I do what with butter...?
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I recognise you
You've dieted before, you've lost weight and put it all on again
You've bought into new methods of losing weight, in fact you hold so many in your head that it gets a little bit confusing ...but you know keto is the thing, you know IF is the thing, you know cutting back on carbs will do it
Only they all take so much focus, so much effort and you can't stick forever, so slowly inevitably you begin to think it's not worth it
I recognise you ...I was you ...I would almost bet a lot of us were you
You know what helped me? Throwing it all out...every single thing I thought I knew about losing weight: what foods were good, what I had to do
I just threw it away and concentrated on calories .no bad food, just ways to sort out my food so I could eat when I was hungry
If I was hungry and had no calories left I would work out how to do it better next day...how to eat more but lower calorie foods and slowly it worked...I started moving more because then I could eat more then
You could try it...if you're ready to...simplify it all
Weigh and log your food, any food
Eat to a calorie defecit across the week
It works
(55lbs down, in maintenance for most of this year)0 -
Where am I getting all this nonsense?
Ok, page turner here, but from an ex of mine.
He does intermittent fasting and was doing low carbs. He isn't doing as low of carbs anymore because he's bulking now. He's very healthy, very fit and looks amazing.
I adopted this mindset, and have more than once questioned it. Ok? Truth's out. : )0 -
I recognise you
You've dieted before, you've lost weight and put it all on again
You've bought into new methods of losing weight, in fact you hold so many in your head that it gets a little bit confusing ...but you know keto is the thing, you know IF is the thing, you know cutting back on carbs will do it
Only they all take so much focus, so much effort and you can't stick forever, so slowly inevitably you begin to think it's not worth it
I recognise you ...I was you ...I would almost bet a lot of us were you
You know what helped me? Throwing it all out...every single thing I thought I knew about losing weight: what foods were good, what I had to do
I just threw it away and concentrated on calories .no bad food, just ways to sort out my food so I could eat when I was hungry
If I was hungry and had no calories left I would work out how to do it better next day...how to eat more but lower calorie foods and slowly it worked...I started moving more because then I could eat more then
You could try it...if you're ready to...simplify it all
Weigh and log your food, any food
Eat to a calorie defecit across the week
It works
(55lbs down, in maintenance for most of this year)
Well said, @rabbitjb, as usual.0 -
Mallybear2020 wrote: »Where am I getting all this nonsense?
Ok, page turner here, but from an ex of mine.
He does intermittent fasting and was doing low carbs. He isn't doing as low of carbs anymore because he's bulking now. He's very healthy, very fit and looks amazing.
I adopted this mindset, and have more than once questioned it. Ok? Truth's out. : )
It doesn't sound like what worked for him works for you. And that's OK. Everyone is different. Find what works for you. (And listen to @rabbitjb. She knows what she's talking about.)0 -
When I had a hard time getting enough calories on the paleo diet, I sometimes ate Kerry Gold salted butter by itself. I have also heard of people taking shots of olive oil to get enough calories. I didn't read all the posts. Anyone suggested peanut butter?0
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@rabbitjb
I want to hug you and give you a crown for saying that to me.
That's all I wanted to hear...just a suggestion.
I can't lose weight by eating past 20 carbs. This is just a body fact about myself. If I slowly lose, then so be it.
But I have tried losing weight by eating what I wanted IN moderation and it never worked.0 -
Mallybear2020 wrote: »@rabbitjb
I want to hug you and give you a crown for saying that to me.
That's all I wanted to hear...just a suggestion.
I can't lose weight by eating past 20 carbs. This is just a body fact about myself. If I slowly lose, then so be it.
But I have tried losing weight by eating what I wanted IN moderation and it never worked.
How long did you give it? You've said upthread that you "plateaued" after four days. I don't want to second-guess you, but it sounds like you may be giving up really quickly when you don't see instant results.0 -
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Mallybear2020 wrote: »@rabbitjb
I want to hug you and give you a crown for saying that to me.
That's all I wanted to hear...just a suggestion.
I can't lose weight by eating past 20 carbs. This is just a body fact about myself. If I slowly lose, then so be it.
But I have tried losing weight by eating what I wanted IN moderation and it never worked.
Can I have a tiara?
Have you tried with weighing and logging everything and using MFP?0 -
I can't figure out how I've peeked in on Food several times this afternoon and am just now seeing this thread.0
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Mallybear2020 wrote: »Where am I getting all this nonsense?
Ok, page turner here, but from an ex of mine.
He does intermittent fasting and was doing low carbs. He isn't doing as low of carbs anymore because he's bulking now. He's very healthy, very fit and looks amazing.
I adopted this mindset, and have more than once questioned it. Ok? Truth's out. : )
"Mindset"? Your very fit and healthy ex eats straight sticks of butter, too? I call shenanigans.
It sounds like you have a very (VERY) loose understanding of what keto and Intermittent Fasting is and what it's supposed to do, thought it'd be a good idea to try it, but actually have no idea how to go about it.
If you are questioning it, why do you keep doing it? Trust your instincts, they are telling you something for a reason. If something sounds ridiculous, it probably is. And in this case, can confirm it definitely is.0 -
Would / could you give it 8 weeks of your life?
Have you been diagnosed with any thyroid / hormonal condition that would indicate this way of eating0 -
If you're just giving it a few days before declaring over 20g of carbs makes it impossible for you to lose weight, then here is what is most likely happening.
You're eating low carbs normally, so you aren't holding as much glycogen and water weight. Then you eat at higher carb, and your water weight increases, but that's not fat, and it won't keep going up. At this point though, you panic and think you're getting fatter, and drop your carbs, then of course what follows is that water weight starts to shed, and you think you're losing fat, but you aren't.
*IF* this is the case, you're just reinforcing the misguided belief by not giving the alternatives a fair shot.0 -
@janejellyroll
The longest I gave it was a month, then I hit about 135 and I couldn't lose anymore. Then I had a cheat day and had to start things back up again. This has happened off and on for months now, and it seems like it's hard for me to lose any past 128lbs, but so far I have gotten past that and I'm at 125lbs.
@rabbitjb
I weigh and log everything with MFP. I thought that was basically the point of being on the site lol.0 -
If you're just giving it a few days before declaring over 20g of carbs makes it impossible for you to lose weight, then here is what is most likely happening.
You're eating low carbs normally, so you aren't holding as much glycogen and water weight. Then you eat at higher carb, and your water weight increases, but that's not fat, and it won't keep going up. At this point though, you panic and think you're getting fatter, and drop your carbs, then of course what follows is that water weight starts to shed, and you think you're losing fat, but you aren't.
*IF* this is the case, you're just reinforcing the misguided belief by not giving the alternatives a fair shot.
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You don't have to eat butter by the tablespoon to get fat intake up, just eat foods with higher fat content eg salmon with skin, avocado, add a good oil to a dressing for what the veggies/salad you do eat, nut butters...plenty of other foods if you take the time to research.0
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All I know about keto, fasting, dieting comes from my ex. He taught me everything. I listened to him and he's the reason why 2 years ago I was at 150lbs and got down to 112.
But because my family, YES, my own family made fun of me for being 'too thin', I ate myself BACK to around 145lbs and have only in the last 5-8months gotten back to doing what I WANTED. Despite them still being rude to me about my eating/weight. They never cared when I was fat but I lose a few pounds, and It's a never ending crowd of insults.0 -
Mallybear2020 wrote: »@janejellyroll
The longest I gave it was a month, then I hit about 135 and I couldn't lose anymore. Then I had a cheat day and had to start things back up again. This has happened off and on for months now, and it seems like it's hard for me to lose any past 128lbs, but so far I have gotten past that and I'm at 125lbs.
@rabbitjb
I weigh and log everything with MFP. I thought that was basically the point of being on the site lol.
A month is too soon to give up. When I was losing weight, I would sometimes go a month without losing and then I would start again. But (because I saw posts from successful people here talking about the same experience), I just stayed on plan. And I always started up again. That's why we say it isn't a plateau until six weeks have passed -- because it's really common for weight loss to start and stop.
You can totally do this. Lots of us have done it. You just need consistency and patience. I've seen some of your previous posts and it looks like you have a tendency to flip between plans and go off plan. I get it, I truly do. But each time you change a plan or go off plan, you muddy the waters and lose some of the ability to see what works and what doesn't.0 -
Mallybear2020 wrote: »All I know about keto, fasting, dieting comes from my ex. He taught me everything. I listened to him and he's the reason why 2 years ago I was at 150lbs and got down to 112.
But because my family, YES, my own family made fun of me for being 'too thin', I ate myself BACK to around 145lbs and have only in the last 5-8months gotten back to doing what I WANTED. Despite them still being rude to me about my eating/weight. They never cared when I was fat but I lose a few pounds, and It's a never ending crowd of insults.
I will echo the suggestion to forget everything you think you learned about weight loss, also, open your diary up so we can see it, we've pretty much exhausted everything else we can say that might help without seeing it.0 -
@janejellyroll
Ok, I'll try to be more patient and get a handle on things.0 -
Mallybear2020 wrote: »Where am I getting all this nonsense?
Ok, page turner here, but from an ex of mine.
He does intermittent fasting and was doing low carbs. He isn't doing as low of carbs anymore because he's bulking now. He's very healthy, very fit and looks amazing.
I adopted this mindset, and have more than once questioned it. Ok? Truth's out. : )
When your ex did low carb, did he have the urge to vomit at night?When low carb dieting and intermittent fasting, are you supposed to get sick?
Like more than once each time I start doing theses things I'll get sick at night and almost feel like I need to vomit while I'm trying to freaking sleep.0 -
That's the tough bit
So are you going to stick with extremely low carb because if so you might be best joining the keto group
I know for me I could not stick with low carb once my willpower weakened ...and once that happened I'd snap back into overweight
But I lost with CICO and 50-60% carbs and maintain like that too...with minimal effort
If you want to try it, if you choose trying it properly then your body will restock it's glycogen and water weight as soon as you reintroduce carbs ...it isn't fat so it's nothing to worry about
If you don't that's your choice ...but you don't sound happy right now
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@kshama2001
No, he never gets sick. Nor did he ever eat butter, but told me to get in enough fat anyway I could without going over my carb limit.0 -
OP your ex is obviously an ex for some reason, so why would you be holding on so tightly to his recommendation for how you "need" to lose weight? You've gotten some great advice here, but there is a very important takeaway that I'm not sure you've picked up quite yet.
Losing weight is about creating a calorie deficit - period. It is not about what you eat or when you eat. Some people find Low Carb or Keto to be good ways to create a calorie deficit. If that works for you, and you can stick with it, great. But you keep posting about having a cheat day, getting discouraged, having to start over, etc - so it doesn't sound like this is definitely the best solution for you. Same thing with IF. There isn't anything magical about IF that causes you to lose weight - it is just a way to create and hopefully maintain a calorie deficit.
I don't think anyone shared these links with you yet, but you really should spend some time reading the Most Helpful Posts at the top of each forum section.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
Here is my standard advice on MFP:
1. Enter your stats as accurately as possible including your activity level
2. Enter a reasonable goal (total weight to lose and rate of loss)
3. Eat a variety of nutrient dense foods, logging everything accurately and consistently
4. Save room for treats if you like, logging those too.
5. Exercise if you like, making sure to eat back at least a portion of your calories.
6. Be patient.0 -
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@WinoGelato
My ex is my ex because I finally decided he didn't deserve me. That b@st@rd cheated on me and lied to me about EVERYTHING.
I'm trying to pick up the broken pieces of my life because I devoted 5 years to him, and he was my support system because my family wasn't there for me, judged me and made it hard to go to them for anything emotionally.
Now that my support system is totally gone...its left me alone and truly finding out what it's like to be a strong independent woman.
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Mallybear2020 wrote: »Listen, I've tried this diet both ways. The food I put into my body absolutely DOES not work if let's say I eat pizza and candy within 1200 calories.
Carbs alone won't make us fat, it's the carbs and fat mixed together that makes weight armageddon.
This is incorrect. This is absolute lunacy.
Its a calorie surplus that would cause a person to gain weight.0 -
Mallybear2020 wrote: »@WinoGelato
My ex is my ex because I finally decided he didn't deserve me. That b@st@rd cheated on me and lied to me about EVERYTHING.
I'm trying to pick up the broken pieces of my life because I devoted 5 years to him, and he was my support system because my family wasn't there for me, judged me and made it hard to go to them for anything emotionally.
Now that my support system is totally gone...its left me alone and truly finding out what it's like to be a strong independent woman.
I think you are missing my point - although good for you for getting out of a bad relationship...
Why would you think that your ex is all knowing about how you need to lose weight? Why are you so insistent on relying on LC and IF simply because he told you that's what you needed to do?0 -
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Mallybear2020 wrote: »@rabbitjb
I'm pretty neutral. I'd just like to find a better way of doing what I'm doing.
I just reduced carbs to a point that keeps me full and allows me to easily stay in a calorie deficit. For me, that's 40% carbs, 30% fat, and 30% protein. It's painless.
Bread made with flour makes me sleepy, so I use sprouted bread like Alvarado St Bakery or Ezekial/Food for Life. Yes, it's more expensive, but I only have two pieces a day so a loaf lasts a while.0
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