to carb or not too carb?
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Monklady123 wrote: »Personally I feel better when I cut out a lot of simple carbs. (bread, pasta, any wheat flour products, added sugar...) I don't limit vegetable carbs, although some days I probably don't eat enough vegetables because I hate to cook and only like a limited number of veggies raw (I do eat things like celery, zucchini, radishes...things that I can dip in hummus).
@Monklady123 What about the Birds Eye Steamfresh microwave bags of veggies? That's my go-to source for veggies, and I eat probably two bags a day.
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Monklady123 wrote: »Personally I feel better when I cut out a lot of simple carbs. (bread, pasta, any wheat flour products, added sugar...) I don't limit vegetable carbs, although some days I probably don't eat enough vegetables because I hate to cook and only like a limited number of veggies raw (I do eat things like celery, zucchini, radishes...things that I can dip in hummus).
@Monklady123 What about the Birds Eye Steamfresh microwave bags of veggies? That's my go-to source for veggies, and I eat probably two bags a day.
Yes, that's a good idea. I need to look through the frozen section next time I'm at the store. Much easier than cooking from scratch. lol
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I think if you do any sort of physical activity, carbs are fine. Assuming you're not doing over 40% of your total caloric intake. You will most likely start craving more food because of that not-so-full feeling that carbs tend to give you after it's digested.
I used to be low carb; like under 100g a day. Now I just try to stay under 250g. I can enjoy having rice and potatoes every day, and still not feel 'carb loaded'. But I am also very active, and my carbs get used for fuel.
I've done low carb. I've done moderate carb. I've done high carb. Lost weight on all of them.
For me personally, I never found that eating higher carb made me crave more food or left me with a not so full feeling. It's great that you found something that worked for you, but just wanted to state it isn't a universal reaction to all those consume a higher level of carbs.
@shell1005 High carb low fat? Or high carb moderate/high fat? Fat is the key to staying satiated.0 -
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I tried carb cycling for 8 weeks last year. It just made me moody lol. It didn't make me lose weight any faster either (I was losing weight after my 3rd baby. Well, I still am)
I like my fruit, so I don't do low carb, although I limit starchy carbs like bread, pasta, rice, potatoes.0 -
I think if you do any sort of physical activity, carbs are fine. Assuming you're not doing over 40% of your total caloric intake. You will most likely start craving more food because of that not-so-full feeling that carbs tend to give you after it's digested.
I used to be low carb; like under 100g a day. Now I just try to stay under 250g. I can enjoy having rice and potatoes every day, and still not feel 'carb loaded'. But I am also very active, and my carbs get used for fuel.
I've done low carb. I've done moderate carb. I've done high carb. Lost weight on all of them.
For me personally, I never found that eating higher carb made me crave more food or left me with a not so full feeling. It's great that you found something that worked for you, but just wanted to state it isn't a universal reaction to all those consume a higher level of carbs.
@shell1005 High carb low fat? Or high carb moderate/high fat? Fat is the key to staying satiated.
Not for me. Fat is not the key for me....which is what I have been saying. Glad you found what works for you, but I caution people to assume what works for you works for others.
I would actually say the protein is much more important for satiety. Fats don't fill me up.
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Calorie deficit comes first, so whatever you find easiest and sustainable for helping you achieve that. What works for some people might not be the bets match for you.0
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Love me some carbs. I tried low carb a few years ago and it was not sustainable for me. Now, I focus on maintaining a calorie deficit and have never been happier.0
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Barring medical issues it's personal preference.0
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queenliz99 wrote: »High carb because I like beer.
Gotta go with this!
Seriously, though, only you know what's going to work for you. I lost about 110lbs over the course of 16 months, without cutting out any specific food group. So, I never cut carbs, never cut fat, and was just fine doing it.
And yes, in all of that time I enjoyed plenty of beer.0 -
Keto for me. But it's not something you can try out for a few days to decide if you like it, due to low carb flu. So if you decide to try it, you need to commit to it for at least a month and see how you like it. Two weeks to get over any low carb flu symptoms, two weeks to settle in and see how you feel and what your hunger and energy levels are, etc.
In reality, four weeks isn't even the full test. The full test can be six weeks or longer to start adapting as far as your energy levels and workouts.0 -
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The question isn't really Carb or Low Carb, it's which one am I willing to do for the rest of life? (relatively, anyways) Using low carb for a diet doesn't actually help you because you will eventually hit your target goal and stop doing that diet. Now, you haven't changed your eating habits so there's a better than average chance you'll gain the weight back. What you need to do is retrain your brain and body to better eating habits that you will continue once you hit your goal.
With that being said, if you can manage low carb and like it enough to stick with it long term, more power to you. Some people can. I am not one of those. I am way to fond of BUTTERYGARLICKYBREADSTICKS to ever cut those out! xD0 -
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The question isn't really Carb or Low Carb, it's which one am I willing to do for the rest of life? (relatively, anyways) Using low carb for a diet doesn't actually help you because you will eventually hit your target goal and stop doing that diet. Now, you haven't changed your eating habits so there's a better than average chance you'll gain the weight back. What you need to do is retrain your brain and body to better eating habits that you will continue once you hit your goal.
With that being said, if you can manage low carb and like it enough to stick with it long term, more power to you. Some people can. I am not one of those. I am way to fond of BUTTERYGARLICKYBREADSTICKS to ever cut those out! xD
Not true. There are people who have been in ketosis for years. Stephanie Keto Person is my primary motivation. She's 47 (might be 48 now) looks 27, is in incredible shape, and eats low carb. She is also a personal trainer who loves the gym, so I will never be ripped like she is, but maybe I can have the same energy levels she has.
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Keto for me. But it's not something you can try out for a few days to decide if you like it, due to low carb flu. So if you decide to try it, you need to commit to it for at least a month and see how you like it. Two weeks to get over any low carb flu symptoms, two weeks to settle in and see how you feel and what your hunger and energy levels are, etc.
In reality, four weeks isn't even the full test. The full test can be six weeks or longer to start adapting as far as your energy levels and workouts.
That is only true of keto. Low carb does not necessarily mean you have to cut them low enough to be in ketosis. For example, I kept mine under 150 grams a day for a couple of months, then under 100 grams a day for many months. Both of those are considered low carb diets, and I never had any keto flu symptoms since they weren't low enough for ketosis. I got many of the low carb benefits with no problems at all.
Now, I have been in ketosis for a little over a week. And the keto flu in my case is barely noticeable and easily controlled by adding a little salt to my diet.0 -
So is high carb.jennifer_417 wrote: »Unless you have specific health conditions, low carb is totally unnecessary for losing weight.
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MoiAussi93 wrote: »Keto for me. But it's not something you can try out for a few days to decide if you like it, due to low carb flu. So if you decide to try it, you need to commit to it for at least a month and see how you like it. Two weeks to get over any low carb flu symptoms, two weeks to settle in and see how you feel and what your hunger and energy levels are, etc.
In reality, four weeks isn't even the full test. The full test can be six weeks or longer to start adapting as far as your energy levels and workouts.
That is only true of keto. Low carb does not necessarily mean you have to cut them low enough to be in ketosis. For example, I kept mine under 150 grams a day for a couple of months, then under 100 grams a day for many months. Both of those are considered low carb diets, and I never had any keto flu symptoms since they weren't low enough for ketosis. I got many of the low carb benefits with no problems at all.
Now, I have been in ketosis for a little over a week. And the keto flu in my case is barely noticeable and easily controlled by adding a little salt to my diet.
True. Sounds like you've had an easier time because you were already lower carb. And not everyone has bad low carb flu anyway, even if they go straight to the under 20 grams of carbs a day diet. But it sure slaps me down hard. Especially days 4-6!0 -
MoiAussi93 wrote: »
So is high carb.jennifer_417 wrote: »Unless you have specific health conditions, low carb is totally unnecessary for losing weight.
Agreed why restrict your fat intake?
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Low carb for me. No cravings, I rarely feel hungry, I have more energy, etc. But you need to figure out for yourself if it is for you. Nobody else can really tell you that.0
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@Monklady123 What about the Birds Eye Steamfresh microwave bags of veggies? That's my go-to source for veggies, and I eat probably two bags a day.
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Woohoo! So glad you said this ! My fav veggie source too, especially the protein blends. 6 minutes and dinner is ready.0 -
Cutting carbs has changed my life. I was doing a low fat diet and was getting bad cravings. I would have a cheat once a week and end up binging. It got pretty bad, I had such a sweet tooth! I would eat just plain sugar, no lie! But when I cut carbs and ate more fat, the cravings stopped. The fat fills you up and satisfies. It's seriously a miracle for me plus I feel better all around. I have more energy and more focused. I say try it out and see if it works for you. Couldn't hurt!0
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The important question is why are you asking? Are there specific reasons you are thinking about cutting carbs?
For me, I find that when I'm eating well I naturally tend to eat about 40-50% carbs, and since I feel good at that level I see no reason to reduce it.0 -
The question isn't really Carb or Low Carb, it's which one am I willing to do for the rest of life? (relatively, anyways) Using low carb for a diet doesn't actually help you because you will eventually hit your target goal and stop doing that diet. Now, you haven't changed your eating habits so there's a better than average chance you'll gain the weight back. What you need to do is retrain your brain and body to better eating habits that you will continue once you hit your goal.
With that being said, if you can manage low carb and like it enough to stick with it long term, more power to you. Some people can. I am not one of those. I am way to fond of BUTTERYGARLICKYBREADSTICKS to ever cut those out! xD
Not true. There are people who have been in ketosis for years. Stephanie Keto Person is my primary motivation. She's 47 (might be 48 now) looks 27, is in incredible shape, and eats low carb. She is also a personal trainer who loves the gym, so I will never be ripped like she is, but maybe I can have the same energy levels she has.
And she's apparently someone that can do low carb indefinitely. That's fine for her and if it works for you as well, awesome. It's not true for everyone. That's my point. Most of my calories are from protein and carbs because that makes me feel full for longer. I can eat a huge plate of veggies, but I'll be hungry much sooner than if I have a slice of toast with peanut butter that would equal the same amount of calories. I'm not saying everyone should eat more carbs, just that low carb isn't going to be sustainable for a lot of people. You have to pick a way of eating that is sustainable AFTER you hit your goal. Changing your eating habits is the only way that the weight will STAY off after you've lost what you wanted to lose.0 -
The question isn't really Carb or Low Carb, it's which one am I willing to do for the rest of life? (relatively, anyways) Using low carb for a diet doesn't actually help you because you will eventually hit your target goal and stop doing that diet. Now, you haven't changed your eating habits so there's a better than average chance you'll gain the weight back. What you need to do is retrain your brain and body to better eating habits that you will continue once you hit your goal.
With that being said, if you can manage low carb and like it enough to stick with it long term, more power to you. Some people can. I am not one of those. I am way to fond of BUTTERYGARLICKYBREADSTICKS to ever cut those out! xD
Not true. There are people who have been in ketosis for years. Stephanie Keto Person is my primary motivation. She's 47 (might be 48 now) looks 27, is in incredible shape, and eats low carb. She is also a personal trainer who loves the gym, so I will never be ripped like she is, but maybe I can have the same energy levels she has.
And she's apparently someone that can do low carb indefinitely. That's fine for her and if it works for you as well, awesome. It's not true for everyone. That's my point. Most of my calories are from protein and carbs because that makes me feel full for longer. I can eat a huge plate of veggies, but I'll be hungry much sooner than if I have a slice of toast with peanut butter that would equal the same amount of calories. I'm not saying everyone should eat more carbs, just that low carb isn't going to be sustainable for a lot of people. You have to pick a way of eating that is sustainable AFTER you hit your goal. Changing your eating habits is the only way that the weight will STAY off after you've lost what you wanted to lose.
Oh I agree, I don't think any one thing works for everyone. Everyone should find what drives them the least crazy, promotes the highest energy and happiness levels, and keeps them in a good weight range for them.0 -
I couldn't be happy without vegetables, fruit and grains. So, carbs for me.0
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Carbs! 200-300 grams a day for me.0
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There are examples of amazingly fit people who are successful on many different diets. [Edit: sorry, wrote this before I saw that you had acknowledged that.]
I'd love to have the achievements (and fitness level) of Rich Roll, who got into triathlon after turning 40 and since has done some pretty crazy stuff, and looks amazing for a 47-year-old. He attributes his fitness and energy level to his high-carb vegan diet.0 -
tennisdude2004 wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »
So is high carb.jennifer_417 wrote: »Unless you have specific health conditions, low carb is totally unnecessary for losing weight.
Agreed why restrict your fat intake?
For me its because I fill up on starches more easily and more importantly, my lifting is a lot better with carbs than with fat.. then again at 2400 calories, I still get 80-90g of fat... I tend to add more fat when I maintain/bulk.
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The question isn't really Carb or Low Carb, it's which one am I willing to do for the rest of life? (relatively, anyways) Using low carb for a diet doesn't actually help you because you will eventually hit your target goal and stop doing that diet. Now, you haven't changed your eating habits so there's a better than average chance you'll gain the weight back. What you need to do is retrain your brain and body to better eating habits that you will continue once you hit your goal.
With that being said, if you can manage low carb and like it enough to stick with it long term, more power to you. Some people can. I am not one of those. I am way to fond of BUTTERYGARLICKYBREADSTICKS to ever cut those out! xD
Not true. There are people who have been in ketosis for years. Stephanie Keto Person is my primary motivation. She's 47 (might be 48 now) looks 27, is in incredible shape, and eats low carb. She is also a personal trainer who loves the gym, so I will never be ripped like she is, but maybe I can have the same energy levels she has.
And she's apparently someone that can do low carb indefinitely. That's fine for her and if it works for you as well, awesome. It's not true for everyone. That's my point. Most of my calories are from protein and carbs because that makes me feel full for longer. I can eat a huge plate of veggies, but I'll be hungry much sooner than if I have a slice of toast with peanut butter that would equal the same amount of calories. I'm not saying everyone should eat more carbs, just that low carb isn't going to be sustainable for a lot of people. You have to pick a way of eating that is sustainable AFTER you hit your goal. Changing your eating habits is the only way that the weight will STAY off after you've lost what you wanted to lose.
Oh I agree, I don't think any one thing works for everyone. Everyone should find what drives them the least crazy, promotes the highest energy and happiness levels, and keeps them in a good weight range for them.
One thing to keep in mind, there are two major reasons she looks 27... being in shape helps but good genetics play a huge role. I'm 33 and still get carded at bars and liquor stores. My dad didn't have any grey hair until 68 (still has all his hair) and same with my mom.
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