Do you count the calories in fruits and vegtables?
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I just weighed 500g of broccoli
Yowsa's it is a lot. I'd have to be ravenous to get that lot down, and I've got a big appetite. 0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »summerkissed wrote: »@PeachyCarol are you sure you are logging and weighing properly?? I just used my electric scales to weigh 1 pound of cauliflower......there is no way I could eat that in one sitting!!!! 1 pound of cartots is 7 big cartots! If I ate those I wouldn't eat my dinner tonight!! I'd be full for the rest of the day on under 150cals!!!
I use a scale and I regularly eat close to a pound of broccoli or cauliflower as part of my dinner. Maybe some people would be full on a pound of vegetables, but I'm usually not.
OP, my body counts all the calories in fruits and vegetables, so I do too. If I consume more than my body is burning, my body doesn't care if it is from broccoli, bananas, wine, or chocolate chip cookies.
+1 And I regularly eat that much of various veggies as part of a meal, too. Logging all calories, regardless of from which foods is critical if you want to know a reasonably accurate total of your CI. Is it possible to lose weight without knowledge of that total? Yes, but that has solely to do with a deficit still existing. Personally, while losing, I prefer to know I'm in a deficit, rather than just hoping that I am.0 -
@christinev297 Roast it!
It shrinks up like crazy, and is sooooo delicious! 0 -
justrollme wrote: »@christinev297 Roast it! It shrinks up like crazy, and is sooooo delicious!
Yum, I love roasted broccoli, drizzled with olive oil and garlic 0 -
I think a lot of this " I don't have to weigh veggies " comes from the myth that people don't gain weight from eating healthy or "clean ". When in fact, all that's needed to gain weight is a calorie surplus. If I ate at a surplus, while only eating "clean" foods - I would still gain weight.
Calorie surplus - weight gain
Calorie deficit - weight loss
I have known clean eating vegans who have Gained weight while eating healthy " clean " foods
I also know people who have lost weight while eating McDonalds and donuts.
.this is because it comes down to calories.0 -
PeachyCarol wrote: »I can't believe some of what I've read in this thread.
Yes, it's true, you can lose weight without accounting for every single calorie, but for the sake of all that is holy... calories are calories.
Your body will account for the calories even if you don't, just remember that. How successful you will be with the method of not counting certain veggies will depend the quantities you're eating.
I'm just thinking here... I just ate a meal where I literally had a pound of broccoli (check my diary under lunch). That's 150 calories, right there. There are days where my intake of non-starchy veg and berries has been up to 300 calories of food. That would be an awful lot to leave unaccounted.
In fact, I used to eat 1200 calories and have that amount of intake. If you were to eat that many veggies PLUS 1200 calories? Well, you'd be getting quite a different total daily calorie count!
Count your veggies. Your body does.
Alllllll of this. I was on a, "mostly fruits and vegetables," diet for all of 2014 and I was gaining weight. If I wasn't counting fruits and vegetables, I was probably eating 1200 calories a day and gaining weight. That is not possible because I was probably eating, easily, 1500 calories in fruits and vegetables.
Now I'm counting EVERYTHING and losing while enjoying the little, "bad," foods I was not able to enjoy before.0 -
I ate over a pound of veg with dinner last night, once I chopped it up and roasted it, it wasn't that much at all. I also logged it all, because I like to know what I actually eat rather than lying to myself about fruit and veg not counting (a reason I left WW).0
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Wow the 10% of the population that eats enough fruit and veggies is on this thread......just imagine the chances of that!!!!0
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Alatariel75 wrote: »I ate over a pound of veg with dinner last night, once I chopped it up and roasted it, it wasn't that much at all. I also logged it all, because I like to know what I actually eat rather than lying to myself about fruit and veg not counting (a reason I left WW).
I knew a girl who was a long time " clean " eater. She wouldn't touch any processed foods, everything was fresh veggies, fresh fruits, fresh meats and guess what ?!? She was still gaining weight. She couldn't understand it ( she had read some derpy book about eating clean and followed every word of it thinking she'd lose weight because the book said so . she followed the books guidelines for almost 27 months )
Finally when she learned about cico, she realized why she was gaining. It was about the calories. It was a major blow to her ego, as she truly believed that book to be a good source of info but unfortunately had to learn the hard way.0 -
Your body counts those calories, whether you put them in your diary or not.
Also, why are you trying to stay _under_ 1200 calories???
Are you so short (5' or less) that 120 lb would be a healthy weight?
For women of average height, 1200 cal/day is the minimum to eat in order to get all the necessary nutrition.
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As long as they've worked up to it & are used to it,There's nothing wrong with someone eating a pound of broccoli or cauliflower in a sitting
or live & work alone.
Doing that when you haven't regularly been eating cruciferous veggies will cause severe... um... gastrointestinal distress.0 -
summerkissed wrote: »Wow the 10% of the population that eats enough fruit and veggies is on this thread......just imagine the chances of that!!!!
Well because this is a calorie counting site that promotes health and fitness , I would say most of the long time members here are concerned with their nutrition. Some , like myself, even count macros and micros here . so it's not at all surprising that there is a group of people here who eat enough veggies.0 -
summerkissed wrote: »Wow the 10% of the population that eats enough fruit and veggies is on this thread......just imagine the chances of that!!!!
Uh, you're on a weight and fitness forum, in a thread about vegetables. I'd say statistically, the odds are a bit skewed in that direction...0 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »summerkissed wrote: »Wow the 10% of the population that eats enough fruit and veggies is on this thread......just imagine the chances of that!!!!
Uh, you're on a weight and fitness forum, in a thread about vegetables. I'd say statistically, the odds are a bit skewed in that direction...
heheheh well said.
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summerkissed wrote: »Wow the 10% of the population that eats enough fruit and veggies is on this thread......just imagine the chances of that!!!!
Why on earth was this flagged?0 -
christinev297 wrote: »summerkissed wrote: »Wow the 10% of the population that eats enough fruit and veggies is on this thread......just imagine the chances of that!!!!
Why on earth was this flagged?
Because some people are flag-happy individuals who have a minuscule threshold for adult conversation and believe that "abuse" involves anyone saying anything that is even vaguely contrary to their personal opinion.0 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »summerkissed wrote: »Wow the 10% of the population that eats enough fruit and veggies is on this thread......just imagine the chances of that!!!!
Why on earth was this flagged?
Because some people are flag-happy twits who have a minuscule threshold for adult conversation and believe that "abuse" involves anyone saying anything that is even vaguely contrary to their personal opinion.
Unbelievable. I'm afraid you're probably right..0 -
christinev297 wrote: »summerkissed wrote: »Wow the 10% of the population that eats enough fruit and veggies is on this thread......just imagine the chances of that!!!!
Why on earth was this flagged?
Somebody was bored?
Somebody was offended?
Somebody misunderstood or lost the context what was written?
Who knows.
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_Terrapin_ wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »summerkissed wrote: »Wow the 10% of the population that eats enough fruit and veggies is on this thread......just imagine the chances of that!!!!
Why on earth was this flagged?
Somebody was bored?
Somebody was offended?
Somebody misunderstood or lost the context what was written?
Who knows.
It was Wednesday?
Veggies is a dirty word?
Exclamation points are evil?0 -
Hahaha point taken. I don't think I've ever flagged anyone. It reminds me of the tattlers in primary school which nobody liked :huh:0
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summerkissed wrote: »I never said she eats too much veg I said that in one sitting if that is a normal meal size then her portion sizes are out.....or is that the only thing on the plate? I doubt it!! My referral to the other foods are cals in relation to portion size...which brings us back to logging fruit and veg! The weight, and cal contents have HUGE differences which is why I teach my girls to eat up the fruit and veg and not to worry about logging (but on saying that I've not come across a girl that eats a pound of broccoli for lunch or dinner and if they did wasn't bloated and full) and if I did I'd be changing that habit for a more proportionally balanced meal and portion size...I'm yet to have one girl not be successful!!! There portion and food decisions are awesome and that is showing!!
My lunch yesterday was 464 grams (1.02 pounds) of brocoli, 175 grams of mixed peppers and grean beans, 17gs of spinach, 427 grams of skinless chicken breast, and 2 high fiber torilla wraps. I was full but not bloated. My fiber for the whole day was 52 grams, 34 of it in that meal. If lack of processed food meant I was supposed to be excessively full on that, I'd end up starving to death without processed food screwing up my appetite, because that lunch was 1142 calories, and I had an estimated burn of 3192 calories.
Most days during the work week my lunches include around 1 pound of vegetables.0 -
summerkissed wrote: »Wow the 10% of the population that eats enough fruit and veggies is on this thread......just imagine the chances of that!!!!
Yeah it's funny, when I take a poll of medical staff, I get a higher than expected number of people who have a college education! When I poll people at the humane society, I get a higher than expect number rate of pet ownership!
It's almost like there is a bias in the population selected.0 -
1) I count everything.
2) I eat a lot of fruit and veg.
3) I've lost 55 lbs that way ... so something seems to be working.
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I count, and log, everything. Fruits and vegetables have calories. Some more than others.0
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summerkissed wrote: »Wow the 10% of the population that eats enough fruit and veggies is on this thread......just imagine the chances of that!!!!
Yeah it's funny, when I take a poll of medical staff, I get a higher than expected number of people who have a college education! When I poll people at the humane society, I get a higher than expect number rate of pet ownership!
It's almost like there is a bias in the population selected.
:noway: [/sarcasm]0 -
I count, and log, everything. Fruits and vegetables have calories. Some more than others.
Yes ... take mangos for example. They are my favourite fruit, but I'm having to do some shuffling of the other things I eat in order to fit them in because .... they are 200 calories.
If I were on a 1200 cal diet, that's 1/6th of my day's total right there. Fortunately I'm eating a bit more than that, but even so, 200 cal for a fruit is still quite a bit.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »summerkissed wrote: »Wow the 10% of the population that eats enough fruit and veggies is on this thread......just imagine the chances of that!!!!
Yeah it's funny, when I take a poll of medical staff, I get a higher than expected number of people who have a college education! When I poll people at the humane society, I get a higher than expect number rate of pet ownership!
It's almost like there is a bias in the population selected.
:noway: [/sarcasm]
There was absolutely no sarcasm in those examples. Not one single gram, and definitely not one whole pound of it.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »summerkissed wrote: »Wow the 10% of the population that eats enough fruit and veggies is on this thread......just imagine the chances of that!!!!
Yeah it's funny, when I take a poll of medical staff, I get a higher than expected number of people who have a college education! When I poll people at the humane society, I get a higher than expect number rate of pet ownership!
It's almost like there is a bias in the population selected.
:noway: [/sarcasm]
There was absolutely no sarcasm in those examples. Not one single gram, and definitely not one whole pound of it.
I hope you logged that pound.0 -
I don't count green veggies. The amount of calories in them is fairly minimal for a couple of "standard" size servings (not a 1lb). I count fruits and things like carrots because it's easy to eat a few hundred calories with a a couple of servings. You can just try to see what works for you. If you have enough of a deficit, it probably won't make much of a difference and be less stressful. But if a 100 calories here and there over your target would stop you from losing weight, then it might make a difference.0
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200 cals from tomatoes for example are the same 200 cals from chocolate or from meat in terms of cals
I can eat a couple of apples and easily take 200 cals - so everything needs to be counted0 -
summerkissed wrote: »@PeachyCarol are you sure you are logging and weighing properly?? I just used my electric scales to weigh 1 pound of cauliflower......there is no way I could eat that in one sitting!!!! 1 pound of cartots is 7 big cartots! If I ate those I wouldn't eat my dinner tonight!! I'd be full for the rest of the day on under 150cals!!!
Check my diary. 454 grams of broccoli.
That you don't think it's "normal" doesn't bother me. You're not the food police. I tossed it with bean pasta and parmesan cheese with some butter and nutmeg. It was tasty, nutritious and filling.
I regularly eat veggies in quantity. I LIKE them. They're low cal and filling.
You've made my point for me, though.
You can get away with not logging veggies if you're not eating them in quantity. If you're eating them in quantity?
Well, the calories add up.
And you know what? You should be eating them in quantity. They're nutrient-packed. Maybe get more variety than me, but I'm moving this week and rushed for time.0
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