try to at least.

    How is diet soda bad for you? Plz 'splain, Lucy :#
  • carmenfalcon97
    carmenfalcon97 Posts: 19 Member
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    There are a lot of reasons why. No one mentioned that artificial sweeteners trigger insulin which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain, in a lot of ways it confuses the body. If the weight loss thing doesn't convince you how about drinking one diet soda a day can cause an increase in high blood pressure elevated glucose levels high cholesterol (bad cholesterol) and increase chance of getting a stroke heart disease and diabetes. When you drink diet soda yeah you're not drinking anything with calories but you're also not filing your body up with anything good.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
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    carmenfalcon97 wrote: »
    There are a lot of reasons why. No one mentioned that artificial sweeteners trigger insulin which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain, in a lot of ways it confuses the body. If the weight loss thing doesn't convince you how about drinking one diet soda a day can cause an increase in high blood pressure elevated glucose levels high cholesterol (bad cholesterol) and increase chance of getting a stroke heart disease and diabetes. When you drink diet soda yeah you're not drinking anything with calories but you're also not filing your body up with anything good.

    Then you need to site this source of misinformation.

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