Moderation

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  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    edited October 2015
    Oh, I like this one! There are some folks that think that moderation "can mean anything" but this article nails it down. It is the absence of extremes. Nice. Thanks for sharing it!
  • mrsnazario1219
    mrsnazario1219 Posts: 173 Member
    maidentl wrote: »
    Oh, I like this one! There are some folks that think that moderation "can mean anything" but this article nails it down. It is the absence of extremes. Nice. Thanks for sharing it!

    No problem! I thought it hit the nail on the head :)
  • yesimpson
    yesimpson Posts: 1,372 Member
    Like it.
  • MammaC66
    MammaC66 Posts: 120 Member
    This is exactly the direction I am heading. I have lost a lot of weight and gained some of it back. I am working on getting back to my goal weight. This is pretty much the route I am going to take. It might take me longer to get there, but I will be building healthy sustainable habits along the way. This makes a lot of sense to me.
  • mamadon
    mamadon Posts: 1,422 Member
    Very good article.
  • Buckeye_Dave
    Buckeye_Dave Posts: 59 Member
    Good article, thank you for sharing it!
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.
  • prettygirlstorm1
    prettygirlstorm1 Posts: 721 Member
    Great article!!!
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    BOOM!
  • mrsnazario1219
    mrsnazario1219 Posts: 173 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    Exactly why I posted!
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    Yep. There was a discussion here recently where some people were trying to argue that moderation has a million different definitions, just like "clean." I couldn't figure out how to articulate that even though we all might do it differently, it is still the same thing.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    Here's the difference between trying to stick to a "clean" diet versus a "moderate" diet. To be "clean" you have to get it right. Otherwise it is, you know, unclean. Banished to the outskirts of the tribe.

    To moderate, all you have to do is get it kinda, sorta right. As long as you are pointed in the right direction, you are climbing the mountain. If you hike 1KM today or 10, it is all fine because you are still kinda sorta getting there. Moderates don't have to be precise or perfect.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    maidentl wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    Yep. There was a discussion here recently where some people were trying to argue that moderation has a million different definitions, just like "clean." I couldn't figure out how to articulate that even though we all might do it differently, it is still the same thing.

    But they aren't wrong. There are many different ways the term "moderation" is used in reference to diet. Not everyone that says they eat in moderation follows the description in this article.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    maidentl wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    Yep. There was a discussion here recently where some people were trying to argue that moderation has a million different definitions, just like "clean." I couldn't figure out how to articulate that even though we all might do it differently, it is still the same thing.

    But they aren't wrong. There are many different ways the term "moderation" is used in reference to diet. Not everyone that says they eat in moderation follows the description in this article.
    the avoidance of excess or extremes,

    Is the definition in this article and is the actual definition.

    Those who follow moderation do this exact thing...we don't do extremes.

    It looks like eating a MOSTLY whole foods diet with plenty of nutrients from fruits, vegetables, lean meats, healthy fats, etc. The specifics will look different for everyone, because everyone has different preferences and tastes. It also leaves room for regular treats and indulgences that feed our soul and give us pleasure.

    and this is the key to the article and moderation...

    specifics are the difference but moderation is moderation regardless of how you do it...clean eating has a million different definitions....moderation 1
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    This is such a great article. I need to bookmark that link!

  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    maidentl wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    Yep. There was a discussion here recently where some people were trying to argue that moderation has a million different definitions, just like "clean." I couldn't figure out how to articulate that even though we all might do it differently, it is still the same thing.

    But they aren't wrong. There are many different ways the term "moderation" is used in reference to diet. Not everyone that says they eat in moderation follows the description in this article.
    the avoidance of excess or extremes,

    Is the definition in this article and is the actual definition.

    Those who follow moderation do this exact thing...we don't do extremes.

    It looks like eating a MOSTLY whole foods diet with plenty of nutrients from fruits, vegetables, lean meats, healthy fats, etc. The specifics will look different for everyone, because everyone has different preferences and tastes. It also leaves room for regular treats and indulgences that feed our soul and give us pleasure.

    and this is the key to the article and moderation...

    specifics are the difference but moderation is moderation regardless of how you do it...clean eating has a million different definitions....moderation 1

    After more than a year on this site, I don't believe this is true. I'd say it's true of the majority who say they eat in moderation, but it's not true of all.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    Great article.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    maidentl wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    Yep. There was a discussion here recently where some people were trying to argue that moderation has a million different definitions, just like "clean." I couldn't figure out how to articulate that even though we all might do it differently, it is still the same thing.

    But they aren't wrong. There are many different ways the term "moderation" is used in reference to diet. Not everyone that says they eat in moderation follows the description in this article.
    the avoidance of excess or extremes,

    Is the definition in this article and is the actual definition.

    Those who follow moderation do this exact thing...we don't do extremes.

    It looks like eating a MOSTLY whole foods diet with plenty of nutrients from fruits, vegetables, lean meats, healthy fats, etc. The specifics will look different for everyone, because everyone has different preferences and tastes. It also leaves room for regular treats and indulgences that feed our soul and give us pleasure.

    and this is the key to the article and moderation...

    specifics are the difference but moderation is moderation regardless of how you do it...clean eating has a million different definitions....moderation 1

    After more than a year on this site, I don't believe this is true. I'd say it's true of the majority who say they eat in moderation, but it's not true of all.

    After 2+ years on this site I know those that follow moderation get it and those that don't but say they do need to read the article...just like I said in my first post...

    Those in the know...know.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    edited October 2015
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    maidentl wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    Yep. There was a discussion here recently where some people were trying to argue that moderation has a million different definitions, just like "clean." I couldn't figure out how to articulate that even though we all might do it differently, it is still the same thing.

    But they aren't wrong. There are many different ways the term "moderation" is used in reference to diet. Not everyone that says they eat in moderation follows the description in this article.
    the avoidance of excess or extremes,

    Is the definition in this article and is the actual definition.

    Those who follow moderation do this exact thing...we don't do extremes.

    It looks like eating a MOSTLY whole foods diet with plenty of nutrients from fruits, vegetables, lean meats, healthy fats, etc. The specifics will look different for everyone, because everyone has different preferences and tastes. It also leaves room for regular treats and indulgences that feed our soul and give us pleasure.

    and this is the key to the article and moderation...

    specifics are the difference but moderation is moderation regardless of how you do it...clean eating has a million different definitions....moderation 1

    After more than a year on this site, I don't believe this is true. I'd say it's true of the majority who say they eat in moderation, but it's not true of all.

    After 2+ years on this site I know those that follow moderation get it and those that don't but say they do need to read the article...just like I said in my first post...

    Those in the know...know.

    So only one definition that everyone follows, except for those that do something else and use the term incorrectly? ::laugh::

    Sounds like every other diet term I've heard on this site - clean eating, IIFYM, plant based, paleo, etc.

    EDIT: I do agree it's a good article though.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    maidentl wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    Yep. There was a discussion here recently where some people were trying to argue that moderation has a million different definitions, just like "clean." I couldn't figure out how to articulate that even though we all might do it differently, it is still the same thing.

    But they aren't wrong. There are many different ways the term "moderation" is used in reference to diet. Not everyone that says they eat in moderation follows the description in this article.
    the avoidance of excess or extremes,

    Is the definition in this article and is the actual definition.

    Those who follow moderation do this exact thing...we don't do extremes.

    It looks like eating a MOSTLY whole foods diet with plenty of nutrients from fruits, vegetables, lean meats, healthy fats, etc. The specifics will look different for everyone, because everyone has different preferences and tastes. It also leaves room for regular treats and indulgences that feed our soul and give us pleasure.

    and this is the key to the article and moderation...

    specifics are the difference but moderation is moderation regardless of how you do it...clean eating has a million different definitions....moderation 1

    After more than a year on this site, I don't believe this is true. I'd say it's true of the majority who say they eat in moderation, but it's not true of all.

    After 2+ years on this site I know those that follow moderation get it and those that don't but say they do need to read the article...just like I said in my first post...

    Those in the know...know.

    So only one definition that everyone follows, except for those that do something else and use the term incorrectly? ::laugh::

    Sounds like every other diet term I've heard on this site - clean eating, IIFYM, plant based, paleo, etc.

    no..moderation is not doing things in extreme. Period.

    Those that follow moderation have specifics they follow but don't do extremes. Not a hard concept.

    You may not agree it's "moderation" but you can't argue with the definition.

    Defining clean eating is nearly impossible as there are too many definitions...moderation 1 definition.

    Those that say they are moderate and eliminate foods is not the definition of moderation...it's an education thing not a definition being right or wrong thing.

    but not gonna argue semantics.

    Good article OP
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    maidentl wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    Yep. There was a discussion here recently where some people were trying to argue that moderation has a million different definitions, just like "clean." I couldn't figure out how to articulate that even though we all might do it differently, it is still the same thing.

    But they aren't wrong. There are many different ways the term "moderation" is used in reference to diet. Not everyone that says they eat in moderation follows the description in this article.
    the avoidance of excess or extremes,

    Is the definition in this article and is the actual definition.

    Those who follow moderation do this exact thing...we don't do extremes.

    It looks like eating a MOSTLY whole foods diet with plenty of nutrients from fruits, vegetables, lean meats, healthy fats, etc. The specifics will look different for everyone, because everyone has different preferences and tastes. It also leaves room for regular treats and indulgences that feed our soul and give us pleasure.

    and this is the key to the article and moderation...

    specifics are the difference but moderation is moderation regardless of how you do it...clean eating has a million different definitions....moderation 1

    After more than a year on this site, I don't believe this is true. I'd say it's true of the majority who say they eat in moderation, but it's not true of all.

    Perhaps the others are wrong about how they eat.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    maidentl wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    Yep. There was a discussion here recently where some people were trying to argue that moderation has a million different definitions, just like "clean." I couldn't figure out how to articulate that even though we all might do it differently, it is still the same thing.

    But they aren't wrong. There are many different ways the term "moderation" is used in reference to diet. Not everyone that says they eat in moderation follows the description in this article.
    the avoidance of excess or extremes,

    Is the definition in this article and is the actual definition.

    Those who follow moderation do this exact thing...we don't do extremes.

    It looks like eating a MOSTLY whole foods diet with plenty of nutrients from fruits, vegetables, lean meats, healthy fats, etc. The specifics will look different for everyone, because everyone has different preferences and tastes. It also leaves room for regular treats and indulgences that feed our soul and give us pleasure.

    and this is the key to the article and moderation...

    specifics are the difference but moderation is moderation regardless of how you do it...clean eating has a million different definitions....moderation 1

    After more than a year on this site, I don't believe this is true. I'd say it's true of the majority who say they eat in moderation, but it's not true of all.

    After 2+ years on this site I know those that follow moderation get it and those that don't but say they do need to read the article...just like I said in my first post...

    Those in the know...know.

    So only one definition that everyone follows, except for those that do something else and use the term incorrectly? ::laugh::

    Sounds like every other diet term I've heard on this site - clean eating, IIFYM, plant based, paleo, etc.

    no..moderation is not doing things in extreme. Period.

    Those that follow moderation have specifics they follow but don't do extremes. Not a hard concept.

    You may not agree it's "moderation" but you can't argue with the definition.

    Defining clean eating is nearly impossible as there are too many definitions...moderation 1 definition.

    Those that say they are moderate and eliminate foods is not the definition of moderation...it's an education thing not a definition being right or wrong thing.

    but not gonna argue semantics.

    Good article OP

    It's not about semantics. It's not about the dictionary. It's about diet and the terms we use to describe our diet.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    maidentl wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    Yep. There was a discussion here recently where some people were trying to argue that moderation has a million different definitions, just like "clean." I couldn't figure out how to articulate that even though we all might do it differently, it is still the same thing.

    But they aren't wrong. There are many different ways the term "moderation" is used in reference to diet. Not everyone that says they eat in moderation follows the description in this article.
    the avoidance of excess or extremes,

    Is the definition in this article and is the actual definition.

    Those who follow moderation do this exact thing...we don't do extremes.

    It looks like eating a MOSTLY whole foods diet with plenty of nutrients from fruits, vegetables, lean meats, healthy fats, etc. The specifics will look different for everyone, because everyone has different preferences and tastes. It also leaves room for regular treats and indulgences that feed our soul and give us pleasure.

    and this is the key to the article and moderation...

    specifics are the difference but moderation is moderation regardless of how you do it...clean eating has a million different definitions....moderation 1

    After more than a year on this site, I don't believe this is true. I'd say it's true of the majority who say they eat in moderation, but it's not true of all.

    Perhaps the others are wrong about how they eat.

    That was my point. People use the term 'moderation' to describe various different ways of eating.
  • mrsnazario1219
    mrsnazario1219 Posts: 173 Member
    I thought it was pretty black and white but I guess if you dissect it enough you can find something wrong with it. ::shrugs::
  • Emily3907
    Emily3907 Posts: 1,461 Member
    Yay for moderation! Without it, I would be a very sad person. Good article.
  • Montepulciano
    Montepulciano Posts: 845 Member
    edited October 2015
    I see people eat some wild things and they are losing weight because they pay strict attention to CICO. Sustainability is another factor and to a degree it has to do more with mental side of it. If you always feel denied, how sustainable is that? For some people it is no biggie, for others it is big deal. I keep coming back to there is no one true way, and we all have to find our own path. Some people prefer rigid black and white rules that keep them from going off the rails. Other people need softer guidelines to use as rails to keep them on track. One thing is clear, you have to find out what works for you.

    Great post, thank you! Helped me not feel guilty about the sugar in my coffee.
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    maidentl wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    Yep. There was a discussion here recently where some people were trying to argue that moderation has a million different definitions, just like "clean." I couldn't figure out how to articulate that even though we all might do it differently, it is still the same thing.

    But they aren't wrong. There are many different ways the term "moderation" is used in reference to diet. Not everyone that says they eat in moderation follows the description in this article.
    the avoidance of excess or extremes,

    Is the definition in this article and is the actual definition.

    Those who follow moderation do this exact thing...we don't do extremes.

    It looks like eating a MOSTLY whole foods diet with plenty of nutrients from fruits, vegetables, lean meats, healthy fats, etc. The specifics will look different for everyone, because everyone has different preferences and tastes. It also leaves room for regular treats and indulgences that feed our soul and give us pleasure.

    and this is the key to the article and moderation...

    specifics are the difference but moderation is moderation regardless of how you do it...clean eating has a million different definitions....moderation 1

    After more than a year on this site, I don't believe this is true. I'd say it's true of the majority who say they eat in moderation, but it's not true of all.

    So like the article says, if someone eats a diet of mostly junk food, that's not moderation, it's an extreme.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    Loved the article! Thanks for posting.

    As for the side argument with people parsing words?

    I used to go to school with this girl who used big words incorrectly all the time. Her misuse of the word didn't change what it fundamentally meant and did not suddenly mean that the definition of it was murky.

    Just sayin'.

    If you avoid the extremes, you're practicing moderation.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    maidentl wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    Those who do moderation get this already...those who are into extremes need to read it.

    Yep. There was a discussion here recently where some people were trying to argue that moderation has a million different definitions, just like "clean." I couldn't figure out how to articulate that even though we all might do it differently, it is still the same thing.

    But they aren't wrong. There are many different ways the term "moderation" is used in reference to diet. Not everyone that says they eat in moderation follows the description in this article.
    the avoidance of excess or extremes,

    Is the definition in this article and is the actual definition.

    Those who follow moderation do this exact thing...we don't do extremes.

    It looks like eating a MOSTLY whole foods diet with plenty of nutrients from fruits, vegetables, lean meats, healthy fats, etc. The specifics will look different for everyone, because everyone has different preferences and tastes. It also leaves room for regular treats and indulgences that feed our soul and give us pleasure.

    and this is the key to the article and moderation...

    specifics are the difference but moderation is moderation regardless of how you do it...clean eating has a million different definitions....moderation 1

    After more than a year on this site, I don't believe this is true. I'd say it's true of the majority who say they eat in moderation, but it's not true of all.

    Perhaps the others are wrong about how they eat.

    That was my point. People use the term 'moderation' to describe various different ways of eating.

    Yah that's what moderation is and what the article says...no extremes but the specifics are all different.

    I eat more chicken than beef but I still do moderation as I eat chocolate and take out. Someone may eat more beef than chicken and prefer chips to chocolate in moderation...it's all moderation
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    Loved the article! Thanks for posting.

    As for the side argument with people parsing words?

    I used to go to school with this girl who used big words incorrectly all the time. Her misuse of the word didn't change what it fundamentally meant and did not suddenly mean that the definition of it was murky.

    Just sayin'.

    If you avoid the extremes, you're practicing moderation.

    Exactly, it's like people who say feminism is man-hating because some people who call themselves that term behave that way or people who call themselves vegetarian but still eat meat. The definitions of the words don't change just because some people use them incorrectly.
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