Setting goals

superhockeymom
superhockeymom Posts: 2,000 Member
edited October 2015 in Health and Weight Loss
So I have decided to set new goals each week for example less wine or drink more water. I was going to implement 5 per week but was told to do less As it will be better for making them habits. So should I go with 5 or less.
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  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    I think one a week is more than enough. I might even go with one every two weeks if I were you. I am me and I pick a few things to work on at a time. :)

    I like the idea of adding stuff instead of subtracting. "Adding water" sounds like something one gives oneself while "drinking less soda" sounds like something is being taken away. Adding vegetables is preferable to eating fewer chips, you know?

    It's like your giving yourself healthy things instead of taking away things you like.

    I realize that it's a glass-half-full kind of thing, but whatever. I like it. :)
  • superhockeymom
    superhockeymom Posts: 2,000 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    I think one a week is more than enough. I might even go with one every two weeks if I were you. I am me and I pick a few things to work on at a time. :)

    I like the idea of adding stuff instead of subtracting. "Adding water" sounds like something one gives oneself while "drinking less soda" sounds like something is being taken away. Adding vegetables is preferable to eating fewer chips, you know?

    It's like your giving yourself healthy things instead of taking away things you like.

    I realize that it's a glass-half-full kind of thing, but whatever. I like it. :)

    I like that approach as well. It does sound better. And that is one of my goals to drink more water.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Can your first goal be to net 1400 calories per day minimum please
  • superhockeymom
    superhockeymom Posts: 2,000 Member
    edited October 2015
    It's on there a little lower but yes net!
    I have like 5 but maybe to many all at once

    Drink more water
    Drink less or no wine
    Net 1200
    Walk minimum of 15000 steps
    Sleep more!!

    I think there was another not sure
  • 47Jacqueline
    47Jacqueline Posts: 6,993 Member
    edited October 2015
    Pick 1. Do that. Also, make it specific. Drink more water or less wine is not a goal. Drink 8 glasses of water or restrict my wine intake to three glasses a week - those are goals.

    Habits, contrary to popular belief, do not necessarily take only 30 days to build. Some habits can take six months or more. Something simple, like drinking 8 glasses of water every day, probably take less time to form a habit, but building a habit of exercising regularly takes much more time.

    Also, skipping a day or not reaching your daily goal for a day is not failing. We build habits by building consistency, not through perfection.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    If your target is to net 1200 (should be much more) and you are walking 15000 steps you are going to have to eat around 1800- 2000 calories

    Just focus on that

    For one week

    Just that

  • superhockeymom
    superhockeymom Posts: 2,000 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    If your target is to net 1200 (should be much more) and you are walking 15000 steps you are going to have to eat around 1800- 2000 calories

    Just focus on that

    For one week

    Just that

    Wow that's a ton. Will it really be that much. Oh well guess we will see 15000 is going to be a reach
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    Getting calories under control (or raised, if you've been undereating) is always the first step, IMO. Work on that for a few weeks. You could add water, but I'd limit it to those two things.

    If you're undereating, take that as seriously as other people take their overeating. Both the raising and lowering are hard to do. 1200 is a nice goal, but you should think about going higher, if you can.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    Getting calories under control (or raised, if you've been undereating) is always the first step, IMO. Work on that for a few weeks. You could add water, but I'd limit it to those two things.

    If you're undereating, take that as seriously as other people take their overeating. Both the raising and lowering are hard to do. 1200 is a nice goal, but you should think about going higher, if you can.

    That's twice we have agreed on something today...I am now getting concerned about an incoming apocalypse ;)
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Kalikel wrote: »
    Getting calories under control (or raised, if you've been undereating) is always the first step, IMO. Work on that for a few weeks. You could add water, but I'd limit it to those two things.

    If you're undereating, take that as seriously as other people take their overeating. Both the raising and lowering are hard to do. 1200 is a nice goal, but you should think about going higher, if you can.

    That's twice we have agreed on something today...I am now getting concerned about an incoming apocalypse ;)
    Well, I have been sick and can't sleep with the new meds. Maybe it's affecting my thinking. That just be it! ;) It's okay. You can disagree later. :)

    OP, it's not too difficult to get calories in, physically. Juice is healthy and loaded with them. Breakfast cereals have a ton of calories and won't fill you up...add some sugar to them, even more. Full-fat dairy is an easy way to pack in some extras. Adding butter to bread, your veggies, your coffee (if you drink that) is another easy way. Sugar pop! Peanut butter! Donuts have a ton and the fluffy ones...it's like you ate air. There's just nothing to those. Dried fruit! Those dried cherries have lots and lots and are healthy enough...but most dried fruits are high in calories.

    Pizza will fill you up, but has lots of calories and after eating the other stuff, you can have a slice or two without getting too full. Etc, etc.

    If you have a mental issue with calories, that's another ball of wax, but just getting them in without feeling too stuffed is easy.

    People always say potato, but that only works if you add butter or sour cream.
  • LynneHolloman
    LynneHolloman Posts: 14 Member
    My goal is to keep working out. nbid6mguemg1.jpg
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    My goal is to keep working out.

    21 days to habit forming is a really nice media title, unfortunately it's not actually true

    Sure it is possible to form new habits...and 21 days is a lovely buy in that might get you over the hump when motivation wavers ...it's a good start but on day 22 be prepared to recommit
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    How bout just eating more food everyday. Start there.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    When I quit smoking, I knew by day 21 that I had it in the bag.

    Changing and improving my diet took years, though, and I'm still not completely done.

    I think these habit timelines are going to vary by person and by habit.
  • scolaris
    scolaris Posts: 2,145 Member
    edited October 2015
    Getting my steps to 15k daily was one of my beginning goals too! It is a lot easier if you make a 100k weekly goal and leave a 10k minimum in place for individual days. As a working mom, I find it easy to get to 20+ on good days & just about impossible to get over 10k on the hectic ones. I keep that 100k weekly number in mind and haven't missed a week yet.
  • scolaris
    scolaris Posts: 2,145 Member
    And yes: step more = eat more. Because, math!

  • superhockeymom
    superhockeymom Posts: 2,000 Member
    edited October 2015
    Baby steps. I think I am going for my whole list. Some on there are important to me for my own reasons.
    The wine has to go. When I go into calories it tops the list not good when the majority of my calories for the last 7 days came from wine.
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
    I'm proud of you for making attainable goals. I agree with the 1200 net/15000 steps being at the top.

    At the end of the day, you'll have to eat probably at least 1600 calories, so keep that in mind, ok? No breakfast and 300 calories at lunch will leave you 1300 for dinner, which might be overwhelming. (Or, some people enjoy that 1300 dinner.)

    I myself shoot for 600-800 calories BEFORE dinner. So if I haven't been active, it means a 500-ish calorie dinner. But if I HAVE been active, dinner would be 1000 or so calories.

    Good luck, P
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited October 2015
    WBB55 wrote: »
    I'm proud of you for making attainable goals. I agree with the 1200 net/15000 steps being at the top.

    At the end of the day, you'll have to eat probably at least 1600 calories, so keep that in mind, ok? No breakfast and 300 calories at lunch will leave you 1300 for dinner, which might be overwhelming. (Or, some people enjoy that 1300 dinner.)

    I myself shoot for 600-800 calories BEFORE dinner. So if I haven't been active, it means a 500-ish calorie dinner. But if I HAVE been active, dinner would be 1000 or so calories.

    Good luck, P

    Along these lines, for a 15,000 steps goal, if you don't do any before breakfast and have only 3,000 at lunch, that leaves you 12,000 steps for the evening, which might be overwhelming. So, Patti, spread out your calories, err, steps!
  • superhockeymom
    superhockeymom Posts: 2,000 Member
    Plan is to walk before work I'm up bring the boys to the rink 2 days anyway do what's another couple days. Then walking at lunch with my co worker it breaks up the day. And then my cute little dog always needs a walk but I agree it will be hard. For food I'm going to try to eat s little something for breakfast. Still figuring that one out. Lunch may be may favorite salad because it's what I like but i may switch it up maybe a wrap of some kind. Dinner that's going to be hard. Without the 300cslories from wine I am going to have to eat a lot. Tomorrow I will have to see how that works out it is a little overwhelming when I really think about it. Crap freaking myself out.
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
    P, start today. You're always starting tomorrow.

    Peanut butter and a spoon. Peanut butter is very healthy. Blend it with some milk if you don't feel like doing the mouth-work needed.

    Don't stress out. You can do it. Start TODAY.
  • superhockeymom
    superhockeymom Posts: 2,000 Member
    WBB55 wrote: »
    P, start today. You're always starting tomorrow.

    Peanut butter and a spoon. Peanut butter is very healthy. Blend it with some milk if you don't feel like doing the mouth-work needed.

    Don't stress out. You can do it. Start TODAY.

    Today is already a mess but I am eating better no way to get steps in but I do have a game tonight so that's fine. Think we r going out for lunch with my sons team so probably having a burger and a beer? I am going to be so far over.
    Ok here's the list.

    Ok so here goes
    1- cut out wine
    2-15000 steps per day
    3- Net 1200(this is a hard one for me)
    4-get back to lifting
    5- get enough sleep (< 4 hours)
    6- increase water consumption
    Did I miss anything?
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited October 2015
    Patti - how many steps do you get currently? I just started using a pedometer last week and got 5536 steps the first day and 5731 steps the next day. So for me, a goal of 15000 steps per day next week wouldn't be realistic as I have to build up to this.

    I'm with the VA TeleMove program and have two food goals and two physical activity goals, which I am to adjust as my fitness improves. Here they are currently:

    A. Food:
    1. Staying under my calorie goal (your "Net 1200" is obviously a better goal for you.)
    2. Drinking 88 ounces of fluid

    B. Physical Activity:
    1. Doing my knee strengthening exercises every day
    2. Walk for 40 minutes every dry day ("dry" because I walk in the woods.)
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    WBB55 wrote: »
    P, start today. You're always starting tomorrow.

    Peanut butter and a spoon. Peanut butter is very healthy. Blend it with some milk if you don't feel like doing the mouth-work needed.

    Don't stress out. You can do it. Start TODAY.

    Today is already a mess but I am eating better no way to get steps in but I do have a game tonight so that's fine. Think we r going out for lunch with my sons team so probably having a burger and a beer? I am going to be so far over.
    Ok here's the list.

    Ok so here goes
    1- cut out wine
    2-15000 steps per day
    3- Net 1200(this is a hard one for me)
    4-get back to lifting
    5- get enough sleep (< 4 hours)
    6- increase water consumption
    Did I miss anything?

    I'm not trying to quash your enthusiasm here, but you're taking on a lot! Consider the idea that you *might* be biting off more than you can chew.

    I suspect your mind is made up, but give it some thought, huh?

    Good luck with your plan! :)
  • superhockeymom
    superhockeymom Posts: 2,000 Member
    I walk anywhere from 7000 to 13000 now some days a little more some a little less. I find walking good for my mental health at times just me thinking away.
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
    WBB55 wrote: »
    P, start today. You're always starting tomorrow.

    Peanut butter and a spoon. Peanut butter is very healthy. Blend it with some milk if you don't feel like doing the mouth-work needed.

    Don't stress out. You can do it. Start TODAY.

    Today is already a mess but I am eating better no way to get steps in but I do have a game tonight so that's fine. Think we r going out for lunch with my sons team so probably having a burger and a beer? I am going to be so far over.
    Ok here's the list.

    Ok so here goes
    1- cut out wine
    2-15000 steps per day
    3- Net 1200(this is a hard one for me)
    4-get back to lifting
    5- get enough sleep (< 4 hours)
    6- increase water consumption
    Did I miss anything?

    While remaining supportive, I'd like to point out that you're trying for too much all at once. I know that's how you tend to see the world (i.e., either you're restricting or binging) but -- real talk -- you're not healthy right now in the head regarding sensible food things. I think having smaller goals -- and then achieve those goals and feel that sense of accomplishment, REAL accomplishment, will teach you the self-validation skills you don't have (which is why you seek external validation).

    You are setting yourself up for failure and another cycle of shame-> restrict-> binge if you try to do too much all at once. You already take care of your family, please consider taking your goals more slowly. Accomplishing little things will teach you so much about yourself.
  • superhockeymom
    superhockeymom Posts: 2,000 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    WBB55 wrote: »
    P, start today. You're always starting tomorrow.

    Peanut butter and a spoon. Peanut butter is very healthy. Blend it with some milk if you don't feel like doing the mouth-work needed.

    Don't stress out. You can do it. Start TODAY.

    Today is already a mess but I am eating better no way to get steps in but I do have a game tonight so that's fine. Think we r going out for lunch with my sons team so probably having a burger and a beer? I am going to be so far over.
    Ok here's the list.

    Ok so here goes
    1- cut out wine
    2-15000 steps per day
    3- Net 1200(this is a hard one for me)
    4-get back to lifting
    5- get enough sleep (< 4 hours)
    6- increase water consumption
    Did I miss anything?

    I'm not trying to quash your enthusiasm here, but you're taking on a lot! Consider the idea that you *might* be biting off more than you can chew.

    I suspect your mind is made up, but give it some thought, huh?

    Good luck with your plan! :)

    I know I may be setting myself up for disaster I hope not but# 1 and # 3 are the most important.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    WBB55 wrote: »
    P, start today. You're always starting tomorrow.

    Peanut butter and a spoon. Peanut butter is very healthy. Blend it with some milk if you don't feel like doing the mouth-work needed.

    Don't stress out. You can do it. Start TODAY.

    Today is already a mess but I am eating better no way to get steps in but I do have a game tonight so that's fine. Think we r going out for lunch with my sons team so probably having a burger and a beer? I am going to be so far over.
    Ok here's the list.

    Ok so here goes
    1- cut out wine
    2-15000 steps per day
    3- Net 1200(this is a hard one for me)
    4-get back to lifting
    5- get enough sleep (< 4 hours)
    6- increase water consumption
    Did I miss anything?

    I'm not trying to quash your enthusiasm here, but you're taking on a lot! Consider the idea that you *might* be biting off more than you can chew.

    I suspect your mind is made up, but give it some thought, huh?

    Good luck with your plan! :)

    I know I may be setting myself up for disaster I hope not but# 1 and # 3 are the most important.

    Again, I wish you luck! :)
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    WBB55 wrote: »
    WBB55 wrote: »
    P, start today. You're always starting tomorrow.

    Peanut butter and a spoon. Peanut butter is very healthy. Blend it with some milk if you don't feel like doing the mouth-work needed.

    Don't stress out. You can do it. Start TODAY.

    Today is already a mess but I am eating better no way to get steps in but I do have a game tonight so that's fine. Think we r going out for lunch with my sons team so probably having a burger and a beer? I am going to be so far over.
    Ok here's the list.

    Ok so here goes
    1- cut out wine
    2-15000 steps per day
    3- Net 1200(this is a hard one for me)
    4-get back to lifting
    5- get enough sleep (< 4 hours)
    6- increase water consumption
    Did I miss anything?

    While remaining supportive, I'd like to point out that you're trying for too much all at once. I know that's how you tend to see the world (i.e., either you're restricting or binging) but -- real talk -- you're not healthy right now in the head regarding sensible food things. I think having smaller goals -- and then achieve those goals and feel that sense of accomplishment, REAL accomplishment, will teach you the self-validation skills you don't have (which is why you seek external validation).

    You are setting yourself up for failure and another cycle of shame-> restrict-> binge if you try to do too much all at once. You already take care of your family, please consider taking your goals more slowly. Accomplishing little things will teach you so much about yourself.

    Patti - am I correct in assuming it was your therapist who told you to set less than five goals at a time? If not, check in with him/her about how many new goals for which you should strive. I agree with WBB55 that your current plan does not seem to be sustainable. But don't go ahead with it any way just to prove us wrong - check with your therapist.
  • superhockeymom
    superhockeymom Posts: 2,000 Member
    Ok so u are correct it is supposed to be only 1